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VinnyT. Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:00 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:00 PM France: #2Already posted in the previous page: http://www.celinedionforum.com/index.php?s...st&p=730258 Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Thecolourofmylove Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:07 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:07 PM I am FUMING mad!! Damn Sony!! They should be ashamed of themselves! They have signed the Worlds BESTSELLING female artist and they let this happen?? Dont tell me its because of the lack of Celine appearances. She will appear or has appeared on nearly all the same shows as before. Did the switch to Columbia do this in the US?! Here are my reasons for such a disappointing beginning: -Celine's website sucks balls! They aren't up-to-the-date. They don't even know where Celine is half the time!! The MySpace is a good start but they should have gone so much farther. Look at other artists official websites and myspace pages... They've got some major promotional tie ins to push an albums sales! Carrie Underwood sends personal videos to her myspace friends and they have contests for the fans to win a spot as top friend or a trip or a CD... -I haven't see ONE poster in ANY music stores advertising her CD release. Not ONE! Not even a small one with all the other small ads for CDs coming. I mean, I saw a HUGE freaking Ashley Tisdale poster but no Celine? -WalMart didn't have those gawdy posters hanging over their security sensors announcing that they would have the exclusive DVD. -I can't even FIND a copy of the CD/DVD version ANYWHERE and WalMarts supply of the CD is almost non-existant!! -Sony released it the same day as their very own Alicia Keys AND 'Now Music' which they knew would hit Celine hard!!! -Sony SHOULD have flooded stores with posters, window clings, Contests, samplers, CD singles, calendars, pins, a new Collectors Series (i had to throw that in...hey, it would help boost sales). People should walk into a store and -BAM- Celine's bare chest and big hair should be staring them in the face saying 'Buy this chest... buy taking chances' In conclusion, as with everything, I HATE SONY! But I love Celine so whatcha gonna do? Quote Bryan Beavers | Create Your Badgehttp://badge.facebook.com/badge/577905483.228.1040373769.pnghttp://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nafnoid23/Untitled-2.jpg
Xpresso Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:21 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:21 PM Sony is not the smartest label, that's for sure! Releasing all of these CDs in the same week is rather insane. And not sending posters to stores is A JOKE! You can tell they just want to push Alicia and keep Celine on the sidelines... But the best part is that Sony won't make as much money with Celine's CD, but Celine will earn big $$$ with her tour!!! Then I hope she plans on leaving Sony... But I'm still happy if she gets in the Top 5 in the US with so many CDs out at this time (and no much support from Sony)! Quote
speedy Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:28 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:28 PM Releasing all of these CDs in the same week is rather insane. And not sending posters to stores is A JOKE! Really insane, and they knew what was going to happen Quote
Nando Férri Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:43 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:43 PM Sure they knew. They don't give a s*** for Celine... Quote http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ejungtQy1r9swpco6_250.gif
manilou Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:47 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:47 PM (edited) This is not only Sonys fault. Celine's music is not all-liked anymore. The single doesn't flop, because Sony doesn't support it enough, but because people don't really like it. And if people don't like the music they don't buy it. It's insane to always blame Sony for everything. We have to accept, that the general public is not crazy about Celine anymore. Still for an artist with a career of 25 years first week sales of what? around 500k are impressive. We should be proud of Celine. Many people might've been scared off by this new image. And imagine someone bought One heart and Miracle. They were prbably dissappointed and so they don't buy TC in the first week. But they may notice sometime later, that this album is better than its processors... BTW if she released some weeks earlier, she'd be #1 in France,Switzerland and better in most of the other countries. But Sony decided to release it this week. Probably in preparation for Xmas. Edited November 20, 2007 at 08:50 PM by manilou Quote http://s03.flagcounter.com/count/idbH/bg=FFFFFF/txt=000000/border=CCCCCC/columns=6/maxflags=248/viewers=3/labels=0/.jpg
Ted Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:52 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:52 PM Hits - I wouldn't surprised that the next update will final results. Quote http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/tedxyz/Untitled-TrueColor-02.jpg
Thecolourofmylove Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:59 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 08:59 PM This is not only Sonys fault. Céline's music is not all-liked anymore. The single doesn't flop, because Sony doesn't support it enough, but because people don't really like it. And if people don't like the music they don't buy it. It's insane to give all the guilt to Sony. We have to accept, that the general public is not v´crazy about Celine anymore. Still for an artist with a career of 25 years first week sales of what? around 500k are impressive. We should be proud of Céline. BTW if she released some weeks earlier, she'd be #1 in France,Switzerland and better in most of the other countries. But Sony decided to release it this week. Probably in preparation for Xmas. Of course Sony's 100% at fault! LOL! Seriously though, lets be honest here. Take a look at some of the #1 albums of the year. Not all of those were commercially accepted either BUT with the right promotion, the albums debuted #1. While its true that Celine isn't 'hip' (god, that made me sound old!) she still has MILLIONS fans, not to mention the buttload of soccer moms, gay men (like myself), and people with generally good taste that love her! This record SHOULD have been number 1. There is no excuse for anything less. Sony sure does like the label of "the bestselling female vocalist of all time" but they sure as hell don't put out the effort!! And there's no use in trying to get Celine to leave Sony... we've been begging for her to do that for over 10 years (probably longer)!! It REALLY ticks me off that Sony will make money off the tour. They dont deserve to! Its the 'Taking Chances' world tour and they NEVER even tried to 'Take a chance' with this album in terms of promotion. Also, I hate to say it, but there should have been a HUGE sticker on the front of the album with the names BEN MOODY & NE-YO all over it in huge print! Quote Bryan Beavers | Create Your Badgehttp://badge.facebook.com/badge/577905483.228.1040373769.pnghttp://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nafnoid23/Untitled-2.jpg
LuisMa Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:05 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:05 PM I just received my People magazine, and they have an almost full page review of the Alicia Keys album. The review for Taking Chances is not quite stellar, as they write that "despite mild flirtations with rock, gospel and country, it's pretty much the same old Celine. After a five year-stint in Vegas, she still likes a safe bet." I hate that ending sentence Quote
LuisMa Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:06 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:06 PM OMG OMG OMG CHART DATE: 11/19/2007 LAST UPDATE: 11/20/2007 12:41:40 NOW IN: 72.35% LW TW artist / album label power index -- 1 ALICIA KEYS J RECORDS/RMG 723,125 AS I AM 6 2 JOSH GROBAN REPRISE 229,238 NOEL -- 3 CELINE DION COLUMBIA 206,603 TAKING CHANCES -- 4 NOW 26 EMI COMMERCIAL MARKETING 203,902 VARIOUS ARTISTS 3 5 GARTH BROOKS PEARL RECORDS 201,049 ULTIMATE HITS Quote
Ted Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:06 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:06 PM (edited) CHART DATE: 11/19/2007 LAST UPDATE: 11/20/2007 12:41:40 NOW IN: FINAL LW TW artist / album label power index -- 1 ALICIA KEYS J RECORDS/RMG 723,125 AS I AM 6 2 JOSH GROBAN REPRISE 229,238 NOEL -- 3 CELINE DION COLUMBIA 206,603 TAKING CHANCES -- 4 NOW 26 EMI COMMERCIAL MARKETING 203,902 VARIOUS ARTISTS 3 5 GARTH BROOKS PEARL RECORDS 201,049 ULTIMATE HITS Edited November 20, 2007 at 09:12 PM by Ted Quote http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/tedxyz/Untitled-TrueColor-02.jpg
LuisMa Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:07 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:07 PM Now they say it's final. CHART DATE: 11/19/2007 LAST UPDATE: 11/20/2007 12:42:49 NOW IN: FINAL LW TW artist / album label power index % change -- 1 ALICIA KEYS J RECORDS/RMG 723,125 -- AS I AM 6 2 JOSH GROBAN REPRISE 229,238 +90% NOEL -- 3 CELINE DION COLUMBIA 206,603 -- TAKING CHANCES -- 4 NOW 26 EMI COMMERCIAL MARKETING 203,902 -- VARIOUS ARTISTS 3 5 GARTH BROOKS PEARL RECORDS 201,049 -43% ULTIMATE HITS Quote
celine the power of my dream Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:09 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:09 PM This is not only Sonys fault. Celine's music is not all-liked anymore. The single doesn't flop, because Sony doesn't support it enough, but because people don't really like it. And if people don't like the music they don't buy it. It's insane to always blame Sony for everything. We have to accept, that the general public is not crazy about Celine anymore. Still for an artist with a career of 25 years first week sales of what? around 500k are impressive. We should be proud of Celine. Many people might've been scared off by this new image. And imagine someone bought One heart and Miracle. They were prbably dissappointed and so they don't buy TC in the first week. But they may notice sometime later, that this album is better than its processors... BTW if she released some weeks earlier, she'd be #1 in France,Switzerland and better in most of the other countries. But Sony decided to release it this week. Probably in preparation for Xmas. I don't agree on the fact that people are not crazy anymore for her. Why did 3 milion people went to a new day why does she still fill Stadiums? People do want to hear Céline but there are serveral reasons that the single flops and indeed it's not all Sony. But for example in Holland radio stations don't play a song of her only because of her name and they did that to them selves by overplaying MHWGO. They just don't play her and when they don't play it people don't hear it and then it can never be a succes. For the album I do blame Sony a little bit. I have talked to them in may and they told me everything would be pulled out for this album but when I walk in the city there isn't any poster out in the music stores but then I ask myself did they send posters or do the store owners don't want to hang out the posters. The people want to hear her otherwise she won't be at place 4 in the albumchart(Holland) and probably 4 or 5 in America ok we expected more but she will sell she is a steady seller. So I don't think it's Sony I don't think it's the people who don't want to listen but it's the people who have to play her who have to sell her cd's(at least here in Holland) Quote »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» Taking Chances Tour: Antwerpen, Paris, Amsterdam, New York «««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««« http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/M-etje/Celine/Banners/CelineAND15-kl1.png
Nando Férri Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:10 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:10 PM This is not only Sonys fault. Celine's music is not all-liked anymore. The single doesn't flop, because Sony doesn't support it enough, but because people don't really like it. And if people don't like the music they don't buy it. It's insane to always blame Sony for everything. We have to accept, that the general public is not crazy about Celine anymore. Still for an artist with a career of 25 years first week sales of what? around 500k are impressive. We should be proud of Celine. Many people might've been scared off by this new image. And imagine someone bought One heart and Miracle. They were prbably dissappointed and so they don't buy TC in the first week. But they may notice sometime later, that this album is better than its processors... BTW if she released some weeks earlier, she'd be #1 in France,Switzerland and better in most of the other countries. But Sony decided to release it this week. Probably in preparation for Xmas.Just ONE THING my dear. Look at Mariah. (and I'm talking serious) She is the perfect example of what a GREAT MARKETING TEAM can do. She was completly lost and nobody was giving a s*** for her. But ther "new" record label made her the most important singer of 2005 and the game completly change. So it's SONY's FAULT. If Sony really wanted this album to be a hit, they could do that. Nothing more to say. Quote http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ejungtQy1r9swpco6_250.gif
julien Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:10 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:10 PM (edited) This is not only Sonys fault. Celine's music is not all-liked anymore. The single doesn't flop, because Sony doesn't support it enough, but because people don't really like it. And if people don't like the music they don't buy it. It's insane to always blame Sony for everything. We have to accept, that the general public is not crazy about Celine anymore. Still for an artist with a career of 25 years first week sales of what? around 500k are impressive. We should be proud of Celine. Many people might've been scared off by this new image. And imagine someone bought One heart and Miracle. They were prbably dissappointed and so they don't buy TC in the first week. But they may notice sometime later, that this album is better than its processors... BTW if she released some weeks earlier, she'd be #1 in France,Switzerland and better in most of the other countries. But Sony decided to release it this week. Probably in preparation for Xmas. I agree... Except for the: Celine's music is not like anymore. Well maybe the single track Taking chances. But what about the sound of the new album ? N.O.T.H.I.NG I never saw such a bad promotion. If someone has to be blamed, it's René and Céline. I mean, it's so pretentious to think that the only important thing is to do all the most important shows, while you haven't prepared anything new to introduce ! René is always saying : Ho Celine will do Oprah, Dancing with the stars, The view... But she isn't capable of introducing this new album at all. She is killing this album, that's it ! She has in her hand one of the most amazing album she has ever done, she worked with Perry, Ne yo, Tricky, Dioguardi, Shanks...She tried blues, folk, acoustic music...She has a new Tour... But nothing about that. Instead, she speaks about how she is happy to go on tour with her 80 years old mother and her son. And about the new album ? Nada ! Nothing. We know what the problem is : TIME. René knew that... In consequence, she had to do less show, in order to be able to prepare 3/4 tracks of the new album : For example: The full track Alone, Right Next, Woman in me, This time, My love. That's what people want. When I see Alicia Keys doing amazing live performance, I'm amazed; that's a real artist ! And even if I'm not to much into her music I want to buy and listen her album! That's a very pretentious, non professionnal and populist way of doing promotion. And Celine needs a coach for the interview ! That's a pity, because this album doesn't have any commercial single !!! BUT BUT BUT and it's maybe more important, this album has a huge live potential. And she had all of the most important show to introduce those new songs ! Now it's over, it's a big waste ! Edited November 20, 2007 at 09:12 PM by julien Quote
pat200 Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:11 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:11 PM wow at alicia! guess now for sure celine will be at no2 worldwide, which is not that bad... Quote
Céline's Blues Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:12 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:12 PM Ho Celine will do Oprah, Dancing with the stars, The view... I agree! That ho should dress the heck up again! Quote http://i.imgur.com/dmreJ.jpg
thevoice Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:12 PM Author Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:12 PM well we could not ask celine to do more - she was everywhere , she was on top shape and sounded great , she looks better than ever - all she needs is a hit and she needs it desperately if we want TC to still be relevant in 3 weeks she never actually had a record label and she always had to do everything on her own so there is nothing new about it - let's cross our fingers for TCH on itunes and hope they'll release EOM as soon as possible Quote
LuisMa Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:13 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:13 PM This is not only Sonys fault. Celine's music is not all-liked anymore. The single doesn't flop, because Sony doesn't support it enough, but because people don't really like it. And if people don't like the music they don't buy it. It's insane to always blame Sony for everything. We have to accept, that the general public is not crazy about Celine anymore. Still for an artist with a career of 25 years first week sales of what? around 500k are impressive. We should be proud of Celine. Many people might've been scared off by this new image. And imagine someone bought One heart and Miracle. They were prbably dissappointed and so they don't buy TC in the first week. But they may notice sometime later, that this album is better than its processors... BTW if she released some weeks earlier, she'd be #1 in France,Switzerland and better in most of the other countries. But Sony decided to release it this week. Probably in preparation for Xmas.Just ONE THING my dear. Look at Mariah. (and I'm talking serious) She is the perfect example of what a GREAT MARKETING TEAM can do. She was completly lost and nobody was giving a s*** for her. But ther "new" record label made her the most important singer of 2005 and the game completly change. So it's SONY's FAULT. If Sony really wanted this album to be a hit, they could do that. Nothing more to say. Nando, I totally agree with you. People were still apprehensive when "It's Like That" was released because of her terrible chart appearances in the previous years. But her label did an amazing job promoting her everywhere: there were immense posters, Billboards and even they used an awesome phrase: "The Voice Is Back." That promotion was incredibly set up for the album, and then "We Belong Together" exploded.And of course TC is 10000000000000 times better than "The Emancipation of Mimi," so Sony has to do something. Quote
VinnyT. Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:17 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:17 PM wow at alicia! guess now for sure celine will be at no2 worldwide, which is not that bad...I think celine will be n3 in the world 1)Alicia2)Leona3)Celine Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
pat200 Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:24 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:24 PM i don't think leona will be ahead of her cause leona only released her album in uk and ireland, whereas celine already sold 206k in US and around the world as well, so i think celine will just edge leona out Quote
OnlyCeline Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:24 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:24 PM CelineDionForum.com: #1 Quote http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9860/ggxz9.jpg
Nando Férri Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:24 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:24 PM This is not only Sonys fault. Celine's music is not all-liked anymore. The single doesn't flop, because Sony doesn't support it enough, but because people don't really like it. And if people don't like the music they don't buy it. It's insane to always blame Sony for everything. We have to accept, that the general public is not crazy about Celine anymore. Still for an artist with a career of 25 years first week sales of what? around 500k are impressive. We should be proud of Celine. Many people might've been scared off by this new image. And imagine someone bought One heart and Miracle. They were prbably dissappointed and so they don't buy TC in the first week. But they may notice sometime later, that this album is better than its processors... BTW if she released some weeks earlier, she'd be #1 in France,Switzerland and better in most of the other countries. But Sony decided to release it this week. Probably in preparation for Xmas.Just ONE THING my dear. Look at Mariah. (and I'm talking serious) She is the perfect example of what a GREAT MARKETING TEAM can do. She was completly lost and nobody was giving a s*** for her. But ther "new" record label made her the most important singer of 2005 and the game completly change. So it's SONY's FAULT. If Sony really wanted this album to be a hit, they could do that. Nothing more to say. Nando, I totally agree with you. People were still apprehensive when "It's Like That" was released because of her terrible chart appearances in the previous years. But her label did an amazing job promoting her everywhere: there were immense posters, Billboards and even they used an awesome phrase: "The Voice Is Back." That promotion was incredibly set up for the album, and then "We Belong Together" exploded.And of course TC is 10000000000000 times better than "The Emancipation of Mimi," so Sony has to do something.Exactly. You got the point bud. Quote http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ejungtQy1r9swpco6_250.gif
CSCfan Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:27 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:27 PM wow at alicia! guess now for sure celine will be at no2 worldwide, which is not that bad...I think celine will be n3 in the world 1)Alicia2)Leona3)Celine Leona 2nd? LOL! Don't think so... the only country where she's famous in, is the UK.. Quote »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» MATHIAS ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPrxI0AIDY
VinnyT. Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:28 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:28 PM i don't think leona will be ahead of her cause leona only released her album in uk and ireland, whereas celine already sold 206k in US and around the world as well, so i think celine will just edge leona outLeona reached 375k only in UK Celine can reach around 350k in th world adding all the figures from all around the world Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Ted Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:33 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:33 PM I'll wait until the Billboard #'s. It might be the same, higher, or lower. I just hope higher. Quote http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/tedxyz/Untitled-TrueColor-02.jpg
pat200 Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:34 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:34 PM celine is already at 206k + 55.5k (uk) + 29k (france) + 5.2k (australia) + 12k (japan) = 307.2k and still not counting germany, italy, netherlands, switzerland and the rest of the world, and most importantly canada, so i think 400k for celine is pretty sure Quote
celinerific Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:35 PM Posted November 20, 2007 at 09:35 PM The album is at #2 in Canada! Im sorry but in Canada D'elles was the highest selling debut of the year at no 1 and if this english album isnt then there is something wrong. Who is Number 1 and how much has Celine Sold in canada the past couple of Number 1s debuted with sales of 30k. This is all very unsusual I thinkAlicia Keys is at #1. Quote http://i58.tinypic.com/2qbub9c.png @ErikaTran | Insta: aireexwp | erikatran.com
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