Céline Dion and the Paris 2024 Summer Olympic Games

[jpatdeleon09]

LOL who are making him do this video that made him led to say I’m not Lying. The person is so determined to make him to do this

 

And what’s bad is some people in the comment thought it’s her team that says it was Live. Now, this making things out of hand. This is her comeback. And this event is known for using pre recorded. And someone made him do this video as because the director of the Olympics says it was live.

 

What a great year. Amazing.

 

Edited August 3, 2024 at 02:59 AM by jpatdeleon09

[jpatdeleon09]

I wouldn’t be surprised if his next video about Celine will not be as great as the previous ones. That harassment that he gets from that fan is way over the line.

[kaye2023]

Another very interesting video by Wings, for those who are interested (I am)

 

I'm screaming lol!!! Poor Fil being forced to do a second vid to defend his honor. What is wrong with people attacking him below the belt for presenting a digital analysis lolol

 

For those who won't be watching the second WoP vid, Fil basically doubles down on the digital analysis (to forensic comparison level lol) that what the broadcast showed was pre-recorded by analysing the 3AM REHEARSAL clip that he was sent. He felt he needed to explain further because he was getting tons of messages attacking him and his professionalism. He rightfully stated he didn't give an opinion in the first vid, but merely pointing out the digital indicators that give that conclusion.

 

Meat of the second vid:

Apparently, the rehearsal clip revealed TWO vocals: a playback voice AND her actual live voice.

 

His main points were:

 

- Why would Céline be rehearsing to a playback track if she intended to perform live the following day

- The vibrato of the live voice channel and the playback channel did not match, demonstrating two separate voices can be heard during the rehearsal

- When Fil compared the rehearsal's playback channel, it aligned perfectly with the broadcasted audio, which he says would be an impossibility to even think they weren't the same pre-recorded track. Which means the playback track existed before the rehearsal.

 

He wasn't critical of Céline, complimentary even that she's a fantastic vocalist, but critical of the honesty of the producers and music industry in general, saying be honest with the fans, because the fans will support the artist if they truly embrace them. And admonished his attackers who reacted so awfully out of ridiculous personal bias lol

 

Personally, I'm interested in the issue on production/tech side, nothing to do with Céline or her capabilities. Moving forward, I guess IOC and similar will enforce stricter SOPs for rehearsals, including phones banned lol

[MaiconSC]

I'm screaming lol!!! Poor Fil being forced to do a second vid to defend his honor. What is wrong with people attacking him below the belt for presenting a digital analysis lolol

 

For those who won't be watching the second WoP vid, Fil basically doubles down on the digital analysis (to forensic comparison level lol) that what the broadcast showed was pre-recorded by analysing the 3AM REHEARSAL clip that he was sent. He felt he needed to explain further because he was getting tons of messages attacking him and his professionalism. He rightfully stated he didn't give an opinion in the first vid, but merely pointing out the digital indicators that give that conclusion.

 

Meat of the second vid:

Apparently, the rehearsal clip revealed TWO vocals: a playback voice AND her actual live voice.

 

His main points were:

 

- Why would Céline be rehearsing to a playback track if she intended to perform live the following day

- The vibrato of the live voice channel and the playback channel did not match, demonstrating two separate voices can be heard during the rehearsal

- When Fil compared the rehearsal's playback channel, it aligned perfectly with the broadcasted audio, which he says would be an impossibility to even think they weren't the same pre-recorded track. Which means the playback track existed before the rehearsal.

 

...

 

with that being said, Celine has absolute NO FAULT. blame the audio producers.

 

He wasn't critical of Céline, complimentary even that she's a fantastic vocalist, but critical of the honesty of the producers and music industry in general, saying be honest with the fans, because the fans will support the artist if they truly embrace them. And admonished his attackers who reacted so awfully out of ridiculous personal bias lol

 

Personally, I'm interested in the issue on production/tech side, nothing to do with Céline or her capabilities. Moving forward, I guess IOC and similar will enforce stricter SOPs for rehearsals, including phones banned lol

 

This is a problem with not only the olympics, but with the music industry as a whole... nowadays producers won't let the natural voices on the records anymore, they correct EVERYTHING, they eliminate EVERY LITTLE imperfections of the voices... and not just Celine's, but EVERY SINGLE ARTIST...

It's not that they do autotune with Celine (she doesn't need it, cause this is for flat/sharp notes, and Celine is a high lever singer)... well, another singers may need it, but it's not the case... in Celine's case is more correction for a more stable and linear note all the time (like what Fil showed)...

 

Just like this guy said, and like MANY others profissionals have been saying for a long time now, the industry is killing the natural voices... they're turning everyone into robots...

 

If anyone's interesting in learning more about this, there's an amazing video analyzing and giving examples with songs from Aretha Franklin, Led Zeppelin, etc...

 

...

 

with that being said, Celine has absolute NO FAULT.... blame the audio producers.

Edited August 3, 2024 at 06:09 AM by MaiconSC

[manu23]

I wouldn’t be surprised if his next video about Celine will not be as great as the previous ones. That harassment that he gets from that fan is way over the line.

 

I don’t think he minds the polemic, is giving him views and that’s all he wants. If you have a channel to prove artists are not singing live the least you can expect is fans not being very happy. But I don’t like the way he adds “pitch-corrected” every time he says pre-recorded. Is like he needs to emphasize it needed to be polished on top of not being live.

 

The musical director shouldn’t have said it was live if it wasn’t, and then someone from the team uploads a video of her rehearsing to the pre-recorded track, not very clever.

 

Such an iconic moment and all some people talk is if it was or wasn’t live. Sad.

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

I don’t think he minds the polemic, is giving him views and that’s all he wants. If you have a channel to prove artists are not singing live the least you can expect is fans not being very happy. But I don’t like the way he adds “pitch-corrected” every time he says pre-recorded. Is like he needs to emphasize it needed to be polished on top of not being live.

 

The musical director shouldn’t have said it was live if it wasn’t, and then someone from the team uploads a video of her rehearsing to the pre-recorded track, not very clever.

 

Such an iconic moment and all some people talk is if it was or wasn’t live. Sad.

 

True! I think the one to blame as well here is the director for saying it was Live which isn’t. Anyways, it already happened but I think the fans that kept on messaging him that made him do these video. Should stop. I felt bad as well for him.

[Macaronie]

I'm still baffled this is ongoing, even on YT. we all know Olympics are pre-recorded songs. periodt. Just like Whitney's ever so famous 'Star Spangled Banner'. Who gives a snap, we know they can sing.

 

"A triumphant return, being peed on by the fans."

[comingback]

Everyone knows that the songs on big events are pre-recorded. Why are the people surprised? Sorry, I don't get the drama about it.

[comingback]

. Edited August 3, 2024 at 10:16 AM by comingback

[kaye2023]

I don't think he minds the polemic, is giving him views and that's all he wants. If you have a channel to prove artists are not singing live the least you can expect is fans not being very happy. But I don't like the way he adds "pitch-corrected" every time he says pre-recorded. Is like he needs to emphasize it needed to be polished on top of not being live.

 

The musical director shouldn't have said it was live if it wasn't, and then someone from the team uploads a video of her rehearsing to the pre-recorded track, not very clever.

 

Such an iconic moment and all some people talk is if it was or wasn't live. Sad.

 

Don't be sad lol It's interesting. It doesn't tarnish Céline's performance in any way. I'm still listening to it daily! lol (I'm trying to memorize the lyrics by absorption). Enjoy and celebrate the performance, and delve into the the BTS of the performance we love. It's like watching the "The Making of" of your favorite film (except this version, we're piecing it together ourselves lol)

 

Besides, Fil didn't even touch on the possibility it was live at the venue + playback for the broadcast, so it's still possible no one lied.

[Chantemoi]

Anyone who thinks this is “sad”, “disrespectful”, or “peeing on” Céline’s legacy ESPECIALLY needs to watch Fil’s second video - all the way to the end:

 

He talks about Objectivity versus Subjectivity when analyzing a performance, and truth in art versus deception. He’s not doing this out of spite — rather he’s in search for the truth and authenticity.

 

His criticisms have *always* been about the music industry itself, and never personal attacks on the artist. The fact that Céline fans reacted so poorly just proves how immature they are, as they are unable to face the truth.

 

Yes, we knew it would be playback. No, she did not sing (fully) live on the Eiffel Tower because she displays all the trademarks of miming. No, at the end of the day it doesn’t matter, because it was an historic & iconic moment that touched the world.

 

BUT… it’s insulting for her team or anyone else to think we are stupid enough to believe their lies. What’s the point of lying? To keep tabloids from printing their usual trash? There’s zero shame in lipping at the Olympics because that’s the rule — not the exception.

 

Still I’ve been listening to it on repeat for a week, and I’m able to accept BOTH truths:

A) they butchered the song in post-production and the pitch-corrected the notes detract from the overall performance, and

it’s an amazing & moving performance by a singer I’m obsessed with.

 

I think if more people watched Fil’s video they would understand how this reasoning is possible!

Edited August 3, 2024 at 11:35 AM by Chantemoi

[stevo]

Celine fans sure know how to suck the life and joy out of anything and everything she does.

[incognito]

Celine fans sure know how to suck the life and joy out of anything and everything she does.

 

Some of us moved on from this 6 days ago and enjoyed it for what it was.

[alexceline]

let it go omg

[neocshs]

Guys.... Let's put it in Celine's words..

 

 

ENJOY THE SHOW!

[comingback]

Some people have too much time on their hands. Edited August 3, 2024 at 12:53 PM by comingback

[takeachance]

Some people have too much time on their hands.��

 

Definitely!!!! Can all the Apple people make their own topic and talk there , this is beyond boring at this point , ya are actually gone wrong, the tree people are sick of reading it , ye are / have actually ruined this topic !!

In the kindest possible way can ye all just “s… the hell up “

Jeez …….. talk about running something

I also recommend watching “I am Celine Dion “ without ear plugs or eye patches.

Edited August 3, 2024 at 01:52 PM by takeachance

[jpatdeleon09]

Actually, I’m more concerned with Fil (Is that his name?) because of the harassment of the fan that keeps on messaging and calling him a liar that led him to make the video. I mean, it’s already known for this type of events about the use of pre recorded. Why need to make him feel that way.

 

I think those fans that acted poorly are the ones who kept on messaging him. To prove something like they can’t move on like it’s their ego that wanted to say “Told ya! I’m right Ha!” And this director who made this ripple issue that led to this fights. Ayayay!

[jpatdeleon09]

Anyways, more peeps are doing the reaction video of this performance (the positive ones). I guess it’s still a hype and I’m not complaining Edited August 3, 2024 at 02:32 PM by jpatdeleon09

[Balao]

I'm still baffled this is ongoing, even on YT. we all know Olympics are pre-recorded songs. periodt. Just like Whitney's ever so famous 'Star Spangled Banner'. Who gives a snap, we know they can sing.

 

"A triumphant return, being peed on by the fans."

 

I didn't know. Voilà. For me it's too easy to say "come on, everybody knows. No need to talk about it". I have friends who still think that she was singing live. And also, Victor Le Masne lied about Céline singing live. It's disrespectful.

[Balao]

Definitely!!!! Can all the Apple people make their own topic and talk there , this is beyond boring at this point , ya are actually gone wrong, the tree people are sick of reading it , ye are / have actually ruined this topic !!

In the kindest possible way can ye all just "s… the hell up "

Jeez …….. talk about running something

I also recommend watching "I am Celine Dion " without ear plugs or eye patches.

 

Thank you but no. Discussions about Céline's performance do not belong to another topic. It's not off-topic at all. In fact, it is the very matter of the topic. Why the need to censor people by telling them to write what you don't like in another topic?

Knowing how the performance was made makes me enjoy the performance even more. It is not sucking the joy out of me at all, on the contrary. Everyone has her/his own way of enjoying things and is entitled to express it in her/his own way.

[comingback]

Why didn't TC upload the performance on her YT channel? Lady Gaga did it. And why can't they upload a concert for the fans (Summer Mini-Tours 2016/2017, London Summer 2019, Courage Tour)? Her team sucks...

[Ororo Munroe]

Why didn't TC upload the performance on her YT channel? Lady Gaga did it. And why can't they upload a concert for the fans (Summer Mini-Tours 2016/2017, London Summer 2019, Courage Tour)? Her team sucks...

 

Maybe they are in the process to make an official clip with images taken during the two weeks, maybe the rights are too much extensive, or maybe they don't care and nothing will officially be streamed.

 

I bet for the third option.

Edited August 3, 2024 at 03:02 PM by Ororo Munroe

[CourageProject]

If Lady Gaga can upload it, then it's definitely not the "copyright" problem.

[Ororo Munroe]

If Lady Gaga can upload it, then it's definitely not the "copyright" problem.

 

Is there someone who is in charge of her communication ?

[jpatdeleon09]

This guy is so funny (after olympic performance lol)

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-IfeiUu6IE/?igsh=YXg3ZHdsbzVkdHhn

[rathnakumar]

We, her fans, KNOW she was lip-syncing, we don't need Wings of Pegasus to anyone else to tell us, right? To me this was a non-issue. I was just happy Céline was able to record something beautiful after struggling so hard on a rather simple song like Love Again. This just means she's come so far. To me, that's the real success. EVERY artist has pitches corrected in the studio from time to time. So it's not a big deal.

[Chantemoi]

EVERY artist has pitches corrected in the studio from time to time. So it's not a big deal.

 

It’s a matter of taste. Some people like their steaks cooked well done and smothered in “A1” sauce, others like it seared with simple salt & pepper. I prefer the simpler approach, as it allows the full flavour to come through

 

Céline’s vocals don’t need every note corrected, so doing so is like smothering it with sauce and over-cooking in IMHO.

[RosieBarron]

Celine fans sure know how to suck the life and joy out of anything and everything she does.

 

So true, one week on this is what this topic has come to. Got to feel sorry for her after what she has been through that some people have to analyse and argue about this over and over again. What a joyful moment it was, for fans, non fans and many who thought they didn't really like her!

[scielle]

Beautiful photo: https://www.instagram.com/p/C-OBCsEI_02/?igsh=bmtlbG0wbGttNGg3