Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELED

[Ajax]

I’m talking about the hear when she is now almost automatically just a bit flat when she goes from her normal belts to higher ones. It s right there. I’m more concerned about that than the shakiness and rawness on some notes. It s even maybe related I don’t know.

 

Otherwise I totally agree with pepillo. For me the most noticeable enjoyable and important thing since 2016 is that she got back to her fierness on stage. She got back to interpreting songs, she got back to her animal instinct when live. While she lost it for the last 12 years more or less in my opinion. And that s amazing to witness. Her strength on stage is unbelievable even when she s not totally in charge vocally which makes it secondary.

 

Just that technically I don’t see her going through it vocally.

[Xpresso]

 

 

Please, anything you have to talk about and is not related to the topic, it's you OWN business, so use PM. The rest of us is not interested in both of your egos.

If someone tells me that I should leave the forum, he will sure get a response from me and not just in a PM, although I know it's annoying for others!! Edited September 20, 2019 at 11:56 AM by Xpresso

[Ajax]

That s how it is now. Just take lying down. It’s at the same time still unbelievable what’s she s doing vocally and some parts are not just average but clearly paintfull to listen to. It can t be like this for more than 1 year.

[Javito]

It certainly is YOUR BIG problem.

And you spend 60% of your time complaining about Celine and 40% about those who don't agree with your opinion. As you always respond, this is a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Unlike you, I haven't had the favour of being kicked out of the forum yet. Has it helped you be nicer towards other members? I don't thing so! Maybe you need another break yourself!

 

I was about to send you a PM, since your personal aversion against me is getting really annoying, but I'm not even wasting my time nor dedicating more attention to you on this.

 

Your statement saying I don't post other than complaints in this forum just proves how much aversion you can embrace, because it's utterly FALSE. There are still many positive posts and things that I share in other threads and many fans that appreciate what I share about specific albums and songs, and still enjoy my love and passion with the things I love about Celine, which are quite many. But oh, surprise, you never acknowledge this, never said a word or a "thank you" when I share things here. That's not of your liking right? That you are blind to see and you are too focused only on the negatives, it's YOUR own problem You cannot be more hypocrite now.

 

There have been literally dozens of posts complaining about the first show of this tour in this forum, but for some reason that escapes me, you ALWAYS come after me like an enraged dog. Same as manu, that it looks as if he had an alert on when I post to just immediately come and post something complaining and criticising me or what I post. Always. One could even think that you're obsessed with me, Jesus! And I'm sick of this situation.

 

So there was a show. And we shared opinions and critics. Oh, opinions? That what you lack, because apparently you see absolutely everything right, fine and with pink glasses. That you share opinions here, that's false. What you do is permanent bitching and mocking posts towards what others do OPINE and contribute. Ah contributions, that's what you precisely don't do here. Zero contributions. You're posts are as empty of interest as TeamCeline's emails Because you only post silly banal comments, most of times moaning and criticising what others have said That's your main activity here.

 

Leave me alone.

 

Stop moaning about the "moaners".

 

I don't mind being banned/warned of this forum. It became a much boring place to freely opine and have rich and open discussions precisely of people like you, who can't tolerate negative opinions. Even when a vast majority of fans are agreeing on the same criticisms. So if you can't deal with criticism and complaints, just go somewhere else, thank you

 

Edit: And I apologise for the embarrasing post that other nice people here have to see, but if people stops posting here and leaves this forum, you need to know publicly the reason why

Edited September 20, 2019 at 12:18 PM by Javito

[DionFanAlways]

I love the opening video for MHWGO. It needed something like that!

[joaofilho]

She could open English shows with A New Day has Come and put IACBTMN in the place of Lamour Existe Encore.

[LukeD]

So there was a show. And we shared opinions and critics. Oh, opinions? That what you lack, because apparently you see absolutely everything right, fine and with pink glasses. That you share opinions here, that's false. What you do is permanent bitching and mocking posts towards what others do OPINE and contribute.

You called those who disagreed with you delusional. Twice. In post 5210. Page 174. This goes beyond sharing an opinion. Actually a sign of narcissism. Because you are identifying a problem in others (in this case delusion) as if you are holding the absolute truth. Our opinions are not significant enough to validate or invalidate the process of thought of others. Edited September 20, 2019 at 12:46 PM by LukeD

[Davey84]

I just saw a video bootleg of the show. I am upset, I am appalled, I am angry!

 

This is the worst set list I have ever seen! Someone need to fire Scott NOW!

The disgrace that is putting FOMO IN A f****** MEDLEY!!

 

If they spend 80% of the effort they put into the setlist as those interlude videos, which were gorgeous!

 

I have lost all hope for the English show. Maybe the French version was an after thought, but I got zero respect for her team right now. In 23 years of being a fan I can't remember I have ever been so mad but also disappointed at her and her team.

[A new day...]

Am I the only one thinking the setlist will be different in Montreal? I can't see her opening with IACBTMN.

[Ajax]

 

Edit: And I apologise for the embarrasing post that other nice people here have to see, but if people stops posting here and leaves this forum, you need to know publicly the reason why

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And now we should thank you for telling us PUBLICLY the truth ?😂

 

 

There is not one day where a member and very different ones ask you politely to make an effort and stop repeating yourself everywhere. Not your opinion but just the fact that you re repeating yourself always and everywhere. After you enter a topic we almost know for sure that you will develop the same idea, 20 times not taking into account the simple things that others can tell you like a simple : we got you Javito please. That close every debates. Every.

 

The fact that you re still thinking that people are leaving because of us poor idolators unable to accept any criticism is sad really. And eventually what s happening is just the opposite. 😌

 

And no I don t have any aversion against you Javito. Before I follow the others and leave this forum because of your manners (not your opinions thank you) I would have tried to make you understand that like so many others before me.

 

Just a simple effort.

[joaofilho]

I have faith that the English shows will be different, let's keep calm and wait.

 

 

Am I the only one thinking the setlist will be different in Montreal? I can't see her opening with IACBTMN.

I think it will be the same setlist, I think it will only change in the shows in the English part.

[DionFanAlways]

I just saw a video bootleg of the show. I am upset, I am appalled, I am angry!

 

This is the worst set list I have ever seen! Someone need to fire Scott NOW!

The disgrace that is putting FOMO IN A f****** MEDLEY!!

 

If they spend 80% of the effort they put into the setlist as those interlude videos, which were gorgeous!

 

I have lost all hope for the English show. Maybe the French version was an after thought, but I got zero respect for her team right now. In 23 years of being a fan I can't remember I have ever been so mad but also disappointed at her and her team.

I understand. I don’t think Scott is the only culprit do you?

[Ajax]

I just saw a video bootleg of the show. I am upset, I am appalled, I am angry!

 

This is the worst set list I have ever seen! Someone need to fire Scott NOW!

The disgrace that is putting FOMO IN A f****** MEDLEY!!

 

If they spend 80% of the effort they put into the setlist as those interlude videos, which were gorgeous!

 

I have lost all hope for the English show. Maybe the French version was an after thought, but I got zero respect for her team right now. In 23 years of being a fan I can't remember I have ever been so mad but also disappointed at her and her team.

 

Well she may not have enough contradiction Within her team this is sure but this time we cannot blame René or any other members. Whatever we like it or not this is her show and she is the one to blame if we don t like the set list. And she told us so.

[Javito]

I just saw a video bootleg of the show. I am upset, I am appalled, I am angry!

 

This is the worst set list I have ever seen! Someone need to fire Scott NOW!

The disgrace that is putting FOMO IN A f****** MEDLEY!!

 

If they spend 80% of the effort they put into the setlist as those interlude videos, which were gorgeous!

 

I have lost all hope for the English show. Maybe the French version was an after thought, but I got zero respect for her team right now.

 

Oh Oh a moderator criticising Celine and her show!!! A mod being negative!!! How dare you Davey???

 

Xpresso, manu, Luke, Ajax and co., you're already losing minutes to stone him for this intolerable behaviour!!! Come on, I can't see your moaning about this member being negative, extremely negative?!?! What are you doing not coming immediately to answer him back and mock/ridicule/contradict his negative views??? Is it because he's not named Javito or something??

 

How double-biased you are guys. Really

 

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And now we should thank you for telling us PUBLICLY the truth ?��

 

 

There is not one day where a member and very different ones ask you politely to make an effort and stop repeating yourself everywhere. Not your opinion but just the fact that you re repeating yourself always and everywhere. After you enter a topic we almost know for sure that you will develop the same idea, 20 times not taking into account the simple things that others can tell you like a simple : we got you Javito please. That close every debates. Every.

 

The fact that you re still thinking that people are leaving because of us poor idolators unable to accept any criticism is sad really. And eventually what s happening is just the opposite. ��

 

And no I don t have any aversion against you Javito. Before I follow the others and leave this forum because of your manners (not your opinions thank you) I would have tried to make you understand that like so many others before me.

 

Just a simple effort.

 

Just a question: how many times do I have shared my opinion about the first show of the tour, so as you can state I have repeated and developed the same post 257 times??? Because as far as I know, I only posted a couple times in this thread about Quebec's show to express disappointment. Is that too much for you to tolerate, so as to say I am repeating myself?

 

Better said, isn't maybe that you're tired enough of any kind of thing that I post here, be it positive or negative, like your fellow friends that have like an allergy to anything I say here? Because when I do say good things or show appreciation about an album (yes, the ANDHC album), YOU TOO COMPLAINT about this! I'm so fed up. You are being hypocritical and so biased. Like Xpresso, you ONLY focus on the negative critics I post, but NEVER on the positives. And when I do positives, you mock and moan too. You are equally offended and annoyed when I show a passion or support for something. Never grateful when I share something in this forum like a chat with a songwriter that I recently posted, and you only came to ridicule the song (I Have To Dream). You're only and immediately ready to mock. That's your double standards here, like Xpresso and company. Hilarious!

Edited September 20, 2019 at 01:28 PM by Javito

[Ajax]

Ok Ok 😌

[Ajax]

 

 

Oh Oh a moderator criticising Celine and her show!!! A mod being negative!!! How dare you Davey???

 

Xpresso, manu, Luke, Ajax and co., you're already losing minutes to stone him for this intolerable behaviour!!! Come on, I can't see your moaning about this member being negative, extremely negative?!?! What are you doing not coming immediately to answer him back and mock/ridicule/contradict his negative views?

 

See 😌

[zuv]

I just saw a video bootleg of the show. I am upset, I am appalled, I am angry!

 

This is the worst set list I have ever seen! Someone need to fire Scott NOW!

The disgrace that is putting FOMO IN A f****** MEDLEY!!

 

If they spend 80% of the effort they put into the setlist as those interlude videos, which were gorgeous!

 

I have lost all hope for the English show. Maybe the French version was an after thought, but I got zero respect for her team right now. In 23 years of being a fan I can't remember I have ever been so mad but also disappointed at her and her team.

 

And they said: “we listened to her entire discography.” And thats what they came up with? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Were they all playing candy crush? Literally the safest, most boring, reheated, most blawww setlist.... ever. Its a stew of old 90s shows, 2016 summer tour and Vegas.

[Davey84]

And they said: "we listened to her entire discography." And thats what they came up with? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Were they all playing candy crush? Literally the safest, most boring, reheated, most blawww setlist.... ever. Its a stew of old 90s shows, 2016 summer tour and Vegas.

 

Yes and that's why I am disappointed!! WTF?! How can you say that and then have NO SUPRISE SONG what so ever, except for an Instrumental ASFY and one freaking line of Unison?! Seriously!!

 

I understand. I don't think Scott is the only culprit do you?

Well she may not have enough contradiction Within her team this is sure but this time we cannot blame René or any other members. Whatever we like it or not this is her show and she is the one to blame if we don t like the set list. And she told us so.

 

I know Céline is the main person here. And yes I am angry at her too. But Scott was the saviour after Mego, he came up with 'so many wonderful ideas', he was the one that was going to change it all! Well F that S! He should have said: no been there, done that! We will do something new! He's the musical director after all! Don't tell me you listened to all her albums and give this rechewed piece of garbage! What were they listening too? THe Best So Far?!

 

https://twitter.com/...038670677716993

 

feel free to like and retweet.

[stone]

Well I'm glad I didn't come on here right after attending opening night because all you bitchy queens really can ruin a good moment. I had a BLAST, so didn't 15,000 people who all had an epic night. The show was practically 95% live, the staging and lighting were amazing, and the energy was electric. Please resell your tickets to people who will enjoy seeing Celine, BYE! Edited September 20, 2019 at 01:36 PM by stone

[Javito]

Ajax, your reactions in the thread of "I Have To Dream", after I took the time to seek about the background of this song and ask the songwriter about his inspiration for it:

 

Can we just pretend instead that she never recorded this absolutly, at best, insignificant, dated, cheesy song ?

I wish she would have stayed away from this kind of songs. Unfortunalty after All the way, that's all she got.

 

Yes almost all her repertoire is cheesy, still if you don't make any difference between this and for example Because you loved me, I'm sorry for you.

 

That's a bad song, it is flat, almost idiot while beeing poorly grandiloquent. Ugh. No one would have accept this song except a girl winning an obscure musical TV show in the early 90s.

 

Please notice the absolutely harsh, severe and ridiculing tone of the latter post. I don't think someone can hate and trash more a song like you did here. But it's all good, I don't come after you in anger to force you like the song, trying to "correct" your opinion!

 

And I don't see you acknowledging my support and love for this song? Just mocking it. And mocking those who like it Does that bother you? It seems so. Javito likes a song, let's mock him deeply. Javito likes an album and only has good words about it. Let's stone him. You are annoyed for this. Right...

 

That's how far your unbiased judgement goes with me. Same as the other 3-4 people that are constantly attacking me saying I only repeat myself and post negative things here. You cannot be more hypocrite and false people. Even when you also severly criticised and pinpointed the SAME things and critics about Wednesday's show. Same as me.

 

You are only here either to add fuel to the fire (Xpresso), to mock someone all the time, or to beat a dead horse. That's how far you contribute in this forum. Sad for you guys

Edited September 20, 2019 at 01:41 PM by Javito

[Ajax]

Davey you should be more specific in your tweet.😁 The word stink just kill everything as it is an opinion.

 

Let s be pragmatic.

 

You told us you put back on the table her old repertoire as well as surprises. —> Not even one song from her back catalogue that wasn’t t sung xbillions times. And still searching for the surprises. Any explanation ?

Edited September 20, 2019 at 01:40 PM by Ajax

[Shamrock_1982]

Holy s*** in all the years on here, I have never seen you pissed off davey!!!

[Davey84]

Holy s*** in all the years on here, I have never seen you pissed off davey!!!

 

That's cos I am! Seriously!! In 23 years of being a fan, I have never felt this way!

[LukeD]

Oh Oh a moderator criticising Celine and her show!!! A mod being negative!!! How dare you Davey???

 

Xpresso, manu, Luke, Ajax and co., you're already losing minutes to stone him for this intolerable behaviour!!! Come on, I can't see your moaning about this member being negative, extremely negative?!?! What are you doing not coming immediately to answer him back and mock/ridicule/contradict his negative views??? Is it because he's not named Javito or something??

 

How double-biased you are guys. Really

I would advise you to calm down, read posts again so that you make better sense of them. Dave did not call anyone names. You did. And I actually think that I made myself very clear in my previous post. No sign of bias here.

 

Ironically, I agree with him and you on the set-list. I posted about it yesterday. Post #5129. Page 171. Go see. Please make an effort to read with an open mind. Peace.

Edited September 20, 2019 at 01:44 PM by LukeD

[Javito]

People gets dissapointed, people gets mad when they're teased with something coming big and it's the same old thing as 214 years ago, people complains, people shares their thoughts, and people REPEATS their complaints because they feel they've been fooled for the zilltionth time once and again... BIG news!!! :doh:

 

(Not particularly addressed to you Shamrock... )

Edited September 20, 2019 at 01:46 PM by Javito

[zuv]

Well I'm glad I didn't come on here right after attending opening night because all you bitchy queens really can ruin a good moment. I had a BLAST, so didn't 15,000 people who all had an epic night. The show was practically 95% live, the staging and lighting were amazing, and the energy was electric. Please resell your tickets to people who will enjoy seeing Celine, BYE!

 

No one is complaining about how fabulous she looked, how amazing she sounded, how beautiful the stage and lighting were. We are only surely and purely talking about the BORING, REHEATED NO SURPRISE setlist. Like nothing. They apparently rediscovered so many beautiful Celine songs while “creating” the setlist... but nothing!

Edited September 20, 2019 at 01:47 PM by zuv

[Ajax]

Ironically, I agree with him and you on the set-list. I posted about it yesterday. Post #5129. Page 171. Go see. Please make an effort to read with an open mind. Peace.

 

So do I as explained here before 😌

[pepillo90]

That's cos I am! Seriously!! In 23 years of being a fan, I have never felt this way!

 

Have you watched the videos from 1st row in HQ? At first I felt the same as you, but you have to watch her delivering the songs now... It's a new approach for me

[lyn]

Any decent crowd shots so we can see the audience and how full the venue has been?

 

Here’s one I took before the show started

 

[Davey84]

Have you watched the videos from 1st row in HQ? At first I felt the same as you, but you have to watch her delivering the songs now... It's a new approach for me

 

Yes I did! I had a great YouTube bootleg from 2nd row, thanks to the Indonesian fan who was there and Mirage sending me the link. But I don't care how she changed a little note here and there.They are the same repetitive songs we have had for 5 freaking tours now! There is no excuse for chosing these same songs over and over agan over the hunderds of others she has recorded!