scielle Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:15 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:15 PM But the comparison with bleeding feet is at minima clumsy.Not a comparison at all but an illustration of a character trait. 2 Quote
Mudo Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:18 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:18 PM This “blame Rene” narrative once again veers into “Celine had no agency in any of this” territory. She wasn’t a teenage girl at this point but a strong-willed woman. And pushing through and not complaining is her defining personality trait, always has been (remember how she wouldn’t tell the director of the IACBTMN video her feet were bleeding from running in that gravel?) I don’t think at the time Rene was alive and well either of them thought of this as serious or anything but temporary. And I think it’s pretty clear things took a serious turn for the worse after his death. He was her long time manager by the time she was on TCWT, he knew the quality of shows she was bringing before she became mostly nasal on TCWT so telling me him being her manager and husband, he never thought 'oh there's something wrong here, we should investigate it' is something that one of the 2 should have had and should have been Rene because Celine was letting him be the judge of her performances. Plus, we knew that Celine went into the studio just before she released the DVD for the TCWT to redub some of her extremely nasal performances so she was very much aware of her condition and most likely Rene told her to do the redub because she was not up to par with the other performances. She states that singing nasally was her coping with her early SPS disease signs, if proper care done by Rene and maybe even turning the doctor visit into less than a performance piece ( like the one captured in TCWT behind the scenes video), they could have saved her early on. Part of the blame is on him, because in Celine's eyes his opinion of her performances would actually matter for her. Quote
Ajax Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:19 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:19 PM She was/ is a grown #ss woman. She could’ve said NO to commitments when Rene was her husband. She was HIS boss after all. I think people forget that the artist employs the manager and not the other way around. I think the interview yesterday was evident that it’s actually Celine who wants do this. People always trying to vilify Rene when we don’t have any insight… it’s wrong. It's like the last 10 years never existed and we are still in a world where we tell: You are a grown woman, why didn't you said no ? Honnestly I can't believe I'm still reading this argumentation. You also forget that it was her husband, not just a contracted manager. Whatever, I don't have any answers and I always believed in René. I just miss him in the equation knowing all what we learnt and the fact that he was her husband AND manager. Then I absolutely don't know. Quote
Abodi2002 Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:24 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:24 PM (edited) OMG! The scene from the doc where she says, I'm a an apple tree and people are in line and I give them apples. The best and I shine them. I don't want them to wait in line if I don't have apples for them. that part got to me. Edited June 12, 2024 at 12:25 PM by Abodi2002 Quote
Popular Post Nmj Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:27 PM Popular Post Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:27 PM (edited) Hodas podcast “Making Space” is featuring Celine Dion! Lots of unheard content from the exclusive . 1hr. Edited June 12, 2024 at 12:34 PM by Nmj 8 Quote
ewh12 Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:30 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:30 PM (edited) Céline's episode on Hoda Kotb's podcast "Making Space" is now available https://podcasts.app...i=1000658750349https://open.spotify...Jq5IPGPN80hqz0V Edited June 12, 2024 at 12:34 PM by ewh12 1 Quote
tshlw Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:36 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:36 PM Hmm think much of the Making Space will just be what we heard last night but maybe with out stuff they cut. Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
TiagoFragoso05 Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:38 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:38 PM The full version https://youtu.be/h1pdDqIf_2U?si=9NtqQ-RVjDsftTau Enviado do meu iPhone usando Tapatalk 1 Quote Please subscribe https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbdjLvrbSNwxQoeRsvZ5OWghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0eWCf-j12uY/T-YMP5bDkpI/AAAAAAAACRg/rEnk4uy6aso/s400/Celine+Dion+-+Signature+Commercial+Behind+The+Scenes+(23612)+%5BHD%5D.mp4_snapshot_00.07_%5B2012.06.22_00.43.13%5D.jpg
Nmj Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:40 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:40 PM Hmm think much of the Making Space will just be what we heard last night but maybe with out stuff they cut. Yes it’s about 25 more minutes of material. Quote
tshlw Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:40 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:40 PM Here is bit on Today talking about interview and that she is on Making Spaces. 1 Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
Nmj Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:43 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:43 PM Here is bit on Today talking about interview and that she is on Making Spaces. Hoda said “get your tickets for Vegas ready?!” Quote
tshlw Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:45 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:45 PM (edited) Seems they were investigating what wrong with her but did not know what it was so kept going with TCWT. From what can piece together was just the voice until after Rene left and then it got worse. Not sure if she will ever go into more detail on how much Rene pushed or didn't. She just said I don't blame anyone. So yeah not sure will go into all the detail of choices Rene and her made or anyone from her team. Edited June 12, 2024 at 12:48 PM by tshlw Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
tshlw Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:49 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:49 PM Hoda said “get your tickets for Vegas ready?!” Hard to get tickets without dates lol. 3 Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
Abodi2002 Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:50 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:50 PM I think her symptoms had to of began in the UK leg of TC tour. By London she was adopting the nasal tone. 1 Quote
tshlw Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:52 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:52 PM I think her symptoms had to of began in the UK leg of TC tour. By London she was adopting the nasal tone. In Sydney she was sick not sure if started there or if she was really sick. All we can go by is she said Germany. Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
tshlw Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:54 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:54 PM Sounds like Hoda saw it with other people as talked about audience. Hmm wonder if other journalists. 1 Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
Céline RO Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:55 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:55 PM even may have gone to doctors to uncover the disease early on. They did. Quote The best is yet to come...
Abodi2002 Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:01 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:01 PM In Sydney she was sick not sure if started there or if she was really sick. All we can go by is she said Germany. Her vocals were amazing in Sydney! How do we know she was sick? So wish we had better footage before the UK leg, she was on fire! Quote
Céline RO Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:04 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:04 PM He was her long time manager by the time she was on TCWT, he knew the quality of shows she was bringing before she became mostly nasal on TCWT so telling me him being her manager and husband, he never thought 'oh there's something wrong here, we should investigate it' is something that one of the 2 should have had and should have been Rene because Celine was letting him be the judge of her performances. Plus, we knew that Celine went into the studio just before she released the DVD for the TCWT to redub some of her extremely nasal performances so she was very much aware of her condition and most likely Rene told her to do the redub because she was not up to par with the other performances. She states that singing nasally was her coping with her early SPS disease signs, if proper care done by Rene and maybe even turning the doctor visit into less than a performance piece ( like the one captured in TCWT behind the scenes video), they could have saved her early on. Part of the blame is on him, because in Celine's eyes his opinion of her performances would actually matter for her. 1. Her performances on the TCWT were awesome.2. She recorded the dubbed parts because those particular vocals were playback tracks and it would have been obvious even to casual listeners. Bottom line, her voice actually sounded amazing on the TCWT, even at the worst of times and in spite of how she actually felt inside. Seemingly nothing wrong, on the contrary. 1 Quote The best is yet to come...
tshlw Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:04 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:04 PM Her vocals were amazing in Sydney! How do we know she was sick? So wish we had better footage before the UK leg, she was on fire! In the TCWT movie she had to cancel shows in Australia and then had the dinner for her 40th bday while in there, and Rene saying everyone was glad she was better. 1 Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
PuraVida Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:06 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:06 PM The huge news out of this interview is that her comeback is on! I'm thinking we will see her on stage in some way, shape, or form at least once in 2024. 4 Quote
scielle Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:16 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:16 PM The huge news out of this interview is that her comeback is on! I'm thinking we will see her on stage in some way, shape, or form at least once in 2024. Well I see the tabloids are already running with “Celine Dion Overdose Hell” headlines so their focus is elsewhere. 🙄 Quote
Nmj Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:16 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:16 PM The huge news out of this interview is that her comeback is on! I'm thinking we will see her on stage in some way, shape, or form at least once in 2024. I love the part of the interview when she said and I’m summarizing, “I’m gonna comeback but on my own terms, I’ll probably have to cancel from time to time and that’s okay, I’ll do my best and be smart not strong”. All I’m saying people is when you buy tickets to her future shows, buy trip insurance if that’s the only reason you to see her… because she will not feel guilty doing what she has to do, rightfully so. 7 Quote
Popular Post manu23 Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:34 PM Popular Post Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:34 PM I think we all learnt a lesson here: you never know what's going on behind closed doors. Here we were complaining many times that she was not promoting enough, not recording enough, not sounding as good as she did in the 90s, complaining about the bedroom voice, about nasality, about set lists when in reality she was going through hell and she still gave us so so much. She really is a remarkable person, and, at least me, I feel proud as a fan. 12 Quote
rathnakumar Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:43 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:43 PM I think we all learnt a lesson here: you never know what's going on behind closed doors. Here we were complaining many times that she was not promoting enough, not recording enough, not sounding as good as she did in the 90s, complaining about the bedroom voice, about nasality, about set lists when in reality she was going through hell and she still gave us so so much. She really is a remarkable person, and, at least me, I feel proud as a fan. I couldn't agree with you more. Despite it all, she's been ever-so-generous with all her fans, she still took time to talk to people, sign autographs, she didn't let any of the hardships make her bitter. She's truly a REMARKABLE human being. She deserves all our love eternally. 4 Quote https://www.instagram.com/p/C8RuNzZPAdh/
Popular Post incognito Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:52 PM Popular Post Posted June 12, 2024 at 01:52 PM Tremendous job by Hoda Kotb. There’s a reason she’s the Today Show main anchor…I always liked her on Dateline. This was the best English language interview I’ve seen. Celine seems to be in the right place mentally. I’m excited for everything to come for her. She deserves to be happy doing what she loves. 11 Quote
Ukrfan Posted June 12, 2024 at 02:01 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 02:01 PM He was her long time manager by the time she was on TCWT, he knew the quality of shows she was bringing before she became mostly nasal on TCWT so telling me him being her manager and husband, he never thought 'oh there's something wrong here, we should investigate it' is something that one of the 2 should have had and should have been Rene because Celine was letting him be the judge of her performances. Plus, we knew that Celine went into the studio just before she released the DVD for the TCWT to redub some of her extremely nasal performances so she was very much aware of her condition and most likely Rene told her to do the redub because she was not up to par with the other performances. She states that singing nasally was her coping with her early SPS disease signs, if proper care done by Rene and maybe even turning the doctor visit into less than a performance piece ( like the one captured in TCWT behind the scenes video), they could have saved her early on. Part of the blame is on him, because in Celine's eyes his opinion of her performances would actually matter for her. This is simply incorrect. She dubbed only songs for which playback was used during TCWT (hit medleys, Eyes on Me, My Heart Will Go On etc.). This was to make sure it doesn't sound the same as A New Day as most playbacks were from there. The playback for EOM used during the tour was miles better than the dubbed version we got on Boston DVD. 2 Quote
Nmj Posted June 12, 2024 at 02:12 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 02:12 PM Tremendous job by Hoda Kotb. There’s a reason she’s the Today Show main anchor…I always liked her on Dateline. This was the best English language interview I’ve seen. Celine seems to be in the right place mentally. I’m excited for everything to come for her. She deserves to be happy doing what she loves. Imagine if it were Oprah… it would be have been a lazy attempt that somehow turns into the Oprah show with Celine trying to sing to get a word in. Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted June 12, 2024 at 02:17 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 02:17 PM Have you guys noticed her fingers in the interview? There’s like rashes/wounds? Quote
Nmj Posted June 12, 2024 at 02:21 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 02:21 PM Have you guys noticed her fingers in the interview? There’s like rashes/wounds? No I haven’t. But there might be a reason why Celine hasn’t really shown much skin like she’s done before. It could be side effects from the meds she’s taking and she doesn’t feel comfortable showing it. 2 Quote
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