New Las Vegas residency show!

[scielle]

 

To me, they are not entirely confident and it is still in the mode of "wait and see" or "as the situation progresses".

 

If I were to bet, I would say we won't get any Christmas message from Celine. I hope I'm wrong.

 

Yes, I’m with you. None of that sounds particularly reassuring.

 

[jpatdeleon09]

As has been confirmed numerous times over the past few years and discussed here ad nauseam. We've known this since Feb 2018. I don't understand why people are still not getting it.

 

Well now I know

[jpatdeleon09]

My point was---in every fandom there is the same nagging split. People who say their opinion vs others who say "she doesn't HAVE to do anything, you know?"

 

Which we won't relitigate here.

 

I know that. I just want to say it lol

[Celinelife]

Mariah fans have the same "issues"

Is this a Mariah Carey forum? Looks amazing.

 

Ours look like a wallpaper of a 90s computer.

[PuraVida]

Is this a Mariah Carey forum? Looks amazing.

 

Ours look like a wallpaper of a 90s computer.

 

That was via Facebook.

[browseceline]

 

 

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[Celinelife]

 

 

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This is amazing. If Celine did this lazer lighting, it would be her first.

[browseceline]

This is amazing. If Celine did this lazer lighting, it would be her first.

 

I don’t know this singer but what a lackbuster song , sung terribly in a fantastic show. It is almost as if all the acrobatics, lasers and water try to hide that the song itself is really meh

 

 

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[browseceline]

Here another one…ouch. What I do also hear is that the microphone is way louder than the background music. It does show though that Celine could do something great with this stage as well. I hope when she does come back, it is not a boring setup like her last Vegas show. Use the full stage, dancers, fire and rain, great backdrops etc

 

 

 

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Edited December 4, 2021 at 09:59 AM by browseceline

[scielle]

Much as I’m happy for Adele - it’s good to see her type of music do so well, when so much of what is on current charts is such a snooze fest - I look at it all with a certain wistfulness.

She has seemingly displaced Céline everywhere - at Sony, at Caesars, on charts and in pop culture vernacular. As we’ve discussed previously, so much of what she/ Sony are doing now around this latest album is right out of the Céline playbook. It’s disappointing to see Céline’s recent work not having the same kind of impact, despite it being some of her best (in English, at least).

 

I hope when she does come back, Sony / RW / AEG give it a proper, comeback-worthy promotional push.

 

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“For years, it was where careers go to die – you’re near the end when you go to Vegas,” […] “But that has definitely shifted in the 21st century. Céline Dion was a gamechanging moment when she came in, in 2003. […]

 

The other draw, of course, is the money. The sums can be enormous: Céline Dion’s pair of residencies between 2003-2007 and 2011-2019 generated $681m (£514m) in ticket sales, and under the terms of her current deal which began in 2017, she will earn $272m from concerts in Vegas until 2026.”

 

 

[Nmj]

Much as I’m happy for Adele - it’s good to see her type of music do so well, when so much of what is on current charts is such a snooze fest - I look at it all with a certain wistfulness.

She has seemingly displaced Céline everywhere - at Sony, at Caesars, on charts and in pop culture vernacular. As we’ve discussed previously, so much of what she/ Sony are doing now around this latest album is right out of the Céline playbook. It’s disappointing to see Céline’s recent work not having the same kind of impact, despite it being some of her best (in English, at least).

 

I hope when she does come back, Sony / RW / AEG give it a proper, comeback-worthy promotional push.

 

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“For years, it was where careers go to die – you’re near the end when you go to Vegas,” […] “But that has definitely shifted in the 21st century. Céline Dion was a gamechanging moment when she came in, in 2003. […]

 

The other draw, of course, is the money. The sums can be enormous: Céline Dion’s pair of residencies between 2003-2007 and 2011-2019 generated $681m (£514m) in ticket sales, and under the terms of her current deal which began in 2017, she will earn $272m from concerts in Vegas until 2026.”

 

It is very weird how they have approached Adele with this new era. I agree with you, it’s like she’s looking at a highlighted Celine Dion Pamphlet. The CBS special, the Vegas residency, etc.

 

The irony in all of this is, Adele is going by the Celine Dion playbook and it’s proving successful so far, and yet Celine tries to imitate Adele in a lot of ways, and it’s NOT successful. Maybe that proves Celine should stick to being Celine going forward, leave the “bedroom” voice gimmicks alone. All of this and the ageism of the music industry of course a huge reason for this.

[scielle]

Pop music has always been a young person’s game, and always will be, so I don’t expect any new Céline material to make the same kind of waves it did 20 years ago. But there’s still a lot of white space between that, and the way Courage was handled. Or mishandled.

[Nmj]

Pop music has always been a young person’s game, and always will be, so I don’t expect any new Céline material to make the same kind of waves it did 20 years ago. But there’s still a lot of white space between that, and the way Courage was handled. Or mishandled.

 

Exactly. I think Sony music and Adele know that she’s at the point in her career that Celine was in around 2003ish. She just had a wildly successful album after a major comeback (similar to Celine) but she most probably has peeked, in terms of musical releases and now she will start focusing on the money makers, like touring and Vegas residences.

Edited December 4, 2021 at 05:48 PM by Nmj

[PuraVida]

Exactly. I think Sony music and Adele know that she's at the point in her career that Celine was in around 2003ish. She just had a wildly successful album after a major comeback (similar to Celine) but she most probably has peeked, in terms of musical releases and now she will start focusing on the money makers, like touring and Vegas residences.

Pop music has always been a young person's game, and always will be, so I don't expect any new Céline material to make the same kind of waves it did 20 years ago. But there's still a lot of white space between that, and the way Courage was handled. Or mishandled.

 

It's not about being the top of the charts, it's about reaching the full potential of every project. Making in the best of itself, and Celine. And for the public / fans to experience the art.

[Mudo]

According to this article: https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/celine-dion-return-might-not-happen-until-fall-2022-2490266/

 

The earliest she "can" go back to Vegas is October 2022.

[CelineDionFreak]

According to this article: https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/celine-dion-return-might-not-happen-until-fall-2022-2490266/

 

The earliest she "can" go back to Vegas is October 2022.

 

Yeah, that was posted earlier. I suspect we will hear more concrete information once she gets on the road after Denver on dates and all.

[maki_Dion-er]

https://youtu.be/K66WU6VQhdo

 

Seeing her show end just like that makes me appreciate Celine's goodbye speeches even more. I hope she continues doing those at the end of her shows when she returns.

 

According to this article: https://www.reviewjo...l-2022-2490266/

 

The earliest she "can" go back to Vegas is October 2022.

"Everything else is totally on schedule" - yeah until it's not. I hope things do go as planned come next year but at this point we can't be sure of anything.

Edited December 5, 2021 at 07:04 AM by maki_Dion-er

[PuraVida]

Yes, I'm with you. None of that sounds particularly reassuring.

 

Exactly. Not reassuring.

 

Well, I will continue to hope Celine gets better and support her in other ways, hopefully incluing winning this Christmas online poll for her lol.

[Dancing_Queen]

To be fair, even if she was making great progress they probably wouldn't tell us in so many words. It could lead to additional enquiries from the insurance company. Any news, good or bad, they'll probably only share when the second run would have ended.

[comingback]

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[comingback]

 

 

Exactly. I think Sony music and Adele know that she’s at the point in her career that Celine was in around 2003ish. She just had a wildly successful album after a major comeback (similar to Celine) but she most probably has peeked, in terms of musical releases and now she will start focusing on the money makers, like touring and Vegas residences.

 

They showed Adele's TV special on German TV yesterday.

For me as a fan since the 90s, it's sad to see how Adele replaced Celine. Ballads, Vegas, Oprah... But that's the music business.

I'm still pissed off how Sony/TC have managed (or better not managed) Celine's career in the last 10 years. The low point was the Courage album..

bad production/pronunciation etc..

I hope Celine gets well soon and will come back with new energy and hunger for the music world.

Edited December 5, 2021 at 11:03 AM by comingback

[celinesounds]

 

 

Really? You’re not sure?! 🤦‍♀️

 

Seriously, stop disseminating this junk, people. Can’t believe that needs to be said.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html

[PuraVida]

https://www.cdc.gov/...yocarditis.html

 

1) Very rare side effect

2) Mostly in young adults and males --- Celine is neither

3) Most people get better quickly and return to normal activities

4) No symptoms involve muscle spasms

 

 

The speculation that Celine's condition is related to the vaccine is just horrible. Even if, god forbid, Celine did have a side effect---which would be exceptionally rare--that is no reason to dismiss vaccines. Vaccines are responsible for human life returning to normal on the planet.

[ryba]

If I was Celine, I would be pissed at Sony for pushing young artists so strongly with the same means they once used for Celine, but hardrly giving a damn about Celine who paved the way for all these new artists. I think that if Celine put her foot down and asserted her position, they could very well work on a new larger than life album, a Celine style 90s power ballad album and this time promote the hell out of it with countless appearences, tv specials and concerts, and she could very well have a huge come back. Aldo showed us that is is indeed possible in 2016.

[PuraVida]

If I was Celine, I would be pissed at Sony for pushing young artists so strongly with the same means they once used for Celine, but hardrly giving a damn about Celine who paved the way for all these new artists. I think that if Celine put her foot down and asserted her position, they could very well work on a new larger than life album, a Celine style 90s power ballad album and this time promote the hell out of it with countless appearences, tv specials and concerts, and she could very well have a huge come back. Aldo showed us that is is indeed possible in 2016.

 

I always got the impression Sony was one of the very least savvy and creative record companies out there. I got the sense they are behind the times in a lot of aspects, so naturally Celine would feel the negative impact of that.

 

I wish we knew the budgets and the allocation of responsibility for her promos. In the defense of (well, whoever was in charge), Celine did shoot another music video for the Courage album. That's good. But the problem is we never saw it. That's just one example.

 

I think good album promo can actually be quite cheap. The key is knowing how to do it.

[Mudo]

If I was Celine, I would be pissed at Sony for pushing young artists so strongly with the same means they once used for Celine, but hardrly giving a damn about Celine who paved the way for all these new artists. I think that if Celine put her foot down and asserted her position, they could very well work on a new larger than life album, a Celine style 90s power ballad album and this time promote the hell out of it with countless appearences, tv specials and concerts, and she could very well have a huge come back. Aldo showed us that is is indeed possible in 2016.

Why would she be pissed? There are 2 players in the making of Celine Dion: Sony and Rene (RIP) succeeded by her Team Celine group. If she is not doing as well as she did before it's because we are missing the big piece of puzzle that made Celine who she was: Rene. Not only that but the fact that she aged and is no longer the artist of the now anymore. She made her money, she has nothing to prove anymore, she is enjoying life more than her career because she has worked all her life and it shows: it is no longer 1 album after the other but 6+ years in between albums.

 

In addition, Sony is a business not a charity: they have to get their ROI somehow and new artists are the way to go by doing shows. Mind you, when Celine wanted to do Vegas back in 2003, Sony was against it and was telling her that it was a career suicide. So at least now, they are not pressuring new artists to pump new albums out of thin air but to do shows in order to get ROI.

 

However, if you see artists like Mylene Farmer, she has a better team than TC and has put out many blu-rays/4k blu-rays of her concerts out there and is much more relevant than Celine in France that is. Also the fact that Mylene is considered a regional artist (might attract interest in Europe mostly France/Italy) is much easier to promote than an international superstar that is Celine that is known worldwide, much more difficult to hit a promo in many countries and keep her relevant in each one of the international markets.

[maki_Dion-er]

Why would she be pissed? There are 2 players in the making of Celine Dion: Sony and Rene (RIP) succeeded by her Team Celine group. If she is not doing as well as she did before it's because we are missing the big piece of puzzle that made Celine who she was: Rene. Not only that but the fact that she aged and is no longer the artist of the now anymore. She made her money, she has nothing to prove anymore, she is enjoying life more than her career because she has worked all her life and it shows: it is no longer 1 album after the other but 6+ years in between albums.

 

I agree with your post but just wanted to point out that Celine has released albums every 3 years, not 6.

 

Celine has accomplished everything she dreamed about. International career, performing with practically all her idols, touring the world, bilingual career, and yes made a lot of money. She's a veteran act now, a relevant veteran but still veteran so sadly Sony isn't going to spend the same amount on promo for her as for an artist still in their prime. And it's clear Celine doesn't care for that either (no matter how much we wish she did). She'll continue to release new music (hopefully) and performing live because that's what she loves to do, and perhaps continue to look out for that acting role she's been dreaming and waiting for.

[Celinelife]

 

 

I agree with your post but just wanted to point out that Celine has released albums every 3 years, not 6.

 

 

I think they meant English albums since noone except French-speaking and her fans cares about her French career.

[joaofilho]

If I was Celine, I would be pissed at Sony for pushing young artists so strongly with the same means they once used for Celine, but hardrly giving a damn about Celine who paved the way for all these new artists. I think that if Celine put her foot down and asserted her position, they could very well work on a new larger than life album, a Celine style 90s power ballad album and this time promote the hell out of it with countless appearences, tv specials and concerts, and she could very well have a huge come back. Aldo showed us that is is indeed possible in 2016.

that's what I always think, other artists of the same age or older than Celine receive a different treatment, see Madonna, in her latest CD she released several video clips, appearances and interviews on TV programs, same thing with Jennifer Lopez, Mariah carey.

I don't know why it's just Celine, sony isn't helping, maybe it's better to go to another house.