Céline under attack for using playback

[celinefanlux]

It won´t have any effect on the tour but her reputation will be damaged massively.

 

 

..or maybe not, you´re right - she is really good in what she does.

Can´t think of anybody doing this lipsynching more convincing than her.... pretending to be out of breath and so on.

 

Maybe business man Rene sees this as the new chance for a DVD as her records are not selling anymore anyways:

 

"Learing with Celine part 1 - Taking chances - everybody can sing.

Watch and learn how Ex-Superstar Celine Dion screwed her fans for ages"

 

..and as bonus feature Rene will give a crash course on how to make profit even if a tour is not selling that well.

Charge a fortune, rent the cheapest equipment for the stadiums, be happy.

 

You're too mean and too cruel for her...

 

I just wonder why some people call themselves Celine's fans if they so easily would love to punish her?! I don't say I like her lipping (I hate that), but I would never want her to be punished sooo harshly as some of you guys want to!

 

Why shouldn't she be punished? Just because she is a big star? Sorry but I feel punished too driving more than 600km to see my idol(or even people flying-flights are not that cheap), paying an hotel, and paying almost 200 Euros for the concert just to see the exact same performance I see everyday on my 'Live in Paris' , Au coeur du Stade' and 'A new day' DVD!

I can understand anybody who's complaining about this, I can even understand people bringing this to newspapers, because it has become ridiculous. And if this will ruin her reputation, it won't be the fault of people that are complaining about it, but exactly Celine's and her team's own fault.

If they were smart enough, why not change the playback tapes? I mean 14 years for The power of love, and always the same, that's not only ridiculous, but that's already a cheek and an insult for people being stupid.

She must change it, otherwise her reputation wil go down! And I don't know if its that what she needs...

[pat200]

I was honestly pissed because the a new day dvd was half lipped if not more. she just moves her lip so fast as if it is vibrato but that is not the case. of course i wish this lipping would stop, but i wouldn't wish her reputation any harm. i certainly don't think her lipping is going to affect her position among the greatest when all is said and done, because she is on this plateau of great singers that only streisand, franklin, houston, and early 90s carey are (i just mentioned english singing pop singers). plus i kind of have a feeling it is not her fault she lips, it is the greed of some who surround her and let her work like a machine...

[wunderbarCéline]

I don't like to see Céline lip-sync at concerts, especially when I have to pay 250 Euros ($390) for a ticket. This price is just out of the world!! For this huge amount of money every tone that comes out of her mouth has to be live!! Using playback means cheating and fooling the fans and that's really bad!

 

The problem is that Céline puts herself too much under pressure. She knows that she doesn't have prove anything anymore but she still wants to be absolutely perfect! However, I feel that the audience doesn't even want to see a perfect show. People love and appreciate some spontaneous interactions and I'm sure they don't mind if she screws up the words (they don't even notice) or if she doesn't hit a high note properly. The audience will always forgive an artist for making little mistakes like that because it's human. But they won’t forgive a singer for lipping! I read in some German papers that the shows were too perfect and that Céline was a prisoner of her own success.

 

While I agree that Céline should stop her playback-shows, I would never accuse her publicly of lipping and put videos together to prove it. I love and adore her....and I enjoyed the two shows I attended in my country tremendously! She's such a brilliant performer!! I'm not a blind follower, in fact I'm very critical, but I'm 100% loyal and I think that as a fan you have a responsibility and you have to think twice before you open your mouth and make accusations like that publicly. This is a very serious issue which could have a very negative effect on her image and career.

Yes, Céline and her management have to get the message and they have to change things in that respect...but in my opinion, the whole issue should have been handled differently by the fans or so-called fans. I’m totally against lipping but I’m also against fans who are happy to see the reputation of their idol being damaged!!

[GoldenLeaf]

Everybody should remember this popular quote.

 

"Everyone will experience the consequences of his own acts. If his act are right, he'll get good consequences; if they're not, he'll suffer for it." - Harry Browne

[tomaat]

If they were smart enough, why not change the playback tapes? I mean 14 years for The power of love, and always the same, that's not only ridiculous, but that's already a cheek and an insult for people being stupid.

Very true.

Edited August 4, 2008 at 05:35 PM by tomaat

[GoldenLeaf]

If they were smart enough, why not change the playback tapes? I mean 14 years for The power of love, and always the same, that's not only ridiculous, but that's already a cheek and an insult for people being stupid.

Very true.

Couldn't agree more with you guys! She needs to record new playback tapes for The power of love, To Love You More, It's All Coming Back To Me Now, I Drove All Night and My Heart Will Go On, if she wants to avoid a H-U-G-E scandal in America.

Edited August 4, 2008 at 05:41 PM by Calypso

[Galuush]

I’m totally against lipping but I’m also against fans who are happy to see the reputation of their idol being damaged!!

 

I totally agree with you!

[celine_026]

An acoustic medley of her signature songs sounds like a good idea. In the first place, Celine shouldn't have agreed to do the tour the way it's been. She said that after Vegas, she'd love to do something light and unplugged in very small venues.

 

That sounds a great ideia So bad they didn't came up with it

[celine4evauk]

I personally don't believe that she does it...

 

There are three reasons why anyone would deny Celine lipping:

• They live in a fantasy world

• They are deaf

• They are blind

 

All by myself, only one note is lips ; Alone, just the end.

 

The show must go on & River deep are not lipsynch.

 

All By Myself:

http://www.celinedionforum.com/index.php?s...t&p=1093940

 

The Show Must Go On:

Just put any two YouTube video of "Show Must Go On" and you'll see and hear.

 

rdmh lipped??

 

Since Vegas.

 

RDMH wasn't lipped in London. A lot of it at the end she wasn't singing - the croud were. That would be hard to pull off if it was playback.

[Nikosn17]

the only thing i couldn't understand is the "fans" who are still in denial of the very obvious fact that celine does lipsynching, like anybody else in the business, but not as often as she does.

 

if the media needs a proof that celine still have "that voice" they they believe she once had, they can call her anytime to give them a private performance (i know this is stupid, it won't happen LOL). not to prove herself again, but to make them feel like CRAP and STUPID.

 

however, i don't get it why her playbacking issue is growing really fast, while mariah's infamous "voice deterioration" is still yet to be unfold up to this point. mariah is still regarded as 'THE VOICE", but the fact that she completely lost it over a decade ago remains to be unseen by many.

 

almost everybody knows celine is one hell of a vocalist, and i still can't think of ANYONE who can outsing her live singing-wise. her addiction of lipping some parts of her song, i have to admit, is getting a little out of hand and is annoying, but give the media all her dvd sessions from TC, maybe then they will realize how gifted celine really is.

 

Although the media doesn't admit it (note that the media doesn't admit that for nobody) , everybody knows Mariah's voice is not what it was. Celine is in a fantastic vocal condition now imo. And if these people want to hear good live vocals on the tour they can check ''Man's World''. That's the best example. + The media doesn't said that Celine has no voice anymore. They are just saying that she is lipping. She has nothing to prove. But I do think that lipping half of the concert is just too much.

 

I agree with Calypso that she should record some new hot vocals. And what I was thinking was that if they release this tour on DVD (as we all know they probably will), people who are not that hard core fans and have the ''A New Day...'' DVD as well will notice that the performances of IACBTMN, MHWGO, TLYM sounds exactly the same on the 2 DVD's. They should have recorded new vocals for these songs, or if they're not gonna do this, they should dub these performances while editing the DVD.

Edited August 4, 2008 at 06:03 PM by Nikosn17

[Bralo20]

It was just a matter of time to the day the playback issue would eventually explode... And this is not the fault of the fans or the so called fans but it is the fault of Ms. Dion and certainly her team... I'm rather certain that no fans would have involved the media in this issue directly. But you can't rule out that journalists, photographers, music critics, etc... are surfing the internet and following the artists by foot. There were some rumours in the past about the playback and like a real gentleman the media didn't brought the news untill she really screwed up... And even then the media didn't brought the news before they checked the "accusations" themself... They even contacted people from the music industries to be sure that they weren't bringing any lies...

 

And after they received confirmation from several sources they brought eventually the news, about one month after the last concert took place in Europa...

 

If the media was really trying to "hurt" a career they would have brought the news right in the middle of the concerts as an headline on the first page of the newspaper or even on television... But they just didn't do this... First because they wanted to be sure about the story they brought and second because no one could imagine that the best vocalist on this planet was using tape recordings on her show, you can easily read it in the news articles that they just couldn't believe it that Ms Dion, one of the biggest females artists during the past decades was using tape recordings...

 

Ofcourse they had to bring the news, it IS actually news and as a newspaper or what other media they were obligate to bring the news... The readers had the right to know the truth... So they brought the news in a decent manner, not in the frontpage but in a specialised part of the newspaper and with respect for Ms. Dion...

 

Depending on what other media will do this will certainly NOT ruin her career... In fact she has become a music legend so there is few that she can do to actually ruin her career. Not even the use of lipsync...

 

However I personally think that a proper reaction from Ms. Dion, her management or the recordcompany would be in place... A reaction where they confirm the use of lipsync but where they also appologise for not communicating this issue to the fans and the media. A reaction where a small explanation will be made for her use of lipsync... They can tell that it's the result of her sickness during the first concerts and that she had to protect her voice, bla bla bla...

 

When done so, fans, music critics, journalists, etc... will agree with the statement and the issue will be closed. Hopefully a lesson will be learned from it by the management so no mistakes like this will be made in the future.

 

In the meantime more and more Belgian sites are picking up the news from the original website...

[Shamrock_1982]

Hi Guys

 

Please don't jump done my throat here....but we have all had our say, either way on the matter, and I think its time to lock this post!

Put it to rest and move on, its already yesterdays news, and touch wood, lets hope nothing more becomes of it .....

If it does than fair enough, we can create a new topic, if we see fit!!

 

At the end of the day we are on on this board because we love celine, and we are all entitled to our say...

But no ones perfect not even celine which she'll easily admit, but shes human like the rest of us!

We know she has an amazing voice and can deliver, most singers lip also which we have covered, but watever her reason to do it so much, I'm sure its a good one!

 

Lets just wait and see what the u.s/canada leg of the tour bring, and lets try and be positive!

We may see changes, and if we don't it won't change how we feel about Celine...(well me anyway!! )

 

Darren.

[Bralo20]

RDMH wasn't lipped in London. A lot of it at the end she wasn't singing - the croud were. That would be hard to pull off if it was playback.

 

It's very easy though: you just have to reduce the volume of the tape... The crowd can sing and when Céline wants to sing further they just have to higher the volume of the tape...

[Bralo20]

Hi Guys

 

Please don't jump done my throat here....but we have all had our say, either way on the matter, and I think its time to lock this post!

Put it to rest and move on, its already yesterdays news, and touch wood, lets hope nothing more becomes of it .....

If it does than fair enough, we can create a new topic, if we see fit!!

 

I won't jump your throat but please let me make some remarks

Why should the thread have to be closed? Why can't something that is not so positive about an artist be discussed on this board?

Untill now the discussion was serene and calm...

And it's not yesterdays news, it's present news and it will be even news in the future...

 

At the end of the day we are on on this board because we love celine, and we are all entitled to our say...

But no ones perfect not even celine which she'll easily admit, but shes human like the rest of us!

We know she has an amazing voice and can deliver, most singers lip also which we have covered, but watever her reason to do it so much, I'm sure its a good one!

 

For certain that we all "love" Céline in one way or another but tell me honestly, is loving an artist only to cheer her (or how do you say it in English?)? Is loving an artist not also to be open for the lesser part of an artist? To accept that an artist has maybe done some mistakes?

 

Otherwise this side can be renamed to the "Céline Dion Shrine", which will be a better name if no discussion about her smaller sides can me made on this board. Don't you think so?

 

She was, is and remains an extraordinary vocal talent and I'm sure that is what most of us think about her...

 

Lets just wait and see what the u.s/canada leg of the tour bring, and lets try and be positive!

We may see changes, and if we don't it won't change how we feel about Celine...(well me anyway!! )

 

Darren.

 

Why deny something? Because it was just something that happened in Belgium? Our tiny country that has probably no mening for a lot of people on this board? And no Belgium is not the capital of Brussels Or because it just happened in Europe? A continent of no meaning?

 

It was news in several newspapers so I think it may be discussed...

 

And yes, I still love Céline and here repertoire although I honestly have to admit that I was a little disappointed when I heard the news more then 2 months ago...

 

 

Just my 2 cents

[Nando Férri]

Sooner or later iw would happen. It was just a matter of time...

As if it's a top secret before. Just like what happened in 1999, this won't change anything. I'm sure her team doesn't care about what the tabloids say, if they don't even care about a lawsuit. Wake up, if you actually think this would make a difference.

I know that it won't change a thing Bellamy. I don't even have this dream. She did playback everyday in Las Vegas for 5 years and... Just look what she is doing now. It won't change just because a simple article. I wish that the world press could talk about that as much as they talked about her horrible hair in 2003.

Edited August 4, 2008 at 06:53 PM by Nando Férri

[mirage]

thats why she cancelled her tv shows for the 8th...

she's in studio recording new live tracks...

 

lol imagine that day coming... that we see and hear some bootlegs and that they are totally different haha

[sezamka]

If the media was really trying to "hurt" a career they would have brought the news right in the middle of the concerts as an headline on the first page of the newspaper or even on television... But they just didn't do this... First because they wanted to be sure about the story they brought and second because no one could imagine that the best vocalist on this planet was using tape recordings on her show, you can easily read it in the news articles that they just couldn't believe it that Ms Dion, one of the biggest females artists during the past decades was using tape recordings...

i believe you've got the right information about the process of revealing the lip-synching issue, but how about this "script" " Hi, this is X-newspaper's journalist speaking, we've found something interesting and would like to know how much would you pay, Mr Angelil......" loollll

 

no, but really..we all know that journalists and newspapers are not the first ones to take care of celebrities. The fact that they revealed it after this certain leg of the tour and also the fact that they do not write about some, obvious things about singers(losing voice o Mariah e.g.)...i guess there must be some money involved?

Edited August 4, 2008 at 07:24 PM by sezamka

[Nikosn17]

thats why she cancelled her tv shows for the 8th...

she's in studio recording new live tracks...

 

lol imagine that day coming... that we see and hear some bootlegs and that they are totally different haha

 

yeah and after the first 3 concerts from the American leg you realise that they sound the same

[Davey84]

Please don't jump done my throat here....but we have all had our say, either way on the matter, and I think its time to lock this post!

Put it to rest and move on, its already yesterdays news, and touch wood, lets hope nothing more becomes of it .....

If it does than fair enough, we can create a new topic, if we see fit!!

 

I don't think it's yesterday's news... I'm afraid it is tomorrow's!!

 

RDMH wasn't lipped in London. A lot of it at the end she wasn't singing - the croud were. That would be hard to pull off if it was playback.

 

It's very easy though: you just have to reduce the volume of the tape... The crowd can sing and when Céline wants to sing further they just have to higher the volume of the tape...

 

I don't think her sound men is watching her every move to put the volume down, each time she reaches her mic to the crowd

 

thats why she cancelled her tv shows for the 8th...

she's in studio recording new live tracks...

 

lol imagine that day coming... that we see and hear some bootlegs and that they are totally different haha

 

Well if the orginial idea goes through and we'll have a french and an english one, don't they think that people will hear and see that some songs are completly the same?

[Bumble]

If they had to cancel the release of a 2 million dollar DVD of A New Day because of a stupid haircut, the playback scandal which is on the way has to go right to the ears of celine and her team, cause this time it is definitely a big issue that is worth talking about, rathen than a haircut or a platinum dye.

They'll definitely hear about the article. It's a fact. And I hope it will make them change their strategy for the better.

And in two years, you will cherish the day when the lipsynch fraud backfired at celine's face, cause it will be the begining of a metamorphosis in her career, when she'll sing songs that she really likes and enjoys singing (she said it herself, she loved those songs, but she's bored about those never ending notes...). Cause when someone says that she loves singing and performing live, but has to lipsycnh cause her vocal cords don't lead anymore, you're hearing about a singer who is sad of pretending singing what she used to be able to do.

[Love,]

Hi Guys

 

Please don't jump done my throat here....but we have all had our say, either way on the matter, and I think its time to lock this post!

Put it to rest and move on, its already yesterdays news, and touch wood, lets hope nothing more becomes of it .....

If it does than fair enough, we can create a new topic, if we see fit!!

 

I won't jump your throat but please let me make some remarks

Why should the thread have to be closed? Why can't something that is not so positive about an artist be discussed on this board?

Untill now the discussion was serene and calm...

And it's not yesterdays news, it's present news and it will be even news in the future...

 

At the end of the day we are on on this board because we love celine, and we are all entitled to our say...

But no ones perfect not even celine which she'll easily admit, but shes human like the rest of us!

We know she has an amazing voice and can deliver, most singers lip also which we have covered, but watever her reason to do it so much, I'm sure its a good one!

 

For certain that we all "love" Céline in one way or another but tell me honestly, is loving an artist only to cheer her (or how do you say it in English?)? Is loving an artist not also to be open for the lesser part of an artist? To accept that an artist has maybe done some mistakes?

 

Otherwise this side can be renamed to the "Céline Dion Shrine", which will be a better name if no discussion about her smaller sides can me made on this board. Don't you think so?

 

She was, is and remains an extraordinary vocal talent and I'm sure that is what most of us think about her...

 

Lets just wait and see what the u.s/canada leg of the tour bring, and lets try and be positive!

We may see changes, and if we don't it won't change how we feel about Celine...(well me anyway!! )

 

Darren.

Why deny something? Because it was just something that happened in Belgium? Our tiny country that has probably no mening for a lot of people on this board? And no Belgium is not the capital of Brussels Or because it just happened in Europe? A continent of no meaning?

 

It was news in several newspapers so I think it may be discussed...

 

And yes, I still love Céline and here repertoire although I honestly have to admit that I was a little disappointed when I heard the news more then 2 months ago...

 

 

Just my 2 cents

More like 200 Euros! I enjoyed reading your thoughtful comments.

 

This is not just Belgian news. It's not just one thing that happened in Belgium. (And, let's put Vegas aside for now, because that was 5 years of lipping already.) For this World Tour, it's happened E V E R Y W H E R E she's performed on this tour. Her Team a.k.a. Circle of Trust are very strategic about all this.

 

Yes, this news is fresh, and shall remain fresh because Celine will continue singing and doing her "lipping thing."

 

Yes, this topic should remain open.

This is a discussion forum, and with a discussion with so many people from different parts of the world comes debate, arguments, long speeches, short speeches, supported words, unsupported words, truths, lies, and everything in between!

 

 

 

I have never seen Sophoan as opinionated before. It's interesting...

 

I guess he has the right, uh?

EVERYONE has a right.

 

RDMH wasn't lipped in London. A lot of it at the end she wasn't singing - the croud were. That would be hard to pull off if it was playback.

They can turn up and down her playback track as easily as the volume...

And, with Celine, it's all planned.

It's not hard to memorize a song, it's not hard to memorize speeches and certainly it's not hard to remember where you should sing and where you shouldn't

 

RDMH wasn't lipped in London. A lot of it at the end she wasn't singing - the croud were. That would be hard to pull off if it was playback.

 

It's very easy though: you just have to reduce the volume of the tape... The crowd can sing and when Céline wants to sing further they just have to higher the volume of the tape...

I don't think her sound men is watching her every move to put the volume down, each time she reaches her mic to the crowd

Why are you sure that they're not watching her every move? For them to stage a show like this, especially since it's half live and live tracks and pre-recorded tracks have to be merged seamlessly - they have to be even more careful. Just a logical thought...

[Love,]

thats why she cancelled her tv shows for the 8th...

she's in studio recording new live tracks...

 

lol imagine that day coming... that we see and hear some bootlegs and that they are totally different haha

 

Well if the orginial idea goes through and we'll have a french and an english one, don't they think that people will hear and see that some songs are completly the same?

Well, if that happens, we'll see new videos from Bennybay!

 

Why shouldn't she be punished? Just because she is a big star? Sorry but I feel punished too driving more than 600km to see my idol(or even people flying-flights are not that cheap), paying an hotel, and paying almost 200 Euros for the concert just to see the exact same performance I see everyday on my 'Live in Paris' , Au coeur du Stade' and 'A new day' DVD!

LOL! I agree...

 

And putting that into my personal life, like I mentioned in another thread I've spent $5000 US Dollars on Celine alone this year.

 

I will still go see Celine perform.

I mean, when I know she's singing live, which I do, I cheer for her and scream and go all crazy like Kathy Griffin But when she lips in a performance - which is quite easy to tell because of that "BLANK FACE" (that Shon mentioned in another thread) I do a courtesy clap or I don't clap at all.

 

I can understand anybody who's complaining about this, I can even understand people bringing this to newspapers, because it has become ridiculous. And if this will ruin her reputation, it won't be the fault of people that are complaining about it, but exactly Celine's and her team's own fault. If they were smart enough, why not change the playback tapes? I mean 14 years for The power of love, and always the same, that's not only ridiculous, but that's already a cheek and an insult for people being stupid. She must change it, otherwise her reputation wil go down! And I don't know if its that what she needs...

I think that changing the playback tapes or leaving it the same way for 14 years is the same damn thing... AND I think that lipping 25% or 50% or 10% of your song or going full speed and lipping 100% of your song is the same damn thing... because it's still lipping! It's like taking a test... if you cheat on one answer, it's still cheating!

Edited August 4, 2008 at 08:46 PM by Love,

[topboy11]

Hi guys, oh no.

 

Erm not sure how I feel about this..... The shows were amazing and if anyone here has been or is a Whitney fan and read reviews and seen how poor Whitney suffers on tour and the absolute slating she gets in her reviews from press and fans when her voice is not on top form, night after night hitting those notes. If Celine was miming the whole show then yeh, not on, but she does not at all. It is sensible to synche the occassional song, if this means not cancelling dates and thousands of disapointed fans, like poor Whitney has had to do many times over the years. People would kick off if that happened and Celine was cancelling all the time.

 

Anyway I attended 5 shows in Europe and miming or not to some songs I was blown away and am a fan of a great singer and performerand that will remain.

 

Peace

[Love,]

If they had to cancel the release of a 2 million dollar DVD of A New Day because of a stupid haircut, the playback scandal which is on the way has to go right to the ears of celine and her team, cause this time it is definitely a big issue that is worth talking about, rathen than a haircut or a platinum dye.

They'll definitely hear about the article. It's a fact. And I hope it will make them change their strategy for the better.

And in two years, you will cherish the day when the lipsynch fraud backfired at celine's face, cause it will be the begining of a metamorphosis in her career, when she'll sing songs that she really likes and enjoys singing (she said it herself, she loved those songs, but she's bored about those never ending notes...). Cause when someone says that she loves singing and performing live, but has to lipsycnh cause her vocal cords don't lead anymore, you're hearing about a singer who is sad of pretending singing what she used to be able to do.

LOL... didn't she tell Oprah and many people this?

 

"My vocal chords don't lead my life anymore..."

 

Okay, Humor of the Day:

 

Oh now I know what she means by that:

 

Do you know what leads her life? Her playback tapes!

 

:mdr:

 

 

 

Edited August 4, 2008 at 08:52 PM by Love,

[ivo]

If they had to cancel the release of a 2 million dollar DVD of A New Day because of a stupid haircut, the playback scandal which is on the way has to go right to the ears of celine and her team, cause this time it is definitely a big issue that is worth talking about, rathen than a haircut or a platinum dye.

They'll definitely hear about the article. It's a fact. And I hope it will make them change their strategy for the better.

And in two years, you will cherish the day when the lipsynch fraud backfired at celine's face, cause it will be the begining of a metamorphosis in her career, when she'll sing songs that she really likes and enjoys singing (she said it herself, she loved those songs, but she's bored about those never ending notes...). Cause when someone says that she loves singing and performing live, but has to lipsycnh cause her vocal cords don't lead anymore, you're hearing about a singer who is sad of pretending singing what she used to be able to do.

LOL... didn't she tell Oprah and many people this?

 

"My vocal chords don't lead my life anymore..."

 

Okay, Humor of the Day:

 

Oh now I know what she means by that:

 

Do you know what leads her life? Her playback tapes!

 

:mdr:

 

 

 

 

I honestly don't understand why you travelled all the way to Munich, you are so negative about Celine. I really don't understand.

 

I hope after this she stops the playback.

[Nikosn17]

If they had to cancel the release of a 2 million dollar DVD of A New Day because of a stupid haircut, the playback scandal which is on the way has to go right to the ears of celine and her team, cause this time it is definitely a big issue that is worth talking about, rathen than a haircut or a platinum dye.

They'll definitely hear about the article. It's a fact. And I hope it will make them change their strategy for the better.

And in two years, you will cherish the day when the lipsynch fraud backfired at celine's face, cause it will be the begining of a metamorphosis in her career, when she'll sing songs that she really likes and enjoys singing (she said it herself, she loved those songs, but she's bored about those never ending notes...). Cause when someone says that she loves singing and performing live, but has to lipsycnh cause her vocal cords don't lead anymore, you're hearing about a singer who is sad of pretending singing what she used to be able to do.

LOL... didn't she tell Oprah and many people this?

 

"My vocal chords don't lead my life anymore..."

 

Okay, Humor of the Day:

 

Oh now I know what she means by that:

 

Do you know what leads her life? Her playback tapes!

 

:mdr:

 

 

 

 

I honestly don't understand why you travelled all the way to Munich, you are so negative about Celine. I really don't understand.

 

I hope after this she stops the playback.

 

That's not negativity he is just saying what he thinks. He is still a fan. Nobody is perfect.

[Love,]

I'm REAL.

 

 

Edited August 4, 2008 at 09:15 PM by Love,

[shorty]

So here is my point of view ....

 

Yes i saw Celine the very first time in concert and yes i was a little bit disappointed as i saw / hear that she was lip sync. with some of her songs....

okay i have also to say i was not really sure about that does she or does she not... I'm still

 

so i talked with my mum about this concert in Munich and she said no no this was LIVE ....

We have a big conversion about that...

 

But anyway it's over and i thought Celine had her reason why she used Playback

 

by the way i also saw a lot of artist and i guess Neil Diamond was the night i ever see...

 

 

Don't get me wrong i was so happy to see Celine live and i will don't miss it

 

 

So i hope you know what I try to say....?

[sezamka]

you don't have to read it all, because i'm repeating myself, just skip it and go to conclusion, if you like:D

 

for me on the one hand she is lipping because she has to sing her "base songs" which don't-nowadays- go hand in hand with condition of her vocal cords. But she can't drop them, because nothing as famous as them has been sung since 2000. So who can say for sure, that if she chose to sing her beloved songs(different than her best hits), there would be still as many people around the world ready to pay as much as the do now to see her? I think not many people( except from die-hard fans) would go on her show just to discover that he/she listens to some

unknown music? people HAVE to have fun, the have to recognize most of the songs, sing along, because otherwise the show doesn't work, it doesn't "move" people , doesn't make them go crazy. We all love to listen in a party or at a show songs we KNOW just like we know what our name is. I am sure that now you'll say, that all of fans have to recognize every song from every album and if not, then they sould just be happy with having a chance to listen to her performing live. Cos "everything we do, we do for her well-being", that's a true fan motto. But we became fans due to some catchy tunes plus wise words plus unique voice. There are many people that discovered Celine after MHWGO, so after a hit. That's why we want to listen to our most beloved songs live, so we go to the show:D I would sing along a lot of other songs, but i am sure that half of people in the audience wouldn't. POP singers sing for masses, so they can't just sing whatever the like, they have to be as "universal" as possible and count mainly on their biggest hits on their shows.

 

Another thing is that there probably wouldn't be any case if she didn't go to Vegas and decided somehow not to promote her new singles and not to create other massive hits. Because if things had gone on in a simple way, we would have had a real "taking chances tour", with NEW AMAZING hits, well promoted, known by mass audience all around the world. And so, we would probably have had great shows, live performances and full of fun. Because people would RECOGNIZE those new singles, would LOVE them, would be able to SING ALONG, and , subsequently would die to attend the show to see "THEIR" SONGS sung LIVE.

 

But with all she's got today, she cannot base on her new singles to do the show, because a lot of people, having found it out, would decide not to go. Those singles are not hits, people don't even know them, eeech..."i'd better go to see .....". Of course, on her show there would be a lot of die-hard fans, but it's too few for a pop-singer to start the tour.

 

As a conclusion - when you don't step forward or you stop, you actually move back. Celine's career as a POP singer stopped(lack of new catchy , well promoted songs, that would conquer the crowd's hearts), so -if someone decided that's a good time to make money on the tour and the tour lasts, the one knows that it must be based on the past. But she can't sing those songs anymore...a circle.

CONCLUSION

1. she must sings old,well-known tracks,cos she's a pop singer, singing hits recognizable for masses, but she can't, so she has to lip-synch, knowing that's a thin ice, due to wisdom of her fans.

2. she wants to sings new songs live, but there are no big hits, which means for her:lost of money, lost of worldwide interest(she's no longer on the top, for pop-singer it's a tragedy), rumour about her ending career.

- the first one worse for her opinion in the world music endustry, but good for us, fans.

- the second, better for her, cos everybody can see now she's still a pop star No 1, everybody knows all her hits performed on stage, a lot of sold-out shows, bad for fans, who would like her welfare, would like to be respected, because they've been with her for so many years and are devoted to her music still and want her to just follow the path of career, no matter if it's a hossa or bessa time* and just stop being a "prisoner of her own success", because she still wants her world to be perfect.

 

* and if time shows it's bessa, then you have to learn from it and improve something. But the Celine's team just want stick themselves to a warm homeland of safe, well-known old tracks.

 

that's only my opinion, don't eat me with hooves for it;D

 

CONCLUSION MADE AFTER THE PREVIOUS CONCLUSION - that's why i UNDERSTAND HER LIP-SYNCHING:) and for me this is the best she could do in such a strange decision of making a tour. Not lip-synching, if she really can't sing those songs live, and watching people saying "uuhh?.....WTF?" when show after show she's screwing sth up, being ashamed of herself in front of people who could see clearly she had problems with her own best songs.... would have to be ..let's say softly BAD;] for her ;] She's perfectionist, she wouldn't got stuck in something like this...in my opinion.

Edited August 4, 2008 at 10:09 PM by sezamka

[QueenCeline]

LOL I just don't accept lipsynching