Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELED

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

Celine could do a little video. People are panicking saying it’s two years. It’s not. She was talking about Vegas last year. It’s been around 8 months. I suspect she’s still not right. Possibly quite unwell. I also suspect she may retire from music soon and enjoy life. Who could blame her. I would !

 

A little video would be nice. Unless she’s very unwell.

 

Well technically it has been OVER 2 YEARS since Celine has last sung/performed on stage (woth the exception of the 2 online-at-home concerts that she took a small part of in spring 2020, & that was now over 2 years ago!) So that is where the 2 years that all of us & the media keep mentioning are from...

 

Except for announcements of her show cancellations & postponements, & the release of "Superwoman" last year (which we all know was recorded YEARS AGO before 2020, most likely sometime in 2016-2017 judging by the pictures released of Celine & Diane Warren during their recording sessions,) Celine has VERY M.I.A. since the pandemic started... & with having NO UPDATES from her team whatsoever since the last round of cancellations/postponements several months ago, it is VERY WORRYING that something must be going on with her health at this point, & the continuing radio silence just cements that feeling we all been having even moreso than ever...

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

Celine could do a little video. People are panicking saying it’s two years. It’s not. She was talking about Vegas last year. It’s been around 8 months. I suspect she’s still not right. Possibly quite unwell. I also suspect she may retire from music soon and enjoy life. Who could blame her. I would !

 

A little video would be nice. Unless she’s very unwell.

 

Also, the part about what you said "I suspect she may retire from music soon and enjoy life, who could blame her": where I do kind of understand where you are coming from with that thought, & of course if she TRULY DID wanted to stop singing & retire, of course I would be happy for her & accept the decision if so (as bittersweet it would be as well, pretty much the same way I felt when another favorite singer of mine since childhood, Phil Collins, also eventually retired from singing & performing music many years ago, but I digress...)

 

But the thing is, in this current situation Celines in these days, its much more about her HEALTH ISSUES, instead of retirement. Because really, if she was retiring, or planning to retire, she would have already straight-out CANCELLED EVERYTHING at this point, she would not keep postponing her tour dates & hold on to her fans money for over 2 years now (& in some cases, almost 3 years, since the "Courage World Tour" started in 2019!) It is her health issues that now keeps causing the continuing show postponements/cancellations (& first it was the Covid pandemic that started the postponements in 2020!) & plus, if she were to eventually retire, I would HOPE & PRAY there would be some kind of an announcement from her & her team, or a very special farewell show, or something like that before she did... I just can not see her just retiring ANYTIME SOON, especially without a special announcement or farewell show or anything, unless for one reason: if her health becomes so bad that she is physically unable to go back to singing (& I really HOPE & PRAY her health issues are not that bad to the point thatshe is forced into retirement...) **Crosses my fingers & my toes & praying**

[No1IrishFan]

Did anyone else see the written message Celine sent to the Quebec government office in London? They celebrated 60 years so she sent a message. It’s the usual you would expect from Celine but she did mention a ‘return to the world stage’ and that she would see the UK very soon. Could be a good sign or perhaps it’s something her team wrote on her behalf and it’s just wishful thinking….

 

 

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[homerton]

The red heads are reporting celine has recovered and is starting rehearsals for Vegas

[seantrainor]

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Looking more and more like a November return at RW!! Usually whatever Deuxmoi posts turn out to be true. So it's looking like Vegas in a few months!

Edited July 28, 2022 at 09:12 AM by seantrainor

[Ri2n]

The red heads are reporting celine has recovered and is starting rehearsals for Vegas

 

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[scielle]

Did anyone else see the written message Celine sent to the Quebec government office in London? They celebrated 60 years so she sent a message. It’s the usual you would expect from Celine but she did mention a ‘return to the world stage’ and that she would see the UK very soon. Could be a good sign or perhaps it’s something her team wrote on her behalf and it’s just wishful thinking….

 

Yes, it’s in the Random thread.

Was surprised to see it yesterday, not the sort of thing she normally does. But shows she’s still engaged and in the loop.

 

The red heads are reporting celine has recovered and is starting rehearsals for Vegas

 

Vital Vegas, too.

But I suspect given content of their respective messages, it’s all based on the same source - the Deuxmoi post yesterday.

[scielle]

Whenever she’s ready to be back, I hope she does a proper comeback interview, at least in Quebec media, in not an English one. There’ll be plenty of curiosity and people wanting to hear from her. I’m actually pleasantly surprised how she has managed to keep private all this time, that French / QC tabloids didn’t find anything beyond a trip to the dentist with the twins. It’s heartening, in this day and age of everyone carrying around a camera in their pocket.

 

Anyway, they’ll have to do some serious promo for these shows again. So hopefully she’s ready to do the press rounds.

Edited July 28, 2022 at 12:16 PM by scielle

[joaofilho]

If she comes back in November, everything is already laid out and programmed, press already scheduled, interviews.

I think in September we should have a confirmation.

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

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Looking more and more like a November return at RW!! Usually whatever Deuxmoi posts turn out to be true. So it's looking like Vegas in a few months!

 

Hmmm no offense or anything, but I just dont see a TABLOID being a very good "source" of anything! Because more often than not, tabloids are known to be MOSTLY FALSE, they usually tend to do MADE-UP STORIES in order to get clicks/sell magazines & such...

 

Now is there any REAL SOURCES that has ACTUALLY CONFIRMED that Celine REALLY IS coming back in October/November (which is now ONLY 2 MONTHS AWAY from now,) since there is NOTHING listed on any of Celines social media pages or her website about this, only that tabloid? & nothing against tbe "Red Heads", but in the past they have claimed to have had "inside information" about Celine-related things, but had proven to have been FALSE as well... So honestly I would not rely 100% on them for proof either... Just saying

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

 

 

I don’t see any possible way she’ll be performing later this year. Late October is only three months away. That’s not very much time to ensure ticket sales would be solid. Plus, the logistics of fans having to procure last-minute hotel and air reservations would be insane. So, while I could be wrong, I would say Celine isn’t performing this year.

 

EXACTLY! I agree 100% that October/November are ONLY 2 MONTHS AWAY FROM NOW (since we are about to enter the month of August,) so unless show tickets went on sale VERY SOON, there just would NOT BE ENOUGH TIME for fans (especially those of us who live VERY FAR away from Las Vegas,) to also secure airplane tickets, hotel rooms, arrange time off from work, arrange child care during time off, etc... as well as the show tickets themselves! & trust me from experience, & I am very sure that I am not the only fan to have also been through it, but it is LITERAL HELL to try to book last minute airplane tickets & hotel reservations, not to mention VERY EXPENSIVE & USUALLY NON-REFUNDABLE AS WELL!

 

& please spare the standard "well go get a better paying job", or "go get a job period" statements, as yes I do have a full-time job, & no not everybody can be rich & afford to THROW AWAY MONEY down the drain on airplane tickets & hotel reservations that usually can NOT BE REFUNDED! Most of us fans also have WORK & FAMILIES to worry about, I know I do! I have to put in days off from work & arrange child care for my 2 kids before I can go off on a trip, & those airplane tickets & hotel reservations are costly (considering I live all the way in Maryland,) so last minute trips are not doable for me at all! & again I am very sure that many of other Celine fans are in the same situation, so Celines team would have to have tickets on sale months in advance, otherwise the majority of the fan base are going to miss out on attending her shows, including myself (& I am sure about 80%-90% of her fan base all around the world!)

Edited July 30, 2022 at 09:07 PM by thatstheteacherinmehbaby

[seantrainor]

Hmmm no offense or anything, but I just dont see a TABLOID being a very good "source" of anything! Because more often than not, tabloids are known to be MOSTLY FALSE, they usually tend to do MADE-UP STORIES in order to get clicks/sell magazines & such...

 

Now is there any REAL SOURCES that has ACTUALLY CONFIRMED that Celine REALLY IS coming back in October/November (which is now ONLY 2 MONTHS AWAY from now,) since there is NOTHING listed on any of Celines social media pages or her website about this, only that tabloid? & nothing against tbe "Red Heads", but in the past they have claimed to have had "inside information" about Celine-related things, but had proven to have been FALSE as well... So honestly I would not rely 100% on them for proof either... Just saying

 

So Deuxmoi isn't a tabloid... she's a gossip girl who reports on celeb news. However, as I mentioned above, about 90-95% of her submissions come true and are accurate. It's thought that the people submitting to her are people inside the industry who wish to remain anonymous but also want to leak and/or put information out there. Also, I have a friend who works at RW and he strongly hinted that they are gearing up for a November return. It might just be local fans and immediate surrounding states that get to go see her in November cause it'll only be a 3 week first run of shows. Team Celine never does anything properly when it comes to promo/announcements really so we might just get an announcement mid-August I'd guess.

[nuts2you]

Ive also heard something about a Dec return , So I guess we will see

[PuraVida]

Interesting how if she comes back later this year, she and Adele will be there together around the same time.

[CelineDionFreak]

Interesting how if she comes back later this year, she and Adele will be there together around the same time.

Part of me wonders if she feels pressured to go on because Adele will be there this winter. Not that they’re competing, because while they draw similar audiences, I think is for different reasons. If Celine plays her cards right, she can capitalize on a little friendly competition. She just needs to market the heck out of this, since it’s kind of a last minute announcement. People will come, but people need to know.

[PuraVida]

Part of me wonders if she feels pressured to go on because Adele will be there this winter. Not that they're competing, because while they draw similar audiences, I think is for different reasons. If Celine plays her cards right, she can capitalize on a little friendly competition. She just needs to market the heck out of this, since it's kind of a last minute announcement. People will come, but people need to know.

 

Personally, I believe Celine will feel very little competition or pressure. But it does make economic sense to try and have the audience double dip, and if her team has any brains at all they will make some kind of promo/PR move involving Adele. Pictures together, or them attending each other's shows. The more organic moment of Celine dancing and living life at Gaga's show in Vegas is still talked about.

[CelineDionFreak]

 

 

Personally, I believe Celine will feel very little competition or pressure. But it does make economic sense to try and have the audience double dip, and if her team has any brains at all they will make some kind of promo/PR move involving Adele. Pictures together, or them attending each other's shows. The more organic moment of Celine dancing and living life at Gaga's show in Vegas is still talked about.

And at this point, it would make total sense if Celine popped over to Caesar’s to see Adele’s show. Maybe even stepping on stage briefly, who know. While she may not be there anymore, the Colosseum is the house built for Celine, so it’s a huge good PR opportunity for her if anything. In fact, I think it’s good for nostalgia sake too in a way. Let’s see what happens!

[stevo]

I don’t know. I still feel a bit uncomfortable how she’s been MIA for so long and then suddenly will have to appear 100% to try flog a lot of tickets in 3 months. As popular as she is, she’s literally been silent.

 

Also, personally, the fact that Vegas would take precedent over her fulfilling European shows that I and thousands of others had bought tickets for years ago is a tad offensive- logistics or not.

 

If Vegas is happening, then she needs to come back with a bang and shout to the world that she’s ready. I can’t bear it if it’s another video of her on the sofa ‘inviting us to Vegas’

[PuraVida]

And at this point, it would make total sense if Celine popped over to Caesar's to see Adele's show. Maybe even stepping on stage briefly, who know. While she may not be there anymore, the Colosseum is the house built for Celine, so it's a huge good PR opportunity for her if anything. In fact, I think it's good for nostalgia sake too in a way. Let's see what happens!

 

If they are both in Sin City together at the same time, and don't sing together -- it's a crime to culture and music! But I would settle for photos or videos of them together given rational expectations.

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

 

 

So Deuxmoi isn't a tabloid... she's a gossip girl who reports on celeb news. However, as I mentioned above, about 90-95% of her submissions come true and are accurate. It's thought that the people submitting to her are people inside the industry who wish to remain anonymous but also want to leak and/or put information out there. Also, I have a friend who works at RW and he strongly hinted that they are gearing up for a November return. It might just be local fans and immediate surrounding states that get to go see her in November cause it'll only be a 3 week first run of shows. Team Celine never does anything properly when it comes to promo/announcements really so we might just get an announcement mid-August I'd guess.

 

Yes, but does this "Duexmoi" or whoever she/he/them are know Celine personally/close to Celine, etc? (Sorry but I have honestly NEVER heard of this "Duexmoi" before, & have NEVER even seen this person mentioned before on this forum in the 2 & a half years I have been a member of this forum!)

 

Again I am wondering how "valid" this source is... Because it is now AUGUST, & the supposed "return" of Celine performing is in October & November - that is now ONLY 2-3 MONTHS AWAY! & yet there has been NO OTHER SOURCES mentioning Celines supposed "return" of performing except for this "Duexmoi" person (& no the "Red Heads" DO NOT COUNT, as they are only going by the "Duexmoi" post, which is the post the rest of us are going by! & honestly I feel the "Red Heads" DO NOT know Celine anymore personally than the rest of us fans do! Over the years they have claimed "personal connections" with Celine & her team, but had been wrong about upcoming events/rumors on multiple occasions!)

 

& plus, if no announcements are made from Celine & her team about these upcoming shows & tickets are not on sale soon, many fans (the MAJORITY of us who do not live in or around Las Vegas or in the state of Nevada period,) will not have enough time to secure airplane tickets, hotel reservations, time off from work, etc... So those fans will unfortunately get to miss out! Do you think that would be fair? No I do not think it would be fair to the rest of us fans who live all over the world!

 

But honestly, I feel in my heart & my soul that we are dealing with nothing but rumors & gossip... Because so far we have had only one source claiming this rumor, & nothing but radio silencce from Celine & her team! If there are shows coming up soon, Celine & her team need to hurry up & make an announcement & get those tickets out on sale, time is starting to run out if they want to fill up those thousands of seats in Resorts World, & sorry but only having "local fans" at her shows, (& thus excluding the rest of her millions of fans outside of Las Vegas & of the west coast,) is not going to do that!

Edited August 1, 2022 at 11:17 PM by thatstheteacherinmehbaby

[stone]

So I’m hearing it may only be up to a 6 week run end of the year. Everyone’s been talking about her being sick, so her disappearance has people talking. So I don’t think she’s forgotten and can’t sell…she’s Celine the Queen of Vegas after all! Edited August 2, 2022 at 04:01 AM by stone

[ordinary fan]

So I'm hearing it may only be up to a 6 week run end of the year. Everyone's been talking about her being sick, so her disappearance has people talking. So I don't think she's forgotten and can't sell…she's Celine the Queen of Vegas after all!

I agree with you 100%, Celine will always sell but if they don't leave enough time between the announcement and the shows, it's gonna be too late for people who live far away, so they can't plan their trip with flights, hotels etc anymore in this short amount of time. I don't think Celine will be on stage in front of an empty room but they should keep the fans in mind who live in other parts of the world

[PuraVida]

Does anyone recall well the happenings of the tour? I seem to recall hearing Celine was battling being sick for parts of the CWT, and maybe had ear issues at one point? Then of course her mom passed away, and all of this after, iirc, they started the tour quite soon after Vegas.

 

Many fans seem to think she will sound incredible with more vocal rest, but my point in asking is that I wonder if the CWT never gave us an accurate picture of her recent vocal condition to begin with given all that was going on. Who knows if she was experiencing any (im)perceptible changes resulting from what would later become her diagnosis, as well.

[isurrender]

There is vocal rest and vocal rest. Hahaha.

 

A 2 years+ vocal rest is not good either.

Voice is like any other muscle: if you stop practising...you start losing ability.

 

Of course, we don't know if she has practised from time to time. But if she didn't do anything, she will have hard times...

 

I don't expect stellar vocal conditions. It will take some shows before her voice gets stronger.

 

Like any other field, balance is the key of success.

 

120 shows a year can be as "damaging" than no singing at all...

[jpatdeleon09]

I think they did a great job with the visuals. I hope they will hire again this company for Céline’s 3rd Residency Show at Resorts World

 

https://silentpartnersstudio.com/celine-dion-2/

[jpatdeleon09]

I wonder what’s the “switching to 96 khz”.

 

https://www.tpimagazine.com/ssl-l550s-power-celine-dions-courage-world-tour/

[Peppercorn1991]

There is vocal rest and vocal rest. Hahaha.

 

A 2 years+ vocal rest is not good either.

Voice is like any other muscle: if you stop practising...you start losing ability.

 

Of course, we don't know if she has practised from time to time. But if she didn't do anything, she will have hard times...

 

I don't expect stellar vocal conditions. It will take some shows before her voice gets stronger.

 

Like any other field, balance is the key of success.

 

120 shows a year can be as "damaging" than no singing at all...

 

I think with the vegas show planned for last year she will have been doing vocal exercises in preparation. It wasn’t long before Vegas was supposed to start when the announcement came that it was cancelled. Same for the tour this year.

 

I think Celine is smart and knows her business comes from her voice so she will have looked after it. Whenever she speaks about her voice, she totally understands what it takes.

 

Kev x

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

I agree with you 100%, Celine will always sell but if they don't leave enough time between the announcement and the shows, it's gonna be too late for people who live far away, so they can't plan their trip with flights, hotels etc anymore in this short amount of time. I don't think Celine will be on stage in front of an empty room but they should keep the fans in mind who live in other parts of the world

 

EXACTLY!

 

Because NOT all fans live in Las Vegas or on the west coast! What about fans within other parts of the United States? & about the fans in other countries such as Canada, Europe, Asia, Australia, etc?

 

They would have to give fans much more time to book airplane tickets, hotel reservations, time off from work, etc! Because lets face it, even though Las Vegas is a big city, NO WAY IN HECK there will be over 4,000+ fans who will buy tickets for fill up the WHOLE THEATER EVERY NIGHT of the shows run! There will still be lots of empty seats if her fans in every other region outside of Las Vegas/the west coast are excluded!