Moleque20 Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:15 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:15 PM She could have kept the actual playlist, but why not add AWTBI and/or Call the Man? 1 Quote Les étoiles tombent une à une. Mes émois sont de saturne.
mirage Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:22 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:22 PM Of course they can.They didn't work together in the past so Sounds about right to me. But yes you are also right we don't know for sure that all this is info is 100% correct but just from what we've seen and heard seems to be the case.But if it is true and she no longer works with Productions J then can she still release and produce dvds without them or would she need to get a new company? 1 Quote
Nmj Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:22 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:22 PM Honestly, it doesnt affect anyone unlesd they are going to this show and dont like. We as standbyers dont get to pass judegment on something we arent involved in, doesnt effect us and is out of our control. Its been proven time and time again, outside of Europe shes never anywhere nsar2as adventurous because in Europe she can be risky and do less known songs, she doesnt really see that in other countries Just my 2 cents Did you know that for example the songs “I love you “and “Dreaming of You” were HUGE in Asia? Did you know what wasn’t huge... “Purple Rain”. I respect your two cents, but this isn’t Vegas, if she performs a song that causal fans don’t know in Vegas she maaaaay have a problem. As far as I’m concerned when on her tou the vast majority of the people would consider themselves fans. They probably bought the FIY album and know how much a gem that “Call The Man” is, or purchased the LTAL album and or bought the ANDHC album and adore “Sorry for Love”,or of course bought her Greatest hits album ATW a decade of song, would burst out of excitement if she sang “I want you to need me”. Let’s call this what it is, LAZINESS. She may be burnt out, or still problems from surgery, but this setlist took two minutes instead of weeks like a planned out show should take. 2 Quote
québecflower Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:23 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:23 PM and talking about her voice, did not listen to all the songs, but Ashes was great. 3 Quote Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
Javito Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:23 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:23 PM If this is going to be the fixed setlist for all the shows in this tour, I think this tour is just purely marketing, and herself making the commitment she agreed on 2014, but other than that... Now I'm listening to her Au coeur du stade live CD. I don't even feel like watching video bootlegs of songs I have bought, listened and watched hundreds of times in countless of releases since I became a fan in 2000. Thank God René pushed her to record one album per year before she worn out her voice and natural passion in Vegas. Thank you René. 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
brandon_vincent Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:27 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:27 PM I’m kind of surprised she didn’t add more for Japan but let’s still keep hope!! It’s only show 1! A lot can change! Le Ballet didn’t even come into the picture till later in the tour!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Javito Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:28 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:28 PM (edited) Did you know that for example the songs “I love you “and “Dreaming of You” were HUGE in Asia? Did you know what wasn’t huge... “Purple Rain”. I respect your two cents, but this isn’t Vegas, if she performs a song that causal fans don’t know in Vegas she maaaaay have a problem. As far as I’m concerned when on her tou the vast majority of the people would consider themselves fans. They probably bought the FIY album and know how much a gem that “Call The Man” is, or purchased the LTAL album and or bought the ANDHC album and adore “Sorry for Love”,or of course bought her Greatest hits album ATW a decade of song, would burst out of excitement if she sang “I want you to need me”. Let’s call this what it is, LAZINESS. She may be burnt out, or still problems from surgery, but this setlist took two minutes instead of weeks like a planned out show should take. So true! I Want You To Need Me was released in Japan, even in a unique Maxi single with remixes only available for the Japanese market! But first of all I don't think Céline can force her voice and hold it to the long sustained and high notes this song demands! It's an extremely demanding song.And secondly I bet you tell Céline about this song I Want You To Need Me and she looks at you totally puzzled and says "you want me to whaaaat?!" Not sure if she would remember this song, she never performed it! Edited June 26, 2018 at 07:30 PM by Javito 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
mirage Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:30 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:30 PM I realize that, and this is just a lame excuse for the setlist she is doing. The songs you mention are 9 in total, and yes that are the songs that "need" to be in the setlist.STILL it leaves room for almost TEN songs from her OWN repertoire that are "never sang before" "or performed 20 years ago" And maybe 5 songs that she can squeeze into a medley and rotate every show/tour You realize that we, on this board, represent like 0,1% of Céline's audience...right? You also realize that if they really polled fans in Asia for their favourite songs, the result would probably be what we just got, right? (MHWGO, TPOL, ,IACBTMN, BYLM, ABM, IA, TTWII, TT, TLYM) And if you've ever attended a Céline show, you must have also (albeit begrudgingly) noticed that LCMM/RDMH is what really got the crowd going...right? Sure, you can blame Céline for being a 'performer/crowd pleaser' more that an 'artist/risk taker'.But hello? This is Céline we're talking about?This is how she's always been? Stable and reliable, with small bursts of creativity here and there?We, the 0,1%, should probably know this by now... Now I'm not about about to call people bad fans, because I know you're all passionate as hell and it all comes from a place of love.But maybe you're just slow learners, some of you? Maybe? 2 Quote
Popular Post québecflower Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:34 PM Popular Post Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:34 PM (edited) Did you know that for example the songs “I love you “and “Dreaming of You” were HUGE in Asia? Did you know what wasn’t huge... “Purple Rain”. I respect your two cents, but this isn’t Vegas, if she performs a song that causal fans don’t know in Vegas she maaaaay have a problem. As far as I’m concerned when on her tou the vast majority of the people would consider themselves fans. They probably bought the FIY album and know how much a gem that “Call The Man” is, or purchased the LTAL album and or bought the ANDHC album and adore “Sorry for Love”,or of course bought her Greatest hits album ATW a decade of song, would burst out of excitement if she sang “I want you to need me”. Let’s call this what it is, LAZINESS. She may be burnt out, or still problems from surgery, but this setlist took two minutes instead of weeks like a planned out show should take.pretty sure that she did not had the time needed or that she wanted to practice, i think lazyiness is too strong a word . Doesn't fit with Celine. It is easy to see that she needs to perform a song a number of times to be confident enough to put it in her show. She is her worst critic, and maybe she doesn't need that in her life at the moment. She had diificult moments in the last years , plus her own illness. She still learn to live her new life. The first year, it was all adrenaline, now she lives with it forever. It will take some time to cross that bridge. I'm tired of certain songs myself, hope for some changes . But what we have is still better than nothing. Edited June 26, 2018 at 07:36 PM by québecflower 15 Quote Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
ryba Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:35 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:35 PM So true! I Want You To Need Me was released in Japan, even in a unique Maxi single with remixes only available for the Japanese market! But first of all I don't think Céline can force her voice and hold it to the long sustained and high notes this song demands! It's an extremely demanding song.And secondly I bet you tell Céline about this song I Want You To Need Me and she looks at you totally puzzled and says "you want me to whaaaat?!" Not sure if she would remember this song, she never performed it! loool yeah, I can totally imagine her being puzzled like that when hearing about that song 2 Quote
mirage Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:35 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:35 PM That's what I've been saying as well! A lot of people "blame" the song choices on the fanbase who is attending and isn't as crazy as we are. But they buy the BIG albums, and know the songs by heart, and have their favorites other than the "hits" So yes, she should do more from her own albums, even if they are less known.Eventually the become hits, look at I Surrender. Did you know that for example the songs “I love you “and “Dreaming of You” were HUGE in Asia? Did you know what wasn’t huge... “Purple Rain”. I respect your two cents, but this isn’t Vegas, if she performs a song that causal fans don’t know in Vegas she maaaaay have a problem. As far as I’m concerned when on her tou the vast majority of the people would consider themselves fans. They probably bought the FIY album and know how much a gem that “Call The Man” is, or purchased the LTAL album and or bought the ANDHC album and adore “Sorry for Love”,or of course bought her Greatest hits album ATW a decade of song, would burst out of excitement if she sang “I want you to need me”. Let’s call this what it is, LAZINESS. She may be burnt out, or still problems from surgery, but this setlist took two minutes instead of weeks like a planned out show should take. 2 Quote
Kristinaz Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:36 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:36 PM Of course they can.They didn't work together in the past so Thank God. I know nothing about how these things work so I wasn't sure. Quote
Popular Post manu23 Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:42 PM Popular Post Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:42 PM I can understand people complaining about the setlist, but about her voice? Compare her to last years of Whitney is even offensive... Celine's voice was perfect last year (despite the ear problem), but her ear condition has got worse and it is very difficult to treat. Surgery doesn't guarantee anything just read how many people kept suffering exactly the same symptoms after the surgery. It's clear she was not ready to come back but she couldn't cancel the Asian tour for a second time, her reputation there would have been ruined forever. I can only imagine the pressure. But some people should be more considerate, if Celine has showed us something over the years is that she is a professional, so is she is not delivering vocally I doubt it is lack of training or effort, she probably can't do better now. 15 Quote
Nmj Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:48 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:48 PM pretty sure that she did not had the time needed or that she wanted to practice, i think lazyiness is too strong a word . Doesn't fit with Celine. It is easy to see that she needs to perform a song a number of times to be confident enough to put it in her show. She is her worst critic, and maybe she doesn't need that in her life at the moment. She had diificult moments in the last years , plus her own illness. She still learn to live her new life. The first year, it was all adrenaline, now she lives with it forever. It will take some time to cross that bridge. I'm tired of certain songs myself, hope for some changes . But what we have is still better than nothing. I love Celine, I really do. But no matter what nobody can say this setlist wasn't lazy. What's new about it? A playback version of FIY? And at17? Whippti Dooo lol 3 Quote
Javito Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:51 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:51 PM Thing is, she had time to rehearse FIY with Pepe. She had time to rehearse that new medley of At Seventeen, ANDHC and Unison (in which she totally destroyed these songs imo). So you're not gonna tell me she didn't have time to rehearse a couple more new/old songs of her repertoire for this tour. No way. If she had time to do that, she had time to do something more too (and more fresh) 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Tyler1991 Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:58 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 07:58 PM Is it unfair that our expectations rise while ticket prices are doing the same? The two should coincide...wasnt it only like 5 years ago 250 could get front row?? Sorry but 1700 for a vip package that i thought was overpriced at 679 last year....wow...its not meeting celine, no backstage...its generic as can be. Its a silly luggage tag and a flashy lanyard for a show with no visuals...yes people these days want visuals even if they want a voice...im sorry but i as well agree that it was a bit disappointing. For what we are getting prices should be going down not up. 6 Quote
Popular Post GameC Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:06 PM Popular Post Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:06 PM I have read these walls of text written earlier, even I was going to answer a few, but... But I just realized that most, if not all, critical comments come from people who were not there... So I'll just say this: - I was there and I really liked this concert- I was sitting next to about 70 years old woman and a few younger in the 20-35 year range. And from their behavior I conclude that they also liked the concert very much.- And after the concert, you could not get to the tent with "Official Marchandise" for at least half an hour, so many people wanted to make purchases... Of course, everyone can have their own, other than the other feelings/interpretations. When it comes to me, I can say with full confidence that it was a successful start of the Tour. 16 Quote
Javito Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:08 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:08 PM (edited) Is it unfair that our expectations rise while ticket prices are doing the same? The two should coincide...wasnt it only like 5 years ago 250 could get front row?? Sorry but 1700 for a vip package that i thought was overpriced at 679 last year....wow...its not meeting celine, no backstage...its generic as can be. Its a silly luggage tag and a flashy lanyard for a show with no visuals...yes people these days want visuals even if they want a voice...im sorry but i as well agree that it was a bit disappointing. For what we are getting prices should be going down not up. Bravo!! Well said :clap1: :clap1: Edited June 26, 2018 at 08:09 PM by Javito 4 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
isurrender Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:13 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:13 PM Honestly, it doesnt affect anyone unlesd they are going to this show and dont like. We as standbyers dont get to pass judegment on something we arent involved in, doesnt effect us and is out of our control. Its been proven time and time again, outside of Europe shes never anywhere nsar2as adventurous because in Europe she can be risky and do less known songs, she doesnt really see that in other countries Just my 2 cents She is Celine Dion, she can do whatever she wants to with her show just like the other artists. She has sold about 200 million album... I don't really think it's a risk to sing a non single song from one of the best selling albums in history, like Dreamin of you for instance. 1 Quote
Dion2000 Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:13 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:13 PM I just find all this complaining extremely ironic after all shes been through this year. Javito, she rehearsed a medley (of which only 1 song is new and even then she wouldnt find difficult) and a single song with Pepe which in of itself isnt difficult. But still, Celine is still under caution from her doctors and you can tell. From January to May she was ill many times and had to undergo surgery and then rest, in 2016 and 2017 she had MONTHS. THIS year she had what ? A month ? From May to June she had one month WHILST STILL PERFORMING and trying to be a mom too. How on earth in a single month whilst still working and looking after kids AND resting post surgery do you expect her to revise an entire show ?? Its truly laughable to me 5 Quote
anewdayhascome Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:14 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:14 PM Is it because of Celine's illness that Barnev had to have his same old segment too? 2 Quote A New Day... 10th & 11th November 2006 Taking Chances World Tour, Antwerp 13th & 14th May 2008, Kraków 28th June 2008 Celine 25th & 27th & 31st August 2013 20th, 23rd, 24th, 27th & 28th September 2016 Sans attendre Tour, Paris 1st & 5th December 2013 Encore un soir, Paris 24th, 25th, 28th, 29th June & 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 7th, 9th July 2016 Live 2017 Stockholm 17th June 2017 Lille 1st & 2nd July 2017 Paris 8th & 9th July 2017 Berlin 23rd & 24th July 2017 Live 2018 Taipei 11th & 13th July 2018 Manila 19th July 2018 Bangkok 23rd July 2018 BST Hyde Park London 5 July 2019
CelineDionFreak Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:19 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:19 PM I feel like I’m the only one with this serlist... if she likes t why can’t she do it? Celine makes artistic choices and I’m grateful for it. I think it’s glad she’s helping pick things now, and if she’s happy with it, I’m going to appreciate it. She clearly had fun last night! 6 Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
Dion2000 Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:21 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:21 PM Is it because of Celine's illness that Barnev had to have his same old segment too? How many times, she had less than a sixth of her usual time of rehersals i dont expect much but we still have a bit Unison To Love You More (FULL VERSION) Falling Into You The Reason (Before last year hadnt been performed LIVE in 18 years) Ashes (First time ever out of Vegas still only a month old regardless) 3 Quote
anewdayhascome Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:26 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:26 PM (edited) How does your answer answer my question?! But to answer your answer1 min of UTLYM playbackFYI 2 min playbackTR has been performed in Vegas 2011-2015 so you count wrong so nothing freshAshes is not that important it has come and will go just like how does a moment last forever unnoticed in the long run Edited June 26, 2018 at 08:27 PM by anewdayhascome Quote A New Day... 10th & 11th November 2006 Taking Chances World Tour, Antwerp 13th & 14th May 2008, Kraków 28th June 2008 Celine 25th & 27th & 31st August 2013 20th, 23rd, 24th, 27th & 28th September 2016 Sans attendre Tour, Paris 1st & 5th December 2013 Encore un soir, Paris 24th, 25th, 28th, 29th June & 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 7th, 9th July 2016 Live 2017 Stockholm 17th June 2017 Lille 1st & 2nd July 2017 Paris 8th & 9th July 2017 Berlin 23rd & 24th July 2017 Live 2018 Taipei 11th & 13th July 2018 Manila 19th July 2018 Bangkok 23rd July 2018 BST Hyde Park London 5 July 2019
Javito Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:31 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:31 PM (edited) She is Celine Dion, she can do whatever she wants to with her show just like the other artists. She has sold about 200 million album...I don't really think it's a risk to sing a non single song from one of the best selling albums in history, like Dreamin of you for instance. Yeah and besides, risk of what? Are they gonna jump from their seats and leave the arena if she starts singing amazing songs like Call The Man, Dreaming Of You or Then You Look At Me? Is someone in the audience have a fit and start yelling to her "heyyy this song wasn't a single, you have not performed this before I want my hits back!!!" if she premieres songs like Next Plane Out or Faith or Right In Front Of You or The Greatest Reward? Is someone in the audience going to rush to the exit and claim his money back because Céline sang a song he didn't know? LOL! I'd say the audience would be rather ecstatic in their seats and saying "wow, I don't know this song but it was amazing", or "wow, I'm not familiar with this song, I wish she sang more of these!", don't you think? The chances Céline is missing for keeping so many of these songs hidden to the general public... :pinch: There's no risk of anything for singing new/rare songs lol . The only risk is of her becoming a joke of what she once was and people start noticing what we already know and have been saying for years already: that her shows are always the same and that she doesn't evolve as an artist and never offers something new. THAT'S A REAL RISK guys I just find all this complaining extremely ironic after all shes been through this year. Javito, she rehearsed a medley (of which only 1 song is new and even then she wouldnt find difficult) and a single song with Pepe which in of itself isnt difficult. But still, Celine is still under caution from her doctors and you can tell. From January to May she was ill many times and had to undergo surgery and then rest, in 2016 and 2017 she had MONTHS. THIS year she had what ? A month ? From May to June she had one month WHILST STILL PERFORMING and trying to be a mom too. How on earth in a single month whilst still working and looking after kids AND resting post surgery do you expect her to revise an entire show ?? Its truly laughable to me I never said revising an entire show. We all know there are 6/8 songs that are always going to be there. But from there, there are lots of things she could do, and it's not like we're asking her to spend 8 hours a day working like a normal person. I grant you she's been sick, and that there wasn't much time to prepare this tour. But again, if she could do FIY and the medley, she could surely include a couple more songs of her own, like she did the past tour. Have You Ever Been In Love, Reveal (this one is not even vocally demanding), Faith, name whatever you want. They went for the minimum effort sorry. But ticket prices keep rising and her shows keep offering less and less. Edited June 26, 2018 at 08:37 PM by Javito 2 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
comingback Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:32 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:32 PM (edited) If this is going to be the fixed setlist for all the shows in this tour, I think this tour is just purely marketing, and herself making the commitment she agreed on 2014, but other than that... Now I'm listening to her Au coeur du stade live CD. I don't even feel like watching video bootlegs of songs I have bought, listened and watched hundreds of times in countless of releases since I became a fan in 2000. Thank God René pushed her to record one album per year before she worn out her voice and natural passion in Vegas. Thank you René.Yes, the ACDS live CD is amazing. I love the live versions of JCT, Terre, SISDA... . That CD and SISDA introduced me to the " French, artistic" Celine. Edited June 26, 2018 at 08:33 PM by comingback 1 Quote
Dion2000 Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:33 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:33 PM How does your answer answer my question?! But to answer your answer1 min of UTLYM playbackFYI 2 min playbackTR has been performed in Vegas 2011-2015 so you count wrongAshes is not that important it has come and will go just like how does a moment last forever Regarless of Playback it hasnt been done in 20 odd years. TR hasnt been performed LIVE (if you paid attention the word live was emphasized because she hadnt sang it without playback since 1998). PLAYBACK IS VOID IT DOESNT MATTER LE BALLET WAS THE EXACT SAME CASE. Wow you really are a good fan arent you, completely disregarding a brand new song because it doesnt fit your narrative. LIAWN isnt exactly some sort of legendary song its only known by die hards and yet gets more premise here than a brand new, beautiful song You said there is nothing new and i disproved that. Also saying i count wrong... Ummmm. She didnt even perform TR from 29TH July 2014 and didnt sing it at all in 2015 (try again) until last year and it was 100% live. And btw, FIY is more than 2 mins and Unison isnt 1 min either. If anyone cant count, its not me lol its you 1 Quote
CelineDionForeverNY Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:35 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:35 PM Did she even do her little snippet of Watashi Wa Totemo last night? She's always done that when she went to Japan since the LTAL tour. Quote http://i.imgur.com/dQ1vYVz.jpgMais qui peut dire, qu’il peut vivre sans amour, qui?
Dion2000 Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:38 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:38 PM Yeah and besides, risk of what? Are they gonna jump from their seats and leave the arena if she starts singing amazing songs like Call The Man, Dreaming Of You or Then You Look At Me? Is someone in the audience have a fit and start yelling to her "heyyy this song wasn't a single, you have not performed this before I want my hits back!!!" if she premieres songs like Next Plane Out or Faith or Right In Front Of You or The Greatest Reward? LOL! I'd say the audience would be rather ecstatic in their seats and saying "wow, I don't know this song but it was amazing", or "wow, I'm not familiar with this song, I wish she sang more of these!", don't you think? There's no risk of anything for singing new/rare songs lol . The only risk is of her becoming a joke of what she once was and people start noticing what we already know and have been saying for years already: that her shows are always the same and that she doesn't evolve as an artist and never offers something new. THAT'S A REAL RISK guys * I never said revising an entire show *. We all know there are 6/8 songs that are always going to be there. But from there, there are lots of things she could do, and it's not like we're asking her to spend 8 hours a day working like a normal person. I grant you she's been sick, and that there wasn't much time to prepare this tour. But again, if she could do FIY and the medley, she could surely include a couple more songs of her own, like she did the past tour. Have You Ever Been In Love, Reveal (this one is not even vocally demanding), Faith, name whatever you want. They went for the minimum effort sorry. But ticket prices keep rising and her shows keep offering less and less. Neither did I all i said was that she didnt have time for that much and tbh FIY AND the medley are quite surprising considering her priorities werent rehersals for the show. Quote
Dion2000 Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:38 PM Posted June 26, 2018 at 08:38 PM Did she even do her little snippet of Watashi Wa Totemo last night? She's always done that when she went to Japan since the LTAL tour. Dont think so Quote
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