Céline RO Posted June 12, 2024 at 10:28 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 10:28 AM (edited) I’m going to put this out there. I hate how some people try to paint an evil picture of René. Suggesting that he may have used her for money, groomed her, and other horrible things. Yes, we know he loved show-business, he loved her career which was his passion project, he definitely loved the money it was making them too. But he loved Céline and their sons above all else. And I don’t believe for one second that their best interest wasn’t ALWAYS paramount to him. He would have never knowingly endangered them in any way, regardless of what this meant for their career and money. René was a loving man. Edited June 12, 2024 at 10:29 AM by Céline RO 6 Quote The best is yet to come...
sarit_celine Posted June 12, 2024 at 10:30 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 10:30 AM I'm deeply glad to hear her, but God forbid why they put her this makeup around her eyes and not went for something looking more natural? It makes her look very sick and unhealthy and me wishing her much health and wellness.I have just started to listen to that interview. 1 Quote "Needed in the chaos and confusion, from the plains to City HallNeeded where the proud who walk the wire are set to fall"
scielle Posted June 12, 2024 at 10:34 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 10:34 AM OMG! The scene from the doc where she says, I'm a an apple tree and people are in line and I give them apples. The best and I shine them. I don't want them to wait in line if I don't have apples for them. I know… that really struck me as well. And reminded me of how she said (in one of the books, I think) that she’s scared of being the flower that loses all its petals (in reference to being the youngest and one day losing people she loves.)Oh and P.S. if she can come up with metaphors like this, why is she not writing her lyrics?! 3 Quote
Céline RO Posted June 12, 2024 at 10:47 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 10:47 AM Oh and P.S. if she can come up with metaphors like this, why is she not writing her lyrics?! At this point, I think she would write better songs for herself than what people are sending her these days, in English at least. 3 Quote The best is yet to come...
Nmj Posted June 12, 2024 at 10:58 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 10:58 AM Oh and P.S. if she can come up with metaphors like this, why is she not writing her lyrics?! I think she’s capable of it for sure. Maybe after this fight the next project she will. Quote
tshlw Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:04 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:04 AM (edited) I’m going to put this out there. I hate how some people try to paint an evil picture of René. Suggesting that he may have used her for money, groomed her, and other horrible things. Yes, we know he loved show-business, he loved her career which was his passion project, he definitely loved the money it was making them too. But he loved Céline and their sons above all else. And I don’t believe for one second that their best interest wasn’t ALWAYS paramount to him. He would have never knowingly endangered them in any way, regardless of what this meant for their career and money. René was a loving man. Thank you for saying this. From what I could tell it got worse when he got sick and she could have possibly kept it from him since he was not able to be at the shows. When she talked about the tunnel thing with the voice maybe this was while he was sick so managing it without drugs. And the really bad times were after Rene and Daniel passed. That is when the Valium use started. Edited June 12, 2024 at 11:12 AM by tshlw 2 Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
tshlw Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:05 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:05 AM I think she’s capable of it for sure. Maybe after this fight the next project she will. I wonder if she won't have time or feel have time with all the regiment to control symptoms and everything that getting back on stage entails. 1 Quote 'I am, in life and death, the woman of only one man.' Celine Dion My Story, My Dream
scielle Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:12 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:12 AM I wonder if she won't have time or feel have time with all the regiment to control symptoms and everything that getting back on stage entails.Fair point, Dr Piquet said that while she’s making progress, just managing her condition is “a full time job”. 1 Quote
scielle Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:16 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:16 AM I see all the “day after” press today is running with the “deadly doses of Valium” clickbait headlines today. As if she said nothing else. How predictable. Quote
Critiaslux Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:17 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:17 AM Oh Sony won’t let her go! Really ? She has been their cash cow as someone said (when you think about the 90s figures whaaaa), but what about now? I mean as her catalogue seems mismanaged in comparison to her peers, the cash generated must not be so high, so why not letting her go and maybe having a record company that actually do the work. From Celine side I know the answer thought : she is faithful to the old CBS records company 😉 Quote
scielle Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:22 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:22 AM Really ? She has been their cash cow as someone said (when you think about the 90s figures whaaaa), but what about now? I mean as her catalogue seems mismanaged in comparison to her peers, the cash generated must not be so high, so why not letting her go and maybe having a record company that actually do the work. From Celine side I know the answer thought : she is faithful to the old CBS records company 😉At this point it’s steady cash flow with minimal ongoing investment. And presumably all her albums - certainly the biggest ones - are under life-of-copyright deals. That, plus they can capitalize on things like this interview, the doc (which they produced presumably to drive catalog consumption), sync, etc. Quote
rathnakumar Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:25 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:25 AM Fixed the out of sync audio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JivfnjhvXok Could you share the link to download it, please? Quote https://www.instagram.com/p/C8RuNzZPAdh/
Mudo Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:26 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:26 AM I saw someone say it was incredibly insensitive for Irene to tell Celine that witnessing her having symptoms of her chronic illness was the most traumatic event of Irene's life. They were saying Irene was making Celine to feel like a burden (even if retroactively) after Celine's already so emotionally distraught about her SPS. Celine had an SPS panic attack in front of Irene in real time, so yeah Irene was traumatized because as a mother and a friend she was worried about Celine. I am not sure how people can spin things out of context. 3 Quote
Nmj Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:33 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:33 AM Really ? She has been their cash cow as someone said (when you think about the 90s figures whaaaa), but what about now? I mean as her catalogue seems mismanaged in comparison to her peers, the cash generated must not be so high, so why not letting her go and maybe having a record company that actually do the work. From Celine side I know the answer thought : she is faithful to the old CBS records company 😉 If Celine doesn’t feel unhappy she’s probably like “why rock the boat”… but they are a physical and emotional abuser to the fans. Lol Quote
Nmj Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:35 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:35 AM Celine had an SPS panic attack in front of Irene in real time, so yeah Irene was traumatized because as a mother and a friend she was worried about Celine. I am not sure how people can spin things out of context. Also, she told Celine that though it was scary for her it was nothing for what Celine must’ve felt. Quote
Mudo Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:39 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:39 AM I’m going to put this out there. I hate how some people try to paint an evil picture of René. Suggesting that he may have used her for money, groomed her, and other horrible things. Yes, we know he loved show-business, he loved her career which was his passion project, he definitely loved the money it was making them too. But he loved Céline and their sons above all else. And I don’t believe for one second that their best interest wasn’t ALWAYS paramount to him. He would have never knowingly endangered them in any way, regardless of what this meant for their career and money. René was a loving man. I don't think he was evil but he could have spaced out going from 1 tour to another with minimal to no break in between. Like from when she finished her initial Vegas show then jumped onto the TCWT, she already made bank in the AND show already could have cut her some slack. I think the lack of enough time to process what hit her and the fact that she was singing nasal all throughout TCWT should have been clear signs that they should have stopped. She clearly says in the interview she was singing nasally because of muscle spasms she was experiencing during TCWT. If Rene cared about the quality of the TCWT shows instead of the theatrics and the show must go on tactics, he could have given more time off and even may have gone to doctors to uncover the disease early on. Quote
Nmj Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:40 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:40 AM I don't think he was evil but he could have spaced out going from 1 tour to another with minimal to no break in between. Like from when she finished her initial Vegas show then jumped onto the TCWT, she already made bank in the AND show already could have cut her some slack. I think the lack of enough time to process what hit her and the fact that she was singing nasal all throughout TCWT should have been clear signs that they should have stopped. She clearly says in the interview she was singing nasally because of muscle spasms she was experiencing during TCWT. If Rene cared about the quality of the TCWT shows instead of the theatrics and the show must go on tactics, he could have given more time off and even may have gone to doctors to uncover the disease early on. Bottom line is Celine didn’t have to do it if she didn’t want to. 2 Quote
ScotieG Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:43 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:43 AM And Rene probably thought she sounded great. I mean, she sounds more nasally, but I enjoyed a majority of what we’ve heard of Taking Chances! 1 Quote
scielle Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:51 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:51 AM This “blame Rene” narrative once again veers into “Celine had no agency in any of this” territory. She wasn’t a teenage girl at this point but a strong-willed woman. And pushing through and not complaining is her defining personality trait, always has been (remember how she wouldn’t tell the director of the IACBTMN video her feet were bleeding from running in that gravel?) I don’t think at the time Rene was alive and well either of them thought of this as serious or anything but temporary. And I think it’s pretty clear things took a serious turn for the worse after his death. 6 Quote
Ajax Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:55 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:55 AM Bottom line is Celine didn’t have to do it if she didn’t want to. Hum, are we still there ? Do we need to explain how influence and patriarchy works ? Are we still there where we need to explain why those women said yes or didn't say anything? Personally, I'm not sure of anything. I just miss René in the equation of all what we learnt simply because he was his husband AND manager. So more than directly connected to her intimacy and work. Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:56 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:56 AM Could you share the link to download it, please? https://www.y2mate.com/download-youtube/JivfnjhvXok Quote
Nmj Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:58 AM Posted June 12, 2024 at 11:58 AM Hum, are we still there ? Do we need to explain how influence and patriarchy works ? Are we still there where we need to explain why those women said yes or didn't say anything? Personally, I'm not sure of anything. I just miss René in the equation of all what we learnt simply because he was his husband AND manager. So more than directly connected to her intimacy and work. I don’t understand this post. Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:00 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:00 PM Maybe someone could translate the full interview in Spanish. There’s a lot of people from other countries who also wanted to watch this interview. Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:01 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:01 PM Where is her stepson Patrick Angelil? Why leave? Quote
rathnakumar Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:01 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:01 PM https://www.y2mate.c...ube/JivfnjhvXokThank you sooo much! You're the best! 1 Quote https://www.instagram.com/p/C8RuNzZPAdh/
PuraVida Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:02 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:02 PM The interview was great. Celine answered a lot of questions, but still left enough excitement and mystery for the documentary. She showed off her trademark sense of humour, starting singing at various points in the interview like she always loves to do, and also got really raw and emotional. I especially loved the latter moments, esp. when she sang "Tomorrow" ... her voice sounded so beautiful. It's pretty uncanny how seeing her get so emotional makes me so emotional too -- I think because I've always known she is so strong and puts up a brave face for her fans like she mentioned. So when the walls come down, it really grabs you. I would have never guessed about the Valium. That was a bit shocking. It makes sense that she needed something if the condition had already been onsetting for years... I hope the media doesn't fixate on details like that. 2 Quote
Ajax Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:05 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:05 PM This "blame Rene" narrative once again veers into "Celine had no agency in any of this" territory. She wasn't a teenage girl at this point but a strong-willed woman. And pushing through and not complaining is her defining personality trait, always has been (remember how she wouldn't tell the director of the IACBTMN video her feet were bleeding from running in that gravel?)I don't think at the time Rene was alive and well either of them thought of this as serious or anything but temporary. And I think it's pretty clear things took a serious turn for the worse after his death. I like reading you a lot. But the comparison with bleeding feet is at minima clumsy.Then, "I don't think at the time Rene was alive and well either of them thought of this as serious" I feel that we learn totally the opposite in this interview. Yes it got really debilitating after Rene's death, but what we learn is that it has been years of suffering, voice deterioration and way to compensate, lying, doctors appointment... At this time, just intellectually, missing Rene in this equation is just something we need to address. Without having any answers or implying anything. This is touchy yes but that necessarily something compelling. Quote
Ajax Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:07 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:07 PM I don’t understand this post. The: she could have said no. I can't even believe I'm still reading this. Quote
Nmj Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:12 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:12 PM The: she could have said no. I can't even believe I'm still reading this. She was/ is a grown #ss woman. She could’ve said NO to commitments when Rene was her husband. She was HIS boss after all. I think people forget that the artist employs the manager and not the other way around. I think the interview yesterday was evident that it’s actually Celine who wants do this. People always trying to vilify Rene when we don’t have any insight… it’s wrong. 4 Quote
PuraVida Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:15 PM Posted June 12, 2024 at 12:15 PM (edited) Again about the Valium, it made me think of Whitney and Michael. And we all know how strongly Celine felt about the situations that befell them. I didn't get the sense that Celine was taking super dangerous doses all at once, but like a cumulative amount over the course of a day or two that could've ended really badly. But I'll have to go back and re-watch the interview to see the wording. Evidently the 90mg dose bit was only at the later stages of her using the pills (maybe only for a matter of months?), but I'm sure certain media/headlines will draw up the scariest pictures imaginable without the full nuance or context. Edited June 12, 2024 at 12:16 PM by PuraVida 1 Quote
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