LVCeline Posted January 20, 2012 at 01:24 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 01:24 AM This new album has sure polarized fans! There's a lot of disappointment and negativity and we don't really know very much about it yet, which in itself is frustrating. I see the points made and can agree with both sides for sure. I just hope that when it finally does come out, it will be amazing and we will all be thrilled that all the worrying was for no reason.
J-Man Posted January 20, 2012 at 02:51 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 02:51 AM In terms of covers, it is frustrating that the powers that be have such a fascination for including covers on her english albums. This is never a problem with her French stuff. Which always confuses me. If she likes singing covers so much, then why isn't she peppering her French albums with them? Basically i think because they are carefully stuctured, less about the producer, more about the composer and follow more of a creative theme. Who is the person/persons responsible for these type of decisions in her francaphone career and why are they not making the same choices when it comes to the English albums? Right now the lack of direction and artistic vision for this album is very evident. Hopefully it is just a lack of proper info being given out. But while the info we have so far isn't going to give any fans a wet dream, you can't compare it to Paris Hilton's recording debut for pity's sake! This is Celine Dion. It's still going to be a beautifully performed selection of songs. And her show is not filled with random crap. I think that 60% of the show is absolutely fabulous. The first 20 minutes alone are outstanding.By the time she leaves the stage after singing the IACBTMN/TPOL medley I was emotionally drained. (And thats coming from someone who never wanted to hear TPOL again in concert, how wrong was I) The lowpoints for me are the hologram segments. These I could do without. Though I do love Daveys idea of Celine singing with a younger version of herself! http://www.powerofthemusic.com/other/FORUMSIG1.png
Jeffieboi Posted January 20, 2012 at 04:01 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 04:01 AM Hahahahaha.. So I prefer the FIRST one, sorry guys but I prefer to hear new things, even if they are covers... I can't understand what's the problem with this cover thing... What I think it's more important for this next album and it's what I hope, it's that she should start to choose songs that she REALLY feels. What I mean is that I will always prefer if she sings something like At Seventeen (that means something special for her) more than if she sings A World to believe In (for me a very silly song full of emptyness, perfect for a benefic show with a lot of children carrying balloons of colours. Please, stop this kind of hymn songs and just get some serious...) If what she wants is to sing some classic covers because she feels what they talk about or she likes how she sounds on it, just perfect. Do all that covers, it's going to sound perfect if that what you really want to sing forgetting what "fans" want to hear or the people are demanding. If this album have things like At Seventeen, Mr. paganini, Linda Perry's songs, some jazz covers and original songs written for her like My Love, A song for You , The Reason, Why oh Why, Have you Ever been in love and some Soul classic style like Winehouse last album (postume one) or something like Adele, I would love the album. If the album has new material like Fade Away, One Heart, Eyes on Me and all that "supposedly modern pop songs" that try to be Shakira, J-Lo or Justin Bieber... I would not like the album and I would not listen to it and I will wait to the other one to see if something changes... and that's it. We are a lot of fans so she is not going to please anybody.. and she don't have to... One way or another she will win or lost some hard fans.... Fade Away is my favorite song from TC!!! I honestly can't see any of the 3 singers you mentioned singing that song. Just because a song is upbeat, doesn't mean it still can't be Celine's. Unrelated but....am I the only one who would lurve to hear her record, or at least perform "The Edge Of Glory"?
zuv Posted January 20, 2012 at 04:05 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 04:05 AM (edited) @J-Man I don't think we can compare her French career with her English career. and it wasn't so difficult to find original songs for her french albums when you think about it... 3 of her biggest French albums were written entirely by the same guy. They pretty much gave him "carte blanche" to write anything he wanted, everytime. Even if they are original songs, it was still a pretty "lazy" process. They didnt have to think much cause they knew Jean-Jacques Goldman would deliever. D'elles was a concept album. They told specific women: "Write a song for celine" and they did. And Celine had to take whatever she was given. And she did her best to make those songs look great.... They are great songs, but theres huge difference in the quality of the lyrics when you compare them to Goldman's songs. IMO and Celine Chante Plamondon was pratically just covers...So.... Oh and Eddy Marney wrote pretty much all of her songs when she was really young. Which is a similar process/situation to JJG. and they're doing the same thing again with the next French album: they are putting their entire faith and trust on plamondon. Not so difficult for Celine and René. I believe making English albums is a much bigger and complex process. Specially trying to find the best original songs. They must be flooded with originals. which one to choose? I don't think they will ever give "carte blanche" to just one writer in english and ask him/her to write an entire album. idk Edited January 20, 2012 at 04:17 AM by zuv
RRphantom Posted January 20, 2012 at 05:50 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 05:50 AM thank God she worked with Babyface again!Does anybody can tell whoelse in the pic?
Carina Posted January 20, 2012 at 06:30 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 06:30 AM How many tracks is going to be on the new album? 14-16? If this duet with Placido is going to be on the album, which I'm sure it would, it should be a bonus track. Elke begin is moeilik. Duitse gesegde
ferjaacu Posted January 20, 2012 at 08:25 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 08:25 AM (edited) Davey, the second setlist you posted would be great, but maybe it doesn't say anything about how Celine's feeling right now The lyrics from Lullaby are not the same that in My Precious One, she sings about something different there... Same about TLBSEPT and NMQTP... So, why is that you think these are just random songs they've chosen and not actually songs that represents Celine's mood nowadays?? If it was really a random choice, they could have chosen songs that didn't have to do with her at all, don't you think?Many of you have said that because the show's name is "Céline" there should be more of her original recorded songs in it and not covers because "we the fans want to hear those songs being performed at least once". But, again, the show is called "Céline", not "Céline Singing Only What Some Fans Wants To Hear" or "Celine Going Back In Time" either. Many has also stated that she's robotic singing when she sings TPOL or MHWGO. But, wouldn't you also think that maybe she doesn't feel for some songs the same that she felt when she first recorded them?? And that by singing them just to please us it would also be "robotic singing" and maybe meaningless??? Maybe she still feels something when singing TPOL, MHWGO, LCMM or ABM, maybe she doesn't, but WE CAN'T MAKE ANY ASSUMPTIONS OUT OF OUR OPINIONS. That's what many here are doing. That's what we shouldn't do. We can talk about possibilities, and about our OPINIONS of course (because this is a forum), but we can't assure how she's feeling or what she's thinking cause we would never really know. Maybe she fakes all the crying-my-heart-out when singing NMQTP, but then again, maybe she actually feel it and is giving us her heart by performing it. Don't you care more about that than just listening to the songs YOU love or ONLY ORIGINAL SONGS instead??? Don't you think that's what could actually turn her into a "karaoke singer"??? Many of you like to compare Celine with others stating that she's the only one recording and preforming covers. Let's do it, ok?? Christina Aguilera, a big name in music industry, songwriter and a very young artist, has also performed and recorded many covers (even when she was famous already, just like with Celine). Mariah Carey... She has also recorded many covers when she was a big name already, and even many of them have been hits (like Without You, Against All Odds, Open Arms). The biggest song in Whitney Houston's career (even thou she was a big name already), IWALV, is a cover. She's recorded many other covers too, like YLOML, ASFY, etc. Aretha Franklin has recorded many covers, including Beatle's songs like Eleanor Rigby. Madonna has done covers too. Beyonce, Alicia Keys. Ok, they may not have recorded as many covers as Celine has, but they actually write most of their songs and still do covers. So, it's even worst (according to you) on those cases !!! My point is that we need to remember that we did not became fans of Celine just because of her "original songs" or "cover songs" but because we believed in her when she was singing those songs and because we can appreciate a great voice when we hear it and she's got the best one. Now, if what you're trying to say is that you don't feel what she's singing when she sings the covers she's doing in the show, that's ok, but it doesn't mean that you'll feel the same with any other cover she could record. Edited January 20, 2012 at 08:26 AM by ferjaacu http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/5786913948_369265dbeb_m.jpg FERLO
Celine Fan 77 Posted January 20, 2012 at 09:15 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 09:15 AM She'll probably include the MHWGO duet in the new English album just like the original version was featured on both the Titanic Soundtrack and LTAL. Tournée Européenne in Paris (December 1, 2013) Céline Dion Live 2016 in Antwerp (June 20, 2016) Céline Dion Live 2017 in Birmingham (July 27, 2017) Céline Dion à Paris (September 12, 2026)
stevo Posted January 20, 2012 at 09:16 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 09:16 AM Celine is having a great time- she sounds better than she has in a long time, looks so incredibly beautiful. Her career isn't over- she has 14 month old twins- she'll surprise us again. Everyone keep calm and prepare to enjoy another lovely album...
fred Posted January 20, 2012 at 09:37 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 09:37 AM So, why is that you think these are just random songs they've chosen and not actually songs that represents Celine's mood nowadays?? If it was really a random choice, they could have chosen songs that didn't have to do with her at all, don't you think?Many of you have said that because the show's name is "Céline" there should be more of her original recorded songs in it and not covers because "we the fans want to hear those songs being performed at least once". But, again, the show is called "Céline", not "Céline Singing Only What Some Fans Wants To Hear" or "Celine Going Back In Time" either. Many has also stated that she's robotic singing when she sings TPOL or MHWGO. But, wouldn't you also think that maybe she doesn't feel for some songs the same that she felt when she first recorded them?? And that by singing them just to please us it would also be "robotic singing" and maybe meaningless??? This is a really good point your making here! Also on the cover topic. People are way overreacting, sorry to say. I'll say it again: it's not that you cover but HOW you cover that is the deal. Besides I just learned today that the wonderful new song by Amy Winehouse is a cover. The legendary Julie London had already recorded it for example. But that wasn't something I knew - even though I am quite familiar with many evergreens - untill i youtubed Winehouse's Our Day Will Come and found out many had recorded it before her. /fred Peace and love to all.
Davey84 Posted January 20, 2012 at 09:54 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 09:54 AM Fer, I've seen the show, I loved it! I was absolutely in AWE when I saw it! I do agree that some of the songs reflects Céline's mood at that moment. My point is though, that she sings so many non Céline songs in this show, while it's such a shame! It makes me believe that Celine and her own team don't have any faith in the songs (may it be original or even a cover) she has recorded over the years. The last originial Celine concert was the FIY tour.... after that the originiality in songs is gone and the cover are taking over more and more. I believe for instance that D'eux is such an amazing and lasting album is because she performed 10 of the 12 tracks live, and we have those performances on an amazing CD/DVD.1F4T; 1 song during AND, got cut, 1 song ONLY during the first French concert of TCWTD'Elles; 1 song during the french TCWT concerts I know I've said this a 1000 times before, but tracks from new albums are rarely preformed during concerts anymore. Look at Madonna, when she does a tour, it's about the new album, not all about hits from over 15 years ago. Granted, Céline didn't have an album out when Celine started, but she was in showbusiness for 30 freaking years! The setlist I made, showed highlights out of those 30 years, touching only her own songs, of which she should be proud of. I mean; Prince wrote a song for you for crying out loud! I don't think Céline choose all the songs in Celine. Like NMQP, yes she does an amazing job, yes I love it, but the only french song in her show is not her own... POINT IS, I don't care what she records, though I'd prefer original songs, but most of all; THEY SHOULD BE PROUD OF THOSE SONGS, AND PERFORM THEM!!! What's the point of recording a new album, with let's say 10 covers of old classics, with OA and At 17, plus 4 new songs. BUT the only songs she keeps performing are OA and At 17, plus one new song, and all those other covers she does now.... Then I ask; why even bother recording songs, if you aint bothered to perform them... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
donpi86 Posted January 20, 2012 at 09:57 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 09:57 AM Fade Away is my favorite song from TC!!! I honestly can't see any of the 3 singers you mentioned singing that song. Just because a song is upbeat, doesn't mean it still can't be Celine's. Unrelated but....am I the only one who would lurve to hear her record, or at least perform "The Edge Of Glory"? Sorry, but you can't see any of those artist singing Fade Away because they wouldn't do it, they would do something better. I didn't mean to say Celine can not make upbeat songs, the problem is that they somehow, don't know how to do it, they never choose the right people to do it. Look Eyes on Me, how good it sounded when Will.I.am made some changes, do they made something with that new version? NO. For The Edge of Glory thing, yes, it would sound great in Celine, I always think about it. But they would change some lyrics just to sound like more cheesy.. hehehe. Whatever, I read in some reviews of born this way that they mentioned Celine Dion as a reference in some pop songs... but I have to say that I only think in a small inspiration and Ms. Gaga is much better in this thing of pop songs... Davey, the second setlist you posted would be great, but maybe it doesn't say anything about how Celine's feeling right now The lyrics from Lullaby are not the same that in My Precious One, she sings about something different there... Same about TLBSEPT and NMQTP... So, why is that you think these are just random songs they've chosen and not actually songs that represents Celine's mood nowadays?? If it was really a random choice, they could have chosen songs that didn't have to do with her at all, don't you think?Many of you have said that because the show's name is "Céline" there should be more of her original recorded songs in it and not covers because "we the fans want to hear those songs being performed at least once". But, again, the show is called "Céline", not "Céline Singing Only What Some Fans Wants To Hear" or "Celine Going Back In Time" either. Many has also stated that she's robotic singing when she sings TPOL or MHWGO. But, wouldn't you also think that maybe she doesn't feel for some songs the same that she felt when she first recorded them?? And that by singing them just to please us it would also be "robotic singing" and maybe meaningless??? Maybe she still feels something when singing TPOL, MHWGO, LCMM or ABM, maybe she doesn't, but WE CAN'T MAKE ANY ASSUMPTIONS OUT OF OUR OPINIONS. That's what many here are doing. That's what we shouldn't do. We can talk about possibilities, and about our OPINIONS of course (because this is a forum), but we can't assure how she's feeling or what she's thinking cause we would never really know. Maybe she fakes all the crying-my-heart-out when singing NMQTP, but then again, maybe she actually feel it and is giving us her heart by performing it. Don't you care more about that than just listening to the songs YOU love or ONLY ORIGINAL SONGS instead??? Don't you think that's what could actually turn her into a "karaoke singer"??? Many of you like to compare Celine with others stating that she's the only one recording and preforming covers. Let's do it, ok?? Christina Aguilera, a big name in music industry, songwriter and a very young artist, has also performed and recorded many covers (even when she was famous already, just like with Celine). Mariah Carey... She has also recorded many covers when she was a big name already, and even many of them have been hits (like Without You, Against All Odds, Open Arms). The biggest song in Whitney Houston's career (even thou she was a big name already), IWALV, is a cover. She's recorded many other covers too, like YLOML, ASFY, etc. Aretha Franklin has recorded many covers, including Beatle's songs like Eleanor Rigby. Madonna has done covers too. Beyonce, Alicia Keys. Ok, they may not have recorded as many covers as Celine has, but they actually write most of their songs and still do covers. So, it's even worst (according to you) on those cases !!! My point is that we need to remember that we did not became fans of Celine just because of her "original songs" or "cover songs" but because we believed in her when she was singing those songs and because we can appreciate a great voice when we hear it and she's got the best one. Now, if what you're trying to say is that you don't feel what she's singing when she sings the covers she's doing in the show, that's ok, but it doesn't mean that you'll feel the same with any other cover she could record. AMEN. Only one thing, I don't know if it is always but I have to tell you that the NMQP drama queen moment it's totally fake... I don't know if it is always, but she use a very logical trick from acting to cry. If you watch the videos carefully, you can notice that she never blinks, and that always makes you cry because the eyes get dirt, and then you put the right face and it seems you are hard feeling crying...
celinefanonline Posted January 20, 2012 at 10:10 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 10:10 AM oh ok if she fake the cry then how do u explain the choking voice in NMQP??? Courage don't you dare fail me now!
dj4celine Posted January 20, 2012 at 10:18 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 10:18 AM oh ok if she fake the cry then how do u explain the choking voice in NMQP??? She has perfected the art to a "T". Simple!
donpi86 Posted January 20, 2012 at 10:20 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 10:20 AM oh ok if she fake the cry then how do u explain the choking voice in NMQP??? Truly I have to explain you how easy must be to Celine or other singer just to choke her voice? If Divas are good in something it's in over acting their feelings... And I'm not saying she doesn't feel it, you have to be made of iron to sing such a beautiful song and don't get moved. But this performed it is a little bit over acting, but it is Ok, it is part of the show and I like it... Yo can see it that when she truly cries, she has to stop singing or she really chokes (Wonderful World the day her father died; My Love in the recording studio; Lullabye in LV rehearsals... )
Javito Posted January 20, 2012 at 10:36 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 10:36 AM Fer, I've seen the show, I loved it! I was absolutely in AWE when I saw it! I do agree that some of the songs reflects Céline's mood at that moment. My point is though, that she sings so many non Céline songs in this show, while it's such a shame! It makes me believe that Celine and her own team don't have any faith in the songs (may it be original or even a cover) she has recorded over the years. The last originial Celine concert was the FIY tour.... after that the originiality in songs is gone and the cover are taking over more and more. I believe for instance that D'eux is such an amazing and lasting album is because she performed 10 of the 12 tracks live, and we have those performances on an amazing CD/DVD.1F4T; 1 song during AND, got cut, 1 song ONLY during the first French concert of TCWTD'Elles; 1 song during the french TCWT concerts I know I've said this a 1000 times before, but tracks from new albums are rarely preformed during concerts anymore. Look at Madonna, when she does a tour, it's about the new album, not all about hits from over 15 years ago. Granted, Céline didn't have an album out when Celine started, but she was in showbusiness for 30 freaking years! The setlist I made, showed highlights out of those 30 years, touching only her own songs, of which she should be proud of. I mean; Prince wrote a song for you for crying out loud! I don't think Céline choose all the songs in Celine. Like NMQP, yes she does an amazing job, yes I love it, but the only french song in her show is not her own... POINT IS, I don't care what she records, though I'd prefer original songs, but most of all; THEY SHOULD BE PROUD OF THOSE SONGS, AND PERFORM THEM!!! What's the point of recording a new album, with let's say 10 covers of old classics, with OA and At 17, plus 4 new songs. BUT the only songs she keeps performing are OA and At 17, plus one new song, and all those other covers she does now.... Then I ask; why even bother recording songs, if you aint bothered to perform them... Amen, Davey! I think your (our) point is more than clear. It's just evident. It would be reasonable to include 30-40% of covers in a concert, and the rest made of your OWN repertoire, 60-70%. But it's totally a shame that the 70% of the show is made up of covers that have never been familiar to Céline's public. Some of you defend the current setlist saying that is CÉLINE's show, as if the public didn't count in any way. I can't disagree more!. What else can be a "Celine" show more than a concert where you expect to see her singing HER songs? The ones you find in her albums? It's something l-o-g-i-c-a-l I think! Do you ever stop and think that maybe Céline and René should be in our shoes, and think for a moment WHAT her fans would expect her to see in a Celine concert? What would be the natural answer? Yes, Celine Dion songs! Do we count in some way for them? Because I can't understand why some defend her so blindly in this matter, when they have never asked us what we want, not even ONE song chosen by the fans! Do the Celine Dion CD's, cassettes and singles that everyone here has bought sometime in your life mean something to you? The songs you have always listened from her, have you ever wished to see them performed live sometime? It's all about that in the end. We expect to see our favourite artist, our idol, to sing the songs you have listened her sing with every album she has released in her career, with every album YOU have purchased. Not a bunch of covers that are totally unrelated to us "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
celinemaniacaik Posted January 20, 2012 at 10:48 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 10:48 AM I'm at my class and my teacher doesn't know what I'm doing thats how ADDICTING this topic is!!! Anyways, I sure hope there are at least 16 tracks on the new album, and I'm sure Celine can fake cry, but we ALL know that she's a cry baby, so maybe she didn't fake cry, well, I hope so! http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwk66t4rhm1r2j3uro1_500.jpg Follow Me On TUMBLR: Celinedion4ever
Celine Fan 77 Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:01 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:01 AM Exactly, I don't really understand why the show is called Celine and there are not many Celine songs in it. When I first learnt that this was going to be the name of the show, I felt like, once the curtain opens, Celine's world starts, showcasing her hits and the songs that put her where she is now. I though it was going to be more a celebration of her career. But, I can't really remember exactly when, René said that their original idea was to bring the Taking Chances World Tour to Las Vegas as a Residency Show. When I first heard that, I felt more than disappointed, because it was like the inspiration was gone, no more innovation. So the show that we have now is way better than René's initial idea (I think he said that at some point during 2010). About the show being mainly made by covers, I have to say that when Celine made the announcement that the she was going to sing some of the songs she had always wanted to sing live but had never been able to do so, I went crazy because I though she was talking about her obscure material. But no, she meant her personal favorites, and not exactly from her repertoire. Guys, it's time to stand up and make René and Céline know this because they are doing what THE BELIEVE the fans want her to do. I know some members of this forum go to see her show often and maybe sometimes get the chance to meet René. What better opportunity to let him know what we think? Tournée Européenne in Paris (December 1, 2013) Céline Dion Live 2016 in Antwerp (June 20, 2016) Céline Dion Live 2017 in Birmingham (July 27, 2017) Céline Dion à Paris (September 12, 2026)
fred Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:15 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:15 AM (edited) They are NOT doing what they think the fans want! Chill with that. The show is simply about her showcasing her and songs that have touched her, songs she has listened to and been the sountrack to HER life. Why don't you guys get that? And yes it is sad that she neglects her albums when going on tour. The Taking Chances World Tour shouldn't be called that at all, but instead the My Love Greatest Hits World Tour. It's really a shame how quick they were to release another best of album just when about to go on tour. A best of is used to follow up a great come back or cover time when the artist is no longer releasing new material, not to cover up the tracks of a recent new album and kill that one totally. But she isn't on tour now. This show isn't named after her latest album. And yes it would be a great opportunity to sing those songs who never made it into the tour set lists. But it's clear that's not the way they want to go. They want to showcase songs which has meant something to her, not songs that have meant somethings for the fans. We must learn to accept that. That's the way it is. Otherwise we'll take that horrible step over the line we did when we practially forced her to change her hair back... now that was tragical we made her do that, fans. /fred Edited January 20, 2012 at 11:19 AM by fred Peace and love to all.
celinemaniacaik Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:18 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:18 AM I do not have ANY idea about the hair story........ http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwk66t4rhm1r2j3uro1_500.jpg Follow Me On TUMBLR: Celinedion4ever
celinemaniacaik Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:19 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:19 AM Oh yes and fred I agree with you! http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwk66t4rhm1r2j3uro1_500.jpg Follow Me On TUMBLR: Celinedion4ever
Davey84 Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:21 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:21 AM Otherwise we'll take that horrible step over the line we did when we practially forced her to change her hair back... now that was tragical we made her do that, fans. /fred What is horrible about us fans wanting our idol Céline, to sing songs of her own, that she picked throughout the years out of the 1000's new songs that were offered to her, that triggered her and made her want to record them for her albums? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
fred Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:38 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:38 AM (edited) What is horrible about us fans wanting our idol Céline, to sing songs of her own, that she picked throughout the years out of the 1000's new songs that were offered to her, that triggered her and made her want to record them for her albums? That's not what I aimed at directly Davey. Of course I agree with you that it would be above wonderful to hear tracks such as Us performed live. But I think, oddly as it may seem, that Céline is actually trying to take a huge step towards expressing herself with this show. She's singing songs that's meant something to her. If you forget her amazing career for a while. What's the first step an artist in the making does? Sings songs that they've listened to and that have moved them, from other artists. Then they start experimenting with creating material of their own. All her life Céline's had people serve her material to perform, songs that would showcase her voice or try to make her a "hip" artist. The songs themselves never came from her. Perhaps she's starting over. Going back to that stage. It would be a shame if we managed to interupt that process somehow. And the parallel I am doing with the hair issue is that when Céline cut her hair she was experimenting with herself. It was practical for the show yes. But she wanted to reinvent her look. She was reaching out of the "cage" her image has built for her. And all we did was whined and demanded her to go back to the way she used to be. That's probably where they got the idea from that we the fans can't handle change and wants her to stay the way she's always been, singing the songs she has always sung or else WE would feel uncomfortable. They used that as an excuse you know. Was it Rene or her who said that so many things change in the lives of the fans that they (the fans) need her to stay as constant as possible? Now she sings covers yes, but at least the main focus isn't on her old booring standards we've heard so many times (yes they are there, but more like a "nessesary"thing). But try look beyond the cover fact. This is not about her doing songs that were great by others in attempt to make her great. This is about her doing songs that have touched her and she feels speaks something about her. So, yes again Davey I would really love to hear neglected material from her own reportoir. But perhaps she feels right now that they don't express that much of herself as these covers. If we whine more and show her we can't handle her sharing these songs with us this might once again be misinterpreted as proof of that we can't handle change, and force her back into the cage that is a tracklist full of her own standards sung so many times that they are drained from all feeling and soul. /fred Edited January 20, 2012 at 11:45 AM by fred Peace and love to all.
donpi86 Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:46 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:46 AM We are going a little bit off topic but I don't know, I never thought that the name Celine was going to suppose that she was going to sing the unknown songs of her repertoire. That name is because it is easier to recognice for the tourists in Vegas. It's simply. "Oh, there is a show.. it is called A New Day". "Yes, it is a Celine Dion Show with dancers and fx, something like Cirque du Soleil..." "Mmmm... Interesting...". Or: "Oh, there is a show... It is called Celine" "Yes, the Celine Dion Show" "Mmmm... Let's go...". But only in few cases: "Oh, there is a show, It is called Celine" "Yes, the Celine Dion show" Mmmm.. Let's go... I hope she sings that 1995 song Just Walk Away and more singles from her first era.. if not.. I will get dissapointed..." Let's talk about numbers: The Colosseum has 4.100 seats, 70 shows during 3 years: that's 861.000 seats to occupied. For example, in this forum we are like 30.000 members? I don't know... but How many of us live in US or have the money to expend in a LV trip... 10.000 members? 15.000? and what do they do with the others 845.000 seats during the three years (or the 5 years). What I'am trying to say is that we are not ALL the fans in the world and we can not pretend to control the Celine career. We only represent the 20% more or less of their market... Finally.. all this thing of LV is: "Let's go to see tonight Cerline, somebody told me that she do I wonderful cover of Mr. paganini, and her Michael Jackson's versions are so beautiful...". And the next logical point is: All that tourist in LV that went to see Celine performing returns home "Darling, I'm going to see if I find that At seventeen version in one of her albums... oh... no... I feel a little bit dissapointed.. I have been searching her last albums but I don't find it... only some other tipical ballads... " So conclusion: Some people will discover Celine, her albums, some will love her and some will feel that wasted their money, some will buy her new album because it contains a wonderful studio version of what they listened and by the way they will discover some new songs of the same type so, from this moment, they will love and buy all her next albums... Let's wait for the new english album, at least, I think this next months are going to be soooo interesting, I'm so excited!
celinedionfan1 Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:49 AM Posted January 20, 2012 at 11:49 AM I'm sick of this topic. I come her to read news about the new album, not interested in all the complaining. I myself is beyond excited about this new album! Celine live | December 30th & 31st, 2011 | January 3rd & 4th, 2012 | January 12th, 13th, 15th, 16th & 18th, 2013 | November 29th & 30th, 2013 | December 1st, 2013 | August 27th, 30th & 31st, 2015 | June 20th, 21st, 24th, 25th & 28th, 2016 | January 24th, 25th, 27th & 28th, 2017 | June 17th, July 8th, 23rd & 24th, 2017 |
JCeline85 Posted January 20, 2012 at 12:07 PM Posted January 20, 2012 at 12:07 PM I'm sick of this topic. I come her to read news about the new album, not interested in all the complaining. I myself is beyond excited about this new album! Well said! The Wait Is Over?
Celine Fan 77 Posted January 20, 2012 at 12:10 PM Posted January 20, 2012 at 12:10 PM It's true, let's try to focus on the album... Tournée Européenne in Paris (December 1, 2013) Céline Dion Live 2016 in Antwerp (June 20, 2016) Céline Dion Live 2017 in Birmingham (July 27, 2017) Céline Dion à Paris (September 12, 2026)
Carina Posted January 20, 2012 at 12:21 PM Posted January 20, 2012 at 12:21 PM Okay back to the album, I wonder what the cover is going to look like. Can't wait to see that..... Elke begin is moeilik. Duitse gesegde
Celine Fan 77 Posted January 20, 2012 at 12:38 PM Posted January 20, 2012 at 12:38 PM The photoshoot is something we haven't though of yet! My guess is that the pictures are going to showcase a classic and elegant stylized Celine, but at the same time young, like the shot for Let's Talk About Love. Tournée Européenne in Paris (December 1, 2013) Céline Dion Live 2016 in Antwerp (June 20, 2016) Céline Dion Live 2017 in Birmingham (July 27, 2017) Céline Dion à Paris (September 12, 2026)
Shamrock_1982 Posted January 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM Posted January 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM (edited) The photoshoot is something we haven't though of yet! My guess is that the pictures are going to showcase a classic and elegant stylized Celine, but at the same time young, like the shot for Let's Talk About Love. For the cover I think a full body shot of Celine in a dress similar to the first Vegas dress, or MHWGO dress from the UK leg of the tour, but the lighting is in such a way that you can't totally see all of her features ( like a spotlight can sometimes be used ) but done very artistically, with a great pose but very minimal in the background maybe one or two props or objects, and only have 2/3 colours used also like some modern professional photos are done now a days... edit: I always thought that that pose she did during MHWGO in A new day... where she curves her body and has her arm/hand posed above her in that way would be pretty cool, or something different like that. Edited January 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM by Shamrock29
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