Celine and Pepe

July 31, 2019 at 10:59 PM

Of course he's not so bad.

People blame him for lots of things... like her aging... really? Is he Mr Time?

But I never worried till this point. Somehow in someway he has managed her "inner circle" to circle around him in this magnitude. First the romance rumours, now this. This Pepe guy surely knows how to get himself a ton of free PR for being friends with a superstar. Well done.

July 31, 2019 at 11:03 PM

Of course he's not so bad.

People blame him for lots of things... like her aging... really? Is he Mr Time?

But I never worried till this point. Somehow in someway he has managed her "inner circle" to circle around him in this magnitude. First the romance rumours, now this. This Pepe guy surely knows how to get himself a ton of free PR for being friends with a superstar. Well done.

Theyve been best friends for 2 years... can we maybe stop acting as if he’s only been around her for a month? There are people in the industry who get married after 2 months and are accepted and loved by everyone around them... its not unusual. If i was best friends with someone for 2 years, most people around me would also like them or wouldve voiced if they didnt.

Edited July 31, 2019 at 11:04 PM by AdrienneM

August 1, 2019 at 12:19 AM

Ah, yes Team Celine. This is exactly how you put a rumour to bed... :wtf: *slow clap*

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August 1, 2019 at 12:29 AM

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Well they did. Many articles which fed the rumour have now eaten their words. So its worked to a degree

August 1, 2019 at 12:33 AM

Of course he's not so bad.

People blame him for lots of things... like her aging... really? Is he Mr Time?

But I never worried till this point. Somehow in someway he has managed her "inner circle" to circle around him in this magnitude. First the romance rumours, now this. This Pepe guy surely knows how to get himself a ton of free PR for being friends with a superstar. Well done.

Agree that I have never worried til this point either. Until now I said Celine is just living her best life and having fun. This dude is probably a good listener and someone she feels physically attracted to...but wake up girl, he’s Ziggy. Even if his heart is in the right place, this sure doesn’t make it look like that.

The moment this posse identified themselves as her inner circle and stroked this dude’s ego on all her social platforms (when the only time TC has featured other people is when they are legit celebs or she’s paying homage after they’ve died) is when red flags went up for me. From being her dance partner (is he even a dancer?) to being in the promo video for her tour (is he an actor?)...like I said, why didn’t Law have these benefits back when he was her stylist? She’s even had her boundaries with Annie Horth. Why didn’t her “inner circle” post a message like this when she was getting so much bad press about her weight? When her guitarist Kevin was getting the same flack for being her new romantic partner why didn’t her band release a similar statement in defense of him?

Before people react just know that we have the right to be worried as her fans. After decades of following this woman we’re not gonna let some stranger come along and jeopardize her presence in our lives. She’s always prided herself in the fact that Rene surrounded her with the best people. At the end of the day I just don’t think Pepe would have been one of those people Rene let in.

August 1, 2019 at 12:37 AM

Well they did. Many articles which fed the rumour have now eaten their words. So its worked to a degree

I don't see the few tabloids who picked up the Page Six story eating their words.

I see legitimate press amplifying something that should have died a quick death in the tabloid junkyard.

And those tweets are just the tip of the iceberg.

Then there are choice headlines like Celine Dion’s friends rally around star in furious open letter to rumoured lover

Pouring gasoline on an ember.

August 1, 2019 at 12:39 AM

Wow ET? That was quick.

August 1, 2019 at 12:41 AM

The moment this posse identified themselves as her inner circle and stroked this dude's ego on all her social platforms (when the only time TC has featured other people is when they are legit celebs or she's paying homage after they've died) is when red flags went up for me. [...]
When her guitarist Kevin was getting the same flack for being her new romantic partner why didn't her band release a similar statement in defense of him?

Pretty telling, too, that her self-proclaimed "inner circle" doesn't seem to include any of her musicians.

August 1, 2019 at 12:48 AM

Pretty telling, too, that her self-proclaimed "inner circle" doesn't seem to include any of her musicians.

I mean... other than work, when are they actually around her. Unless i hang around with my work colleagues alot outside of work, i still regard them as that, work colleagues. Shes very close with her colleagues, but they’re still that, infact no, her employees. Also considering most of them with some exceptions shes only known around 3 years. And yes, shes only known Pepe for 2, however they were around each other constantly and i assume talk heavily. And again... self proclaimed... it was clearly this was a publicist run that was quickly put past her. Oh and they even used “inner circle”... maybe im grabbing at straws

August 1, 2019 at 12:49 AM

Pretty telling, too, that her self-proclaimed "inner circle" doesn't seem to include any of her musicians.

Which Rene obviously knew she would be vulnerable to after he passed so he fired her entire band. The only interactions she has with the current band are limited to when they’re on stage together.

August 1, 2019 at 01:03 AM

I mean... other than work, when are they actually around her. Unless i hang around with my work colleagues alot outside of work, i still regard them as that, work colleagues. Shes very close with her colleagues, but they're still that, infact no, her employees. Also considering most of them with some exceptions shes only known around 3 years. And yes, shes only known Pepe for 2, however they were around each other constantly and i assume talk heavily. And again... self proclaimed... it was clearly this was a publicist run that was quickly put past her. Oh and they even used "inner circle"... maybe im grabbing at straws

They're all her employees.

But what this tells me is she's closer with her stylist & hairdresser than she is with her musical director & concert master. (And I don't think Sydney & Dee have been there longer than, say, Scott or Elise.)

It's pretty revealing about her priorities.

And that's fine; it's completely her prerogative.

It's just telling about where the focus is right now and what we should expect going forward.

August 1, 2019 at 01:20 AM

They're all her employees.
But what this tells me is she's closer with her stylist & hairdresser than she is with her musical director & concert master. (And I don't think Sydney & Dee have been there longer than, say, Scott or Elise.)

It's pretty revealing about her priorities.
And that's fine; it's completely her prerogative.
It's just telling about where the focus is right now and what we should expect going forward.

Well if we’re being real. Who is she as a busy celeb going to hang out with more. Her musical director when shes only performing 1/3rd of a year, or her stylist and hairdresser who will be with her at every event and probably every concert she performs or attends, as well as fashion weeks or if shes doing a family event. Imo, it adds up, at least to me, it’s interesting to see others opinions though

Edited August 1, 2019 at 01:20 AM by AdrienneM

August 1, 2019 at 01:26 AM

"Why didn't she hang out with Law like this" "why aren't her musicians her friends?"

Is everyone here close friends with everyone they work with? There's a simple answer to this and that is that she chooses who she's friends with.

Rest assured that those working for Celine know full well if they are part of her inner circle or not, so I don't think feelings are being hurt with this letter.

She doesn't have to be super close with her musicians or Scott to work well with them, and I don't see how her personal preference in friendships means she prioritizes fashion over her musical career. We saw many people in that list of her "inner circle" and only 3 are involved in her fashion endeavors.

"If Rene were here..."

He's not (RIP), and he sheltered Celine too much imo.

I think this tweet response is being blown way out of proportion by fans. It's not a big deal, and this story will die down by the end of the week. Ofc media outlets are picking it up because people love drama, but I think "Celine & team defend her friend" is a better headline than "her boy toy is manipulating her".

Edited August 1, 2019 at 01:35 AM by maki_Dion-er

August 1, 2019 at 03:25 AM

You make it sound as if we're making a fool of ourselves by having an opinion. If you go to the comment section on her accts, you will find that many of her followers are either appalled, confused, or both. This is a legitimate concern and a normal reaction for me as a fan and this is not bermirching her. Stop defending the indefensible and learn to respect other people's opinion.

Imagine people being THIS BOTHERED over a statement made by her publicists that people who havent posted in years are coming back to besmirch her name and her team for... this?!?!. This is foolery at its finest

August 1, 2019 at 03:26 AM

From being her dance partner (is he even a dancer?) to being in the promo video for her tour (is he an actor?)...like I said, why didn’t Law have these benefits back when he was her stylist? She’s even had her boundaries with Annie Horth. Why didn’t her “inner circle” post a message like this when she was getting so much bad press about her weight? When her guitarist Kevin was getting the same flack for being her new romantic partner why didn’t her band release a similar statement in defense of him?

Ummmm... Where have you been?! YES, HE IS A TRAINED DANCER AND ACTOR. That was his first career when he was younger (professional dancers have a short shelf life).

And to answer why her team never responded to previous rumours...

1) rumours concerning Céline are her business, and didn’t involve ruining anyone else’s reputation - it comes with the territory of being rich and famous, not being a close friend ; and

2) the media hasn’t latched onto to anyone this close to her before in such a negative way - not even René (and even still, when they did he had a lot more money/power/sway to defend himself).

People are (unrealistically) obsessed with blaming Pepe for all the changes in her life, and sure he helped buoy her, but imagine if he hadn’t been there?? It could have been much worse. Besides, the woman is still grieving. Remember when her dad died? She looked even worse during that period IMO. I work in the funeral industry and let me tell you, it’s a long process. You don’t just get “over it” in 2 years. None of us has any place to say whether that’s why she’s so thin right now or not, but that’s my guess. She’s experiencing a new wave of grief, and I’m sure glad she has a close confidante and supportive team. If her way of escaping the sorrow is to dance until she weighs 90 lbs, and shop away her fortune, then so be it. It’s her life - not her fans.

Edited August 1, 2019 at 03:27 AM by Chantemoi

August 1, 2019 at 06:31 AM

That's how I interpret it as well.

I think these 3 people really became 'her friends'

Where the others are her 'colleagues friends'

Where the others stay in different hotels, these 3 stay with Céline the entire time. So I get that you develop more of a friendship with them.

But still, it feels strange.

And this instagram post makes it even worse. They really responded in a very very childish way, using words like 'real members of the inner circle'

It's like Pepe went in hysterical and somehow demanded that they did something about it, or that they (the inner circle) are trying to save their own asses.

The only way they should have act if they really wanted to, was to have the manager talk about it in a interview. Oh wait we don't have a decent manager.

Or that Celine during a show made some jokes about she not in control anymore.

Like she someday joked with Kaven about the rumours on stage.

This was just a very childish act, and for me makes me dislike Pepe even more.

They're all her employees.
But what this tells me is she's closer with her stylist & hairdresser than she is with her musical director & concert master. (And I don't think Sydney & Dee have been there longer than, say, Scott or Elise.)

It's pretty revealing about her priorities.
And that's fine; it's completely her prerogative.
It's just telling about where the focus is right now and what we should expect going forward.

August 1, 2019 at 06:47 AM

I wonder what Pepe feels now.... because i just saw his insta story and he’s just painting like nothing happened.

I really hope Pepe is a good influence to Céline. I really hope. There are people that are nice at first but in a long run... be careful. Don’t trust too much or else.. remember Selena?

Edited August 1, 2019 at 06:47 AM by jpatdeleon09

August 1, 2019 at 06:51 AM

Don’t trust too much or else.. remember Selena?

Did you just compare Pepe to a murderer? I can't even facepalm hard enough for this ..... calm down

August 1, 2019 at 06:53 AM

You know, like they say: There is no such thing as bad publicity :whistling:

August 1, 2019 at 06:53 AM

Did you just compare Pepe to a murderer? I can't even facepalm hard enough for this ..... calm down

Yeah! A Manager that became a murderer. That’s why I’m just saying don’t trust too much. I don’t think it’s wrong to be careful. We don’t know how people thinks. There are people who are also manipulative. Just being careful.

Edited August 1, 2019 at 07:00 AM by jpatdeleon09

August 1, 2019 at 07:38 AM

I'm done. If even Scielle, my mentor on this forum :blush: , is asking herself why isn't she going out with Scott....And so on... Well, indeed she NEVER did that, NEVER.

We 're not even sure René wouldn't have done the same thing if a member from her direct management was accused of abusing her and her team. It would have surely been more extreme.

The only extreme, immoderate, conspiracy and irrationnal thing here is your reaction. The, 10-20 members remaining on here are the most conservative ones that will never accept Celine's choises after René. She did nothing in term of singing and creativitity for the last 10-15 years, we are witnessing so many exciting things coming, we are witnessing finally Celine as a creative artist, global business woman and at the beginning of a new musical era but there's nothing to be done. René is not here anymore and almost no one here is ready to accept that, and accept that this woman is now doing it exactly how she wants, and still, is adressing little by little what was wrong for the last 15 years. That is exciting, that is empowering. But Ok, I guess this is not about that anymore.

August 1, 2019 at 07:48 AM

Those reactions from fans are normal. We don’t really know what’s happening in Céline’s team. But the only thing that i want for céline is to be careful with people surrounding her. Especially for the newer ones.

August 1, 2019 at 07:53 AM

No it isn't in my opinion, I'm making a difference between moderate assumption, point of view and the extreme non sens I'm reading, as well as the inability from a majority of member here to accept a new chapter after René. Speaking about Selena is one of this ridiculous and extreme thing, clearly.

August 1, 2019 at 08:11 AM

No it isn't in my opinion, I'm making a difference between moderate assumption, point of view and the extreme non sens I'm reading, as well as the inability from a majority of member here to accept a new chapter after René. Speaking about Selena is one of this ridiculous and extreme thing, clearly.

I know but It’s just an example. My point is she shouldn’t trust much. Just being careful. Don’t just focus on selena. lol

And I don’t know why it’s ridiculous because it happened in real life and It might happen again to some people

I just really really hope Pepe is a good influence to Céline. That’s all. And he should be consistent on that. Making Céline happy. I don’t want to see céline being devastated because of betrayal in the end.

When rene was alive. He makes sure that céline is surrounded by the best people around her and now he’s gone. Céline is on her own managing herself. As a fan, i just want her to be careful and she should not trust that much on people surrounding her especially newer ones. Just being careful. Because it might happen. We really don’t know. That’s why she should be careful.

Edited August 1, 2019 at 08:22 AM by jpatdeleon09

August 1, 2019 at 08:43 AM

Oh this is horrible! So so so bad. They had so much time to delete the post and prevent this.

God. Whyyy. I am so embarresed for her. This is so childish of her and her team. And only adds "truth" to these rumours than if they've just silenced it down.

Ah, yes Team Celine. This is exactly how you put a rumour to bed... *slow clap*
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August 1, 2019 at 08:43 AM

Of course he's not so bad.

People blame him for lots of things... like her aging... really? Is he Mr Time?

But I never worried till this point. Somehow in someway he has managed her "inner circle" to circle around him in this magnitude. First the romance rumours, now this. This Pepe guy surely knows how to get himself a ton of free PR for being friends with a superstar. Well done.

Im not so sure if it was his plan and intention. I might also be Celine who saw his potential and gave him this position, influence and status without him being so eager to have it, and now people just got jealous Edited August 1, 2019 at 08:44 AM by ryba

August 1, 2019 at 08:53 AM

You know, like they say: There is no such thing as bad publicity

yes, a part of me also thinks that they use this whole drama thing to their advantage to put peoples attention on her. In the end it’s the show business world Edited August 1, 2019 at 08:56 AM by ryba

August 1, 2019 at 09:00 AM

If he didn't want to ride the wave of being a friend to Celine Dion and if they truly wanted no attnetion to their friendship like someone here said I don't see why he would namd drop her so much on his insta and post about them hanging out. To me that smells a bit like bad intentions. But I hope I am wrong.

Im not so sure if it was his plan and intention. I might also be Celine who saw his potential and gave him this position, influence and status without him being so eager to have it, and now people just got jealous

August 1, 2019 at 09:03 AM

I wonder what Pepe feels now.... because i just saw his insta story and he’s just painting like nothing happened.

Well he might be happy his persona just got another bunchload of free advertising.

You know, like they say: There is no such thing as bad publicity

No gets as much publicity as Pepe from this though....

August 1, 2019 at 09:04 AM

I wonder what Pepe feels now.... because i just saw his insta story and he’s just painting like nothing happened.

Well he might be happy his persona just got another bunchload of free advertising.

You know, like they say: There is no such thing as bad publicity

No gets as much publicity as Pepe from this though....

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