Leo Posted August 17, 2016 at 03:58 PM Posted August 17, 2016 at 03:58 PM Please, read what I said. I said that they had to cater for all tastes and among them the show... In January 2002, Celine said to Billboard "I'll sing the songs people want to hear again, plus the album, and some surprises". If you check the original setlist, she sang 4 songs from ANDHC, while 3, 2 or 1 from her previous ones back to her self-titled. In late 2000 or early 2001, we knew Celine was starting her show in Las Vegas on Dec. 31, 2002. She started receiving songs around the time RC was born, so, there's a chance that they chose a couple of songs thinking about an onstage performance. But we don't know for sure. "One Heart" wasn't in their plans. The original plan was to release a new french album in March 2003. Saying how good an album is is a matter of opinion and everyone is entitled to have it. If you are looking for a link between songs through the lyrics, many of them don't have anything to do with motherhood. Regarding the commercial performance and promotion, they kept talking more about the residency and RC than about the album itself. Tickets went on sale almost a year before when Celine was everywhere in the media. The comeback with a new album was the kick-off to the new big project which was the residency. For some unfathomable reason, they decided to kill the album with the third single and chose to liven up her image with "One Heart" and the Chrysler deal. We learned about the deal in late October 2002 so Sony did know by that time that a new album was going to be released. It wouldn't have been easy to relive ANDHC so that Celine would be everywhere, at least not in the same way as with a new release. That's all. I don't want to keep being off-topic. Quote
Daysleeper Posted August 17, 2016 at 04:10 PM Posted August 17, 2016 at 04:10 PM (edited) "One Heart" wasn't in their plans. The original plan was to release a new french album in March 2003. That's true. I remember we were all waiting the new French album to be released in spring, but Céline's official site announced the release of "One Heart". And the announcement wasn't long before the album's release. It seemed it came out of the blue. Obviously they needed the new English material and a new hit (I Drove All Night) for the Las Vegas Show. Edited August 17, 2016 at 04:10 PM by Daysleeper Quote
comingback Posted August 17, 2016 at 04:30 PM Posted August 17, 2016 at 04:30 PM (edited) Billboard praised the album by concluding: "One Heart may not crackle with the noise of an "event" record, but it succeeds at something far more important: It is a fine piece of music."[9] Entertainment Weekly's Elisabeth Vincentelli questioned "why Celine get so little respect?" and later went to praise the album for "Dion's uncanny ability to infuse sincerity into aural Hallmark cards and sound like the only person on earth who believes in true love." In the end, she wrote: "And in our age of postmodern ironists, isn't it refreshing to encounter someone who so genuinely loves her job?"[4] Slant Magazine's Sal Cinquemani praised "the album as a whole", saying that "she continues the restrained approach of her last record, both in production and performance."[8] He finished the review, noting that "One Heart may be the smartest album Dion could make at this stage in her career." Chuck Arnold of People wrote a mixed review towards the album's songs, calling it "a bit jarring at times" and that "Dion sounds so strangely subdued on some tracks, you keep waiting for her to really let rip."[7] Either way, he wrote positively that "There is a lightness to One Heart that has been missing from much of Dion's previous work, as she leans more toward upbeat dance numbers, easy-listening rock and even borderline country-pop."[7] Edited August 17, 2016 at 04:31 PM by comingback 6 Quote
BartFCS Posted August 17, 2016 at 04:35 PM Posted August 17, 2016 at 04:35 PM Billboard praised the album by concluding: "One Heart may not crackle with the noise of an "event" record, but it succeeds at something far more important: It is a fine piece of music."[9] Entertainment Weekly's Elisabeth Vincentelli questioned "why Celine get so little respect?" and later went to praise the album for "Dion's uncanny ability to infuse sincerity into aural Hallmark cards and sound like the only person on earth who believes in true love." In the end, she wrote: "And in our age of postmodern ironists, isn't it refreshing to encounter someone who so genuinely loves her job?"[4] Slant Magazine's Sal Cinquemani praised "the album as a whole", saying that "she continues the restrained approach of her last record, both in production and performance."[8] He finished the review, noting that "One Heart may be the smartest album Dion could make at this stage in her career." Chuck Arnold of People wrote a mixed review towards the album's songs, calling it "a bit jarring at times" and that "Dion sounds so strangely subdued on some tracks, you keep waiting for her to really let rip."[7] Either way, he wrote positively that "There is a lightness to One Heart that has been missing from much of Dion's previous work, as she leans more toward upbeat dance numbers, easy-listening rock and even borderline country-pop."[7]Dance synth pop, yes, I wish they took that road again. At least for 1-2 upcoming songs. 2 Quote
Javito Posted August 17, 2016 at 06:20 PM Posted August 17, 2016 at 06:20 PM Please, read what I said. I said that they had to cater for all tastes and among them the show... In January 2002, Celine said to Billboard "I'll sing the songs people want to hear again, plus the album, and some surprises". If you check the original setlist, she sang 4 songs from ANDHC, while 3, 2 or 1 from her previous ones back to her self-titled. In late 2000 or early 2001, we knew Celine was starting her show in Las Vegas on Dec. 31, 2002. She started receiving songs around the time RC was born, so, there's a chance that they chose a couple of songs thinking about an onstage performance. But we don't know for sure. "One Heart" wasn't in their plans. The original plan was to release a new french album in March 2003. Saying how good an album is is a matter of opinion and everyone is entitled to have it. If you are looking for a link between songs through the lyrics, many of them don't have anything to do with motherhood. But of course she would feel the need to sing some songs of the ANDHC album, it was her latest music release. The odd thing would have been that she didn't sing any song of her newest album in the show. But from there to say that they created the album thinking in her Vegas show there's a long way. Yes, One Heart wasn't in their plans, it came all of a sudden and it was forced just to boost the hype about the new show and from a marketing and international point of view, to promote her brand new single associated with the Chrysler deal, I Drove All Night. Regarding the commercial performance and promotion, they kept talking more about the residency and RC than about the album itself. Tickets went on sale almost a year before when Celine was everywhere in the media. The comeback with a new album was the kick-off to the new big project which was the residency. For some unfathomable reason, they decided to kill the album with the third single and chose to liven up her image with "One Heart" and the Chrysler deal. We learned about the deal in late October 2002 so Sony did know by that time that a new album was going to be released. It wouldn't have been easy to relive ANDHC so that Celine would be everywhere, at least not in the same way as with a new release. Okay, but none of that makes the album any more or less good, or diminishes it's merits and coherence as an album as you pointed out before. That Céline and Sony together screwed up the promotion of the album has nothing to do with the quality of it. That's true. I remember we were all waiting the new French album to be released in spring, but Céline's official site announced the release of "One Heart". And the announcement wasn't long before the album's release. It seemed it came out of the blue. Obviously they needed the new English material and a new hit (I Drove All Night) for the Las Vegas Show. That's why I've always thought she didn't record any new album for One Heart, but most of the songs come from the ANDHC sessions. She just probably recorded the new single. 3 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Brandon Posted August 17, 2016 at 09:02 PM Posted August 17, 2016 at 09:02 PM Well you know I usually have agreed with you many times in the Spanish forum but I couldn't disagree more on most of what you say here. If ANDHC for you is "not an album, but a collection of songs put together", I don't know what else can be other albums like "Loved Me Back To Life" or even the best-selling "Falling Into You". ANDHC is her most consistent English album, cohesive and coherent to herself that Celine has ever released. Why? Simply because all the songs were chosen thinking in one main event that happened in her life: motherhood. Giving life, being alive. Love. All in all, enjoying and celebrating life. If the sequence of songs included in ANDHC don't tell you that, from start to end, I think we're listening this album from very different perspectives and moods. From I'm Alive to Nature Boy lyrics, there's a link and a connection between all the songs that makes you enjoy the listening, at least for me... If that's not one of her most coherent albums, I don't know what else could be, among a widespread assortment of an English discography full of bumps and jumps between songs, producers and lyrics that openly clash one with another. To me, there's no filler song in this album, or a song that I can say without any kind of hesitation that "it doesn't fit here" (well, maybe Rain, Tax, at most). You cannot stand for this with many more Céline albums ANDHC recordings started in 2001, and A New Day started in 2003. I highly doubt they were thinking in Vegas when they started selecting and recording songs for this album in 2001 How could they rely the recording process of an album on a future show? Since when have Céline or René made an album project in view to its suitabiluty to be performed on the stage? Much when they have ignored most of the new songs of each album when she was doing a tour :hmm:Sorry, but to me that statement looks really untenable. Besides, One Heart came in 2003 at the start of Vegas show, so there's no way they made ANDHC because they needed songs for the show, much more when ANDHC had a massive international promotion supported by most Sony Music branches worldwide, and even Sony thought the album promotion would continue through 2003... So Sony didn't even know what was going to happen with the album in late 2002 (and one thing is for sure, Sony was NOT thinking in Vegas at all with this album, that was the last thing that was in their heads). But finally they decided to release a "new" album instead with a new lead single (IDAN, which that one was indeed directly connected with the new Vegas show and the Chrysler sponsoring). He produced the song, it is included in the album "The best of Celine Dion and David Foster" http://editbacsa.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/9/4/13945653/2462680_orig.jpg?0I wanted Celine to do a spanish album so bad but I think it wouldn't sell in the US, but in Spain and latin america, they say they are risky markets, even though millions of people speak spanish. And I find it weird that Celine never travels to Spain or Latin America except for Mexico once, 2 Quote https://media.giphy....zviuO/giphy.gif
Javito Posted August 17, 2016 at 09:51 PM Posted August 17, 2016 at 09:51 PM I wanted Celine to do a spanish album so bad but I think it wouldn't sell in the US, but in Spain and latin america, they say they are risky markets, even though millions of people speak spanish. And I find it weird that Celine never travels to Spain or Latin America except for Mexico once, The Spanish album... oh well I think I dreamed that, when she said she wanted so much to record that album... I already gave up on that one, I think I dreamed in another life that she said that... 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Leo Posted August 18, 2016 at 01:19 PM Posted August 18, 2016 at 01:19 PM (edited) But of course she would feel the need to sing some songs of the ANDHC album, it was her latest music release. The odd thing would have been that she didn't sing any song of her newest album in the show. But from there to say that they created the album thinking in her Vegas show there's a long way. I didn't say that. Check my post again. The show was one of the factors, but there were more. Okay, but none of that makes the album any more or less good, or diminishes it's merits and coherence as an album as you pointed out before. That Céline and Sony together screwed up the promotion of the album has nothing to do with the quality of it. I never mixed quality and commercial performance. The album was a lasting tool for Celine to be in the media worldwide and that helped her sell tickets. Remember that she still had radio airplay by that time. That's why I've always thought she didn't record any new album for One Heart, but most of the songs come from the ANDHC sessions. She just probably recorded the new single. We know three songs were recorded for ANDHC: SFL, HYEBIL, CWS. FMN was recorded at Studio Piccolo where most of ANDHC was recorded, so that song may have been taken from ANDHC recording sessions. IKWLI was intended to be recorded in the late 90s (the arranger posted it on his website back then), but we don't know what happened in the end... anyway, this one was one of the two songs which were added at the last minute after the 12-track version of the album came under harsh criticism among the fans which were used to generous 16-track albums. JTAE was rehearsed for the French album in October 2002 and then translated into English (some people say it's the opposite). We don't know about the remainder of the tracklist but they may have been recorded in very few days (the booklet say either Florida or "Digital Insight Las Vegas"). Wasn't "Naked" recorded when she was told that her father was ill? I think I read it on "For Keeps". Edited August 18, 2016 at 01:22 PM by Leo 1 Quote
Javito Posted August 18, 2016 at 01:42 PM Posted August 18, 2016 at 01:42 PM (edited) Well, that's it. The fact that they included again 3 songs from ANDHC that had just been included in her previous album not even one year before (HYEBIL, CWS and SFL) makes me think that they did not have enough new/unreleased songs to release a complete new studio album. I didn't know the initial One Heart tracklist had only 12 songs, and that they added later "I Know What Love Is". Well, that's another point in favour of this theory for which I suspect most of the OH album comes from ANDHC sessions and maybe other past recording sessions. So they were running short of songs too That and the fact that we never saw behind the sceenes footage of Celine recording the songs of this album other than IDAN That's highly suspicious too. Edited August 18, 2016 at 01:45 PM by Javito 3 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
SuperLove4Celine Posted August 18, 2016 at 03:45 PM Posted August 18, 2016 at 03:45 PM "Naked" was recorded when she was sick. She talks about this in "For Keeps." 2 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted August 19, 2016 at 06:03 PM Posted August 19, 2016 at 06:03 PM https://youtu.be/ZIglbExu44c I was reading about this album on Wikipedia and had no idea that Daryl Hall of Hall and Oates had ever recorded this song. I knew he co-wrote, but never that he sang it. It's quite nice actually. I'd love to hear Celine do this acoustic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
Javito Posted August 19, 2016 at 06:08 PM Posted August 19, 2016 at 06:08 PM The video it's not available? 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
CelinesDIVO5 Posted August 19, 2016 at 06:08 PM Posted August 19, 2016 at 06:08 PM It's working on my end... Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
chinit0 Posted October 7, 2016 at 01:03 AM Posted October 7, 2016 at 01:03 AM Do you guys happen to have the one of the supposedly cover of this album where Celine's faces are shown on different angles? Quote
Javito Posted October 7, 2016 at 08:54 AM Posted October 7, 2016 at 08:54 AM Do you guys happen to have the one of the supposedly cover of this album where Celine's faces are shown on different angles? It's here http://www.celinedionforum.com/topic/30826-the-other-photoshoot-for-a-new-day-has-come-by-melvin-sokolsky/page__hl__%20melvin 2 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Leo Posted October 10, 2016 at 05:46 PM Posted October 10, 2016 at 05:46 PM It's here http://www.celinedio...ge__hl__ melvin I like it a lot more than the RC collage. Back in 2002 I was so happy with the album and the comeback that I liked it, but later I thought those photos suited a magazine and not the booklet of a pop album. Anyway, the album cover is the best! 2 Quote
Javito Posted October 10, 2016 at 09:14 PM Posted October 10, 2016 at 09:14 PM (edited) I like it a lot more than the RC collage. Back in 2002 I was so happy with the album and the comeback that I liked it, but later I thought those photos suited a magazine and not the booklet of a pop album. Anyway, the album cover is the best! Agree, and agree The collage of RC could be updated in future pressings of the album, including Céline's pictures of the photoshoot instead. We were deprived of them inside the booklet and believe me, there are TONS of them and all of them are gorgeous with great settings and a lot of different sceneries and backgrounds. And yes, I also agree that the album cover is absolutely the best album cover she has ever released! But if the original album cover is good, the full picture, as you know, is even better. Just breathtaking http://markportmann.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/celine-dion-a-new-day-has-come.jpg Edited October 10, 2016 at 09:18 PM by Javito 4 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
CelineDionFreak Posted October 10, 2016 at 09:24 PM Posted October 10, 2016 at 09:24 PM Agree, and agree The collage of RC could be updated in future pressings of the album, including Céline's pictures of the photoshoot instead. We were deprived of them inside the booklet and believe me, there are TONS of them and all of them are gorgeous with great settings and a lot of different sceneries and backgrounds. And yes, I also agree that the album cover is absolutely the best album cover she has ever released! But if the original album cover is good, the full picture, as you know, is even better. Just breathtaking http://markportmann.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/celine-dion-a-new-day-has-come.jpgI absolutely LOVE the ANDHC cover image. i think it is just so so classy and beautiful. It is one of the reasons that ANDHC is my favorite English album of hers, hands down. They really took a concept and ran with it, which is why I love it so much. The pictures had a clear concept, and that cover makes her look young and beautiful! I wish she will do more outdoor shoots like this one day! 5 Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
Slim Shady Posted October 11, 2016 at 04:40 AM Posted October 11, 2016 at 04:40 AM One Heart is amazing.. Don't get all of the hate.Definitely one of her better albums, loved how she tried going for a new, modern, upbeat sound. All of the midtempos, ballads gets boring and quite lame after awhile. ANDHC and One Heart were definitely refreshing.Plus the title track "One Heart" is one of my all time favorite Celine songs. 4 Quote
Javito Posted October 11, 2016 at 05:51 PM Posted October 11, 2016 at 05:51 PM So this is a very good example of how a possible vinyl edition of ANDHC could/should/would have looked! This is Tom Chaplin's debut new album, "The Wave" released next Friday, and it looks so ANDHComeish that I couldn't avoid posting it here 4 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Javito Posted December 29, 2016 at 09:28 PM Posted December 29, 2016 at 09:28 PM Can't believe this album is turning 15 years in 2017! :o Where did the time go 2 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
CelineDionFreak Posted December 29, 2016 at 10:39 PM Posted December 29, 2016 at 10:39 PM Can't believe this album is turning 15 years in 2017! :o Where did the time go15 years old?!? I can't believe that! 1 Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
agentwigs Posted December 29, 2016 at 11:49 PM Posted December 29, 2016 at 11:49 PM (edited) So this is a very good example of how a possible vinyl edition of ANDHC could/should/would have looked! This is Tom Chaplin's debut new album, "The Wave" released next Friday, and it looks so ANDHComeish that I couldn't avoid posting it here Just saw this post. I didn't realise he had a solo album! Away to check it out... Oh and beautiful artwork! Edited December 29, 2016 at 11:49 PM by agentwigs 1 Quote
Simon Posted December 30, 2016 at 08:29 AM Posted December 30, 2016 at 08:29 AM ANDHC has definitely the best cover 2 Quote You could see? I could break! Did you notice all my mistakes? | *taking a kayak* | thanks @TakingChances for the signatur ♥ Vienna ♥ Las Vegas ♥ Paris ♥ Lille ♥ Berlin ♥ London ♥ Québec City ♥
scielle Posted December 30, 2016 at 09:01 AM Posted December 30, 2016 at 09:01 AM ANDHC has definitely the best cover Seriously? I happen to think it's one of the worst.Encore un soir is actually my fave.Followed closely by Sans attendre (I hope they do more like it in the future - artwork instead of photos worked so well)And then the black & white and sepia classics - D'eux, SSDA, D'ellesBest English one is TAST I think. And the My Love collection - that one always reminded my of that classic Elvis Costello cover https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Year's_Model Quote
Javito Posted December 30, 2016 at 10:16 AM Posted December 30, 2016 at 10:16 AM (edited) ANDHC has definitely the best cover It has. Not only the cover, but also the back cover, the inner inlay, the booklet design... Everything is spot on. It's like being inside a dream, looking at that idyllic landscape I often dream of some alternate outtakes of the album cover... shall we see the day when they reveal more pictures of this photoshoot? Edited December 30, 2016 at 10:17 AM by Javito 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
CelineDionFreak Posted December 30, 2016 at 11:19 AM Posted December 30, 2016 at 11:19 AM Seriously? I happen to think it's one of the worst.Encore un soir is actually my fave.Followed closely by Sans attendre (I hope they do more like it in the future - artwork instead of photos worked so well)And then the black & white and sepia classics - D'eux, SSDA, D'ellesBest English one is TAST I think. And the My Love collection - that one always reminded my of that classic Elvis Costello cover https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Year's_ModelWhy do you think it has the worst? No hard feelings, I promise, I am just genuinely curious. I've always loved the cover so I'm curious why others may not. I hope that makes any sense Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
HushNow Posted December 30, 2016 at 11:27 AM Posted December 30, 2016 at 11:27 AM Seriously? I happen to think it's one of the worst.Encore un soir is actually my fave.Followed closely by Sans attendre (I hope they do more like it in the future - artwork instead of photos worked so well)And then the black & white and sepia classics - D'eux, SSDA, D'ellesBest English one is TAST I think. And the My Love collection - that one always reminded my of that classic Elvis Costello cover https://en.wikipedia...ear's_Model Haha! ExactlyIt's the most fake cover ever. Everything is overdone and way to fancy.The fake air, the ugly photoshop blue sea color, the contrast with the tree and Celine in it... bleh In fact, because of that, it's the perfect cover for that album.. fancy, kitschy and tasteless Quote
Javito Posted December 30, 2016 at 12:42 PM Posted December 30, 2016 at 12:42 PM (edited) The fake air? As if the last two album photoshoots by Alix Malka were the example of genuine authenticity, naturalness and spontaneity, precisely. Talk about fake photos and photoshop :whistling: Edited December 30, 2016 at 12:59 PM by Javito Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
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