CelineDionx Posted May 22, 2008 at 07:17 PM Posted May 22, 2008 at 07:17 PM Madonna CANT sing live!!!! nd shes getting a bit old to be jumping around like she does!! ..... wear some proper clothes"Madge"!!! Quote http://melodyplant.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/celine-dion.jpg
carlottazenere Posted May 22, 2008 at 07:26 PM Posted May 22, 2008 at 07:26 PM My God, have been away and now I see this topic is turned into a Céline vs Mariah live kindathing. Well, of course Céline is the better live artist, although she could never do the really high notes I love from Mariah. But Mariah is the better recording artist. I still play E=MC² every day. Couldn't say that about Taking Chances after a month... In fact there are only four really great songs on Taking Chances, while E=MC² sounds like having at least eight hitsingles on it. first of all,Taking chances is a high quality album..it's different from céline's usual albums but she's at the top as always and she did a really great job..the new mariah's album (I admitt that I don't like her at all) is simpy disgusting..Touch my body(the title is ) can't be considered a song..britney's songs are better!!mariah can't sing live without being out of tune..céline's voice has changed but she's always at the top..she sings live perfectly..her performances are always the best..could mariah sing alone,that's just the woman in me,all by myself(I could keep on for days..)??!she couldn't of course!!and céline could really do mariah's high notes even better and higher!! You know what, I think everybody already knows that you hate her. and duuuhhh Celine is a looooooot more often out of pitch than Mariah. Mariah may cannot hit the belting notes anymore or is terribly raspy but that doesn't mean she is out of pitch. It's a very rare situation for her to be out of pitch. I'm wondering if you have even wait 50 minutes to listen to the whole album... I doubt it. I bet you heard the mediocre ''Touch My Body'' and now let's critisize the whole album. And I kinda agree with ray E=MC2 is a lot more listenable than Taking Chances but there is not point discussing this cause it is a matter of a personal preferences. I don't hate anybody..I only express my opinion and I'm not as some people who don't like céline without knowing her songs..I really listen to every kind of music..I'm really open-minded..I always collect information before giving a judgement or an opinion on something..I listened the whole mariah's new album..I also watched the new videos..I don't have any kind of prejudices..I'm simply honest..maybe too much..but this is who I am..I must always tell what I think,even if people's reaction is not so pleasant..but I don't care..I'm also very passionate..I really adore and love céline(there's not time to express what and how much she means to me and you surely don't care about it) and this is the reason why I need to defend her(as you do with mariah) when I don't agree with the things told about her..it's spontaneous for me..it comes naturally..I'm a fan..that's all..as you're a mariah's fan..this is the truth Quote Je m'inventerai reine pour que tu me retiennesJe me ferai nouvelle pour que le feu reprenneJe deviendrai ces autres qui te donnent du plaisirVos jeux seront les notres si tel est ton desirPlus brillante plus belle pour une autre étincelleJe me changerai en or pour que tu m' aimes encore http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3121/celyfunnybx0.png
Nikosn17 Posted May 22, 2008 at 08:22 PM Posted May 22, 2008 at 08:22 PM My God, have been away and now I see this topic is turned into a Céline vs Mariah live kindathing. Well, of course Céline is the better live artist, although she could never do the really high notes I love from Mariah. But Mariah is the better recording artist. I still play E=MC² every day. Couldn't say that about Taking Chances after a month... In fact there are only four really great songs on Taking Chances, while E=MC² sounds like having at least eight hitsingles on it. first of all,Taking chances is a high quality album..it's different from céline's usual albums but she's at the top as always and she did a really great job..the new mariah's album (I admitt that I don't like her at all) is simpy disgusting..Touch my body(the title is ) can't be considered a song..britney's songs are better!!mariah can't sing live without being out of tune..céline's voice has changed but she's always at the top..she sings live perfectly..her performances are always the best..could mariah sing alone,that's just the woman in me,all by myself(I could keep on for days..)??!she couldn't of course!!and céline could really do mariah's high notes even better and higher!! You know what, I think everybody already knows that you hate her. and duuuhhh Celine is a looooooot more often out of pitch than Mariah. Mariah may cannot hit the belting notes anymore or is terribly raspy but that doesn't mean she is out of pitch. It's a very rare situation for her to be out of pitch. I'm wondering if you have even wait 50 minutes to listen to the whole album... I doubt it. I bet you heard the mediocre ''Touch My Body'' and now let's critisize the whole album. And I kinda agree with ray E=MC2 is a lot more listenable than Taking Chances but there is not point discussing this cause it is a matter of a personal preferences. I don't hate anybody..I only express my opinion and I'm not as some people who don't like céline without knowing her songs..I really listen to every kind of music..I'm really open-minded..I always collect information before giving a judgement or an opinion on something..I listened the whole mariah's new album..I also watched the new videos..I don't have any kind of prejudices..I'm simply honest..maybe too much..but this is who I am..I must always tell what I think,even if people's reaction is not so pleasant..but I don't care..I'm also very passionate..I really adore and love céline(there's not time to express what and how much she means to me and you surely don't care about it) and this is the reason why I need to defend her(as you do with mariah) when I don't agree with the things told about her..it's spontaneous for me..it comes naturally..I'm a fan..that's all..as you're a mariah's fan..this is the truth yeah, that's a feeling I know very well Quote
GoldenLeaf Posted May 22, 2008 at 08:36 PM Posted May 22, 2008 at 08:36 PM Madonna CANT sing live!!!! nd shes getting a bit old to be jumping around like she does!! ..... wear some proper clothes"Madge"!!! She does. Quote
Nikosn17 Posted May 22, 2008 at 09:11 PM Posted May 22, 2008 at 09:11 PM (edited) E=MC² Album Trajectory & Sales United States (01-01-02-05-06)Canada (01-04-08-09)Australia (02-11-21-28)United Kingdom (03-05-12-23-46)Switzerland (05-10-15-22-36)France (06-17-23-25-35)Germany (07-22-38-48)Ireland (07-13-25-39-68)Japan (07-09-11-11-16)Austria (08-36-30-56-69)Italy (09-15-22-29)Argentina (10-OUT)New Zealand (10-20-25-20)Netherlands (11-17-28-42-50)Portugal (15-OUT)Spain (16-30-65-71)Denmark (18-34-OUT)Norway (20-OUT)Greece (20-09-10)Sweden (22-40-50-58-58)Mexico (43-56) Official/Estimated* Total Sales:United States - 887,000Japan - 95,000United Kingdom - 73,000*Canada - 39,000*France - 30,000*Brazil - 15,000 (shipment)Australia - 17,500* CertificationsJapan - Gold (100,000)Australia - Gold (35,000)Philippines - Gold (10,000) Edited May 22, 2008 at 09:11 PM by Nikosn17 Quote
GoldenLeaf Posted May 22, 2008 at 10:47 PM Posted May 22, 2008 at 10:47 PM (edited) . Edited May 22, 2008 at 11:05 PM by Calypso Quote
GoldenLeaf Posted May 22, 2008 at 10:48 PM Posted May 22, 2008 at 10:48 PM (edited) To Ray and Nikosn17 : I might be wrong but it looks like Mariah Carey is your #1 favorite diva over Celine. Right ? Edited May 22, 2008 at 11:04 PM by Calypso Quote
GoldenLeaf Posted May 22, 2008 at 10:49 PM Posted May 22, 2008 at 10:49 PM oops! I posted my message twice. Can somebody remove the first one please? Quote
VinnyT. Posted May 22, 2008 at 10:51 PM Posted May 22, 2008 at 10:51 PM (edited) E=MC² Album Trajectory & SalesOfficial/Estimated* Total Sales:United Kingdom - 73,000*That's completely fake last week she was around 60k according to many charts websites and this week she felt to #46 how it possible she sold around 13k if madonna at n5 sold 20k I think she sold max 5k so total estimated in 5 weeks is around 65k and not more mariahdaily is not trustble in Italy we already know her 5th week and it is 52 Edited May 22, 2008 at 11:04 PM by VinnyT. Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
GoldenLeaf Posted May 22, 2008 at 11:03 PM Posted May 22, 2008 at 11:03 PM Sales numbers are always exaggerated on mariahdaily.com Quote
VinnyT. Posted May 22, 2008 at 11:43 PM Posted May 22, 2008 at 11:43 PM 5th week World Wide Sales : 102.000 Total: 1.319.000 in 5 weeks Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Nikosn17 Posted May 23, 2008 at 04:44 AM Posted May 23, 2008 at 04:44 AM (edited) E=MC² Album Trajectory & SalesOfficial/Estimated* Total Sales:United Kingdom - 73,000*That's completely fake last week she was around 60k according to many charts websites and this week she felt to #46 how it possible she sold around 13k if madonna at n5 sold 20k I think she sold max 5k so total estimated in 5 weeks is around 65k and not more mariahdaily is not trustble in Italy we already know her 5th week and it is 52 haha you wish. I don't know what is possible and what not but MariahDaily is a reliable source. To Ray and Nikosn17 : I might be wrong but it looks like Mariah Carey is your #1 favorite diva over Celine. Right ? I think I already said this 3 times in this thread if not more. Edited May 23, 2008 at 04:46 AM by Nikosn17 Quote
Ray Posted May 23, 2008 at 05:35 AM Posted May 23, 2008 at 05:35 AM To Ray and Nikosn17 : I might be wrong but it looks like Mariah Carey is your #1 favorite diva over Celine. Right ? At this moment: yes! I love Mariah's high notes, her lyrics, her way of singing (giving every song the full 100% treatment). But most of all: I can't stop playing E=MC² Madonna and Mariah share their #1 position. All though I have to say "Hard Candy" is my least favorite Madonna album ever... so at this moment Mariah really wins it over Madonna. Céline is my next super idol. (Followed by Lara Fabian, Linda Eder, Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, Tina Arena, Debbie Gibson, among others... in no particular order). I just love music and especially female vocalists. I can't believe so many people here diss a lot of stars. I'm very grateful for so much beautiful voices and music. But for as my love for Céline goes: I love her new tour! But her latest album "Taking Chances" is a bit of a dissappoint to me. I love "Alone", but it stands out by a mile compared to the rest of the album Of course there are other good songs, but it's no way as strong as some of her other albums. Quote Céline Dion Mariah Carey Madonna Lara Fabian Debbie Gibson Wilson Phillips Linda Eder Tina Arena Martika
VinnyT. Posted May 23, 2008 at 07:44 AM Posted May 23, 2008 at 07:44 AM haha you wish. I don't know what is possible and what not but MariahDaily is a reliable source.hahaha I dont wish anything they overestimated it in UK I follow charts websites and it's around 65k plus mariahdaily missed also 5th week in Italy! YES very reliable OMG I'm not mariahdaily #46 = 13k sold Total 73 :sofunny: :sofunny:next week it will be 80k To respect this forum and my moderator role i will always post true estimated sales PSthere's another mistake, in Phillippines: Gold shipment it is 15k and not 10 as they reported another proof they dont know anything about charts Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Black Kitten Posted May 23, 2008 at 08:08 AM Posted May 23, 2008 at 08:08 AM can u give me the link about the philippines certification vinny? cause i do believe that international artists should only ship 10k copies to be certified gold, and 15k is only for our local artists. Quote
VinnyT. Posted May 23, 2008 at 08:16 AM Posted May 23, 2008 at 08:16 AM (edited) I used to check this website but i think it is not updated anymore http://www.musicone.ph/charts/ BTW 10-15k in Philippines doesnt change that Uk sales are overestimated it's logical checking the previous positions Same they did with France in the 2 weeks it is sure it sold 15k so mariahdaily gave it 5k per week so 5+5+5=1515+15=30k estimated but it is impossibile that it sold 5k each 3 consecutive weeks so maybe the right estimation it is 25k after 5 weeks more or less! Edited May 23, 2008 at 08:24 AM by VinnyT. Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Prince Whiskers Posted May 23, 2008 at 11:22 AM Posted May 23, 2008 at 11:22 AM (edited) 5th week World Wide Sales : 102.000 Total: 1.319.000 in 5 weeks Vinny, I think you forgot to sneak in the sales of TCH after the same period. These week-by-week comparisons have gotten pretty interesting. Edited May 23, 2008 at 11:23 AM by manuel morriso Quote http://cdn.webecoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/modern-pet-solo-blown-glass.jpg
VinnyT. Posted May 23, 2008 at 11:27 AM Posted May 23, 2008 at 11:27 AM I dont want to start any fight i'm gonn atell you coz u asked for those figures! well TCH sold in 5 weeks world wide 1.496.000 BTW good and bad news for Mariah Irland from from #68 to #51 Germany 5th week OUT Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Prince Whiskers Posted May 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM Posted May 23, 2008 at 11:41 AM I dont want to start any fight i'm gonn atell you coz u asked for those figures! well TCH sold in 5 weeks world wide 1.496.000If you're worried about Nikos, please don't be. I'm sure he can take it like the real young man that he is. Quote http://cdn.webecoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/modern-pet-solo-blown-glass.jpg
Nikosn17 Posted May 23, 2008 at 02:52 PM Posted May 23, 2008 at 02:52 PM (edited) Vinny, I really doubt MariahDaily.com will lie about something. They have always been telling the truth and they do have Italy. You just didn't see it. And it turned out that the only thing that is different from your sources and MariahDaily is the UK sales and not the other 12301239 things you were making up to be fake. And no, that does not mean I believe you about the UK sales.And lol at some people saying ''MariahDaily always exagerates numbers'' like they check this site everyday to know if they exagerate or not but even if they do that talks bad about them cause since the best thing for them to do in life is to check fan-sites of artist that they don't like and then to go and sh*t all over their work then I'm sorry for them. And don't take it as an insult, I'm being honest and lmao at you two. He asked because he knew that Celine had sold more Funny people... Edited May 23, 2008 at 02:53 PM by Nikosn17 Quote
Black Kitten Posted May 23, 2008 at 03:02 PM Posted May 23, 2008 at 03:02 PM i can't believe nikos is just 15 (or 16?) very young man. i feel like im in my 30's now! LOL Quote
Nikosn17 Posted May 23, 2008 at 03:37 PM Posted May 23, 2008 at 03:37 PM I'm 16, don't be jelous people Quote
VinnyT. Posted May 23, 2008 at 04:31 PM Posted May 23, 2008 at 04:31 PM Italy (09-15-22-29) Before posting useless post about what i see and what I didnt see read what u posted! dont take this as an insult LOL at you that coz u dont remember what u posted no matter u are very young already forget things so funny! You dont need to believe me abou UK sales I will post them anyway just to give right info Mariahdaily doesnt give that's all BTW according to Hits this week mariah is going to sell 40-45k Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Nikosn17 Posted May 23, 2008 at 04:37 PM Posted May 23, 2008 at 04:37 PM Italy (09-15-22-29) Before posting useless post about what i see and what I didnt see read what u posted! dont take this as an insult LOL at you that coz u dont remember what u posted no matter u are very young already forget things so funny! You dont need to believe me abou UK sales I will post them anyway just to give right info Mariahdaily doesnt give that's all BTW according to Hits this week mariah is going to sell 40-45k Before posting useless post about what I forget maybe you should check www.mariahdaily.com cause they do have the 5th week position in Italy. Quote
VinnyT. Posted May 23, 2008 at 04:46 PM Posted May 23, 2008 at 04:46 PM Italy (09-15-22-29) Hello? Hello? wake up! dont keep on being a spoiled child! I was refering to your you post! as u can see from the quote and till yesterday(when i replied)mariah daily didnt update their charts. So don tell me I didnt see it just check your post and there was NO 5th week! Dont lie please read what u wrote! Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Nikosn17 Posted May 23, 2008 at 04:52 PM Posted May 23, 2008 at 04:52 PM (edited) Italy (09-15-22-29) Hello? Hello? wake up! dont keep on being a spoiled child! I was refering to your you post! as u can see from the quote and till yesterday(when i replied)mariah daily didnt update their charts. So don tell me I didnt see it just check your post and there was NO 5th week! Dont lie please read what u wrote! Well it's clear that they added the 5th week position shortly after that. Edited May 23, 2008 at 04:53 PM by Nikosn17 Quote
VinnyT. Posted May 23, 2008 at 04:58 PM Posted May 23, 2008 at 04:58 PM (edited) But they added it later(today) my comment was about yesterday charts!what can i do if they update charts later!i was just taking in consideration your post and there was no 5th week no matter the new italian chart was already out! Ok you edited your post! no problem! Edited May 23, 2008 at 04:59 PM by VinnyT. Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Nikosn17 Posted May 23, 2008 at 05:01 PM Posted May 23, 2008 at 05:01 PM But they added it later(today) my comment was about yesterday charts!what can i do if they update charts later!i was just taking in consideration your post and there was no 5th week no matter the new italian chart was already out! Ok you edited your post! no problem! I edited it cause I missed one of the lines you wrote About MariahDaily ... they probably made a mistake and somone told them to edit it and they did it. Quote
corr_azy Posted May 24, 2008 at 03:05 AM Posted May 24, 2008 at 03:05 AM Vinny, you still don't get what this thread is about don't you? It's not about a comparison between TC and E=MC2! Quote
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