Céline under attack for using playback

[Bralo20]

No the general audience won't have clue about that. This happened due to some videos made by Celine fans. I even know which ones.

 

The (illegal) videos and bootlegs have played a great part in this mather but you just can't blame it all on the vids or the bootlegs...

I know, back in the past there weren't high definition recordings during the shows by the audience and also bootlegs were from a lower quality then these days now...

 

So indeed, it was just a matter of time when the stories found on the internet would get the attention of the media... However, it can't be blamed completely on the vids nor the bootlegs. When you have actually visit a show without knowing the fact she uses live on tape recordings you can (easily) discover that she isn't singing live the entire time... Even in the Antwerp concerts, which I found GREAT, I noticed that there was something wrong... It wasn't so clear as other shows but there was a something that made me suspicious. And yes, with the huge amount of video footage and bootlegs you can find it what was actually wrong...

 

But in some shows it was very clear that she was using live on tape since she made several (small) mistakes...

 

As for me personally I don't mind if she is playbacking or not... I like the total package of the show and not only her vocal qualities... But she should be better trained to exclude minor mistakes which make it obvious that she isn't singing live...

 

Lot of artists are using live on tape but most are trained better so it won't be to clear that they aren't singing live

 

 

Just my 2 cents

[Terre]

Well, I knew this day was coming, I just didn't know when. I think it's just dissapointing how she has to lip a good chunk of her concerts. Plus, it's the songs that "everyone wants to hear", apparently. Why is she lipping stale and dry tracks, that nobody wants to hear? Oh, yeah, the "casual" fan wants to hear them. Well, her "casual" fans should go buy Taking Chances and not throw a fit because their precious BYLM wasn't there or something. It's a real slap in the face to her fans, who are paying top dollar to see a *live* show, that she's lipping the same tracks she lipped in Vegas to for 5 years, and even worse with TPOL, the same track that's been used for 14 years! Is Celine's team *that* stupid that they think "Oh, nobody will notice that it's a 12 year old track!"? I honestly would hate it if there was a scandal around her, but if that's what it takes for her to get her act together, remix her greatest hits and sing 'em live or take them out, and cut down on her lipping, then maybe some scandal would do her good.

 

I agree!

[chipnaughty]

Keep calm....I think it's no problem...every stars did that and I think Celine must to keep warm her voice....That's nothing.

[Bralo20]

Btw: The video's displayed on the newspaper's website were all removed from Youtube...

[Shamrock_1982]

Btw: The video's displayed on the newspaper's website were all removed from Youtube...

 

Good!!

 

But then again its youtube...they'll be back on there within days, if not hours....I've seen it happen before!!

 

Darren

Edited August 3, 2008 at 07:43 PM by Ire23

[Koolan]

Btw: The video's displayed on the newspaper's website were all removed from Youtube...

They are still there....

[QueenCeline]

I always wondered if the dancers could hear her singing, when they were close for some songs, but then when she is lipping and they are close to her if they notice a difference?? Or if they noticed just night after night?

 

Edit - I hope this small encounter will set her back on track and open her eyes a bit, if not, then she and anyone else (managers and such) are crazy.

Edited August 3, 2008 at 07:47 PM by Tbar100

[Bralo20]

Btw: The video's displayed on the newspaper's website were all removed from Youtube...

They are still there....

 

I just tried to play the videos following the links on the newspaper's site and it said "video removed".

;-)

[Lymon]

It's not much difference if the videos are down or not, their damage has been done, and the story will spread to different media's. As somebody else said, the British press is going to be very nasty with her if they write a story on this. Here's to hoping this will finally smarten Celine and her team up, and make some major changes to the setlist before the next leg of the tour.

[alexisthess]

I honestly would hate it if there was a scandal around her, but if that's what it takes for her to get her act together, remix her greatest hits and sing 'em live or take them out, and cut down on her lipping, then maybe some scandal would do her good.

 

I totally agree!

[ce-line]

We all knew this would happen, let's just hope it doesn't turn out as a scandal!

 

I agree that they should make some changes in the setlist. I mean it's not that

we won't love Céline as much as always just because she can't hit all the notes she could

hit ten years ago, if that's what they think!

[QueenCeline]

I think one of the major reasons she began liping so much is because she was known as one of the best singers in the business. After that, my guess is her managers and stuff wanted her to be perfect all the time (I can understand), but lipping is a lot worse in my opinion. I would love her even more than I do now, if she ceased lipping.

[Nikosn17]

Well if she feels the need to lip 3-4 songs I'm fine with it, but half of the concert is too much. + if she's gonna lip them she should make like 2-3 pre-recorded versions so that it's not that obvious when you compare videos. She is very good at lipping so you can't really tell if you hear the version only 1 time. Edited August 3, 2008 at 08:49 PM by Nikosn17

[Bumble]

Celine is a talented singer, she shouldn't rely on fraudulent methods that are used by untalented singers who compensate their mediocrity by choreography and sex display.

If she can't sing those songs anymore, and that singing is still the thing she loves the most, then this has to be stopped. Either drop the songs, or change the music to make them new and singable again. It'll be more rewarding for her and her audience.

 

If a scandal is what she (or her team) needs to get things right, then I don't care. Sometimes, you gotta be slapped in order to understand.

 

Stop the fake, and be what you are and what you deserve, the best singer in the world!

[Lymon]

I agree that they should make some changes in the setlist. I mean it's not that

we won't love Céline as much as always just because she can't hit all the notes she could

hit ten years ago, if that's what they think!

 

Exactly. I'm not going to turn against her if she can't hiti the big TPOL note at the end anymore without some struggle(or not at all), I think her imperfections just make her all the more human, like in the Elvis special when she sang Can't Help Falling In Love. I think(at least from the way I listened to it) that she broke the note at the end involuntarily, but she kept on going and picked it up, and I liked that. She showed that she's human and she's not perfect. I know she may not be able to sing everything 100% live 100% of the time. If it was one song, that wouldn't be a big deal. But if the list Love posted is true, and she's lipping half the setlist, that's very cheap of her. It won't make me stop being a fan, but it would be very cheap and low.

[marckvls]

I agree that they should make some changes in the setlist. I mean it's not that

we won't love Céline as much as always just because she can't hit all the notes she could

hit ten years ago, if that's what they think!

 

Exactly. I'm not going to turn against her if she can't hiti the big TPOL note at the end anymore without some struggle(or not at all), I think her imperfections just make her all the more human, like in the Elvis special when she sang Can't Help Falling In Love. I think(at least from the way I listened to it) that she broke the note at the end involuntarily, but she kept on going and picked it up, and I liked that. She showed that she's human and she's not perfect. I know she may not be able to sing everything 100% live 100% of the time. If it was one song, that wouldn't be a big deal. But if the list Love posted is true, and she's lipping half the setlist, that's very cheap of her. It won't make me stop being a fan, but it would be very cheap and low.

 

So well said!!!

[celine_026]

I didn't stopped myself to count the songs she lipped,

not even for Vegas, but... I knew it was a lot.

 

Now seeing Love's list I just don't know...

 

Is it necessary so many shows?... 1 hour and a half?...

 

Big bands with great vocals, like Keane, do some 1 hour show

and it does not hurt anybody.

 

It is tangible that, with the aging, Celine is strugling to sing her old songs,

but I guess she should be true to what she is now.

Actually it would sound perfect a new album or new songs or arrangements

where she's more soft. It wouldn't hurt anybody.

 

But half of the show being lipped... this is not good, ye.

[artistman2007]

i totally agree that she can sing her new songs with new arrangments that fits her voice now we would love that i mean alot of artists even the new ones do that and its a good thing like rihanna i saw hers sing umbrella every show in a diff way like one time with a guitar ,so celine can make them softer like lara did with her song pqmo with piano only, i hope she does that!

[Love,]

Btw: The video's displayed on the newspaper's website were all removed from Youtube...

They are still there....

It's still there.

And I don't see why it should be removed. No matter what, it's the truth...

 

I always wondered if the dancers could hear her singing, when they were close for some songs, but then when she is lipping and they are close to her if they notice a difference?? Or if they noticed just night after night?

 

Edit - I hope this small encounter will set her back on track and open her eyes a bit, if not, then she and anyone else (managers and such) are crazy.

 

All her dancers know, and I'm sure everyone around her knows as well.

They have a Circle of Trust.

 

Since Celine has to "lip," her band has to "play" their instruments! I feel the most for her drummer, having to "pound" and "smash" and "hit" as lightly and in-sync as possible! :laugh:

 

i totally agree that she can sing her new songs with new arrangments that fits her voice now we would love that i mean alot of artists even the new ones do that and its a good thing like rihanna i saw hers sing umbrella every show in a diff way like one time with a guitar ,so celine can make them softer like lara did with her song pqmo with piano only, i hope she does that!

 

Unfortunately, $100 million to $300 million is not enough for Celine to step out of her "comfort" zone.

Edited August 3, 2008 at 10:08 PM by Love,

[celinefanonline]

RDMH is live! it is different in every concert.. also she did sing it wrong too lol

 

anyway for lip thing... mmm what can i say, i don't mind that much few songs is ok but not like half of the concert

[Bumble]

The band can still play live.

 

The show works on a click sound. Celine and all the musicians wear ear plugs, that give them the click that give them the rythm and begining of the song. Extra instruments, and extra tracks like vocals, choir, backups, are synched on this click sound. So the muician still have to play live, while this main track will be enhanced by several synced effects.

Edited August 3, 2008 at 10:12 PM by Clonazepam

[CelionDion]

Celine should replace All By Myself, The Power of Love and To Love You More with:

 

- Falling into You

- Immortality

- Ten Days

 

These are songs that are easier to sing and 2 of them were hits so she's still got the hit songs that she wants

[marckvls]

The band can still play live.

 

The show works on a click sound. Celine and all the musicians wear ear plugs, that give them the click that give them the rythm and begining of the song. Extra instruments, and extra tracks like vocals, choir, backups, are synched on this click sound. So the muician still have to play live, while this main track will be enhanced by several synced effects.

 

Yes! Thats why The Power of Love sounds different in all those versions: A Paris, ACDS, A L'olympia, CBS Specials..

[celine_026]

Yes clonazepan

 

the band is live, Celine voice is a 'track' to be played

and the band follows it. Don't know actually how it works

but yes, the band is live.

[Alex_Incognito]

I'm certainly not thrilled about this, but EVERYONE here knows that she has lipped at concerts ---- we've seen it since THE COLOUR OF MY LOVE CONCERT.

 

 

Celine sings HARD---she BELTS---she uses more than most singers when she does sing. Using Keane as an example doesn't work because most men don't BELT when they sing. (If they do they're in karaoke bars dressed like ABBA).

 

Can she not lip? Sure---she sure as hell has proved that. Does she? Yes. That's plain and simple. It's up to her team, they know that people know. They don't seem to care.

[nuts2you]

I would love for her make a comment about this, or someone from her camp... where is Thomas when you need him to carifier this matter, BTW we have to wait and see what comes out when she opens on AUG 12 .

[Shaun]

Well this whole saga was always coming and it was only a matter of time before the media picked up on it. Fan made videos aren't to blame, the media aren't to blame, for once Sony isn't to blame. The only person to blame is the person who chooses to lip the songs. Who makes this decision? Is it Rene? Is it the band? Is it Celine? Only they know but whoever is to blame can see the results now.

 

Now, we are all Celine's biggest followers and we'll stick by her whatever happens but just for a minute think about all the casual fans Celine has picked up over the years some of which dont even like her for her music, they like her for her voice. Celine has never been "cool" even in the days of MHWGO, she's never been regarded as sexy but the one thing, the ONLY thing that the media and the general public have been FORCED to respect is that incredible LIVE singing voice. Those who have worked hard to build Celine up are now contributing to her downfall through this scandal and make no mistake about it if this generates bigger waves worldwide than it already is that is exactly what Celine is embroiled in; a scandal.

 

The solution is simple. Make a choice. The tour continues soon. Lipping or no lipping?

Edited August 3, 2008 at 11:33 PM by Shaun

[Jacqui]

Sometimes I think she's more likely to retire than just stop using playback. She doesn't care as much as she used to, and why should she? There are other things she wants to do with her life, which is totally understandable.

Why would she bother to keep performing for the same fans who made a big deal about this? If people weren't being such drama queens, the media probably never would have caught on to it- now it does have the potential to totally ruin her reputation. She doesn't deserve that.

[celine_rox]

ahh $#!T

 

celine needs to get herself together

 

she might as well have not done the tour if she was going to use playback

 

somethimes i feel that celine doesnt even want to sing anymore

 

this disappoints me

[Alex_Incognito]

So should she not have done The Colour of My Love special? Au coeur du stade? Any of her TV specials?

 

It's not the end of the world, and it certainly doesn't tarnish Celine's good name. You can't tell me you didn't enjoy Celine's concerts.