Céline under attack for using playback

[GoldenLeaf]

Celine can still sing MHWGO live.. remember the "LIVE" performance at Dancing With The Stars?

She can also sing perfectly I Drove All Night 100% ''LIVE'' like she did at Oprah in October 2007 :

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjQR2RcUk04

 

This sounds way better than the pre-recorded version from Vegas IMO!

[Love,]

I dont understand this whole "if she sang live all the time it would ruin her voice" argument. SHE. IS. A. SINGER!

You know Shaun, it's more like AN ENDLESS EXCUSE!

Celine can still sing MHWGO live.. remember the "LIVE" performance at Dancing With The Stars?

Yeah... that was nice...

And it's really inspiring and that's why Sony should re-release "A New Day...Live in Las Vegas" and have Celine record a new version of "If I Could" like this...

 

But I Couldn't, and I Wouldn't

 

But I Couldn't

Couldn't protect you from the sadness in your eyes

Couldn't give you courage in a world of compromise

No I wouldn't

Even if I could

 

I wouldn't teach you all the things I've never learned

Because I didn't

and I wouldn't help you cross the bridges that I've burned

No I wouldn't

Even if I could

 

I tried to shield my truth from you

but the part of lipping I gave you was really me

You've watched me grow

but I couldn't let you go

So I did

What I had to do

 

Tried to help you make it through the hungry years

but I know that I've cried too many fake tears

 

You know I would

But I couldn't

 

If I live in a time and place where you don't want to be

You don't have to walk along this road with me

My yesterday will haunt me tomorrow

 

If I knew

how I'd try to change the world I brought you to

and there isn't very much that I would do

No I wouldn't

Even if I could

 

Even if I could

I tried to shield my innocence from time

but the part of lipping I gave you was really me

You've watched me grow

but I couldn't let you go

Even if, if I could

Tried to help you make it through the hungry years

but I know that I've cried too many fake tears

(after "My Love")

 

But even if I could

I wouldn't

No, I wouldn't

Even, if, I could

 

I wouldn't

 

 

:giggle:

Edited August 5, 2008 at 10:28 PM by Love,

[dirrtydavid]

Haven't read the whole nine pages because it's basically the same thing back and forward,

 

have they performed sold out shows in vegas for 5 years, no,

 

Would she have been able to perform for 5 years if she had been singing live 4 nights a week? I 100% doubt it....and to say i'm glad i ended up not taking the trip to Vegas to see her is an understatement. The excuse that every artist does it annoys me because yes there are artists out there who lip such as Madonna and Britney Spears to name the biggest, but A) They can't sing in the first place, and They have to rely on heavy dance routines and immense spectacular shows to leave their audience amazed and give them a good night. Celine just needs her voice, which is what people want to hear, which they ultimately don't.

 

funny how wise and genius are the audiences now. i can't see anything wrong in playbacking, as it prevented the artists from overusing their voice during the tour. but in celine's case, even the non-fan can easilly notice it. she's been using the chorus part of TPOL since Al'Olympia. but in this article, i really don't know what will happen next. if celine's team will give an official statement regarding this issue, possibilities are, people will turn their backs on celine and think they've been cheated by her for a very long time, or much worse is that everybody will doubt she can sing her songs live. i watched Christina Aguilera's Back to Basics Tour yesterday in YouTube, and i must confess, she earned my admiration for not using playbacks as often as celine does. (i do think all her performances were performed live)

 

this is sad. but who knows? she's celine dion, who was never been criticized for "voice deterioration" like MC and Whitney.

 

I'm not turning my back on Celine Dion, just ever seeing her live again. I've only felt cheated when i saw her at Croke Park and i wouldn't pay that money again to hear her lip on a rented stage. I wouldn't pay the same money as someone else who got to witness the show in all it's glory, as there was nothing spectacular about the concert, there was no MHWGO with suspended candles or Celine rising on a platform during RDMH. And her vocals i'd heard before. But maybe i had set my hopes to high as i have her Live In Paris/On Ne Change Pas dvds and love them to bits with not a hint of lipping. It wasn't until after the concert i started noticing the lipping more on the A New Day dvd, i mean if anyone in her camp had any sense they would have went "We'll get her to sing live for the dvd recording, then people won't catch on....." I hope they see the light for the forthcoming dvd recording.

 

As for the mentioned Christina Aguilera, the tour mentioned Back To Basics was live, however by the time the dvd recording came round the baby in her belly had made itself known, so the more strenuous performances became lipped i think. But go back to her Stripped tour, that was live start to finish (on the dvd Get Mine Get Yours beginning was dubbed over as you can tell from the lack of facial close ups and fast changing camera work). The admiration i have for Christina is that she isn't afraid to tackle massive notes for fear of failure, one such being during her performance of At Last which is the single greatest moment i've witnessed/heard live in concert

 

Celine is without doubt the most capable vocalist out there. The things she can do with her voice blow my mind. I love her, despite all her success and earnings she's still a fantastic and down to earth person/singer. And whilst i don't want this to blow massively out of proportion for her, i think it is long overdue that she cuts back on the lipping, and if this is what it'll take then so be it.

[stevethefan]

Well when I first saw her in Las Vegas it was before I found out that she was lip synching some of the songs and I really could not tell, and even after seeing her a few more times there, sitting very close I could not tell. But when I found out it kid of made sense with that show since there were a lot of songs with dancers, so I could kind of see the logic since I'm sure it's harder to dance and sing.

 

Although ideally she would sing all songs live as I've said before I have accepted her doing some of this. The thing I worry about is if someday this backup disk skips or something else happens that would be harder to cover up live. That would be an embarassment.

[nuts2you]

I just wondering if her team has gotten a hold of this yet, when do u think she will make a statement. I 'm surprised no body has told the tabloists yet. Have wait and see... btw, When I first read this my heart fell to the floor.I could not belive what I was reading. after looking at vidoes I can now see what everyone is talking about. Any I still LOVE HER, and will still stand behind her NO MADDER WHAT.

[CelionDion]

Celine can still sing MHWGO live.. remember the "LIVE" performance at Dancing With The Stars?

 

I knoooww. Maybe she is afraid of not ruining the last song of the evening and at the same time the most important one for the general audience.

 

I think she's just tired of singing TPOL, MHWGO and BYLM But since those are the songs the non-fans want to hear they won't remove them from the setlist.

[Bellamy]

I think she's just tired of singing TPOL, MHWGO and BYLM But since those are the songs the non-fans want to hear they won't remove them from the setlist.

That's right. Those songs bored her, especially MHWGO. She said so herself before.

[Love,]

Celine can still sing MHWGO live.. remember the "LIVE" performance at Dancing With The Stars?

 

I knoooww. Maybe she is afraid of not ruining the last song of the evening and at the same time the most important one for the general audience.

 

I think she's just tired of singing TPOL, MHWGO and BYLM But since those are the songs the non-fans want to hear they won't remove them from the setlist.

I wouldn't say they're "non-fans."

Someone could be a fan even if they don't keep their eyes on her on a daily basis... or in some cases, every minute of their waking hour!

 

Here on this forum, we have admirers, fans, fanatics, forumers, and freaks!

 

:laugh:

[Duchess]

well you have all been duped. she sang LIVE in all her shows here is SA. and how do i know this..........i SAW her standing on the stage LIVE

i love it when she does sing live she seems to forget the lyrics, especially when she did ANDHC.

sophoan stop telling it like it is ok, you wasting your breath, some people just don't get it. we could start a rumour that celine parted the red sea and it would be believed .

[minniemare5]

What frustrates the most is that she's lip synching THE OPENING song of this tour. That sets the tone for the entire concert (not that everyone notices). I can understand her lipping TPOL, BYLM, TLYM, etc...because they are in the middle of the show, where she might need a break. I understand she's sick of those songs and MHWGO..so am I! I wouldn't miss them if they were taken out, and I wish she would sing more from CHANCES and D'elles, but we all know the general population of Celine fans go to see her perform the "classics".

 

I'm not going to turn my back on Celine, but I am EXTREMELY disappointed. I always knew she lipped on TV, but I never knew so many of her live performances were lipped, until I saw all these videos on youtube. I spent WAY to much money (approx. $2,000..I know it's insane) to see her 3 times during this tour (one of which is the insanely priced hot seat package with the sound check..btw does anyone know if she lips during soundchecks, to check the technology of playback?) to see her lipsynch half of the show. It's unfortunate, but I hope it comes out, and maybe Celine will make changes. She should perform songs she can sing without lipping, perform less songs a night, or not do as many shows if that's what it takes to keep her voice in top shape. Does anyone know if she's still doing her vocal exercises and resting her voice like she used to do diligently? I thought I read or saw that she hadn't been doing them as much since Vegas because her voice doesn't control her anymore. Just a thought, but maybe that is why she is lipping more, she hasn't been caring for her voice as well as she used to.

 

I don't mean to sound mean..I still LOVE her..I'm just disappointed. I am extremely thankful that she's touring at all right now, and I was honestly surprised that she was going to another tour so soon after Vegas. But, maybe it was too soon.

[Love,]

well you have all been duped. she sang LIVE in all her shows here is SA. and how do i know this..........i SAW her standing on the stage LIVE

i love it when she does sing live she seems to forget the lyrics, especially when she did ANDHC.

sophoan stop telling it like it is ok, you wasting your breath, some people just don't get it. we could start a rumour that celine parted the red sea and it would be believed .

 

:sofunny:

 

You know, that I've really enjoyed posting in this thread.

 

 

If so, Celine must be "Nefer-no-titti" !

 

 

i love your posts - 100 times more creative than this whole "Taking-chances-but-not-really-we-just-dish-out-our-old-crap"-Tour....

 

HAHA! I'm glad you got my joke

 

I don't mean to sound mean..I still LOVE her..I'm just disappointed. I am extremely thankful that she's touring at all right now, and I was honestly surprised that she was going to another tour so soon after Vegas. But, maybe it was too soon.

 

I know it's polite, but you shouldn't have to apologize at all for expressing your thoughts and your opinion, especially in such a sincere fashion.

 

Thanking Celine? I don't know about that...

Although it's a cordial thing to thank someone for doing a show - it's truly the audience who should be thanked.

Edited August 6, 2008 at 04:01 AM by Love,

[smw]

What frustrates the most is that she's lip synching THE OPENING song of this tour. That sets the tone for the entire concert (not that everyone notices). I can understand her lipping TPOL, BYLM, TLYM, etc...because they are in the middle of the show, where she might need a break. I understand she's sick of those songs and MHWGO..so am I! I wouldn't miss them if they were taken out, and I wish she would sing more from CHANCES and D'elles, but we all know the general population of Celine fans go to see her perform the "classics".

 

I'm not going to turn my back on Celine, but I am EXTREMELY disappointed. I always knew she lipped on TV, but I never knew so many of her live performances were lipped, until I saw all these videos on youtube. I spent WAY to much money (approx. $2,000..I know it's insane) to see her 3 times during this tour (one of which is the insanely priced hot seat package with the sound check..btw does anyone know if she lips during soundchecks, to check the technology of playback?) to see her lipsynch half of the show. It's unfortunate, but I hope it comes out, and maybe Celine will make changes. She should perform songs she can sing without lipping, perform less songs a night, or not do as many shows if that's what it takes to keep her voice in top shape. Does anyone know if she's still doing her vocal exercises and resting her voice like she used to do diligently? I thought I read or saw that she hadn't been doing them as much since Vegas because her voice doesn't control her anymore. Just a thought, but maybe that is why she is lipping more, she hasn't been caring for her voice as well as she used to.

 

I don't mean to sound mean..I still LOVE her..I'm just disappointed. I am extremely thankful that she's touring at all right now, and I was honestly surprised that she was going to another tour so soon after Vegas. But, maybe it was too soon.

 

The Power of Love was lipped during the Falling Into You Tour - and that opened the concert.......

[Jan]

I've become so suspicious that I see more lipped songs than they already are?

What are you, my shrink?

 

I don't over-exaggerate.

I love to joke and be humorous, but I can be quite reasonable and logical.

 

I take things at face value.

I saw what I saw and I heard what I heard.

 

Take the time to read my other posts in this thread before you draw any conclusions on me. [/color]

 

If you are that reasonable and logical, you can admit you were mistaken in the case of RDMH and Alone. Céline's lipped repertoire is sadly big enough, we shouldn't make it even bigger.

[zoea2812]

Im just sad that people who are supposed to be fans of celine want to see her embroiled in some sort of media circus.Its such a shame.

[MartinMunich]

In the end - if this story makes the yellow press which I hope it does - it won´t make a big difference to Celines career, I am sure.

 

In the end, nobody is buying her records anymore anyways.

"Taking chances" was a major flop. Although she did a huge promotion tour, doing Oprah, all the important TV shows..

What went wrong? The same thing that went wrong with that tour.

 

Instead of singing her new songs she was doing her old Vegas stuff, singing (well, miming) her old songs instead of belting out great songs like "This time" or "My love".

And Celine and her "creative advisor"/husband think they can still wow people with this old stuff? Obviously not.

 

It worked in Vegas (if you consider having organzied bus tours with countryside housewives as an audience as a success), and this is considered as a success financially, but for her, doing this at the very height of her career, it was the beginning of the end.

 

Doing this tour the way they do it is only consequent - half hearted, dishing out the old s**t on old playback tapes, to me it looks like a sell out in a way.

 

Overdoing this lipsynching (and clearly NOBODY in the music industry is doing it that massively in a live concert) is just the icing on the cake.

 

I really hope this subject to make it to the press in a big big way - if all goes well it starts a healing process, but she and her team should get what they deserve for dishing out this cheap embarrassing tour.

 

Otherwise not only her heart will go on, but the fake goes on and on and on.....

Edited August 6, 2008 at 08:13 AM by MartinMunich

[zoea2812]

Oh my good god!!!!!

[Bralo20]

They were allowed in most places.

 

Small pocketcamera's were indeed allowed during several shows however audio recording devices were never allowed at any show... Recording is audio is a violation of the copyright so this will never be tolerated but since audio recorders are rather small you can easily hide them and sneak them inside. Even with a bit bigger more professional devices it's still rather easy to hide.

 

Bootlegs are from all time, recorders were smuggled inside for decades but the technique stoodn't still during those years, recorders became smaller and produced better quality... Today it's rather easy to produce a (semi) professional recording from a bootleg, certainly when it's recorded at high quality. You just need to clean the tracks from additional noice, add some enhancements and burn it on a disc and you have yourself a first class live cd from the show.

 

With this high quality recordings it is actually easy to compare tracks for similarities and even get a complete match if the tracks used during a show are previous used audio tracks (which you can obtain by buying her cd's and dvd's). You can do it by just lisiting to the tracks, you can play them together, you can compare the audio track by using audio processing software and you can even use software that analyses the tracks...

 

Since several small pocket camera's have the capability to record a sort of high definition recordings you can produce some very nice video's from a show. Add the high quality audio recordings to the high quality video's and it's very easy to find something that isn't right.

 

And if someone is suspicious about her performance it's easy for them to find the answers...

 

Since the European and Asian tour has finished I think that some changes will be made to the policy about the use of camera's and audio recorders... However since camera's and audio recorders are becoming smaller and smaller I don't think it will have a decent effect on the amount of footage available after a show. Unless they follow the Vegas policy and check everyone thoroughly before entering the hall.

[Davey84]

As for the mentioned Christina Aguilera, the tour mentioned Back To Basics was live, however by the time the dvd recording came round the baby in her belly had made itself known, so the more strenuous performances became lipped i think. But go back to her Stripped tour, that was live start to finish (on the dvd Get Mine Get Yours beginning was dubbed over as you can tell from the lack of facial close ups and fast changing camera work). The admiration i have for Christina is that she isn't afraid to tackle massive notes for fear of failure, one such being during her performance of At Last which is the single greatest moment i've witnessed/heard live in concert

 

well let's put everything in perspective... When Céline was at the begining of her career every damn note she sang was 100% live and she blew everyone away! But then she lost her voice... now as I see it, she had 2 options, perform less nights, or lip parts that are straining on her voice! Now knowing René a bit I assume that he would never go for option 1, so taadaa entree option number 2

 

(one of which is the insanely priced hot seat package with the sound check..btw does anyone know if she lips during soundchecks, to check the technology of playback?) to see her lipsynch half of the show.

 

 

What frustrates the most is that she's lip synching THE OPENING song of this tour. That sets the tone for the entire concert (not that everyone notices).

The Power of Love was lipped during the Falling Into You Tour - and that opened the concert.......

 

yeah I was thinking the same, and wanted to post that too... that doesn't make it right though... I'd rather have MHGWO as a begining and just have it over with!

 

 

Oke all in all in conclusion:

 

1) Changes have to be made;

 

that should mean:

 

2) get rid of the boring songs! Céline is the star! If she doesn't want to sing them anymore, it's her choice! if people want to hear TPOL or MHWGO, they should play TCOML, TCOML DVD, LAO, LAP, ATW, ACDS DVD or AND DVD and for MHWGO; LTAL, Titanic soundtrack, ATW, ACDS DVD, AND...LIL or AND DVD choices too many and you get the same version most of the times

3) show another side of Céline! why let her record all those amazing new songs, if she won't perform them??!! I thought she once said that the fun of recording an album is to perform the songs live for an audience

4) plus she has recorded over 250 songs pre 2000, why sing the same old 10 standards? (this goes for the tributes and medleys as well!

5) sing less songs, or less songs that are straining for your voice. the concert doesn't have to be shorter, the dances could do intermissions!

6) Let fans choose a few songs for the concert... they are the ones who travel across the globe to see her!

7) LESS CONCERT DATES!! René, 'oney! You made enough money already! Don't make Céline work as hard as in the 90ies! this tour is just too big and too expensive!

Edited August 6, 2008 at 08:33 AM by Davey84

[Bralo20]

I just wondering if her team has gotten a hold of this yet, when do u think she will make a statement. I 'm surprised no body has told the tabloists yet. Have wait and see... btw, When I first read this my heart fell to the floor.I could not belive what I was reading. after looking at vidoes I can now see what everyone is talking about. Any I still LOVE HER, and will still stand behind her NO MADDER WHAT.

 

They certain had hold of this article. After I read the article in the newspaper I've sended a mail to her management to ask for a statement since it became official news but until today no reaction has been mailed to me... And normally they react within a day, 2 at most.

 

They will probably just ignore it and hope that it won't become news in the rest of Europe and the US...

 

Because if they have to make a statement it will be a difficult one. Obviously they can't deny it because there is evidence about her lipsync but they can also not just state that she is using lipsync and so it will be...

 

If they make a statement it will be a statement where several people worked on for days to be sure that this thing will not explode in her face and infect her career...

 

We'll have to wait and see if there will follow a statement or not.

[celine_026]

People...

 

nothing is going to happen.

 

nobody cares about Celine, not even to say bad things about her...

 

She has just turned into some kind of freaky has-been

[fred]

In the end - if this story makes the yellow press which I hope it does - it won´t make a big difference to Celines career, I am sure.

 

In the end, nobody is buying her records anymore anyways.

"Taking chances" was a major flop. Although she did a huge promotion tour, doing Oprah, all the important TV shows..

What went wrong? The same thing that went wrong with that tour.

 

Instead of singing her new songs she was doing her old Vegas stuff, singing (well, miming) her old songs instead of belting out great songs like "This time" or "My love".

And Celine and her "creative advisor"/husband think they can still wow people with this old stuff? Obviously not.

 

It worked in Vegas (if you consider having organzied bus tours with countryside housewives as an audience as a success), and this is considered as a success financially, but for her, doing this at the very height of her career, it was the beginning of the end.

 

Doing this tour the way they do it is only consequent - half hearted, dishing out the old s**t on old playback tapes, to me it looks like a sell out in a way.

 

Overdoing this lipsynching (and clearly NOBODY in the music industry is doing it that massively in a live concert) is just the icing on the cake.

 

I really hope this subject to make it to the press in a big big way - if all goes well it starts a healing process, but she and her team should get what they deserve for dishing out this cheap embarrassing tour.

 

Otherwise not only her heart will go on, but the fake goes on and on and on.....

Kinda agree with everything on there and would like to empathize that yes this tour is a sell out.

 

It's clear they don't wanna fuel her carreer with more hits, it seems as if they plan a suptile farewell.

 

/fred

[Shamrock_1982]

I do think this will be her last ''world tour''....

 

I'm not saying she will retire straight away, but in the future I see her doing another vegas show ( as this rumour is currently circulating - 2010 ) but on a schedule like elton's residency, and then she'll probably take a long break from the business ( maybe 4 years or more ) and decide on what she wants to do next....

 

Darren.

[Davey84]

I do think this will be her last ''world tour''....

 

I'm not saying she will retire straight away, but in the future I see her doing another vegas show ( as this rumour is currently circulating - 2010 ) but on a schedule like elton's residency, and then she'll probably take a long break from the business ( maybe 4 years or more ) and decide on what she wants to do next....

 

Darren.

 

well I wouldn't mind actually... but I'd rather see her perform in the Olympia or Zenith again, then in big stadiums. maybe Céline will go back to her roots in Canada... I think it all depends on what will happen ( René also isn't one of the youngest anymore...) Although I don't think she could or want to stop completly... singing is a big part of her life!

[schaafi]

this whole topic makes me so sad, please Celine stop the lipsincing or at least cut it, we don't want a robot celine who doesn't even seem to like what she's doing! I saw her many times looking sad and serious before or after a show and then switching to the happy face as soon as she's on stage and I'm really starting to doubt if she has still fun on stage as she used to have!

 

I saw her back in 1996, 1997 and 1999 and she was a lot different then, laughing, talking and really enjoying herself on stage. Now she's doing a kind of show routine, with a lot of choreographed movements, gestures and mimics, and I really really still love her and enjoyed every of the four concerts I saw this years, and I also enjoyed her in Vegas, but still it's different! I feel like I'm starting to doubt her, I used to believe in every word she said, every tear she shed and every note she sang! Now I'm really afraid that I might loose my faith in her and I don't want that, so please Celine, change something on this tour because all this lipsynching makes you look like a woman who is forced go on stage and would rather be somewhere else, not like the celine i fell in love with 12 years ago who just couldn't get enough applause and seemed like she was born to be on stage!

[MartinMunich]

People...

 

nothing is going to happen.

 

nobody cares about Celine, not even to say bad things about her...

 

She has just turned into some kind of freaky has-been

 

this is so true, i think...

 

though i found this tour horrible overall, especially when she is the pose-striking playback roboter, she had some amazing moments during the concert, and this was when she was doing some of her new songs LIVE, like "My love" or "Taking chances" - amazing.

Warmhearted performances, you can tell that she was so into those songs, no screaming, no need for overdone high notes, simply beautiful.

It would be enough to have one or two belters in her live concerts - as a "highlight", if you will - but do those live.

 

Seeing of what celine is capable of doing if you just let her hurts in a way because somebody (we all can imagine who that someone is) keeps telling her that this is the right way to do it.

 

With this very good new material and some old songs she could have given the world a new celine that has developed as an artist - what we got has been discussed many times in this and other treads: the opposite.

 

very sad in a way - if things don´t change and she continues going that direction we will have this freaky lipsynching catalogue-performer with a vegas-show, tribute-albums and a christmas album every now and then.

 

To come back to the thread: I still hope the press outs her - LET THE HEALING BEGIN

And healing hurts sometimes.

 

But I also doubt that anything will happen to be honest - it will continue like that.

I would be happy as can be if she would find her way back - would be like getting a lost friend back....

[Love,]

People...

 

nothing is going to happen.

 

nobody cares about Celine, not even to say bad things about her...

 

Are you sure about that, bud?

 

I mean... the rumor of her using too much water became world news!

[Bellamy]

In the end, nobody is buying her records anymore anyways.

"Taking chances" was a major flop. Although she did a huge promotion tour, doing Oprah, all the important TV shows..

What went wrong? The same thing that went wrong with that tour.

This is not true. Taking Chances did well on chart. It sold more than 3million copies worldwide, and over 1million in the US. Look at Madonna, Mariah, Janet, Britney... Their latest albums sold much less than TC.

[celine_026]

People...

 

nothing is going to happen.

 

nobody cares about Celine, not even to say bad things about her...

 

Are you sure about that, bud?

 

I mean... the rumor of her using too much water became world news!

 

You know...

 

what really pisses me off:

 

1. The album that 'EVERYONE is TALKING ABOUT'

is the album that ONLY US talk about, only to say that it could HAVE BEEN

better promoted, better used, better sold.

 

2. The tour after vegas that was supposed to be tremendously successful

is an average tour that uses playback in HALF of the songs;

has those freaky dances; Celine in a barbie-like position.

I would prefer seeing her ALONE on stage, something like Live À Paris,

with a big lights and stage effects (which resume to elevators on this tour)

 

But to get back on track:

 

Love, I don't really think that something's gonna happen.

It was supposed to, already. How many days since the first article?

This things go fast.

Edited August 6, 2008 at 10:28 AM by marcospriateli

[celine_026]

In the end, nobody is buying her records anymore anyways.

"Taking chances" was a major flop. Although she did a huge promotion tour, doing Oprah, all the important TV shows..

What went wrong? The same thing that went wrong with that tour.

This is not true. Taking Chances did well on chart. It sold more than 3million copies worldwide, and over 1million in the US. Look at Madonna, Mariah, Janet, Britney... Their latest albums sold much less than TC.

 

This is because of... US? I do believe we are one of the biggest fan bases

and one of the most non-cared about!

 

That guy from the dvd, the one from the Felling said

"Her core fans didn't like her hair, so she had to change it"

I guess it was the only time they've listened to us.

 

If she thinks that giving out autographs in the middle of the street

is caring out for us -- she's wrong. It's only doing bad for her safety.

 

How many versions of TC do you have?

I do love to buy this things

But when I look at those... I think

What's the value of this? Only one single, wasted, non well released...

It makes me so sad.

[stevo]

But the show (centre stage) is incredible- she can't just stand there and sing- people want something more than that these days. She puts an enormous amount of energy into each performance- the lipping (apart from IDAN as it opens the show) doesn't bother me because when she sings It's A Man's World, or Alone or RDMH or IA or TC or BYLM or ABM or TSMGO or ML or PQTME it's phenomenal. Not just average. Who would have thought we'd hear that bombastic range and power and ad libbing on each performance of Man's World- that isn't an ordinary singer- it's bloody well amazing. If she wants to mime the high note on ABM- she can- she must be afraid she can't deliver it but the fans and the people need that note every night- the pressure she is under is immense.

 

I'm not excusing her as she is fooling people and still people here don't see that she does it- I just think that she should have scrapped the majority of the old stuff- and maybe just did her 3 biggest hits from the past- I truly belive she mimes them because she is bored to tears.

 

Controversial- but I think she should go to Arista records and let Clive Davis and the team there inject some modern day R n B Alicia, Christina, Whitney, Jennifer Hudson life into Celine. Rene needs to step back and let a new team shake it up a bit. This is the Celine Dion Forum and our artist is in the middle of a massive and successful world tour and we are embroiled in this hateful discussion of her miming- she has got 'lazy'- in the sense that she is taking things for granted without doubt- she expects success and Rene is in the wings telling her, assuring her that all is well. I believe she is in a bubble.

 

Taking Chances is a great album. It is new for her. But everything about the promotion was false promises. It's Sony, it's Rene, it's Celine- they all need to run across the flames and waken up a bit and take a frigging chance. Where was the sexy r n bish duet she should have recorded to inject some publicity now 8 months after the album has been released. She's 40- she loves feeling 'hot'- it's time to get out there and get it on. I will be so upset if this is the way she is going to fizzle out into retirement again.

 

Literally fizzle.

Edited August 6, 2008 at 10:46 AM by stevo