New Celine CBS TV Special 2008 - That's Just The Woman In Me - 2-15-2008

January 13, 2008 at 06:52 PM

thank you for the pics

you're very welcome!

Robert

January 13, 2008 at 06:52 PM

For the people that were there: could you give me some more info on the duet with Josh? Was he in the audience and did she call him on stage? Did they make jokes together, or just serious working-stuff? I love these 2 artists together and I hope I will be able to watch them sing a duet one time! They should make a new duet, though!

January 13, 2008 at 06:56 PM

For the people that were there: could you give me some more info on the duet with Josh? Was he in the audience and did she call him on stage? Did they make jokes together, or just serious working-stuff? I love these 2 artists together and I hope I will be able to watch them sing a duet one time! They should make a new duet, though!

Celine talked a little about the Grammy performance of her and Andrea Bocelli and how he couldn't make the rehearsals, so David Foster brought in Josh. She joked a little about it, then introduced him. He came out and they sang the song, then Josh spoke a little about his take on the Grammy rehearsals years back. It was cute, and the really only genuine part of the show. Nothing was forced or lip-synced. It was a nice duet together, much like the old Ronald McDonald World Children's day performance, but you could tell that Josh has grown as a performer and he and Celine were both so cute during their chat.

January 13, 2008 at 07:03 PM

Since everyone is giving lengthy posts on they're opinions about live or lipping, I've have a statement of my own....
RELAX
The end. http://www.smileysets.us/temp/PRINCESS/sleep.gif
You're really acting childish. Those lengtly posts are from people voicing their opinions. If you can't handle others opinions about the CBS Special, than ignore this thread.

Childish? No, childish is making a big deal out of something truely insignificant. There are more important things to make a big deal out of. You know, like people dying and starving children. You'd think with all the commotion that some kind of tragedy has struck the world. And that's MY OPINION.

January 13, 2008 at 07:07 PM

Seriously, you're talking nonsense now. That has nothing to do with this. Perhaps you think they are making a big deal of it, they are just saying that they are disappointed. Nothing big really. They aren't like: OMG YOUZZ ZUCKKK CELINE DION!!

No, I am pretty sure each ot them wish the best for Celine.

January 13, 2008 at 07:09 PM

Seriously, you're talking nonsense now. That has nothing to do with this. Perhaps you think they are making a big deal of it, they are just saying that they are disappointed. Nothing big really. They aren't like: OMG YOUZZ ZUCKKK CELINE DION!!

No, I am pretty sure each ot them wish the best for Celine.

Uh, I remember someone saying if she's lipping on the concerts they're done with her. That sounds like making a big deal to me.

January 13, 2008 at 07:09 PM

For the people that were there: could you give me some more info on the duet with Josh? Was he in the audience and did she call him on stage? Did they make jokes together, or just serious working-stuff? I love these 2 artists together and I hope I will be able to watch them sing a duet one time! They should make a new duet, though!

Celine talked a little about the Grammy performance of her and Andrea Bocelli and how he couldn't make the rehearsals, so David Foster brought in Josh. She joked a little about it, then introduced him. He came out and they sang the song, then Josh spoke a little about his take on the Grammy rehearsals years back. It was cute, and the really only genuine part of the show. Nothing was forced or lip-synced. It was a nice duet together, much like the old Ronald McDonald World Children's day performance, but you could tell that Josh has grown as a performer and he and Celine were both so cute during their chat.

Thanks for the info, can't wait to see it! :in_love:

January 13, 2008 at 07:10 PM

You're mistaking some basic facts - nobody called TCH a comback album apart from Sony promotional team. Céline has been calling the album something that she has actually "enjoyed the most" and it feels so, especially if you consider the fact that she seems focused rather on singing on the album, in studio aka doing what she enjoys and does the best than promoting and singing live. She clearly has a point here and if you observe her behaviour towards her recent albums you surely notice what she values more: music, promotion, family or Sony. She can't have it all and she doesn't want to either.
Didn't you Sebabboa call this her comeback vintage album?
I find it somewhat amazing when you explain something, coz always the next thing, the next thing, the next thing is gonna be the top, that's what she's waiting for. For years it was a new French album, then when that came: the coming French album, then Taking Chances, then the ending of A New Day, then this then that, and now the world tour...
We both now the prognosis aint looking so swell. I admire your positive spirit however - it seems to enflame each time the rest of us are worried and completely go out when we're happy about something and then turn into a negative one.
Like to stand out, do we?

Now, it's a sad sad situation.
Can't see why she desperatly clings to this charade/masquerade...
I guess it's just a vain try to please her fans, sad when you think about it really. Honestly I don't know who should feel most ashamed - her or we.

/fred

LEt's say Sainkho taught me to seek out the balance and the good in the world. What Childish was saying was 100% right and it's absolutely not the end of the world what has happened. We can't control the "Céline enterprise" as she described herself in one of my favorite interviews so let's better enjoy what we have and we will have "Something" - a most beautiful song to cry and sigh to. Very true one and simply outstanding.

Edited January 13, 2008 at 07:15 PM by Céline's Blues

January 13, 2008 at 07:17 PM

Seriously, you're talking nonsense now. That has nothing to do with this. Perhaps you think they are making a big deal of it, they are just saying that they are disappointed. Nothing big really. They aren't like: OMG YOUZZ ZUCKKK CELINE DION!!

No, I am pretty sure each ot them wish the best for Celine.

Uh, I remember someone saying if she's lipping on the concerts they're done with her. That sounds like making a big deal to me.

That's me :xmasblush: but it was only a joke, maybe not funny but it's just dissapointing me to hear she did alot of lipshyng, i didn't mean i would turn to hate her but i would lost my interes of seeing her live if she just lipped.

January 13, 2008 at 07:19 PM

wich version do u think she sang of Something?

the beatles, or the shirley one?

January 13, 2008 at 07:28 PM

i would like to point out that the 1F4T special at the colosseum was majority playback straight from the CD and everyone though it was wonderful..so shut up :Booty:

January 13, 2008 at 07:28 PM

I honestly believe that Celine will sing live during her shows. Of course, there will be song, like The Power of Love that - if she sings them - then they will be lipped....but that's how it's been for years.

I see both sides of her lipping for this special. It has to be enormous pressure to be known for your voice. And she hasn't exactly had time to rest it. So - you want your fans and the general public to hear a really good voice singing the songs.

But it's really, really crappy that she lipped so much of this special. I would settle for mediocre vocals over lipped....

But, on the positive side, I'm excited about the two live songs. It's better than nothing, I suppose.

January 13, 2008 at 07:28 PM

LEt's say Sainkho taught me to seek out the balance and the good in the world. What Childish was saying was 100% right and it's absolutely not the end of the world what has happened. We can't control the "Céline enterprise" as she described herself in one of my favorite interviews so let's better enjoy what we have and we will have "Something" - a most beautiful song to cry and sigh to. Very true one and simply outstanding.

sainkho is a banshee

and you should all watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lanl8ZP1OjY

to remind you why we adore celine !! watch it and weep ur eyes out!

January 13, 2008 at 07:29 PM

wich version do u think she sang of Something?
the beatles, or the shirley one?

She said it was a special arrangement done earlier that day. After listening to The Beatles' version and Shirley's version, it appears to a little in the middle, but more towards the Beatles' version.

January 13, 2008 at 07:41 PM

"Something" was definately a highlight. I also loved seeing "River Deep Mountain High" again even though it wasn't as good as Vegas!

January 13, 2008 at 07:42 PM

The same one for the ATW special - she sang Then You Look At Me and I Want You To give Me Your Money there, too. But they were not broadcasted

Just wanted to say I was at the taping for the ATW special...and she did not sing those songs. She did sing Beauty and the Beast and it was not aired though. I dont remember what that was in reference to but just wanted to let you know....

Second, still love Celine, still a HUGE fan, but I'm just confused. She just got bashed for doing the same thing in the UK in front of celebrities. The guy Shane from that show said something like it took him three hours to get there and she "bloody mimed". She wasn't doing this just in front of her fans, it was in front of her peers who took their time to come see the show. It doesn't make any sense at all even if Sony or CBS told her to do it. She would have been better off doing okay performances (which I know if she sang live they would be nothing but perfect) but to air this will just be embarassing for her. Part me is starting to think that she is slowly pushing away people from thinking she's perfect/amazing singer so she can retire with the least amount of attention. Like instead of doing amazing performances so people wonder why she retired at the top of her career...she'll be doing lipped performances so people are like...oh yeah...well it was just time for that to end. Crazy assumption but its the only thing that makes sense. If she is just sick of performing and thats why she lips, she would've just quit now instead making a fool of herself.

Yes, she lips on most of her TV Specials but now its just looking more obvious I think. And its not just her tv specials its 1/2 her promotional shows too.

Of course we as fans we'll shrug this off eventually but the press is never going to let it go. I don't think they should air this...I'm worried for her.

January 13, 2008 at 07:49 PM

Hi Guys!

I have just finished reading this marathon thread - and oh my god - it is obviously a big subject!!!

I learned Celine lipped years ago - it started with the Power Of Love - and although its 'not right' when you see her 'live' , it still sends major shivers down my spine when i hear it - cos its so powerful and amazing - You saw me on the DVD telling her how i think her stage presence is amazing - and thats why i said it. SHE IS AMAZING.

Now i agree with a lot of the things said on this forum about the subject - but i feel that for a TV special, you kinda need to sing the songs as they will be heard on the CD so people will go out and buy it cos they liked what they heard. If it was live with live instruments then people might go out and buy the CD and say - 'oh it doesnt have as much emotion as the live TV special i saw' You cant win either way. Also of course - she may had not had enought time to do a PROPER sound check etc. I am a singer and know how long it can take and im sure it takes a lot longer on a professional scale.

Us Die hard admirers would love to hear her sing live - we have a privilige to see her many times - others dont and see her only once as Celine isnt a proiority for them. They leave the concert none the wiser - and believe me - there are people out there who think Celine lipping to the CD version of MHWGO is live - i know - i sat next to a couple at the Bafta Taping who said that she sounded so clear and amazing live!!! (i just chuckled to myself - why would i spoil it for them!)

It just worries me that on the AND DVD they have tweaked the lipped performances slightly - some lines sound so electronic - and i ask why is that? to make us think they are new versions? or to just perfect them? who knows - and some of you may have noticed that in the all access feature, there is one clip when she goes into a pre recorded live vocal and something happens which is a bit obvious.....

At the end of the day - I DONT CARE - I LOVE HER AND CANT WAIT TO SEE HER IN CAPE TOWN !!!! YAY!!!

Just my thoughts.

January 13, 2008 at 07:50 PM

This is all just very sad. Now celine is being known for being an expert at lip syching and miming songs rather than being the incredible live singer we have all come to love. Its very sad. It also seems no other artist has done as much lip synching as celine has been doing lately. People in general are going to start asking the question, can celine still sing live? Of course she can and we all know it but the general public might start to wonder if shes lost her voice to vegas if she keeps lipping as much as she has for years to come. Edited January 13, 2008 at 07:52 PM by celinemaniac07

January 13, 2008 at 07:57 PM

Hi Guys!

I have just finished reading this marathon thread - and oh my god - it is obviously a big subject!!!

I learned Celine lipped years ago - it started with the Power Of Love - and although its 'not right' when you see her 'live' , it still sends major shivers down my spine when i hear it - cos its so powerful and amazing - You saw me on the DVD telling her how i think her stage presence is amazing - and thats why i said it. SHE IS AMAZING.

Now i agree with a lot of the things said on this forum about the subject - but i feel that for a TV special, you kinda need to sing the songs as they will be heard on the CD so people will go out and buy it cos they liked what they heard. If it was live with live instruments then people might go out and buy the CD and say - 'oh it doesnt have as much emotion as the live TV special i saw' You cant win either way. Also of course - she may had not had enought time to do a PROPER sound check etc. I am a singer and know how long it can take and im sure it takes a lot longer on a professional scale.

Us Die hard admirers would love to hear her sing live - we have a privilige to see her many times - others dont and see her only once as Celine isnt a proiority for them. They leave the concert none the wiser - and believe me - there are people out there who think Celine lipping to the CD version of MHWGO is live - i know - i sat next to a couple at the Bafta Taping who said that she sounded so clear and amazing live!!! (i just chuckled to myself - why would i spoil it for them!)

It just worries me that on the AND DVD they have tweaked the lipped performances slightly - some lines sound so electronic - and i ask why is that? to make us think they are new versions? or to just perfect them? who knows - and some of you may have noticed that in the all access feature, there is one clip when she goes into a pre recorded live vocal and something happens which is a bit obvious.....

At the end of the day - I DONT CARE - I LOVE HER AND CANT WAIT TO SEE HER IN CAPE TOWN !!!! YAY!!!

Just my thoughts.

You tell em!! You sexy sexy man!!! I agree with a lot of points made here about lipping...but come on, she's Celine, we know she's great, and can totally do it. The tour is gonna be awesome.....Im just as frustrated as a lot of you here because I would love to hear songs from TAKING CHANCES live...but you know what...we will in time..and if you all can't handle it...then you can all scratch Celine's :Booty:

January 13, 2008 at 07:58 PM

Now i agree with a lot of the things said on this forum about the subject - but i feel that for a TV special, you kinda need to sing the songs as they will be heard on the CD so people will go out and buy it cos they liked what they heard. If it was live with live instruments then people might go out and buy the CD and say - 'oh it doesnt have as much emotion as the live TV special i saw' You cant win either way. Also of course - she may had not had enought time to do a PROPER sound check etc. I am a singer and know how long it can take and im sure it takes a lot longer on a professional scale.

If that's the case why introduce new versions of songs (e.g "Eyes On Me) for the special? The version that was lipped for the special isn't on the album.....

January 13, 2008 at 08:02 PM

Not to open a new can of worms, but yes alot of the songs on the AND DVD were enhanced vocally. Regardless of this..she sounds amazing on the DVD...but again back to the special..everyone will love it when they see it on tv. Its a great special regardless of any lipping.

January 13, 2008 at 08:06 PM

Now i agree with a lot of the things said on this forum about the subject - but i feel that for a TV special, you kinda need to sing the songs as they will be heard on the CD so people will go out and buy it cos they liked what they heard. If it was live with live instruments then people might go out and buy the CD and say - 'oh it doesnt have as much emotion as the live TV special i saw' You cant win either way. Also of course - she may had not had enought time to do a PROPER sound check etc. I am a singer and know how long it can take and im sure it takes a lot longer on a professional scale.

If that's the case why introduce new versions of songs (e.g "Eyes On Me) for the special? The version that was lipped for the special isn't on the album.....

Good question Shaun - I dont know - maybe it was just a one off version - somethign new that has not seen before - its already released here in the uk - if it was a remix i'm sure they would have put it on the CD. ?

I have no answers - wish i did :-)

Kev

:thumbsup2:

January 13, 2008 at 08:08 PM

Now i agree with a lot of the things said on this forum about the subject - but i feel that for a TV special, you kinda need to sing the songs as they will be heard on the CD so people will go out and buy it cos they liked what they heard. If it was live with live instruments then people might go out and buy the CD and say - 'oh it doesnt have as much emotion as the live TV special i saw' You cant win either way. Also of course - she may had not had enought time to do a PROPER sound check etc. I am a singer and know how long it can take and im sure it takes a lot longer on a professional scale.

If that's the case why introduce new versions of songs (e.g "Eyes On Me) for the special? The version that was lipped for the special isn't on the album.....

But I don't think it's the CD verison that's released. :hmm:

January 13, 2008 at 08:09 PM

Not to open a new can of worms, but yes alot of the songs on the AND DVD were enhanced vocally.

Im sure it was just the lipped ones - the real live ones sounded fine - she was out of tune (not that i'm nit picking but using as an example! please dont lynch me!) at the start of I'm Alive - and they didnt touch that. I saw the show on taping week and she was perfect.

Im so sad it has finished - im off to vegas on weds - i might set up camp outside the colloseum and do my own concert! I do a good Power Of love - anyone want to join me with some top hats and canes - and any girls with big feathers? - oh and i need some moving stairs.

Kev

Edited January 13, 2008 at 08:11 PM by ImAliveUK

January 13, 2008 at 08:11 PM

Now i agree with a lot of the things said on this forum about the subject - but i feel that for a TV special, you kinda need to sing the songs as they will be heard on the CD so people will go out and buy it cos they liked what they heard. If it was live with live instruments then people might go out and buy the CD and say - 'oh it doesnt have as much emotion as the live TV special i saw' You cant win either way. Also of course - she may had not had enought time to do a PROPER sound check etc. I am a singer and know how long it can take and im sure it takes a lot longer on a professional scale.

If that's the case why introduce new versions of songs (e.g "Eyes On Me) for the special? The version that was lipped for the special isn't on the album.....

But I don't think it's the CD verison that's released.

Do you mean you dont think it was the CD version that was released as a single? If that is what you meant, the album version was in fact the version that was released as the single.

January 13, 2008 at 08:14 PM

Not to open a new can of worms, but yes alot of the songs on the AND DVD were enhanced vocally.
Im sure it was just the lipped ones - the real live ones sounded fine - she was out of tune (not that i'm nit picking but using as an example! please dont lynch me!) at the start of I'm Alive - and they didnt touch that. I saw the show on taping week and she was perfect.

Im so sad it has finished - im off to vegas on weds - i might set up camp outside the colloseum and do my own concert! I do a good Power Of love - anyone want to join me with some top hats and canes - and any girls with big feathers? - oh and i need some moving stairs.

Kev

:mdr: :mdr: :mdr:

January 13, 2008 at 08:19 PM

Im so sad it has finished - im off to vegas on weds - i might set up camp outside the colloseum and do my own concert! I do a good Power Of love - anyone want to join me with some top hats and canes - and any girls with big feathers? - oh and i need some moving stairs.

Ah I want to play the piano in the air!!

January 13, 2008 at 08:21 PM

Not to open a new can of worms, but yes alot of the songs on the AND DVD were enhanced vocally.
Im sure it was just the lipped ones - the real live ones sounded fine - she was out of tune (not that i'm nit picking but using as an example! please dont lynch me!) at the start of I'm Alive - and they didnt touch that. I saw the show on taping week and she was perfect.

Im so sad it has finished - im off to vegas on weds - i might set up camp outside the colloseum and do my own concert! I do a good Power Of love - anyone want to join me with some top hats and canes - and any girls with big feathers? - oh and i need some moving stairs.

Kev

im going back to vegas in 10 days. can i be in the show??

January 13, 2008 at 08:33 PM

Not to open a new can of worms, but yes alot of the songs on the AND DVD were enhanced vocally.
Im sure it was just the lipped ones - the real live ones sounded fine - she was out of tune (not that i'm nit picking but using as an example! please dont lynch me!) at the start of I'm Alive - and they didnt touch that. I saw the show on taping week and she was perfect.

Im so sad it has finished - im off to vegas on weds - i might set up camp outside the colloseum and do my own concert! I do a good Power Of love - anyone want to join me with some top hats and canes - and any girls with big feathers? - oh and i need some moving stairs.

Kev

im going back to vegas in 10 days. can i be in the show??

Yes - you can be the girl in the wedding dress for MHWGO. that ok?

January 13, 2008 at 08:39 PM

I have a friend who was the MUSICAL DIRECTOR for a music based television show which aired in the eighties. He has said that the primary reason for using pre-recorded music/vocals back then was that the sound quality is better... "live vocals" and "live music" does not always sound as good via television...

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