New Las Vegas residency show!

[Balao]

As long as the theatre is comfortable (including comfy seats!!) with amazing sound and technology, I wouldn't have a problem just going there for a Celine show and then staying at a different hotel.

 

As long as you invite me, I don't see where the problem is.

[idroveallnight]

Not only a matter of age, she lost motivation because of the Vegas monster adventure. Beyond that, bad song choices for singles, lack of courage and vision on recent albums and lack of vision in shows and the list is very long.

 

Here a lot of people have reported serious side effects as a result of the "vaccine", hopefully this is not the case for Celine because the words "unforeseen" keep chasing my mind.

 

I don't think she's the only one to blame. It's the lack of vision from the people around her. I remember sitting in the Courage World Tour and thinking how amazing it was that they saved BYLM for the end of the setlist. It's dang shame that the only creativity we get is them breaking up that dreaded hits medley and allowing her to sing her full songs. But there's also the saying that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. She has been able to do the same thing for decades and still sell out arenas. When you're doing that many shows and are a perfectionist like Celine is, the redundancy takes away a lot of the stress and pressure.

 

Of course it would be great to see her constantly reinvent herself like Madonna and Mariah, but she has tried to do that with all the "edgy" music and people still prefer classic Celine. I think we as the fans have a role to play, too. We are not as strong as the lambily, beyhive, or swifties. There's so much quarrel and division on this forum rather than focusing on the main goal to support Celine.

[browseceline]

Why are you always so negative?

 

I think he might sound negative but this is just how it really is

 

 

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[PuraVida]

I don't think she's the only one to blame. It's the lack of vision from the people around her. I remember sitting in the Courage World Tour and thinking how amazing it was that they saved BYLM for the end of the setlist. It's dang shame that the only creativity we get is them breaking up that dreaded hits medley and allowing her to sing her full songs. But there's also the saying that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. She has been able to do the same thing for decades and still sell out arenas. When you're doing that many shows and are a perfectionist like Celine is, the redundancy takes away a lot of the stress and pressure.

 

Of course it would be great to see her constantly reinvent herself like Madonna and Mariah, but she has tried to do that with all the "edgy" music and people still prefer classic Celine. I think we as the fans have a role to play, too. We are not as strong as the lambily, beyhive, or swifties. There's so much quarrel and division on this forum rather than focusing on the main goal to support Celine.

 

It seems roughly 2/3 of hardcore Celine fans, according to this Twitter poll, are not happy with how her career has been handled over the last decade and a half. (Don't shoot the messenger.)

Edited December 11, 2021 at 07:30 PM by PuraVida

[SuperLove4Celine]

It seems roughly 2/3 of hardcore Celine fans, according to this Twitter poll, are not happy with how her career has been handled over the last decade and a half. (Don't shoot the messenger.)

 

I'm not trying to be "that guy", but 73 votes is hardly enough data to go off of.

[garyhollander]

 

I'm not trying to be "that guy", but 73 votes is hardly enough data to go off of.

Indeed not enough thats just 75 superfans bit they dont make the mayority

 

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[PuraVida]

I'm not trying to be "that guy", but 73 votes is hardly enough data to go off of.

 

Larger sample sizes are always better, certainly. Stastically, probably 300+ (at the least) is a good sample size, but that's the best we have seen up to now. After all, the number of hardcore Celine fans readily available online isn't super large. This forum has like half of that active of on a daily basis. From my anecdotal experience, I would say those poll results track for the hardcore fan sentiment.

 

 

I am sure the casual fans are happier because they could care less on way. And in my opinion, superfans are the ones whose opinions matter most.

 

But we can wait to see other polls.

Edited December 11, 2021 at 11:15 PM by PuraVida

[mirage]

Big time!

And the team in control of all that.

 

She is sad she didn't perform D'elles as much as she wanted. She wants to do a all cover show, she wants to do a b-side rare songs show, she wants to do a acoustic show.

 

All things she said, but still didn't do.

 

I think that Celines mega deals and over the top performance schedule killed her passion and creativity

[rfkavanagh]

Of course it would be great to see her constantly reinvent herself like Madonna and Mariah, but she has tried to do that with all the "edgy" music and people still prefer classic Celine. I think we as the fans have a role to play, too. We are not as strong as the lambily, beyhive, or swifties. There's so much quarrel and division on this forum rather than focusing on the main goal to support Celine.

 

The difference is that those kinds of artists don't give people a choice but to progress along with their new material and ventures (ok, I'm not a big Mariah fan and she has very little but Christmas these days, but Madonna's still moving forward!).

 

Those kinds of artists force their fanbase and general public to come along with them as they explore new directions and don't default back to old glories if it doesn't work, and in so doing, they continue to evolve and build their brand and body of work as a vibrant and contemporary artist. They understand that it may lose them some of their more casual fans along the way, but they're ok with that because they're more interested in continuing to evolve and push themselves into more interesting artistic directions to keep themselves interested.

 

Unfortunately, Céline is just not that kind of artist. She tentatively dips her toes into slightly more interesting and different (for her) kinds of music, but then immediately defaults back to the time-worn standards of her '90s repertoire rather than risk a fall in support or revenue, and in so doing, she cements herself as a heritage artist trading on past glories.

 

It's unfortunate - Courage was a great album and a big step in Céline's evolution, and yet she's done pretty much nothing to ensure it gains any traction. She'd rather have a full audience of casual fans who just want to hear MHWGO, IACBTMN, and BYLM (etc.) for the umpteenth time, and throw in the new title track just so she can pretend the tour is tied to the album. And even singing that song she's trading far more on the personal story of Rene's death and her "survivor" status than anything to do with her musical evolution and new material.

 

*That* is why Céline doesn't have as many dedicated, passionate, super-fans. It's very difficult to work up that much enthusiasm for an artist that can't even be enthusiastic about her own latest material.

 

And BTW, I'm not suggesting Céline has to do any of that. She can do whatever she wants and if she's happy enough with her career and reputation exactly as they are, good for her. My point is that she's not going to change. She's chosen her path and seems unwilling and uninterested to ever veer very far off it.

[idroveallnight]

The difference is that those kinds of artists don't give people a choice but to progress along with their new material and ventures (ok, I'm not a big Mariah fan and she has very little but Christmas these days, but Madonna's still moving forward!).

 

Those kinds of artists force their fanbase and general public to come along with them as they explore new directions and don't default back to old glories if it doesn't work, and in so doing, they continue to evolve and build their brand and body of work as a vibrant and contemporary artist. They understand that it may lose them some of their more casual fans along the way, but they're ok with that because they're more interested in continuing to evolve and push themselves into more interesting artistic directions to keep themselves interested.

 

Unfortunately, Céline is just not that kind of artist. She tentatively dips her toes into slightly more interesting and different (for her) kinds of music, but then immediately defaults back to the time-worn standards of her '90s repertoire rather than risk a fall in support or revenue, and in so doing, she cements herself as a heritage artist trading on past glories.

 

It's unfortunate - Courage was a great album and a big step in Céline's evolution, and yet she's done pretty much nothing to ensure it gains any traction. She'd rather have a full audience of casual fans who just want to hear MHWGO, IACBTMN, and BYLM (etc.) for the umpteenth time, and throw in the new title track just so she can pretend the tour is tied to the album. And even singing that song she's trading far more on the personal story of Rene's death and her "survivor" status than anything to do with her musical evolution and new material.

 

*That* is why Céline doesn't have as many dedicated, passionate, super-fans. It's very difficult to work up that much enthusiasm for an artist that can't even be enthusiastic about her own latest material.

 

And BTW, I'm not suggesting Céline has to do any of that. She can do whatever she wants and if she's happy enough with her career and reputation exactly as they are, good for her. My point is that she's not going to change. She's chosen her path and seems unwilling and uninterested to ever veer very far off it.

 

Couldn't agree more. This is the post of the year in my opinion. We got some new fashion--which everyone embraced--and then she parted ways with Law. We got a new album--which was amazing--but they did nothing to promote it. We got a new tour--which was so well attended--but they ended up cutting the song with most potential (Lying Down) from it. It's like the Dion Corporation's blueprint for success is to sabotage anything that starts moving in the right direction. How is it that Whitney Houston has been gone now for almost 10 years but I still hear her music and see her on tv more than Celine?

 

I sometimes think the "I have nothing to prove" mentality is a front for her not getting enough support from Sony, not producing any Grammy-nominated or chart-topping music in 20 years, not getting enough streams or airtime, and maybe feeling that she is not that relevant in pop culture anymore. Rest-assured, if she were willing or interested, there is so much she could do. She could switch record labels, hire a team of Gen Z'ers that know how to embrace social media, do a residency somewhere else in the world where she has more fan power like Paris, do a duet with Adele like Elton did with Dua, rebuttal Mariah for the crap she said in her memoir... there are many possibilities if she had a team that could brainstorm with her.

 

I am also not suggesting she do any of this, but I think we can all agree that it brings us a lot of joy when we see our favorite artist succeeding, when we hear her brand new music being played everywhere, and when we see her acknowledged for her hard work. But at the end of the day, she should want it more for herself than we should want it for her.

[CelinesDIVO5]

The gloom and doom, with the pronounced death of Celine’s career by people who have no idea what is ACTUALLY going on, is a lot of fun to read.

[browseceline]

 

The difference is that those kinds of artists don't give people a choice but to progress along with their new material and ventures (ok, I'm not a big Mariah fan and she has very little but Christmas these days, but Madonna's still moving forward!).

 

Those kinds of artists force their fanbase and general public to come along with them as they explore new directions and don't default back to old glories if it doesn't work, and in so doing, they continue to evolve and build their brand and body of work as a vibrant and contemporary artist. They understand that it may lose them some of their more casual fans along the way, but they're ok with that because they're more interested in continuing to evolve and push themselves into more interesting artistic directions to keep themselves interested.

 

Unfortunately, Céline is just not that kind of artist. She tentatively dips her toes into slightly more interesting and different (for her) kinds of music, but then immediately defaults back to the time-worn standards of her '90s repertoire rather than risk a fall in support or revenue, and in so doing, she cements herself as a heritage artist trading on past glories.

 

It's unfortunate - Courage was a great album and a big step in Céline's evolution, and yet she's done pretty much nothing to ensure it gains any traction. She'd rather have a full audience of casual fans who just want to hear MHWGO, IACBTMN, and BYLM (etc.) for the umpteenth time, and throw in the new title track just so she can pretend the tour is tied to the album. And even singing that song she's trading far more on the personal story of Rene's death and her "survivor" status than anything to do with her musical evolution and new material.

 

*That* is why Céline doesn't have as many dedicated, passionate, super-fans. It's very difficult to work up that much enthusiasm for an artist that can't even be enthusiastic about her own latest material.

 

And BTW, I'm not suggesting Céline has to do any of that. She can do whatever she wants and if she's happy enough with her career and reputation exactly as they are, good for her. My point is that she's not going to change. She's chosen her path and seems unwilling and uninterested to ever veer very far off it.

 

I ‘d say, send this straight to her so she can read it! Post of the century that says it all!

 

 

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[PuraVida]

The gloom and doom, with the pronounced death of Celine's career by people who have no idea what is ACTUALLY going on, is a lot of fun to read.

 

I was shocked to read people don't think she's the Queen of Vegas. Really?!

 

She remains the Queen. She gets called "Queen" more and more with each passing year.

[Celinelife]

Her retiring doesn't mean she isn't a Queen. Michael is dead, do we not call him the King Of Pop still?

 

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

I was shocked to read people don't think she's the Queen of Vegas. Really?!

 

She remains the Queen. She gets called "Queen" more and more with each passing year.

 

Those peeps are mostly fans of Britney or Mariah thinking they’re the Queen of Vegas and not Céline

Edited December 12, 2021 at 12:48 PM by jpatdeleon09

[couldawouldashoulda]

Her retiring doesn't mean she isn't a Queen. Michael is dead, do we not call him the King Of Pop still?

 

No. No, we do not. We call him a child molester.

[jpatdeleon09]

“Heal the world.. make it a better place.. for you and for me and the entire human race. There are people dying if you care enough for the living make a better place for you and for me”.

 

Weird that when I was little i liked Michael Jackson a lot! in fact I have some home concert videos of him. Now that his name was mentioned. I think I’ll watch again his concerts while waiting for Céline’s return.

 

Btw, i just finished watching Au Coeur du stade. And I still wished that they didn’t removed “Tell Him”.

Edited December 12, 2021 at 04:56 PM by jpatdeleon09

[comingback]

 

 

I was shocked to read people don't think she's the Queen of Vegas. Really?!

 

She remains the Queen. She gets called "Queen" more and more with each passing year.

 

Of course she is still the Queen. But her Team and Sony suck.😡

 

Btw What Tour over the last 40 years was her best ??? For me it's the FIY Tour with the white outfit. I wish Sony would have released a DVD from the London show.

Edited December 12, 2021 at 05:50 PM by comingback

[smw]

 

Queen of Vegas!

[couldawouldashoulda]

Such an unnecessary and disgusting post on a forum about Celine's Vegas show. You're entitled to your own opinions, but that was over the top. I joined this forum when I was 13 years old.

 

 

I was sexually assaulted when I was 10 years old. I have no patience for anyone discussing what a great artist that man is. #sorrynotsorry

[couldawouldashoulda]

I'm so sorry that you had to experience that and all the trauma that was associated. My heart breaks for you, genuinely. I still stand behind my above point.

 

 

Thank you. And it sounds a little bit like victim-blaming to me. Rather than attacking me, the people who are insensitive enough to bring up that scumbag's name should be shamed and told that we don't talk about him publicly. My pointing out what he's done isn't the problem. Touting him, lifting him up, bragging that you're going to watch his concerts with joy...that's the real problem.

 

At least Celine has the decency to never bring up the artist with whom she unfortunately sang a song with on These Are Special Times who did similar things. #facts

Edited December 13, 2021 at 12:51 AM by couldawouldashoulda

[Celinelife]

 

 

 

Thank you. And it sounds a little bit like victim-blaming to me. Rather than attacking me, the people who are insensitive enough to bring up that scumbag's name should be shamed and told that we don't talk about him publicly. My pointing out what he's done isn't the problem. Touting him, lifting him up, bragging that you're going to watch his concerts with joy...that's the real problem.

 

Do we know the factual story behind that thing you are accusing Jackson of? Or was it another "make money" news and rumours.

[PuraVida]

Of course she is still the Queen. But her Team and Sony suck.

 

Btw What Tour over the last 40 years was her best ??? For me it's the FIY Tour with the white outfit. I wish Sony would have released a DVD from the London show.

 

In spite of her crappy team, she is still the Queen. Queen of Vegas most of all. I would never deny that.

 

Yes, they need to release SO many things.

[Dancing_Queen]

 

At least Celine has the decency to never bring up the artist with whom she unfortunately sang a song with on These Are Special Times who did similar things. #facts

 

She did bring it up around the Courage Tour promo launch. Said it was the one thing she regretted.

 

Don't think she feels the same way about MJ though.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

 

Thank you. And it sounds a little bit like victim-blaming to me. Rather than attacking me, the people who are insensitive enough to bring up that scumbag's name should be shamed and told that we don't talk about him publicly. My pointing out what he's done isn't the problem. Touting him, lifting him up, bragging that you're going to watch his concerts with joy...that's the real problem.

 

At least Celine has the decency to never bring up the artist with whom she unfortunately sang a song with on These Are Special Times who did similar things. #facts

 

Celine covered his songs in Vegas and on her 2017 mini tour…posthumously.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

She did bring it up around the Courage Tour promo launch. Said it was the one thing she regretted.

 

Don't think she feels the same way about MJ though.

 

What interview was this???

[Dancing_Queen]

What interview was this???

 

One of those many short interviews she did wearing the dark green blazer.

It's no longer on YouTube, but I have it on my homeserver. I'll try to post when I can access it.

[joaofilho]

The difference is that those kinds of artists don't give people a choice but to progress along with their new material and ventures (ok, I'm not a big Mariah fan and she has very little but Christmas these days, but Madonna's still moving forward!).

 

Those kinds of artists force their fanbase and general public to come along with them as they explore new directions and don't default back to old glories if it doesn't work, and in so doing, they continue to evolve and build their brand and body of work as a vibrant and contemporary artist. They understand that it may lose them some of their more casual fans along the way, but they're ok with that because they're more interested in continuing to evolve and push themselves into more interesting artistic directions to keep themselves interested.

 

Unfortunately, Céline is just not that kind of artist. She tentatively dips her toes into slightly more interesting and different (for her) kinds of music, but then immediately defaults back to the time-worn standards of her '90s repertoire rather than risk a fall in support or revenue, and in so doing, she cements herself as a heritage artist trading on past glories.

 

It's unfortunate - Courage was a great album and a big step in Céline's evolution, and yet she's done pretty much nothing to ensure it gains any traction. She'd rather have a full audience of casual fans who just want to hear MHWGO, IACBTMN, and BYLM (etc.) for the umpteenth time, and throw in the new title track just so she can pretend the tour is tied to the album. And even singing that song she's trading far more on the personal story of Rene's death and her "survivor" status than anything to do with her musical evolution and new material.

 

*That* is why Céline doesn't have as many dedicated, passionate, super-fans. It's very difficult to work up that much enthusiasm for an artist that can't even be enthusiastic about her own latest material.

 

And BTW, I'm not suggesting Céline has to do any of that. She can do whatever she wants and if she's happy enough with her career and reputation exactly as they are, good for her. My point is that she's not going to change. She's chosen her path and seems unwilling and uninterested to ever veer very far off it.

You said everything, unfortunately this is the reality.

I still think she needs to have a manager to tell her what to do, put her on TV shows, encourage her to show more than she can.

Aldo was doing this, do you remember how much Celine appeared on American TV and around the world in 2016 and she wasn't promoting anything, in Vegas she sang her classics, Immortality, the Prince medley that everyone loved, I remember in an interview he said they were looking at the top Billboard songs to bring something to Celine, unfortunately it didn't happen, we still don't know the real reason for his resignation, but he did a good job, that's what she needs, none of that will anymore to happen.

[joaofilho]

One more young artist wanting a duet with Celine, how many times will she refuse a collaboration, I hope she does.

 

https://mradio.fr/news/musique/46189/gims-celine-dion-ne-m-a-pas-dit-non

[sarit_celine]

I don't think she's the only one to blame. It's the lack of vision from the people around her. I remember sitting in the Courage World Tour and thinking how amazing it was that they saved BYLM for the end of the setlist. It's dang shame that the only creativity we get is them breaking up that dreaded hits medley and allowing her to sing her full songs. But there's also the saying that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. She has been able to do the same thing for decades and still sell out arenas. When you're doing that many shows and are a perfectionist like Celine is, the redundancy takes away a lot of the stress and pressure.

 

Of course it would be great to see her constantly reinvent herself like Madonna and Mariah, but she has tried to do that with all the "edgy" music and people still prefer classic Celine. I think we as the fans have a role to play, too. We are not as strong as the lambily, beyhive, or swifties. There's so much quarrel and division on this forum rather than focusing on the main goal to support Celine.

 

She has no management around her that's clear but we already saw what she is really capable of doing when she has huge passion for something, for fashion for example. She went all edgy and it was amazing to see it. I can't understand till this day why she bothered to record a new album and then just to let it die. I won't never understand why during the first year of the pandemic they didn't try to do more with the album Courage, and when speaking about releasing bad singles, "Soul" is one of them, they could use some gems from Courage. The people around her seems clueless. It can not go on like this when it comes to the greatest singer history has ever known.