stevo Posted November 6, 2007 at 10:58 AM Posted November 6, 2007 at 10:58 AM I hope Celine gets asked why she lipped- directly and outright. I'd be very interested to hear what she says- and to tell her that people expected more of her- and I don't think that's unfair. I expeted more. Don't care if she was tired- that's not an excuse- she leads a pampered life. I really do hope she see's that it isn't really acceptable- yes, everyone does it but the lipped peformances have way outnumbered the live ones in recent years. I've paid £120 to see her in London and if she mimes I will cry and will be so so so let down. What bugs me is that she's still amazing- moreso than ever- her recording sessions blew me away and gave me that WOW feeling. The Elvis CHFIL was amazing too- so new-age raw Celine. I want it for this album's promo so bad. The best thing that could come out of this is a scandal that she actually feels some heat for for a change and wakes her the hell up. She's too cushioned and protected- I think we should all send her printouts of The Sun article to Caesars.I agree with you.She's very pampered. It's time to clean up! And no Huggies until she does
Love, Posted November 6, 2007 at 11:08 AM Posted November 6, 2007 at 11:08 AM (edited) And no Huggies until she does ...and what if your wish does not come true? Then... PULL-UPS? Edited November 6, 2007 at 11:08 AM by Love,
Cheerfuljane Posted November 6, 2007 at 11:21 AM Posted November 6, 2007 at 11:21 AM Something is not sitting well with me at all...I feel as if there is a lot more to the story than we know so I'm not complaining about the lipping until more is said.We might regret what we say.
Bumble Posted November 6, 2007 at 11:55 AM Posted November 6, 2007 at 11:55 AM She's lipping because she's stuck in the middle of an unprecedented marketing blitz, and that she has no time to do the rehearsals, as she has to be on every show available on the same day. It's her manger's fault is she HAS TO LIP. If they carefully selected fewer shows to do, she would be able to attend to the rehearsals, do the sound checks and so on, so she could sing. Unfortunately they deliberately chose mass media exposure in the smallest amount of time available. W T H W T H W T H W T H W T H W T H W T H W T H W T H W T H W T H W T H W T H W T H W T H W T H
Teodora Posted November 6, 2007 at 12:12 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 12:12 PM You're buying those tickets to see her. Period. Singing or not singing. Maybe you are that obsessed with her, as a celebrity, that you would go just to see her talk. But I wouldn't. I certainly wouldn't spend £125 for a ticket just to hear her talk. The majority of people wouldn't. The minority of people who would are registered here, at this forum. She's my favourite SINGER and I want to hear and see her sing... live. It's true I like her as a person very much but I would not shell out crazy money to go see her recite a monologue. Hypothetically, if all sites and venues selling tickets for her world tour had a disclaimer up saying "This show will be 90% lip-synched" it wouldn't even come close to selling out, I'm sure. BUT... I am sure she'll sing live on her world tour.I'm not talking about the tickets for AND or normal concerts, I'm talking about tickets to this kind of TV shows. Fans go to TV shows too. Ya, I'm obssesed, I spent the last week at her hotel door... You people need to accept once and for all that she doesn lip-synch at her Vegas show. She might do it from time to time, when she's not up to it. If she was lip-synching her Vegas show, why would she cancel when she gets a cold, she could go right ahead, no one would know. Also, a few years back, she said she would sometime use samples for the very difficult parts of some songs, when her voice wasn't up to it. So the playback just kicked in for a few notes, on some days she couldn't do them. Maybe she does that in Vegas too sometimes and that's why some you got the impression that whole show is lip-synched.
Shaun Posted November 6, 2007 at 12:18 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 12:18 PM (edited) No one has ever suggested, in this thread or any other thread, that she lips her entire Vegas show. She certainly does lip selected songs every night and has done since the show opened in 2003. Fact i'm afraid. Edited November 6, 2007 at 12:18 PM by Shaun Bringing you the world's only Celine Dion podcast show since 2014.Find us on Soundcloud, Apple Podcasts, Spotify & Amazon Music.
Bellamy Posted November 6, 2007 at 01:06 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 01:06 PM She's lipping because she's stuck in the middle of an unprecedented marketing blitz, and that she has no time to do the rehearsals, as she has to be on every show available on the same day. It's her manger's fault is she HAS TO LIP. If they carefully selected fewer shows to do, she would be able to attend to the rehearsals, do the sound checks and so on, so she could sing. Unfortunately they deliberately chose mass media exposure in the smallest amount of time available. I agree. But that's how promo works. The more shows she's on, the more exposure she gets. Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
nature boy Posted November 6, 2007 at 05:45 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 05:45 PM When you buy tickets to a live concert it should be that LIVE. If all this promotion is bad for her voice then like I've said before maybe she should have waited until the show was over and launch the album later on. I love the woman, but I'm not gonna be blind to the faults of my favorute artist. I'm already sort of stung by this promotion anyway as I'm off to Vegas this Sunday to see Celine. But these were the shows that were cancelled due to the TC promo tour. http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3239/kylieima5lp9.jpg How do you describe a feeling??
Ted Posted November 6, 2007 at 05:49 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 05:49 PM When you buy tickets to a live concert it should be that LIVE. If all this promotion is bad for her voice then like I've said before maybe she should have waited until the show was over and launch the album later on. I love the woman, but I'm not gonna be blind to the faults of my favorute artist. I'm already sort of stung by this promotion anyway as I'm off to Vegas this Sunday to see Celine. But these were the shows that were cancelled due to the TC promo tour. You still have a chip on your shoulder. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/tedxyz/Untitled-TrueColor-02.jpg
LVCeline Posted November 6, 2007 at 05:58 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 05:58 PM As much as I love the woman dearly I really do feel so disappointed that she lipped so much during this promotion, particuarly for the Audience show. I'm not alone in thinking that it was a once in a lifetime opportunity for us to get to see her do something like that and to find out she lipped the entire thing makes me physically sick. Mostly because she just doesn't do that sort of thing usually. I mean 25 years into her career and it's the first time. We were all giddy with anticipation and then to find out she took the lazy way out and lipped all the songs is just heartbreaking. I'm not sure of her reasoning, but quite frankly I would like this issue to be addressed by her team. I don't want to listen to excuses. There is no reason that Celine can't crank out the vocals in a live setting, there's just no reason. Whatever she does when she records should be duplicated when doing shows like this. Don't speak for days, space out your appearances better, drink tea, whatever you have to do to perform, but this kind of stuff makes me worried for the future.
Bellamy Posted November 6, 2007 at 06:07 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 06:07 PM As much as I love the woman dearly I really do feel so disappointed that she lipped so much during this promotion, particuarly for the Audience show. I'm not alone in thinking that it was a once in a lifetime opportunity for us to get to see her do something like that and to find out she lipped the entire thing makes me physically sick. Mostly because she just doesn't do that sort of thing usually. I mean 25 years into her career and it's the first time. We were all giddy with anticipation and then to find out she took the lazy way out and lipped all the songs is just heartbreaking. I'm not sure of her reasoning, but quite frankly I would like this issue to be addressed by her team. I don't want to listen to excuses. There is no reason that Celine can't crank out the vocals in a live setting, there's just no reason. Whatever she does when she records should be duplicated when doing shows like this. Don't speak for days, space out your appearances better, drink tea, whatever you have to do to perform, but this kind of stuff makes me worried for the future.She just doesn't have time to do those during this promo tour. No time to do rehearsal, sound check... She has to go 4-5 shows everyday. Maybe you'll blame Rene and her manage team for the tight schedule. But that's how promo works. Getting more exposure is the only thing matters. Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
nature boy Posted November 6, 2007 at 06:11 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 06:11 PM When you buy tickets to a live concert it should be that LIVE. If all this promotion is bad for her voice then like I've said before maybe she should have waited until the show was over and launch the album later on. I love the woman, but I'm not gonna be blind to the faults of my favorute artist. I'm already sort of stung by this promotion anyway as I'm off to Vegas this Sunday to see Celine. But these were the shows that were cancelled due to the TC promo tour. You still have a chip on your shoulder. Hehe yeah, can you tell? Hardly blame me though. http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3239/kylieima5lp9.jpg How do you describe a feeling??
nature boy Posted November 6, 2007 at 06:18 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 06:18 PM As much as I love the woman dearly I really do feel so disappointed that she lipped so much during this promotion, particuarly for the Audience show. I'm not alone in thinking that it was a once in a lifetime opportunity for us to get to see her do something like that and to find out she lipped the entire thing makes me physically sick. Mostly because she just doesn't do that sort of thing usually. I mean 25 years into her career and it's the first time. We were all giddy with anticipation and then to find out she took the lazy way out and lipped all the songs is just heartbreaking. I'm not sure of her reasoning, but quite frankly I would like this issue to be addressed by her team. I don't want to listen to excuses. There is no reason that Celine can't crank out the vocals in a live setting, there's just no reason. Whatever she does when she records should be duplicated when doing shows like this. Don't speak for days, space out your appearances better, drink tea, whatever you have to do to perform, but this kind of stuff makes me worried for the future.She just doesn't have time to do those during this promo tour. No time to do rehearsal, sound check... She has to go 4-5 shows everyday. Maybe you'll blame Rene and her manage team for the tight schedule. But that's how promo works. Getting more exposure is the only thing matters. True but we are getting bad exposure, and that's not good http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3239/kylieima5lp9.jpg How do you describe a feeling??
LVCeline Posted November 6, 2007 at 06:19 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 06:19 PM Quite honestly a tight schedule is an excuse if you ask me. She is a SINGER. She's not an ACTRESS. I don't want to see her perform a monologue to music which is basically what she does when she lips. Why not hire Angelina Jolie or Meryl Streep to lip all her old hits for those that don't mind she's miming every appearance if it means more exposure. All this exposure isn't going to make her sell like she used to anyway, might as well get some great live performances out of it. You watch this sort of program expecting a very intimate experience between a singer and an audience, and you go into it expecting one of the greatest singers of all time to freakin sing her songs as she's perfectly capable. If this was 'An Audience with Ashley Simpson,' it wouldn't be so unexpected to see lip synching, but it's Celine Dion. Never known for her beauty, but for her amazing voice instead. Whoever planned this media tour needs to be fired. Celine is the product, and if the product is tired and worn out from working too much that she can't even sing a single song live for 4 minutes then someone didn't do their job right, and Celine's worthless if she's not going to sing. They might as well just put up a cardboard cutout of her on stage and play the songs. Let her stay home and rest so at least she will be able to perform a song on Leno or Letterman. Lord help us all if she starts lipping those performances.
incognito Posted November 6, 2007 at 06:53 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 06:53 PM (edited) But that's how promo works. Getting more exposure is the only thing matters. Except it's backfired and now, for the most part, she's getting bad exposure. She's a laughing stock for this. An incredible live performance at "An Audience With" could have done more positive things for her than 20 appearances on shows such as the BAFTA thing could and the third-rate Diva's show. I mean, after it airs (BAFTA) everyone will have forgotten it. Years later people still remember Sir Elton John's "An Audience With"... The only good thing about most of her UK appearances is that people from here got to meet her. Which was nice. Edited November 6, 2007 at 06:54 PM by incognito
Macaronie Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:06 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:06 PM She should have done the Audience on another date. I am sure she had a busy schedule, so she did not had much time to prepare and all, so yeah... she could have done it in january or something. Before her tour, for promotion.
Shaun Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:18 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:18 PM She's going to have a busy schedule on tour though as well. Different cities and countries every week no doubt with local promotion built into her schedule. I hope this wont mean it's ok for her to lip on tour. Bringing you the world's only Celine Dion podcast show since 2014.Find us on Soundcloud, Apple Podcasts, Spotify & Amazon Music.
Macaronie Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:20 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:20 PM But she'll have months to prepare that
Shamrock_1982 Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:23 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:23 PM With a world tour of this size and duration, i can see her singing live with the odd mimed song thrown in, which is understandable...shes only human after all.
William2005 Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:30 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:30 PM I am so sick of people using a busy schedule as an excuse! It isn't one. How hard is it to have a background singer do a soundcheck? (as other musicians do that all the time) Other people are paid to make sure everything is set up right! All she has to do is show up and sing the freakin songs! Not to hard to do, if you ask me! I mean even if she was tired and sick she could have told the audience while she was recording that show. Then she might have got positive press because of how she still went through with the show despite being ill. But no, she took the easy way out. Celine DOES have control over whether she mimes or not. It isn't as if someone makes all of her decisions for her and she just sits there helplessly. Also if this promo was too grouling for her she should have done what people have said above and waited until she had more time and when her voice was up to par. But that's another issue, because we all know her voice has been up to par atleast once while she has been in Europe on Star Academy, yet she STILL lipped. UGH! I love you, but GET IT TOGETHER GIRL!
leenylover Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:50 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:50 PM I really don't know what to say anymore, I have always defended Celine's use of backing tracks, as I knew of her dedication to her vocal instrument. Knowing how she would be so careful to save her voice for important performances made it so much more acceptable. But it appears that maybe her UK audience may not have been as important to her than other European appearances, judging by her performances on Star Academie. It's a great disappointment, especially as this publicity phase really played up her global success as the biggest Female artist. It's a bit of a poor effort really! Love Lisaxxx My List of Celine Dion stuff, PM me to trade!
Love, Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:53 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 07:53 PM (edited) She's going to have a busy schedule on tour though as well. Different cities and countries every week no doubt with local promotion built into her schedule. I hope this wont mean it's ok for her to lip on tour.Shaun, there is no doubt she's going to be miming on the tour. It's a part of her repertoire. She will feel the need to mime because she will be committed to a 100-city world tour and a bigger audience! Reporter One: Celine, will you mime less than 25% of your show?Celine: *sings "Dream, dream dream..." :mdr: Edited November 6, 2007 at 07:55 PM by Love,
nature boy Posted November 6, 2007 at 11:10 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 11:10 PM With a world tour of this size and duration, i can see her singing live with the odd mimed song thrown in, which is understandable...shes only human after all. I think that too. http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3239/kylieima5lp9.jpg How do you describe a feeling??
salsacolin Posted November 6, 2007 at 11:15 PM Posted November 6, 2007 at 11:15 PM She's going to have a busy schedule on tour though as well. Different cities and countries every week no doubt with local promotion built into her schedule. I hope this wont mean it's ok for her to lip on tour.Shaun, there is no doubt she's going to be miming on the tour. It's a part of her repertoire. She will feel the need to mime because she will be committed to a 100-city world tour and a bigger audience! Reporter One: Celine, will you mime less than 25% of your show?Celine: *sings "Dream, dream dream..." :mdr: I think that too I think overall they made a bit of a mistake with the UK stuff. Rene probably thought the TV special would be good if it all soudned perfect like the CD but the uK are like the US and prefer live performances. I just hope the way she is dressed and the fact that she does upbeat tracks RDMH, IDAN, EOM on the TV special will help take her away from teh MHWGO image I never even knew the song the orchestra was playing........ Glasgow SECC, November 1996Edinburgh Murrayfield, July 1999Las Vegas, Collosuem November 2005An Audience With, ITV Studios November 2007Manchester MEN Arena - 2 May 2008London 02 Arena - 6 May 2008Birmingham NIA - 10 May 2008Nice, France - 5 July 2008
celine_rox Posted November 7, 2007 at 01:02 AM Posted November 7, 2007 at 01:02 AM i think she's miming because it seems like everything is happening all at once.poor celine.. i think needs a REAL break, at least for two months
Bellamy Posted November 7, 2007 at 01:02 AM Posted November 7, 2007 at 01:02 AM I am so sick of people using a busy schedule as an excuse! It isn't one. How hard is it to have a background singer do a soundcheck? (as other musicians do that all the time) Other people are paid to make sure everything is set up right! All she has to do is show up and sing the freakin songs! Not to hard to do, if you ask me! I mean even if she was tired and sick she could have told the audience while she was recording that show. Then she might have got positive press because of how she still went through with the show despite being ill. But no, she took the easy way out. Celine DOES have control over whether she mimes or not. It isn't as if someone makes all of her decisions for her and she just sits there helplessly. Also if this promo was too grouling for her she should have done what people have said above and waited until she had more time and when her voice was up to par. But that's another issue, because we all know her voice has been up to par atleast once while she has been in Europe on Star Academy, yet she STILL lipped. UGH! I love you, but GET IT TOGETHER GIRL!Obviously you know nothing about how shows are produced. I really don't know what to say anymore, I have always defended Celine's use of backing tracks, as I knew of her dedication to her vocal instrument. Knowing how she would be so careful to save her voice for important performances made it so much more acceptable. But it appears that maybe her UK audience may not have been as important to her than other European appearances, judging by her performances on Star Academie. It's a great disappointment, especially as this publicity phase really played up her global success as the biggest Female artist. It's a bit of a poor effort really! Love LisaxxxShe only sing 2 duets live on Star AC. And she sing live on X Factor. So UK, France are almost same to her. Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
Alex_Incognito Posted November 7, 2007 at 01:14 AM Posted November 7, 2007 at 01:14 AM She doesn't have to prove that she can sing anymore. We all know she can, who hasn't seen the TC Sessions video? It's more than obvious that she was having vocal problems. See X Factor? I don't care how you cut it, it was an awful performance for Celine. But I'm not going to sell all of my CDs because she's lipped some songs after that. Celine's lipping has been around for a while. Big whoop. And you can bet your booty that she'll lip some on her forthcoming tour. She's a "dancer" now, too, and thank God. Now her tour shows will be much more interesting and entertaining. I'm sorry, but Terry Bradford dancing on "Misled" was embarassing. Now Celine knows how to give her all for a spectac. "People pay 20-25 dollars to see you."- Céline Dion, 1990
cannonball Posted November 7, 2007 at 02:47 AM Posted November 7, 2007 at 02:47 AM It's crap. There are plenty of performers who sing every day on stage and don't have to lip synch. I can't go to work every day and fake doing my job, she shouldn't either. If she's going to do it, she needs to be upfront about it so the people who are paying to see her sing actually know what they're getting. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/venusunfolding/100_3663.jpg3/14/07 - The Celine concert that almost was
celine_dion_fan Posted November 7, 2007 at 02:55 AM Posted November 7, 2007 at 02:55 AM It doesnt really bother me. Her studio sessions prove to me that she can sing anything. Her voice cant be perfect all the time. She sings all the time in vegas and Im sure thats taking a toll on her voice and she might need to rest it once in a while. We dont really know the situation, she might be sick or have a cold or something.
cannonball Posted November 7, 2007 at 03:02 AM Posted November 7, 2007 at 03:02 AM If she can't perform because she's sick, she should cancel, or like I said, she should be upfront about it. Tell the audience and let them decide whether they want a refund or not. And to the person that said something about her saving her voice for the important performances, that SUCKS! Who gets to decide which fans are important enough to hear her live, and which have to hear playback. Sorry, if I wanted to hear the album version of Taking Chances I could save a lot of money and stay home with the cd. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/venusunfolding/100_3663.jpg3/14/07 - The Celine concert that almost was
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