Celine and Pepe

[AdrienneM]

People are really comparing Pepe to Selenas murderer and almost no one batted an eye lid... i have no words

[fred]

Well not "people", one fan did. Please chill. Have you gotten the same dose of drama queen manners as "the inner circle" now?

 

People are really comparing Pepe to Selenas murderer and almost no one batted an eye lid... i have no words

Edited August 1, 2019 at 09:15 AM by fred

[Ajax]

Well not "people", one fan did. Please chill. Have you gotten the same dose of drama queen manners as "the inner circle" now?

 

Who is doing the drama? who is calling for conspiracy, choosing words like if your mother was being attacked, feeling worried for someone you don't even know. Being extreme in a world where a buzz chase another one every 5 hours and already no one care about the initial Page Six article as well as Celine's team statement ? Honnestly.

[Dancing_Queen]

This board is just...too much sometimes...

[Tom_London_Fan]

This “rumour” was getting about as far as a paper aeroplane. Now after that unconventional social media post...it’s got the Boeing-747 treatment.

 

I appreciate the sentiment, but not pandering to tabloids has served Celine quite well with a non-scandalous career for nearly 40 years. I don’t see why it should change now.

[AdrienneM]

Well not "people", one fan did. Please chill. Have you gotten the same dose of drama queen manners as "the inner circle" now?

 

Oh im sooooo sorry. And i find it incredibly ironic that people who are creating there own personal conspiracy theories such as yourselves, being up in arms over a statement made by her team which doesn’t affect you at all and has some of you calling for her team to be fired and some just spewing hate towards Pepe. Id reserve drama queen for yourselves for being this dramatic over something as basic as this

[sarit_celine]

Can we all please let others to express themself?

 

I might not agree many times but I find it useless to react toward a member

knowing most of the members only want Celine's best.

 

Some do tend to react with emotions but no doubt it comes from a caring and good place.

 

All the "hard feelings" going on here lately hopefully will disappear once the Tour starts...

[celine angelil]

 

 

This is isn't about protecting his ego. If that were the case they'd release a statement anytime someone criticized his or Sydney's fashion choices for Celine.

"Dear, Pepe

You're doing great sweety, don't listen to them they can't see how creative you are.

XOXO"

 

lol

 

 

This is about defending the reputation of someone. But, also very important, they are showing that Celine's team is united. And do you think Celine really doesn't know about this? Her brother is one of the people that signed this letter. Maybe there was a better way to do this but it's not that big a deal imo.

I for one do feel a little bad for Pepe because the media has been talking about him nonstop since he became friends with her. Their closeness put him and their relationship constantly in the spotlight even if they don't want it like that. Maybe at first they didn't mind it but now it might be getting to much, especially when it's started to take a more negative and damaging turn.

 

EDIT: I love how they signed in alphabetical order

 

They could also say:

 

Dear f*cking lucky Pepe to work with celine,

 

Grow a pair. You live the dream of many Celine fans.

Solve your own problems.

[sarit_celine]

They could also say:

 

Dear f*cking lucky Pepe to work with celine,

 

Grow a pair. You live the dream of many Celine fans.

Solve your own problems.

 

Reading the letter felt like it's about kids in the kindergarden.

[isurrender]

We don’t really know what’s happening in Céline’s team.

 

Nothing. Lol

 

We have the summer student who digged out old videos for YouTube and 10 other people who gathered to put some words together for a statement.

 

 

That is what is happening in Céline's team. Lol

[Céline RO]

While I really don’t give a **** about this whole press situation, I want to share my opinion on a few things.

 

I honestly think the whole renaissance of Céline did not happen because of someone influencing her (not Aldo, not Law, not Pepe). I think it is because Céline found strength, freedom and a way to continue her career and life after René’s death. So I think it is mostly thanks to her.

 

I also think the reason why Pepe quickly became this close to her is because when she hired him as a dancer for the 2017 tour she wanted to quickly make him feel like part of the family so she was extra kind to him and let him join her everywhere to show that she cared.

 

Of course, I would have preferred for René to still be alive and her manager and for her to still be the same but I certainly prefer a new reborn Céline than her ending her career because of his death.

[joaofilho]

Their relationship we'll never know, I don't understand why people are still bothered by him, they're friends, friends hang out together, talk, dance, they're good friends.

Now if pepe is influencing Celine in a negative way, we don't know, I believe that's not true.Their relationship we'll never know, I don't understand why people are still bothered by him, they're friends, friends hang out together, talk, dance, they're good friends.

Now if pepe is influencing Celine in a negative way, we don't know, I believe that's not true.

[idroveallnight]

 

 

Oh im sooooo sorry. And i find it incredibly ironic that people who are creating there own personal conspiracy theories such as yourselves, being up in arms over a statement made by her team which doesn’t affect you at all and has some of you calling for her team to be fired and some just spewing hate towards Pepe. Id reserve drama queen for yourselves for being this dramatic over something as basic as this

 

Like I said, we have the right to be worried as fans of someone who is so precious and important to us. It’s not being dramatic, it’s called being concerned...and we come to this space to share our concern with others who feel the same. It’s good to read differing perspectives because it gives you balance...but there’s no need to label people because they express what they feel. Just state your opinion and move on.

[scielle]

I'm done. If even Scielle, my mentor on this forum , is asking herself why isn't she going out with Scott....And so on... Well, indeed she NEVER did that, NEVER.

 

I'm asking why she's not going out with Scott?

Don't think so.

 

I'm merely pointing out she's clearly closer to her glam squad than her musicians. And it's fine. But it's a choice that's indicative of where her heart is at.

 

I think this tweet response is being blown way out of proportion by fans. It's not a big deal, and this story will die down by the end of the week. Ofc media outlets are picking it up because people love drama, but I think "Celine & team defend her friend" is a better headline than "her boy toy is manipulating her".

 

Oh, sure, story will blow over and it's not a big deal.

But the story, or even Pepe, are not the issue here.

The concern is her team's poor judgement in that response.

 

I appreciate the sentiment, but not pandering to tabloids has served Celine quite well with a non-scandalous career for nearly 40 years. I don't see why it should change now.

 

Exactly.

It's a slippery slope and this reaction is not a good precedent.

Edited August 1, 2019 at 01:05 PM by scielle

[Jeanette]

While I really don’t give a **** about this whole press situation, I want to share my opinion on a few things.

 

I honestly think the whole renaissance of Céline did not happen because of someone influencing her (not Aldo, not Law, not Pepe). I think it is because Céline found strength, freedom and a way to continue her career and life after René’s death. So I think it is mostly thanks to her.

 

I also think the reason why Pepe quickly became this close to her is because when she hired him as a dancer for the 2017 tour she wanted to quickly make him feel like part of the family so she was extra kind to him and let him join her everywhere to show that she cared.

 

Of course, I would have preferred for René to still be alive and her manager and for her to still be the same but I certainly prefer a new reborn Céline than her ending her career because of his death.

 

Agreed - the ‘Dionaissance’ was definitely her own doing. Purely because the media and public finally took note of her during her grieving process and how she has handled it with so much strength and dare I say it, without being cheesy, ‘courage’ lol

 

In hindsight after my previous post, I do also feel that she feels extremely protective of Pepe knowing that their friendship had thrust him into the limelight almost overnight which is why this has been handled in this manner and commented on at all. However, I believe they could’ve avoided a lot of the media attention in the first place by not parading around the streets of Paris and everywhere always together, arm in arm etc. I’m not saying because she’s Celine, she shouldn’t do this but the friendship could’ve been a lot more private and discreet, as she’s always been. This is where I struggle with Pepe’s real intentions. It’s like he’s perceiving himself to Celine to be some poor quiet normal person who doesn’t like this new found fame and attention but his actions suggests someone very different who’s actually thriving on this attention and if I’m honest who can really blame him!!

 

It’s a difficult situation I guess, as would be the same if she was to meet a new love.

Edited August 1, 2019 at 01:02 PM by Jeanette

[Ajax]

I'm asking why she's not going out with Scott?

Exactly.

It's a slippery slope and this reaction is not a good precedent.

 

Well I clearly don't agree from the beginning. I find their response appropriate and love the fact that the team is taking the mic to adress that no, no one is manipulating them. We never saw in the past this king of accusation and we don't know how her past team would have adressed that. Clearly, I prefer seeing her team making this soft and discret statement than how René was handling the media backstage which was way more reprehensible and prejudicial to Céline in my opinion. And same, I prefer reading that Celine's team is standing strong on the tabloids rather than a toy boy is abusing her and her team.

 

Finnally, Pepe's bashing has quite been strong since several month now. She already adressed that she was feeling bad and guilty for putting him in the spotlight and that it was hard for him. Now that it includs her AND her team, I guess this time, she felt it crossed the line. And I can totally relate to that.

 

At the end, I can totally understand that we have here 2 teams, the one that think they shouldn't have communicated, and the other one that think they should. I'm clearly team one, responding to rumors is always bad. And still this time, for the reason above, and because of the way they did it, I liked it. I liked seeing Yves, Dave, Denis joining the new generation in one united voice and adress that. I felt such a strong energy. I thought it was smart and classy, she let her people adressing it. They know look as a strong team. That's what I felt.

 

Clearly that's not what bothers me, what bothers me is people taking benefit from that to say that she is a mess since Pepe while factually she has never looked as much as an artist. Céline was an housewives with a beautifull voice for the last 15 years. She is finally turning into an artist. Even a polarized artist and f*** that is so good.

[fred]

Not sure what conspiracy theories I am coming up with... I am mostly careful posting things I have no clue about adding things like "I get the IMPRESSION" and "I hope I am wrong" and not stating the theories as absolute truths. But I guess that can be easy to miss when one looks for reasons to be uspet and attack somone for.

 

I do find some of your posts interesting. But the frequency of posts in which you need to attack other members, putting them down and correct them in some sort of sense of regiousness is getting quite tiresome.

 

And before you say it - it's ok to block me. Could benifit us both: you don't have to read "conspirasy theories" = opinions/concerns, and I don't have to be attacked and corrected.

 

 

 

Oh im sooooo sorry. And i find it incredibly ironic that people who are creating there own personal conspiracy theories such as yourselves, being up in arms over a statement made by her team which doesn’t affect you at all and has some of you calling for her team to be fired and some just spewing hate towards Pepe. Id reserve drama queen for yourselves for being this dramatic over something as basic as this

[chocolatechip15]

 

 

As have countless - far worse - rumors about her and Rene over the years. And yet this is the one they choose to address with a public statement?

 

She’s generally been much more active on social media in the last couple of years than she ever was before. When Rene was accused, they were under a court order not to talk about it. And when the case was over, I think they made a strategic decision to act like it had never happened. (Was it even in the Germain biography of Rene? I don’t remember).

 

As for the other rumors, she used to be interviewed constantly, and would end up answering questions about them. Now she does substantive interviews almost never, especially in English. I guess the last one was James Corden, but that was mostly silliness. I feel like nowadays, she does maybe one real interview every year or two, if that. There’s just not the same opportunity to address rumors. So this doesn’t seem so weird to me.

Edited August 1, 2019 at 02:01 PM by chocolatechip15

[scielle]

Can we stay away from personal attacks please,before this becomes another thread that gets closed? 🙏

 

Can we please just have a healthy debate?

This has been an interesting one and I appreciate reading everyone's options. This is really the only place online where we can have a long-form Celine discussion. Let's not let it degenerate.

[AdrienneM]

Not sure what conspiracy theories I am coming up with... I am mostly careful posting things I have no clue about adding things like "I get the IMPRESSION" and "I hope I am wrong" and not stating the theories as absolute truths. But I guess that can be easy to miss when one looks for reasons to be uspet and attack somone for.

 

I do find some of your posts interesting. But the frequency of posts in which you need to attack other members, putting them down and correct them in some sort of sense of regiousness is getting quite tiresome.

 

And before you say it - it's ok to block me. Could benifit us both: you don't have to read "conspirasy theories" = opinions/concerns, and I don't have to be attacked and corrected.

 

“Attacked”, please. We are grown adults on a forum about a singer we like. If someone states an opinion you disagree with, thats fine thats their opinion, but as soon as someone disagrees and presents their own in a more direct manor, theyre attacking people. And please “frequency of posts” 90% of my posts are positive in general. Cant say the same for others who go into most every single thread and put negative things down and argue with those who see positives. I guess on here there is no such thing as healthy debates or keeping it about celine, rather than personal jabs or insinuations. But im done “arguing” with a brick wall. Good day

Edited August 1, 2019 at 02:05 PM by AdrienneM

[scielle]

 

She is finally turning into an artist. Even a polarized artist and f*** that is so good.

 

Exactly. And I love seeing it and look forward to that being reflected in her music.

And Pepe certainly had a hand in that, as did Law, and Naomi, and I'm sure Scott and Sydney and others, too.

But mostly, I think it's Celine.

I think Rene's illness made her realize life's short and she's got to seize every moment and try everything she always wanted to try but for one reason or another, never did. I love that she's sticking to her guns and saying "F it. If you don't like it, move on."

 

[scielle]

Céline was an housewives with a beautifull voice for the last 15 years. She is finally turning into an artist. Even a polarized artist and f*** that is so good.

 

P.S. It saddens me to see the reactions to her Harper's Bazaar post on IG. Seems a lot of people have a problem with the artist and prefer the housewife.

[Javito]

P.S. It saddens me to see the reactions to her Harper's Bazaar post on IG. Seems a lot of people have a problem with the artist and prefer the housewife.

 

What are they saying??

[Ajax]

P.S. It saddens me to see the reactions to her Harper's Bazaar post on IG. Seems a lot of people have a problem with the artist and prefer the housewife.

 

Clearly, that's also the case of many members here and I'm realising it. It saddens me also. I understand where it comes from but still.

Even worst, it looks like the only thing that would please those guys is Céline to gain some weight. At this point it's not even about music against fashion or I don't know what, but just about body shaming and the fact that Celine aesthetic doesn't fit what is considered as a norm. Hope she will stick to her boldness and freedom, she's really doing something strong here, also for women in general.

[AdrienneM]

 

 

What are they saying??

 

Shes gone too far, she needs to put weight on, shes changed after Renes death, Rene would never have let her do this, shes lost it.... basically the same mess angry conservatives make on her Facebook posts all the time

[Katie]

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Suzanne is it Suzanne Guingue and Sylvue, Sylvie Beauregard

 

It's been years I have not ssen them around Céline

 

And who is Lina?

[empress]

I do not find it strange that she is closest with those that she spends most of her professional time with. Dressing and undressing a person is an extremely personal thing. Being with anyone, in close quarters, for an extended period of time makes them somewhat of a confidante and friend. So what if Pepe is her BFF. I'm glad she is happy. Glad she is dancing. Glad she is free to engage in fashion as well as continue her wonderful singing career. She has worked hard and may do as she pleases. I DO find it a little strange that her "inner circle" chose to respond to ridiculous rumors, but none of us know the true circumstances behind that decision. It is done. It will pass. Can't wait for the new English album!!

[incognito]

Apparently delicate flower Pepe has been blocking people on Instagram who said nothing more than “I don’t see the need to post this to defend Pepe. Nobody really knows who Pepe is”. No insults. And the delicate flower blocks people. Laughable.

[AdrienneM]

Apparently delicate flower Pepe has been blocking people on Instagram who said nothing more than “I don’t see the need to post this to defend Pepe. Nobody really knows who Pepe is”. No insults. And the delicate flower blocks people. Laughable.

 

That could easily be taken as an insult. Especially when the people posting that most certainly know who he is. Its also being left under a post for someone who must’ve felt a type of way about the lies being spread about them, i know if i had rumours spread about me and peoples responses to people defending me was “who cares we dont know who that is”, id feel very upset. Regardless of knowing someone or not, there’s something called compassion

[sarit_celine]

Nice interview of him in Spanish.

https://smoda.elpais.com/moda/actualidad/pepe-munoz-estilista-celine-dion/