Celine and Pepe

[jepoi]

It's pathetic. Her socmed team should resign after this gaffe. It's not celine herself addressing the issue, so why use celine's official socmed accts? It doesn't make sense. Very unnecessary. And very stupid of them to resort to this.

 

If pepe cannot handle the heat, then he should leave! No need for this. If it's celine herself who is bothered then it should be her addressing this and not her "inner circle" using her offcial socmed accts.

 

By resorting to this, this (non)issue is now unnecessarily blown out of proportion. I even doubt this post was sanctioned by celine.

Edited July 31, 2019 at 07:39 PM by jepoi

[Jeanette]

I did not expect Céline or her team to react to this tbh, I’m thinking Pepe’s extremely upset by the accusations and wanted his name and reputation cleared.

 

I feel this is possibly only going to add fuel to the fire as most of the general public have no clue about Pepe or who he even is. However, perhaps that’s why they chose to address it on her social media knowing that the fans are well aware who he is and that what we think matters not some cheap tabloids.

 

I have to say I’m sure Celine is well aware that this has been addressed, in fact I’d go as far to say that she ordered it.

 

I do still have my concerns about Pepe though, on the one hand I’m happy she’s found a friend who, from the outside, looks like he makes her happy but I just can’t help feeling she’s maybe opened her heart up to him a bit too much and now if rumours are to be believed her career and public status too. I’m just not convinced he’s totally genuine.

 

I know I said this before and got shot down in flames and yes I understand that no one should feel pressured in to declaring publicly their sexuality but he had loads of posts on his IG regarding LGBT and pride until he first appeared around her and then all those posts disappeared. That’s no coincidence!! Although, I do believe Celine, knowing how to play the media, was more than happy for the rumours of romance to do the rounds to boost his public status. I feel it strange that they didn’t set the record straight sooner about his sexuality than when they did, if this wasn’t the intention. Perhaps his boyfriend had a hand in this being set straight. Who knows?

 

I just feel that Celine has really let this man in to her ‘inner circle’ implicitly both personally and professionally and I’ve never known her to do this with anyone before. Rene always had her well protected and although I know Celine is no shrinking violet, I just worry that she’s so besotted with him (as a bff) that she can’t see the wood for the trees.

 

I sincerely hope I’m way off and that she has found a true platonic soulmate to fill the void in her life, I really do!!!

Edited July 31, 2019 at 07:35 PM by Jeanette

[RosieBarron]

I did not expect Céline or her team to react to this tbh, I'm thinking Pepe's extremely upset by the accusations and wanted his name and reputation cleared.

 

I feel this is possibly only going to add fuel to the fire as most of the general public have no clue about Pepe or who he even is. However, perhaps that's why they chose to address it on her social media knowing that the fans are well aware who he is and that what we think matters not some cheap tabloids.

 

I have to say I'm sure Celine is well aware that this has been addressed, in fact I'd go as far to say that she ordered it.

 

I do still have my concerns about Pepe though, on the one hand I'm happy she's found a friend who, from the outside, looks like he makes her happy but I just can't help feeling she's maybe opened her heart up to him a bit too much and now if rumours are to be believed her career and public status too. I'm just not convinced he's totally genuine.

 

I know I said this before and got shot down in flames and yes I understand that no one should feel pressured in to declaring publicly their sexuality but he had loads of posts on his IG regarding LGBT and pride until he first appeared around her and then all those posts disappeared. That's no coincidence!! Although, I do believe Celine, knowing how to play the media, was more than happy for the rumours of romance to do the rounds to boost his public status. I feel it strange that they didn't set the record straight sooner about his sexuality than when they did, if this wasn't the intention. Perhaps his boyfriend had a hand in this being set straight. Who knows?

 

I just feel that Celine has really let this man in to her 'inner circle' implicitly both personally and professionally and I've never known her to do this with anyone before. Rene always had her well protected and although I know Celine is no shrinking violet, I just worry that she's so besotted with him (as a bff) that she can't see the wood for the trees.

 

I sincerely hope I'm way off and that she has found a true platonic soulmate to fill the void in her life, I really do!!!

 

Basically everything you have said...

[maki_Dion-er]

I dont know why this bothers people so much. HER TEAM (not her) made a statement, people *in this thread* were constantly posting more and more links to articles picking it up and it spreading like wildfire. They made a statement about, wether its a tabloid allegation of not, an allegation of someone isolating and removing a celebrity from those who care about her / work with/for her, basically a form of manipulation and deceit. If so many of you in here dont care about all this, why are you so easily bothered by anything Pepe? If you dont like it, move on, ignore it. Complaining doesnt get us anywhere, look at the last 4 years (2015 was when english album demands started)

 

Yeah, it's a pretty serious allegation to make. This wasn't getting around just in France and Quebec, I've seen it online on Fox News and AOL, and perhaps in other places. Bette Midler seems to have read something about. They got ahead before it got even bigger, now the "news" is about them defending their team member.

 

I have no doubt Celine is aware of this, I don't think they would do something like this without her concent when they are using her social media to do so. The rumours were about discord within her team and about Pepe taking over/manipulating her so, imo, it's good that they acted on it because it was her team looking bad more so than her imo. Just as the time they addressed the issue with that touring company that went public and stated she didn't want to pay them. She didn't have to sign it herself.

[fred]

I couldn't care less about Pepe and Céline but what the f*** is up with her latest fb post? Haven't read any rumours about she being isolated by him ( she's on bloody vacation ). Why is her fb being this ridiculous drama queen?

 

If they can't post anything about her new music (which is all I am interested in and which I guess most fans scream for) why the hell comment on anything regarding Pepe, which I as a harcore fan has heard NOTHING about.

 

WTF. Delete the fb post god damnit. Who was drunk and posted that? It's beyond embarassing.

[jepoi]

That one with the touring company was dealt with professionaly. This one, not really. It's either celine herself address the issue, or they keep mum about this altogether.

 

Its true that most often than not there is dignity in silence. Especially, if it's not something for her to be bothered about. Lousy move, team celine! Embarassing.

 

 

I have no doubt Celine is aware of this, I don't think they would do something like this without her concent when they are using her social media to do so. The rumours were about discord within her team and about Pepe taking over/manipulating her so, imo, it's good that they acted on it because it was her team looking bad more so than her imo. Just as the time they addressed the issue with that touring company that went public and stated she didn't want to pay them. She didn't have to sign it herself.

Edited July 31, 2019 at 07:53 PM by jepoi

[québecflower]

I couldn't care less about Pepe and Céline but what the f*** is up with her latest fb post? Haven't read any rumours about she being isolated by him ( she's on bloody vacation ). Why is her fb being this ridiculous drama queen?

 

If they can't post anything about her new music (which is all I am interested in and which I guess most fans scream for) why the hell comment on anything regarding Pepe, which I as a harcore fan has heard NOTHING about.

 

WTF. Delete the fb post god damnit. Who was drunk and posted that? It's beyond embarassing.

i think that it has gone around, more than your country in the world. And there's talk in québec , her home, where she is at the moment.

[sarit_celine]

Basically everything you have said...

 

It takes one woman to know when other woman is obbesed with someone. Again, wishing her true happiness

this time I can't see a good situation here and can't see she is doing it from a stable place.

Edited July 31, 2019 at 07:53 PM by sarit_celine

[jepoi]

Even the red heads is appaled by this stupid move of celine's team.

[AdrienneM]

Ah yes, lets all take the incredible and valuable high horse opinion of the red heads, who systematically leaked the whole tour surprise a day before it happened and were contacted to take it down AND REFUSED. I cannot

[jepoi]

Lol even without the red heads saying anything about the issue, it still won't change the fact that celine's socmed team has just made a terrible, embarassing blunder by making a molehill out of nothing using celine's official socmed accts. And they did this to stroke pepe's bruised ego. How lame. I don't hate pepe but this is totally lousy.

[alexceline]

Lol even without the red heads saying anything about the issue, it still won't change the fact that celine's socmed team has just made a terrible, embarassing blunder by making a molehill out of nothing using celine's official socmed accts.

 

It's really not that serious...

[alexceline]

I don't get the point of this being posted but lol at the meltdowns in here

[scielle]

Well, Billboard has picked it up.

Great job extinguishing a rumour there, Team Celine ! 😏

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8525632/celine-dion-inner-circle-responds-pepe-munoz-rumors

Seriously...I don't know what they were thinking.

[jepoi]

Because this is not normal. This is wrong on so many levels. Her inner circle should address this personally to pepe to assure him that he is not being despised by the team for supposedly exercising control over celine and her career. But instead of doing that, they made a huge blunder of using celine's official social media accts to stroke pepe's bruised ego. Why do that? Why make it public at celine's expense?

[incognito]

What a bunch of amateurs.

[fdelnooz]

Ah yes, lets all take the incredible and valuable high horse opinion of the red heads, who systematically leaked the whole tour surprise a day before it happened and were contacted to take it down AND REFUSED. I cannot

 

Hi dear Adrienne,

 

My name is François and I'm part of the Red Heads team.

 

Please note that

 

1) the infos about the tour have been published by Celine's team itself. We did not leak anything (go see the definition of leak). The tour infos we published were even available on Google.

 

2) nobody has contacted us to take it down. I don't know where you learned that.

 

Thank you

[ehild]

I saw articles floating around earlier in the week but as a fan I just disregard that stuff. So I was a bit surprised to see her team address this in such a public manner. They should know that we all know this is rubbish and just left well enough alone. In the days of Rene that article would have never been published. I realize those days are gone but still....if anything I agree her team should have just talked to Pepe personally. I wonder if he wanted something said more than anyone and here we are... Edited July 31, 2019 at 09:09 PM by ehild

[AdrienneM]

 

 

Hi dear Adrienne,

 

My name is François and I'm part of the Red Heads team.

 

Please note that

 

1) the infos about the tour have been published by Celine's team itself. We did not leak anything (go see the definition of leak). The tour infos we published were even available on Google.

 

2) nobody has contacted us to take it down. I don't know where you learned that.

 

Thank you

 

Edit: You know what, no. Im not going to sit and squabble with you over something I know for a fact. Im not in the mood and this thread seems to be as argument filled as can be already. Im just going to leave this:

 

Im not here to argue with someone who leaks tour info and takes celines team addressing a building rumour way too seriously... oh and says theyre not prepping the tour or the album when theyve been doing so for months. Good day to you

Edited July 31, 2019 at 09:17 PM by AdrienneM

[Celine Fan 77]

At first I was really surprised that they posted this message as they never respond to tabloids... etc, but I hey, they're talking about her best friend here, so it's only normal.

 

Think about it, wouldn't it hurt (or at least really bother) you if worldwide press started saying untrue things about your relationship with your best friend?

[Shamrock_1982]

Imagine how pissed everyone who thought they were in that “inner circle” who weren’t name checked in that post... lol

 

I reckon there are more circles.... inner inner circle, the core, the nucleus....

[maki_Dion-er]

Because this is not normal. This is wrong on so many levels. Her inner circle should address this personally to pepe to assure him that he is not being despised by the team for supposedly exercising control over celine and her career. But instead of doing that, they made a huge blunder of using celine's official social media accts to stroke pepe's bruised ego. Why do that? Why make it public at celine's expense?

 

This is isn't about protecting his ego. If that were the case they'd release a statement anytime someone criticized his or Sydney's fashion choices for Celine.

"Dear, Pepe

You're doing great sweety, don't listen to them they can't see how creative you are.

XOXO"

 

lol

 

This is about defending the reputation of someone. But, also very important, they are showing that Celine's team is united. And do you think Celine really doesn't know about this? Her brother is one of the people that signed this letter. Maybe there was a better way to do this but it's not that big a deal imo.

I for one do feel a little bad for Pepe because the media has been talking about him nonstop since he became friends with her. Their closeness put him and their relationship constantly in the spotlight even if they don't want it like that. Maybe at first they didn't mind it but now it might be getting to much, especially when it's started to take a more negative and damaging turn.

 

EDIT: I love how they signed in alphabetical order

Edited July 31, 2019 at 09:47 PM by maki_Dion-er

[Shaun]

Embarrassing.

[fred]

I didn't know her team used drugs... that post is way too paranoid an shows major lack of judgement. A bad trip is all I can explain it with....

[mirage]

Imagine how her band feels now.

 

I'm gonna laugh so hard if they suddenly remove the post because they too see that it's stupid

 

Imagine how pissed everyone who thought they were in that “inner circle” who weren’t name checked in that post... lol

 

I reckon there are more circles.... inner inner circle, the core, the nucleus....

[fred]

Sadly I have to agree. Never really commented on his intentions with Céline before since I can't read his mind (and I am happy Céline has a new best friend, coz she God do diserves it). But the way he acted with his instagram before always name dropping her gave a bad taste in my mouth. If he truly was her friend he'd be fine with just that. And not feeling the need to post on his insta constantly that she hangs with him. It kinda feels like he just wants to show off.... It shows weird intentions. In my book at least.

 

 

And now this.... it's like he desperatly needs to be the center of attention. Who cares about these rumours?

 

Totally making a hen out of a feather and adding more promo to the person Pepe...

 

So sad to watch.... If anything this can show she's being used. This should be waaay below her posting this to the world.

 

I do still have my concerns about Pepe though, on the one hand I’m happy she’s found a friend who, from the outside, looks like he makes her happy but I just can’t help feeling she’s maybe opened her heart up to him a bit too much and now if rumours are to be believed her career and public status too. I’m just not convinced he’s totally genuine.

[idroveallnight]

Have not posted on this forum in years but feel compelled to do so because that Instagram post seemed very distasteful to me and unlike anything we would expect from TC. One little article in Page Six should not be enough to elicit this type of reaction from fans who have known and followed Celine long before this new posse emerged. Let me say that I, like many of you, am so thrilled by this renaissance that Celine is experiencing (which if we are being honest did not happen because of Pepe but because of Law Roach and Celine's partnership).

 

However, I do believe there is some truth to the article and that people who were truly handpicked by Rene to be part of her team are wondering how this 30-something got thrust into the same spotlight as her. At first, I think they enjoyed all the cute press she was getting from being romantically linked to a younger, good looking guy and just let it happen -- all press is good press, right? And maybe this Instagram post is just another way to play into it. But I do think Celine has genuinely felt bad for playing into it since he is gay and the whole thing was probably really confusing to him..."Like, am I your boy toy, your showmance, your friend...what exactly is my job here cuz I'm still young and have my entire career ahead of me?" I don't know what to make of all of it except that she maybe promoted him to lead stylist based on his talent and their friendship and her emotional connection to him.

 

Whatever it was that got him so elevated, I think we could all agree that his existence on this planet would not even be known to us if Rene were still alive. He dumped her band of 20+ years probably because he did not want her put in a similar type of situation we are seeing now where people can get close to her, play to her emotions, and nonchalantly guilt her into doing something for them (like becoming part of her styling team). Did we see a social media post of any kind at the time thanking her band for their service? No. Mego even appeared on live tv and they still did not address it. This "inner circle" of amateurs would not even be a thought in our minds today under Rene's direction. I get the need to surround herself with younger people who will help her continue to be relevant but all of this just does not sit well with me. Law was her stylist and did far better work in my opinion and we did not see this type of relationship between them so clearly this guy has more influence than we think...enough to get access to her social media.

[Smart17]

 

 

I was hyperbolizing not putting words in your mouth. The way you stated it seemed like it was a blasphemy. You came off defensive over the fact that I had compared Pepe and Rene, but if you go back and read my post I said Rene was her partner in everything whereas Pepe works for her, in other words he isn't at the same level as him. One of the sources in the article was the one that said he had taken Rene's place if I remember well, not me.

But also to say that Celine would leave her friendship all because she has a new romantic relationship is odd. If she abandons her platonic relationships all for a new man well that would point to an unhealthy relationship imo.

 

I get it if some can't assimilate Celine becoming close with Pepe in what seems like a short time. It never hurts to be cautious about people's intentions, especially when it's about someone as famous as she is, but this complete dislike and almost hate for him when he hasn't done anything is extreme.

 

Maybe try looking at things from a different perspective. She's talked about how he helped her emotionally and was good for her mental health. She goes out to new places she had never been to before, he's showing her different things, we see her hanging out with groups of friends (I still consider myself a new fan but I don't think I've ever seen pics of her with friends in the past), he thanks her at the end of every tour run or fashion week, he's taken the time to see her Vegas show around 5 times when he doesn't have to, he follows Celine fan accounts. He has shown nothing but being a supportive friend to her.

thank you for your opinion. Does it happen to you sometimes to not like somebody for no specifics reasons? Just a feeling...Do I have to have a legitimate reason? And it surely not because he is gay! I don’t « hate »him! That would be extreme. I just don’t like him. That’s All! English is not my first language, sorry if I am not precise. And it is not easy saying what we think on this forum without being insulted. Not you, you explained your position politely!

[AdrienneM]

Imagine people being THIS BOTHERED over a statement made by her publicists that people who havent posted in years are coming back to besmirch her name and her team for... this?!?!. This is foolery at its finest

[maki_Dion-er]

thank you for your opinion. Does it happen to you sometimes to not like somebody for no specifics reasons? Just a feeling...Do I have to have a legitimate reason? And it surely not because he is gay! I don’t « hate »him! That would be extreme. I just don’t like him. That’s All! English is not my first language, sorry if I am not precise. And it is not easy saying what we think on this forum without being insulted. Not you, you explained your position politely!

 

It has happened to me, and I think everyone experiences this. In the end sometimes my gut feeling has turned out to be right and other times it's been wrong. When I've been wrong about the person it was because I was either projecting feelings onto them or judging them before knowing them. Now, we obviously can't get to know someone we don't see in person which is why I think one cannot say anything concrete about people online. It's so easy and we see it all the time with people creating an image or opinion about celebrities, it's also why celebrities can a lot of times be subject to online bullying.

 

But not to get too away from the topic. As I said, I can understand being unsure of him but we don't really know him, and the people who do know him love him, starting with Celine. So, idk, either everyone around Celine is out to cause her harm by supporting him or maybe he's not so bad.