New English Album - "Water and a Flame" (Pre-Release Thread Part 1)

[anewdayhascome]

yes i would rather she didn't do anything for the anniversary! the whole Titanic theme and MHWGO are so well-known that everybody knows them and there is no need of a duet version! a different version maybe but not a duet?!

[fred]

This is why I've been begging for her to let MHWGO rest. There's is really no point to try to make a revival if the song never been out of the spotlight.

 

People were fed up with this song 2000, now she's been promoting that song like it was her latest single since 1998 and gonna try and make a renaissance for it... Say what??

 

/fred

[celinesounds]

i'm afraid that My Heart Will Go On going to kill the whole new album

[zuv]

you guys are just too dramatic

 

she's having fun; let her have fun, she's sick and tired of that song; she found a loophole: she gets to sing just half of it now LOL

 

The movie is being release in 3D; do we need it? No. Do we need a new song? No. Its just to please the titanic fans and the song fans.... We already have 2 versions of Titanic with multiple live versions. Why not try to make things different a little bit for this 10th anniversary? i think a duet will sound great, maybe there will be new music too.

 

I'm glad they dare to make a duet out of MHWGO, i stopped listening to that song long long long time ago, it will be great to have something different.

Edited January 18, 2012 at 09:42 PM by zuv

[zuv]

You know what? i'm excited because we'll get to compare how her voice has changed since the past 10 yrs.

She never went back into a studio to record the same song twice with 10 years interval. Did she? (if you don't count the pre-recorded tracks for the shows)

[Cuquito]

you guys are just too dramatic

 

she's having fun; let her have fun, she's sick and tired of that song; she found a loophole: she gets to sing just half of it now LOL

 

The movie is being release in 3D; do we need it? No. Do we need a new song? No. Its just to please the titanic fans and the song fans.... We already have 2 versions of Titanic with multiple live versions. Why not try to make things different a little bit for this 10th anniversary? i think a duet will sound great, maybe there will be new music too.

 

I'm glad they dare to make a duet out of MHWGO, i stopped listening to that song long long long time ago, it will be great to have something different.

I'm totally agree with you!

[SarayDion]

she's having fun; let her have fun, she's sick and tired of that song; she found a loophole: she gets to sing just half of it now LOL

 

How funny!

 

Why not try to make things different a little bit for this 10th anniversary? i think a duet will sound great, maybe there will be new music too.

 

Althought, I believe all prefer the original version, also, I think , isn't look bad idea, a change for this classic! as you said "Why not try to make things different a little bit for this 10th anniversary".. Maybe this, can surprise us without losing the pure essence that has had the song in all these years. Let's wait!

[Cuquito]

The way I see this is that the woman despite being in Las Vegas, did and is doing other things, the Taking Chances tour, the film of the Tour that went up in theaters, had her babies and just four month later she was starting her show, the tv special... Now recording albums, covers or whatever but recording, media out here and there, private concerts and other things like this duet with Placido Domingo wich I think is gonna be very interesting and she is gonna win the attention of Spanish-language media. We have to admit that she is always working and even though she wants to sleep in the same bed every day and be with their children does not mean she have forgotten the rest of humanity. Come on, do not complain more for God sake!

[ferjaacu]

wow !! Thanks for the news Carlos and J-Man !!!

 

I agree with you zuv and Cuquito Even thou I also think the song is perfect in it's original version, it doesn't mean this will hurt it. Many people were asking for a new version of her signature songs, now that we're getting one they're saying she should leave those songs alone... Make up your mind guys !!! You wanted her to take chances?? Well, here you go !!! Peace !!!

[Javito]

Why can't they just leave well enough alone? Don't rework a classic. This would be like trying to remake the classic film Casablanca, it just wouldn't work.

 

Edit: There are some classics that can be reworked. But not ones that are etched in time as being titled "one of the greatest ever" This song almost didn't happen in the first place and ended up making a HUGE explosion. They should just leave it. It will never have that same impact as it did in 1997.

 

Maybe they're not looking the song to have such an impact, they're just doing it for fun

 

 

!!!!We continue toasting in the Spanish forum!!!!!

 

This is an unforeseen state of hapiness

 

Yes Saray, I'm so proud she's recording with a spanish singer, although not in spanish, but it will put Céline on the news in our country for sure!

[Alex_Incognito]

Why are people over-reacting?

This is a fantastic thing, I think.

They're not going to hear the legacy of the original release of the single. It's more of a celebration.

 

I'm just thrilled we'll get a (HOPEFULLY) new recording from Celine.

 

Get a grip, people!

[Javito]

Yes, I think its more about a celebration than anything else... I don't think they're trying to achieve anything with this duet version, but celebrating the re-release of a movie that made history and the 100th anniversary of the Titanic. It won't outshine Céline's original version from 1997!

[celine_rox]

I don't really like this whole duet idea for "My Heart Will Go On".

[zuv]

Exactly Alex! a CELEBRATION thats all.

 

she's not going to re-write histroy with this Duet! it would be a little bit foolish to think so. A success like celine had with MHWGO happens every decade or so; actually it didnt happen during the 2000s, i doubt it will ever happen again.

[Alex_Incognito]

EXACTLY!

People are acting as if they're deleting the original master that Celine recorded in 1997 and everyone's burning the CDs!

[Del]

EXACTLY!

People are acting as if they're deleting the original master that Celine recorded in 1997 and everyone's burning the CDs!

Wait.. you mean to tell me we didn't have to go out and burn our CD's with MHWGO on it. Sigh now I have to go buy them all over again. LOL

[ashtonelijah]

The reactions of the fans here to the news about a new version of My Heart Will Go On remind me of a story I once read:

 

One day, Céline Dion was sitting in a boat with several of her fans when one fan's hat fell in the water. Céline got out of the boat, walked across the water, and retrieved the hat.

 

The next day, the top thread at CelineDionForum.com read, "CÉLINE CAN'T SWIM!"

 

[smw]

EXACTLY!

People are acting as if they're deleting the original master that Celine recorded in 1997 and everyone's burning the CDs!

 

In my opinion, I just find it excessive for Celine to rerecord her signature song. It will cause a direct comparison of her voice then and her voice now. (Think Mariah Carey rerecording All I Want For Christmas Is You)And it's just another example of clipping her wings creatively.

 

Yes. We can look at things on a positive note: she's actually recording something new. But I still have higher hopes.

 

I hope you're well by the way!

[Alex_Incognito]

I don't think there will anything negative said about her current voice, as she's currently in great voice. I've never read any article saying that she had a vocal decline; it's just called changing as we age. It seems everyone else thinks she's as great as she always was, it's just the fans that can't be happy. If people are complaining about her voice at 43, I'm not looking forward to 53 and 63.

 

Plus, there's not one up and coming artist that can be compared to Celine.

 

 

I'm doing very well. I hope the same for you.

Edited January 19, 2012 at 03:35 AM by Alex_Incognito

[volleyceline]

When heather told me about this (i admit i wasnt happy either!) I knew there was gonna be rants like these on here but we should be grateful for anything she produces, we never know when it will be her last.

[Jeffieboi]

I know I don't post here often, but I have some comments and questions.

 

First....

 

I haven't read the entire thread (although I've been keeping up time to time for a few years (it seems this thread only recently became relevent)), but here's what I've gathered so far, please let me know if this is correct:

 

*There will be cover songs from her current stay in Vegas such as "At Seventeen" and "Open Arms"

*There will also be brand new songs as well (I actually found an article that a girl from some girl group was helping her)

*The album is due out April/May

*There is a French album due out later this year as well.

 

If anyone has any more or more accurate info...please specify.

 

 

I also have a comment to make, and I don't want to come off as an aggressive person...

 

 

I've seen a few complaints about how Celine is doing covers. First of all.....she's done that since the 80s. Not only that, but her version is always superior of course. When I found out she was covering "Alone", I was ecstatic! The best voice in the world, singing such an amazing song. It was a cover, but it was amazing! I don't even need to bring up "All By Myself" or even "It's All Coming Back To Me Now" which is not only a cover, but my favorite song ever in the entire world! It's how I was introduced to Celine back in 1996!

 

Anyway, I feel that too many members are being far too pessismistic. Recording covers isn't a bad thing. This is espeically true when you take into consideration that new songs are being written too. These new songs can absolutely be hits. Celine's era was the 90s. She was current, mainstream music. Everything she did was incredibly successful. Her perfection hasn't deminished, but like every mainstream artist....time passes. Look at the Beatles.....their time was the 60s. They were never current after that, but they always remained a stand out because of their career. But that doesn't mean these new songs can't still bring her back to her success in the 90s.

 

Let me make this clear.....

 

I'm not saying Celine's time has come and gone. God knows that plenty of divas have had hits after having a more under the radar career in terms of radio singles, but that's never the final nail in the coffin. Remember "Believe" by Cher? She was in her 50s at that time. Celine could easily do this as well. If only "Fade Away" was a properly promited single....it would have been huge. But what exactly do you want from Celine? Do you want to hear new music from her, or do you want OTHER people to hear new music from her? Who cares if it's a #1 single, I'm just glad I'm getting something, regardless of who hears it.

 

Finally....

 

No matter what, Celine has made herself a legend. As far as music entertainers go....she's the cream of the crop. She's part of the vocal trinity. That says a lot! Celine Dion, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey. That's the vocal trinity! It's so exclusive, that there are only 3 people. These 3 aren't just some random female singers....these are THE 3 singers! No one can deny these were all being spectacular voices. If Celine never has a #1 single again, that's okay. She made a hardcore mark in the music industry. As long as I've had a passion for her (which started 16 years ago now)....she's wanted to have children. Now that she finally has a whole bunch, can't we just be happy with that? Taking Chances (the album) may not have had a lot of airplay, but I really didn't care at all. I was so happy just to have a new album, and it was a damn good album at that! I don't care if the new album makes her as hot as Adele now....I'm just glad I get a new studio recording from her.

 

ETA....

 

I agree with Alex_Incognito. Her current voice is amazing! That's one of the reasons I'm so excited to hear something from her in the Studio. Open Arms would be an eargasm IMO.

Edited January 19, 2012 at 05:36 AM by Jeffieboi

[ashtonelijah]

I know I don't post here often, but I have some comments and questions.

 

First....

 

I haven't read the entire thread (although I've been keeping up time to time for a few years (it seems this thread only recently became relevent)), but here's what I've gathered so far, please let me know if this is correct:

 

*There will be cover songs from her current stay in Vegas such as "At Seventeen" and "Open Arms"

*There will also be brand new songs as well (I actually found an article that a girl from some girl group was helping her)

*The album is due out April/May

*There is a French album due out later this year as well.

 

If anyone has any more or more accurate info...please specify.

I also have a comment to make, and I don't want to come off as an aggressive person...

I've seen a few complaints about how Celine is doing covers. First of all.....she's done that since the 80s. Not only that, but her version is always superior of course. When I found out she was covering "Alone", I was ecstatic! The best voice in the world, singing such an amazing song. It was a cover, but it was amazing! I don't even need to bring up "All By Myself" or even "It's All Coming Back To Me Now" which is not only a cover, but my favorite song ever in the entire world! It's how I was introduced to Celine back in 1996!

 

Anyway, I feel that too many members are being far too pessismistic. Recording covers isn't a bad thing. This is espeically true when you take into consideration that new songs are being written too. These new songs can absolutely be hits. Celine's era was the 90s. She was current, mainstream music. Everything she did was incredibly successful. Her perfection hasn't deminished, but like every mainstream artist....time passes. Look at the Beatles.....their time was the 60s. They were never current after that, but they always remained a stand out because of their career. But that doesn't mean these new songs can't still bring her back to her success in the 90s.

 

Let me make this clear.....

 

I'm not saying Celine's time has come and gone. God knows that plenty of divas have had hits after having a more under the radar career in terms of radio singles, but that's never the final nail in the coffin. Remember "Believe" by Cher? She was in her 50s at that time. Celine could easily do this as well. If only "Fade Away" was a properly promited single....it would have been huge. But what exactly do you want from Celine? Do you want to hear new music from her, or do you want OTHER people to hear new music from her? Who cares if it's a #1 single, I'm just glad I'm getting something, regardless of who hears it.

 

Finally....

 

No matter what, Celine has made herself a legend. As far as music entertainers go....she's the cream of the crop. She's part of the vocal trinity. That says a lot! Celine Dion, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey. That's the vocal trinity! It's so exclusive, that there are only 3 people. These 3 aren't just some random female singers....these are THE 3 singers! No one can deny these were all being spectacular voices. If Celine never has a #1 single again, that's okay. She made a hardcore mark in the music industry. As long as I've had a passion for her (which started 16 years ago now)....she's wanted to have children. Now that she finally has a whole bunch, can't we just be happy with that? Taking Chances (the album) may not have had a lot of airplay, but I really didn't care at all. I was so happy just to have a new album, and it was a damn good album at that! I don't care if the new album makes her as hot as Adele now....I'm just glad I get a new studio recording from her.

 

ETA....

 

I agree with Alex_Incognito. Her current voice is amazing! That's one of the reasons I'm so excited to hear something from her in the Studio. Open Arms would be an eargasm IMO.

 

You should post more often. Then I might actually leave this site upbeat and excited after reading these threads when new news is announced. Sorry guys... But some of you are the biggest Debbie Downers I've ever met. lol

[Javito]

I've seen a few complaints about how Celine is doing covers. First of all.....she's done that since the 80s.

 

Yes, but the difference is that in the early 80's she was building a repertoire for her . She was making room for her in the industry and needed to be known singing popular songs. Today, in the 10's there's no need at all to keep recording (and especially promoting) covers with such a career like this one

 

Anyway, I feel that too many members are being far too pessismistic. Recording covers isn't a bad thing. This is espeically true when you take into consideration that new songs are being written too. These new songs can absolutely be hits.

 

Yes, but again, the main problem comes when they don't promote such new songs at all and they insist in presenting mainly the covers everywhere

[stevo]

Exactly. She's having fun. The show is about the songs (mostly) that she wanted to sing e.g. The Reason. The MHWGO duet will be spectacular. It's something fresh- as some people have said, a celebration of her biggest song of all time.

 

Celine loves performing, she loves recording- NO- she doesn't have the passion for being number 1, reaching the pinnacle. She's been there. She's at a great point in her career I think.

 

People who complain are only interested in her selling records and being on the charts- yes, she obviously wants people to enjoy her music, her shows, but she isn't and doesn't need to be interested in that endless chase for success.

 

BRING ON CELINE 2012!!!!

[Celine Fan 77]

Yes, but again, the main problem comes when they don't promote such new songs at all and they insist in presenting mainly the covers everywhere

 

I have no problem with that 'cause Celine always bring the songs to a new level, she has owned EACH AND EVERY SINGLE COVER she has recorded over the years. And people like it, so I think you worry that much about Celine recording mostly covers because you might want her to have her own repertoire, and that's ok, but I have no problem with her doing covers 'cause, like I said, she owns them. And people don't really know it's a cover in most of the cases because they don't even know the original versions.

[Davey84]

Of course Céline owns most of the covers she has done. BUT that doesn't mean she needs to stick with recording a lot of them and performing a lot like them...

 

Look at these setlists... Tell me which one you prefer and is a real CELINE show...

 

 

1. "Untitled Interlude I" (Video Introduction) (contains elements of "Roy Orbison/Cyndi Lauper")

2. "Celine sings Journey"

3. "Where Does My Heart Beat Now"

4. Medley: "Because You Loved Me" / " Celine sings Pandorra Box" / "Celine sings Jennifer Rush"

5. "Celine sings Ella Fitzgerald"

6. " Celine sings Billy Joel"

7. "The Reason"

8. "James Bond Theme" (Instrumental Interlude)

9. Medley: "Celine sings Shirley Bassey" / "Celine sings Carly Simon " / "Celine sings Paul McCartney"

10. "Celine sings Patti Austin and James Ingram" (Duet with a hologram version of Dion)

11. " Celine sings Stevie Wonder" (Virtual duet with Stevie Wonder)

12. " Celine sings Janis Ian"

13. "Beauty And The Beast" (Duet with Barnev Valsaint)

14. " Celine sings Jacques Brel"

15. " Celine sings Eric Carmen"

16. "Untitled IV" (Instrumental Interlude) (contains elements of "Smooth Criminal," "Billie Jean," and "Thriller")

17. " Celine sings Micheal Jackson"

18. " Celine sings Micheal Jackson "

19. "Declaration of Love" (Instrumental Interlude)

20. "Love Can Move Mountains"

21. " Celine sings Tina Turner"

22. "My Heart Will Go On"

 

OR

 

1. "Untitled Interlude I" (Video Introduction) (contains elements of "You and I")

2. "Then You Look At Me"

3. "Where Does My Heart Beat Now"

4. Medley: "Because You Loved Me" / "A New Day Has Come" / "A World To Believe In"

5. "Le Ballet"

6. "My Precious One"

7. "The Reason"

8. "Love Theme" (Instrumental Love Doesn’t Ask Why Interlude)

9. Medley: "Have you Ever Been In Love" / "The Colour Of My Love" / "Declaration Of Love"

10. "Chante Moi" (Duet with a hologram version of Dion)

11. "The Prayer" (Virtual duet with Andrea Bocelli)

12. "With This Tear" (written for her by Prince)

13. "Beauty And The Beast" (Duet with Barnev Valsaint)

14. "Tous Les Blues Sont Écrits Pour Toi"

15. "I Want You To Need Me"

16. "Untitled IV" (Instrumental Interlude) (contains elements of "Ne Partez Pas Sans Moi," "Mon Ami M’A Quittée," and "Une Columbe")

17. "D’amour ou D’amitié"

18. " Ce n’etait Qu’un Reve "

19. "Can’t Fight The Feeling" (Instrumental Interlude)

20. "Love Can Move Mountains"

21. "I’m Alive"

22. "My Heart Will Go On"

 

 

 

[Celine Fan 77]

Yeah well, of course I prefer the second setlist (specially because it has TYLAM and TLBSEPT!!) but let's face it, there's nothing we can do to change the way René handles his wife's career, so try to enjoy what we have.

[anewdayhascome]

all the people are bringing the same pro arguments all the time. We, who "complain", don't want her to sell 10000000000000 mln albums. It's not the whole point. Ok the show includes the songs she always wanted to perform. OK! but she doesn't have to record them or other covers especially after 5 years of drought!

And as for MHWGO, Celine said herself she is tired of it so why she records another version. Many people, not fans, are tired of it and I don't think it's wise to come back again with this song even as a duet or whatever. MHWGO should be left aside. She should just sing it in concerts for fans but general public is really even fed up with it. And changing the duet? It's a celebration? Are you serious? If it was so great the first time, it would work the second time too and we should celebrate the anniversary with the same song, it's the song that made that film not the duet? Celebratining is remembering the original, just sung live for instance, but not changing what is already perfect

Edited January 19, 2012 at 01:02 PM by anewdayhascome

[donpi86]

Hahahahaha.. So I prefer the FIRST one, sorry guys but I prefer to hear new things, even if they are covers... I can't understand what's the problem with this cover thing...

 

What I think it's more important for this next album and it's what I hope, it's that she should start to choose songs that she REALLY feels. What I mean is that I will always prefer if she sings something like At Seventeen (that means something special for her) more than if she sings A World to believe In (for me a very silly song full of emptyness, perfect for a benefic show with a lot of children carrying balloons of colours. Please, stop this kind of hymn songs and just get some serious...) If what she wants is to sing some classic covers because she feels what they talk about or she likes how she sounds on it, just perfect. Do all that covers, it's going to sound perfect if that what you really want to sing forgetting what "fans" want to hear or the people are demanding. If this album have things like At Seventeen, Mr. paganini, Linda Perry's songs, some jazz covers and original songs written for her like My Love, A song for You , The Reason, Why oh Why, Have you Ever been in love and some Soul classic style like Winehouse last album (postume one) or something like Adele, I would love the album. If the album has new material like Fade Away, One Heart, Eyes on Me and all that "supposedly modern pop songs" that try to be Shakira, J-Lo or Justin Bieber... I would not like the album and I would not listen to it and I will wait to the other one to see if something changes... and that's it. We are a lot of fans so she is not going to please anybody.. and she don't have to... One way or another she will win or lost some hard fans....

[browseceline]

I must say the rerelease won't sell like in the 90s for sure...but what if they really did something unexpected...

What if they did the arrangement like Sarah Brightman's version, that would have been interesting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmCyMow0ixs - If Celine will do it like this with Placido it will sound amazing. Not hitmaterial though and not extra selling the movie again, but you must admit that in this arrangement both singers could do a duet...

 

live version Sarah Brightman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jVbUtMEBZo...feature=related

 

 

and with Celine surrounded by a huge orchestra as in Vegas, they should have done the Vegas arrangement like this too!

(of course some semitone lower since this is too high for Celine to sing)

Edited January 19, 2012 at 01:37 PM by browseceline