"Encore Un Soir" album - Official Topic

[Moleque20]

I do not think we get new songs. There are already 2+1 in the deluxe edition. Maybe some recording sessions or parfume.

[celine4evauk]

Sans attendre sold 100,000 copies in its first week in Canada

 

Thanks.

Well I don't think the sales are bad! A lot has changed in the past 4 years within the music industry, sales etc. And it's only first week sales. It's not bad to me anyway.

[duri]

We all think it will be more because of great record in France but 60000 is not bad at all.

[SuperLove4Celine]

I always knew Céline is underappreciated in Cadada (outside Quebec), at least in this millennium.... BUT OMG, 60k isn't good, at least not for her. I blame her team for posting ALL of the audios on youtube, also Spotify...Céline doesn't need streams, she CAN SELL. At least I hope they realize Céline needs to do a better promo outside Quebec in Canada.

 

As I do not use Spotify, I will not include that portion in my response. I will, however, say your accusation that the audio videos on YouTube & Vevo caused her album sales to be less than before is sorely incorrect. Those videos weren't uploaded until almost an entire week had passed since the album's release. The album didn't sell as good as it could have for multiple reasons:

 

- The "Encore un soir" video was promised to us, but was never (AND STILL HASN'T BEEN) released. Another broken promise by TeamCeline which affected promoting the album in Canada.

 

- Only ballads were included during the tour. While I am elated Celine did the songs she wanted, not including ANY new uptempo material from the album was a big problem.

 

- When the audio videos WERE finally released to YouTube/Vevo, they weren't used effectively. TeamCeline failed to tweet them on her Twitter account. There was no mention of them on her site. I rarely use Facebook, but I am guessing they weren't promoted there either. Audio videos are supposed to be tools used by the artist and the artist's team to help promote their work. In turn, help boost potential sales. Also, when these audio videos were first released, they weren't even available to residents in Canada.

 

- The digital single for "Encore un soir" should have included more than just the one song. It should have included a second song from the upcoming album as a preview of what was to come. This 2-track single on iTunes/Amazon could have sold for only $1.99. Thus, inspiring more people to put in pre-orders of the album.

 

- Packaging a "Deluxe Edition" with nonsense like bracelet-ribbons and a notepad. Most people don't want that kind of stuff. The deluxe edition should have just been the extra songs, a "behind-the-scenes" DVD of the recording of the album and an interview with Celine where she talks about each of the songs on the album. This could have helped make the cost of the deluxe edition be cheaper and inspired more people to buy it.

 

- Stops in Toronto, Ottawa and Vancouver should have been added to the tour. Hitting these cities would have helped bring attention to the new French album, as well as the digital single for "The Show Must Go On."

 

There are many other reasons I could add to the above list, but for now, I will leave it at what I have mentioned. So, in the end, accusing promotional tools like audio videos on YouTube & Vevo as a reason for subpar album sales is just flat out wrong. End of story. If TeamCeline got their heads out of their butts, maybe, just MAYBE things would be different. However, complacency strikes again.

Edited September 5, 2016 at 06:23 PM by SuperLove4Celine

[SuperLove4Celine]

You're very close with this, Mathias

 

 

Licensing issues. She's signed to Columbia and the album was released under it. Sony releases singles / songs / lyric videos (NOT music videos as that is solely under the discretion of the record label and the artist's team) once Columbia okays it to various media, including YouTube. But even to do that, they need to come to terms with the associations/unions/organizations in the respective country. For example, GEMA in Germany vehemently blocks a whole lot of songs/videos from being viewable on YouTube in Germany, same is the case with other such unions in other countries. For each upload, fees need to be paid for EACH AND EVERY upload. It can get tedious to go through it in all countries, so record labels just see the potential markets after a thorough research. I think most youtube audios from the album aren't viewable in Quebec is solely for wanting the people to go and buy the album as it counts as one point while one stream on youtube is calculated as a percentage, so it is more beneficial if people buy the physical album.

 

I'll get back to you on this one, DJ. However, your response is correct, but incorrect at the same time. When I have more time later this week, I'll provide clear cut examples as to why the blocking of YouTube/Vevo material in the U.S. is more than just a contracts issues, and is in fact due to stupidity, lack of communication and confusion on TeamCeline's part.

[CelinesDIVO5]

Oh no, Encore Un Soir sold only 60 175 copies in Canada

 

Isn't this tweet only showing Quebec's numbers?

[melquilisboa]

Isn't this tweet only showing Quebec's numbers?

57 085 in Quebec = 60 175 total in the country

[max24]

Isn't this tweet only showing Quebec's numbers?

Here's the whole article

Numbers for Canada are at the end

http://www.journalde...-encore-en-soir

 

By the way, the article talks about sales only.

But the chart will also include streaming.

Edited September 5, 2016 at 06:44 PM by max24

[Philippe1984]

57 085 in Quebec = 60 175 total in the country

 

She's #1 in Quebec AND Canada for the first week, Britney sold around 1000 copies of Glory in Quebec and 7000 in Canada, so Celine did a great score!

Edited September 5, 2016 at 06:51 PM by Philippe1984

[rhapsodion]

60,175 may not look like a huge number, but when u compare it with the figures of the other albums on the chart. It is still good!

[tomdalbou]

She's #1 in Quebec AND Canada for the first week, Britney sold around 1000 copies of Glory in Quebec and 7000 in Canada, so Celine did a great score!

 

1000 copies? Omg! hahaha

I must admit that i'm not a Britney fan, but Glory is actually really good. It's my gym jam.

[Moleque20]

1000 members is only the Dion family with children, grandchildren, newphews and nieces.

[Davey84]

 

She's #1 in Quebec AND Canada for the first week, Britney sold around 1000 copies of Glory in Quebec and 7000 in Canada, so Celine did a great score!

Whoop whoop she slayed the competition!

[Davey84]

 

She's #1 in Quebec AND Canada for the first week, Britney sold around 1000 copies of Glory in Quebec and 7000 in Canada, so Celine did a great score!

Whoop whoop she slayed the competition!

[Kyle_Jared]

60K In Canada for the of summer is still huge. As said earlier, albums in America open at #1 with this number and it's ten times the population!

 

Sure, SA did 90K but it had a TV Special that drew over a million viewers. She may have sold 200,000 copies of tickets to her concerts in quebec, but not every single person that goes to those shows buys the album. If most that go to the concert are a couple, only one copy between them would be purchased..and not everyone else rushes out and buys the album the same week.

 

She sold about 6 times what a normal opening with number in Canada is. Plus, we have November coming up. She'll be fine. 60,000 is not a number to be ashamed of.

[Javito]

What are Make Love To Me and Love Must Be You? Never heard of them

 

Unreleased songs from ANDHC sessions.

 

Can't believe she (or Team Celine) didn't even spend a tweet to thank French fans for #1. If it happened to another singer...

 

They take a lot of things for granted. That's what happens when you're a huge artist and you are used to it . They think her fans are going to put up forever with everything they do...

[dj4celine]

60k seems disappointing in comparison to Sans Attendre but what needs to be noted is the time of release. That number is huge for this time of the year and her team's decision for a re-release with more promo in the fall is what will get the real holiday sales. The album will keep on selling at about 10k (maybe more) in the coming weeks, which is still great, and hopefully, there will be the second single release by October followed by the TV/In-Store promos until November. If we can get to 150k-200k before the album falls of the chart, I'm sure Sony/her team will consider this a huge success and will set the tone for the preparations for the English album next year.

 

 

Plus qu'ailleurs is a great choice as the first song in my opinion. This is the kind of Celine that I'm familiar with. I like this feeling of familiarity. L'étoile is of course a nice and pleasantly surprising scene change:)

That's what is great about this album - a mix of songs to satisfy different people

 

I'll get back to you on this one, DJ. However, your response is correct, but incorrect at the same time. When I have more time later this week, I'll provide clear cut examples as to why the blocking of YouTube/Vevo material in the U.S. is more than just a contracts issues, and is in fact due to stupidity, lack of communication and confusion on TeamCeline's part.

Sure, why not? Healthy discussions are always great but I hope we don't end up going off-topic and boring the others here

Edited September 5, 2016 at 11:34 PM by dj4celine

[kevincheung410]

China will release the 15 songs edition w/out bracelets, but maybe some notebook or post card.

[Peppercorn1991]

China will release the 15 songs edition w/out bracelets, but maybe some notebook or post card.

 

Always have to be different hope it's a great release

 

Kev x

[anewdayhascome]

Okay... this is getting weirder. My grandma (!) saw Celine walking on a street on Polish biggest news TV channel. So they are REALLY using music video footage to promote the album without releasing it :wtf: :wtf: :wacko: :wacko: :hmm: :hmm:

[Moleque20]

Okay... this is getting weirder. My grandma (!) saw Celine walking on a street on Polish biggest news TV channel. So they are REALLY using music video footage to promote the album without releasing it :wtf: :wtf: :wacko: :wacko: :hmm: :hmm:

 

I would like to use the word that starts with K and ends with ...urwa here, but it is forbidden!

[anewdayhascome]

I would like to use the word that starts with K and ends with ...urwa here, but it is forbidden!

 

It's the same in Polish, so I know what you mean

[CelineDionFreak]

Céline is working on an English version of encore Un Soir.... I don't know how I feel about it. I feel like it'll lose the Magic by being translated, possibly.

https://facebook.com/CelineDionItalia/photos/a.397382263784.161516.376633688784/10153903873808785/?type=3&source=48

[BartFCS]

Céline is working on an English version of encore Un Soir.... I don't know how I feel about it. I feel like it'll lose the Magic by being translated, possibly.

https://facebook.com...ype=3&source=48

It'll loose it's unique french vibe. Be original, there's thousands of talented songwriters and producers. Come on!

[mike_z]

I don't know either how I feel about it. An english version of TU SAURAS, on the contrary, I'm in favor!

[Moleque20]

Oh dear God, WHY?

[tomier]

I don't know either how I feel about it. An english version of TU SAURAS, on the contrary, I'm in favor!

Me too, but then again I have always wanted to see an album of celine's french songs in English (not completely but some). Similar to Falling Into You.

[encoreunsoir]

Céline is working on an English version of encore Un Soir.... I don't know how I feel about it. I feel like it'll lose the Magic by being translated, possibly.

https://facebook.com...ype=3&source=48

 

First feeling saw this is what the... Her English songs always feel far less emotionally devoted than her French songs... I don't even speak French, and I don't think I'll be a fan of the English version...

[Javito]

I have mixed feelings about that English version. The only English version that has been on a par with its original French one is Je t'aime encore.

 

Also, if this is true we already know what will be one of the songs included in the next new English album

[flutefreak]

I guess she's doing this because it is a song that holds a lot of emotion for her. I just hope the meaning isn't lost in translation. I love the French version so much!