Celine to star in "An Audience with Celine Dion" on December 22nd - ITV1

[nature boy]

There is alot of backlash in the press about this.

[Loup_garou]

I'm still holding to the X-factor performance over any of the lipped performances...no matter the technical issues.....it's still better when you hear it for real with different tones as to listened the exact match from the album

[Frida]

uuugh, I just read about this (in the swedish media)... why can't they just let it go, it's not like she's the only one.. and really, what's the freaking deal?

[Loup_garou]

uuugh, I just read about this (in the swedish media)... why can't they just let it go, it's not like she's the only one.. and really, what's the freaking deal?

 

It's easy to see why...She's known as one of the best voices of an era...and as she does not do drugs, heavy partying, scandals.....people are going to get her for any slip.... The really bad thing is that as the world turns these days....doing drugs or scandals will increase your album sales....lipped performances are going to rest her credibility if the comments keep raising....

[fred]

I'm still holding to the X-factor performance over any of the lipped performances...no matter the technical issues.....it's still better when you hear it for real with different tones as to listened the exact match from the album

yepp, right there with ya! If I see a performance is lipped I rarely watch it to the end. But if it's live I can watch it over and over again, and even get an mp3 file to listen to, instead of the studio track... since the changes in a live performance is very well welcome after hearing the studio version as many times as you grew tired of it. And the crap about not wanting to be too different from the studio track - that's why I like live performances , otherwise I'd be listening to the album and not care to watch her perform.

 

uuugh, I just read about this (in the swedish media)... why can't they just let it go, it's not like she's the only one.. and really, what's the freaking deal?

They actually write about her? Other than minimal parts in the upper r lower corner about her coming to Sweden...

 

/fred

[William2005]

I am so pissed that this was lipped. I remember watching Elton John's special and wishing Celine would do something like that. Now it finally happens and NONE of it is LIVE? Ugh, no excuse Celine, no excuses. She lipped on Divas, she lipped on Star Academy (only one performance although I was looking forward to that one), she lipped on the World Music Awards, she lipped on that movie show she just filmed, she lips at A New Day! Does this woman ever sing live anymore? I mean seriously? If Ashlee Simpson got tore apart from one lipped performance they would tear Celine to shreds if they knew. Celine always said she was a singer, so people shouldn't care how she dressed or looked, and should be more concerned about her voice. She has even said that she thinks nobody likes perfect performances, and it is those imperfect performances that people love. Yet she refuses to sing live? Seriously Celine? Ugh. It is pretty bad when I am worried about purchasing tickets for her World Tour considering that I don't know if she will be actually singing or not? Lipping here and there is alright, but not like this Celine, UNACCEPTABLE AND INEXCUSABLE! I know I will get bashed for saying this, but these are truly my thoughts.

[incognito]

I am so pissed that this was lipped. I remember watching Elton John's special and wishing Celine would do something like that. Now it finally happens and NONE of it is LIVE? Ugh, no excuse Celine, no excuses. She lipped on Divas, she lipped on Star Academy (only one performance although I was looking forward to that one), she lipped on the World Music Awards, she lipped on that movie show she just filmed, she lips at A New Day! Does this woman ever sing live anymore? I mean seriously? If Ashlee Simpson got tore apart from one lipped performance they would tear Celine to shreds if they knew. Celine always said she was a singer, so people shouldn't care how she dressed or looked, and should be more concerned about her voice. She has even said that she thinks nobody likes perfect performances, and it is those imperfect performances that people love. Yet she refuses to sing live? Seriously Celine? Ugh. It is pretty bad when I am worried about purchasing tickets for her World Tour considering that I don't know if she will be actually singing or not? Lipping here and there is alright, but not like this Celine, UNACCEPTABLE AND INEXCUSABLE! I know I will get bashed for saying this, but these are truly my thoughts.

 

I agree with you. I only saw A New Day once because I didn't want to fork out thousands just for more lip-synching. And I'd quite like to see Celine's world tour... perhaps if she goes to South Florida... but I am not going to bust a gut to see her because I worry it won't be 100% live and I have other things to spend my hard earned cash on.

[William2005]

Exactly, I am sorry, but If I wanted to watch Celine lip-syncing I would just pop in my All The Way dvd and watch her videos. There is a reason why a live performance is called a LIVE performance.

[nature boy]

Give me a live vocal that may not be perfect to a mimed vocal anyday. I always enjoy those preformances more.

 

Celine on a bad vocal day is still better than what most singers can do on a good day.

[Un Rêve]

You know what? I get that everyone is dissapointed here, I am as well because I love seeing/hearing Céline sing live and I KNOW she can do it. When she does, it's so much better than the original version in my opinion.

 

BUT

 

let's give Céline a break here. For some reason, which might be unknown to us, she's been lip-syncing a lot these days. We can guess, but unless she or René says it out loud, we'll never know a 100% sure why she did it. There is, however, one thing we do know for sure:

 

We KNOW she doesn't just let her fans down for no reason

 

SO - saying you're dissapointed it fine by me, but please do not start saying all kinds of crazy stuff on here. She had better cancelled her shows in the UK than come and lip-sync a few songs? Yea right, don't make me laugh. If she'd cancelled her show because of vocal problems, there would have been so many complaints, it would definitely not have been pretty.

 

And you know what, everyone needs a bit of a break sometimes, even the biggest selling female artist of all time. Even if people expect her to ALWAYS sing live, just because she has the most amazing voice in the world, doesn't mean she's going to be in top shape every second of the day.

 

It's a dissapointment, YES, I get that and the same goes for me. But some of the bashing on here is even more of a dissapointment to me. I'd hoped for a different kind of response from true Céline fans.

[jacwar58]

A little light relief here for a moment guys, sort of connected to the topic but loosely.

I have been chatting to an old friend recently and he surprised me with this in a recent email

 

 

Hope you had some luck with getting tickets for the Audience with Celine Dion! I remember meeting her many years back when

she was awarded a Platinum disc for the album Falling Into You at a record launch....long story why I was there! ...She was very

nice and we had really lovely chat about a French musical called Starmania, that I was looking to produce at that time and she had recorded

several tracks from...unfortunately there were problems over the UK rights and it never happened... C'est la vie!

 

Anyway enjoy Celine in Vegas...I am going there in 2008 to see Bette Midler!

 

 

 

I'll ask him more!

[Teodora]

This lipping thing is getting so silly. She doesn't need to prove to anyone she can sing and she has better things to do with her voice, she needs to save it for real concerts, in Vegas. She's got 13 left. Not to mention it has to be perfect for that last night. Whatever you guys say, she doesn't do playback in Vegas, but in order to sing live there, she needs to take care of her voice and not sing live in all this shows, where she does a song or two... Not to mention she has to talk a lot with all these interviews she's doing. I remember this happened once years back, when she was acused of not singing live in her shows. She was actually singing live, but she was so good, some thought she was in playback. It's not the case on these TV shows, but it's not the first time she proved people wrong.

I hate the fact that you, the fans, are making her feel like she needs to prove all the time something to you.

[djs31982]

This lipping thing is getting so silly. She doesn't need to prove to anyone she can sing and she has better things to do with her voice, she needs to save it for real concerts, in Vegas. She's got 13 left. Not to mention it has to be perfect for that last night. Whatever you guys say, she doesn't do playback in Vegas, but in order to sing live there, she needs to take care of her voice and not sing live in all this shows, where she does a song or two... Not to mention she has to talk a lot with all these interviews she's doing. I remember this happened once years back, when she was acused of not singing live in her shows. She was actually singing live, but she was so good, some thought she was in playback. It's not the case on these TV shows, but it's not the first time she proved people wrong.

I hate the fact that you, the fans, are making her feel like she needs to prove all the time something to you.

She has nothing to prove to me, but to a lot of people she does need to prove she is still creditable to sell records. Better things to do with her voice?? I think that the promotion should showcase her voice.

 

As far as the Vegas playback, we've been over that over and over again. I know at least part of the show is playback. It was very apparent to me when she took her microphone away and her mouth was closed yet you could still hear her singing.

 

Its not about proving anything and its understandable some things are lipped, but a show thats totally dedicated to you shouldn't be...and if she is sick, which is unlikely considering her WONDERFUL live singing on star academy, they should just tell someone.

 

And by the way being critical of someone has nothing to do with being a "true" fan. I dont think any of us would be on this forum if we werent true fans.

Edited November 5, 2007 at 10:10 PM by djs31982

[incognito]

I hate the fact that you, the fans, are making her feel like she needs to prove all the time something to you.

 

She's a singer. Singers sing.

[Shaun]

Celine has nothing to prove to anyone anymore. We all know she can sing live, we've seen her sing her hits and those of many others live so many times. There's no doubting she can do it.

 

What is worrying though is that people, myself included, are buying tickets for the tour on the assumtion Celine will be singing live. That shouldn't be an assumption I have to make, it should be a given. Celine Dion is a singer.

 

Even more worrying that, after years of doing it (lipping), the press seem to finally picking up on it and if you want my opinion, quite rightly, critising her for it. I accept that she can't belt out The Power Of Love 5 nights a week in Las Vegas, no-one could. But there's no excuse for lipping a 4 minute song on a TV appearance or awards show. What's more is that ITV have dedicated a whole hour of their Christmas programming to Celine, invited a celebrity audience along and Celine lipped and not just here and there, the entire show. It's clear one of the celebrities has leaked this to the press and they are having a field day with it. Let's make one thing quite clear however, no one is to blame for this, except Celine.

 

It's so disappointing.

Edited November 5, 2007 at 10:30 PM by Shaun

[incognito]

Even more worrying that, after years of doing it (lipping), the press seem to finally picking up on it and if you want my opinion, quite rightly, critising her for it. I accept that she can't belt out The Power Of Love 5 nights a week in Las Vegas, no-one could. But there's no excuse for lipping a 4 minute song on a TV appearance or awards show. What's more is that ITV have dedicated a whole hour of their Christmas programming to Celine, invited a celebrity audience along and Celine lipped and not just here and there, the entire show. It's clear one of the celebrities has leaked this to the press and they are having a field day with it. Let's make one thing quite clear however, no one is to blame for this, except Celine.

 

It's so disappointing.

 

That's what I'm bothered about. And all of the bad press she is getting about it could so easily have been positive press. It was a chance to wow people; a missed chance. Even Celine only 60% at her best is better than 99% of singers out there. I feel like something was misjudged. Maybe somebody on Celine's team got it wrong and thought it would be fine to lip on the show. It's not, it's not that kind of TV show. If she had vocal problems I think she should have pulled out of the show cos now what has happened is a bit of a mini-scandal. I fear it will only get worse once the time for the show to air creeps up. I just hope none of the media do research and pick up on the case in 1999 when her ex-drummer accused her of not singing all her concerts live.

 

It's true, Celine does not have to prove that she can sing. We all know she is an incredible singer. Nobody is questioning that. It's why it's all so disappointing. Apparently even the people on radio one were puzzled as to why somebody with so much talent wasn't singing live. There is something that she does have to keep proving (to me at least) and that is that she is worthy of me spending quite a substantial amount of money on. If I do buy a ticket for her tour I'm sorry to say that I will not be 100% confident that she is performing the whole show live and that is sad. I'd be so pissed off if it wasn't live. I think I'd sue. lol j/k

[jacwar58]

I'm sure all the press backlash is known to rene and the management. I wouldn't be surprised if there will be an interview in the near future where the reasons will be given.

 

I still love you Celine, miming or not!

[Teodora]

You're buying those tickets to see her. Period. Singing or not singing. You would have bought those tickets if you knew she would just do an interview with no performance at all. You go and sit for hours outside her hotel, just to see her face, not hear her sing.

I just think it's ridiculous... all this. Some have nothing better to do than critiseze.

For me, I'll just enjoy her appearances. I know she can sing live when she wants to and she can do it better than anybody else ever, so if sometimes she doesn't want to sing live, that's fine by me.

[incognito]

You're buying those tickets to see her. Period. Singing or not singing.

 

Maybe you are that obsessed with her, as a celebrity, that you would go just to see her talk. But I wouldn't. I certainly wouldn't spend £125 for a ticket just to hear her talk. The majority of people wouldn't. The minority of people who would are registered here, at this forum. She's my favourite SINGER and I want to hear and see her sing... live. It's true I like her as a person very much but I would not shell out crazy money to go see her recite a monologue.

 

Hypothetically, if all sites and venues selling tickets for her world tour had a disclaimer up saying "This show will be 90% lip-synched" it wouldn't even come close to selling out, I'm sure. BUT... I am sure she'll sing live on her world tour.

Edited November 5, 2007 at 11:00 PM by incognito

[Shaun]

You're buying those tickets to see her. Period. Singing or not singing. You would have bought those tickets if you knew she would just do an interview with no performance at all. You go and sit for hours outside her hotel, just to see her face, not hear her sing.

I just think it's ridiculous... all this. Some have nothing better to do than critiseze.

For me, I'll just enjoy her appearances. I know she can sing live when she wants to and she can do it better than anybody else ever, so if sometimes she doesn't want to sing live, that's fine by me.

 

Absolutely and utterly disagree.

 

I spent HUNDREDS of pounds on tickets to see "A New Day..." openly accepting the fact that Celine lipped during the show as overall it was a show. I accept that. Do I doubt she can sing live? Of course not. I know she can.

 

On tour however it's a different experience. People are not paying to just see Celine, stop being so naive. People are paying money, good money, to hear Celine sing. Live. Anything else is unacceptable. If she's struggling to sing, do what other singers do and reschedule the show or just sing songs your comfortable singing.

[incognito]

On tour however it's a different experience. People are not paying to just see Celine, stop being so naive. People are paying money, good money, to hear Celine sing. Live. Anything else is unacceptable. If she's struggling to sing, do what other singers do and reschedule the show or just sing songs your comfortable singing.

 

Exactly. We go to a Celine Dion concert to experience seeing the best singer of her, or maybe any, generation perform LIVE. It's a special thing. And if she doesn't perform live I think most people would come away from the show with a very bad taste in their mouth.

[William2005]

Yeah people pay to see her SING on tour. Not just to see her!

[salsacolin]

yeah I agree if the world tour isn't live it will be awful. The odd sing will be lipped like LTAL and FIY tours but surely mostly love

 

Lets Talk About Love - The Power Of Love (most of it), The Reason (the end bit), THLAL, Stayin Alive, and To Love You More were all lipped.

 

Falling Into You - The Power Of Love (most of of), Falling Into You, To Love You More, Misled and I think Declaration of Love were all lipped

 

I really hope she doesnt do To Love You More again

 

 

i am paying hundreds of pounds to hear her sing live - I dont care about how great the show is - that means little or nothing to me. i can accept vegas because it was a show but i am going to Celine shows to be amazed by her voice and thats more or less it. Celine singing live is astounding and its worth hundreds of pounds, lipping...be as well watching a video

Edited November 6, 2007 at 12:41 AM by salsacolin

[incognito]

Yeah I can accept a few songs being lipped.

[ks1981]

I am so pissed that this was lipped. I remember watching Elton John's special and wishing Celine would do something like that. Now it finally happens and NONE of it is LIVE? Ugh, no excuse Celine, no excuses. She lipped on Divas, she lipped on Star Academy (only one performance although I was looking forward to that one), she lipped on the World Music Awards, she lipped on that movie show she just filmed, she lips at A New Day! Does this woman ever sing live anymore? I mean seriously? If Ashlee Simpson got tore apart from one lipped performance they would tear Celine to shreds if they knew. Celine always said she was a singer, so people shouldn't care how she dressed or looked, and should be more concerned about her voice. She has even said that she thinks nobody likes perfect performances, and it is those imperfect performances that people love. Yet she refuses to sing live? Seriously Celine? Ugh. It is pretty bad when I am worried about purchasing tickets for her World Tour considering that I don't know if she will be actually singing or not? Lipping here and there is alright, but not like this Celine, UNACCEPTABLE AND INEXCUSABLE! I know I will get bashed for saying this, but these are truly my thoughts.

 

 

I totally agree. Well said. You would think Celine would be show-casing her vocals - the new 'edge' to this album and performing live as much as possible. I think its very dissapointing that so many performances for the promotion of TC is lipped. The 'Legend' award - and she lipped that. Very bizare and in a way I think its a bit of an insult to receive such a recognition and then not to sing the song live.

 

Yes she is immensly talented, yes she has one of the best voices out there, we already know she can perform live and my comments are not doubting her ability. I'm just being realistic and let's face it overall, it's not good promotion for people who havn't yet discovered Celine - the new and potential fans especially and the critics !

 

The Diva's show...now thats the show you can really 'show-off' (well i think so) when Celine did the other Divas show in 1998 - she blew everyone away - her vocals were outstanding. So when I saw her lipping this time round I was really shocked. To share a stage with Divas and being the best one...well surely people on here have to agree that it was just madness to lip on that show and I won't even start on "an audience with".

 

I hope this doesn't spark even more comments about Celine being 'able' to sing live. I can understand that she needs to rest her voice etc and I dont doubt in any way that Celine can sing live - people get so deffensive and touchy on these kind of discussions.

 

[firebird]

Hehe I really have to laugh at those people who said she lipped on a previous performance because she had to save her voice for this one. Now she lipped on this one, they're saying she has to save her voice for another one. To say it in the wisdom words of Madame Ross: I'm in the middle of a chain reaction ...

[stevo]

I hope Celine gets asked why she lipped- directly and outright. I'd be very interested to hear what she says- and to tell her that people expected more of her- and I don't think that's unfair. I expeted more. Don't care if she was tired- that's not an excuse- she leads a pampered life.

 

I really do hope she see's that it isn't really acceptable- yes, everyone does it but the lipped peformances have way outnumbered the live ones in recent years. I've paid £120 to see her in London and if she mimes I will cry and will be so so so let down. What bugs me is that she's still amazing- moreso than ever- her recording sessions blew me away and gave me that WOW feeling. The Elvis CHFIL was amazing too- so new-age raw Celine. I want it for this album's promo so bad.

 

The best thing that could come out of this is a scandal that she actually feels some heat for for a change and wakes her the hell up. She's too cushioned and protected- I think we should all send her printouts of The Sun article to Caesars.

[celinefanonline]

stevo u do have some point.... but yeah... fans still will argue about it though.....

and i have nothing to say now...

[Love,]

I hope Celine gets asked why she lipped- directly and outright. I'd be very interested to hear what she says- and to tell her that people expected more of her- and I don't think that's unfair. I expeted more. Don't care if she was tired- that's not an excuse- she leads a pampered life.

 

I really do hope she see's that it isn't really acceptable- yes, everyone does it but the lipped peformances have way outnumbered the live ones in recent years. I've paid £120 to see her in London and if she mimes I will cry and will be so so so let down. What bugs me is that she's still amazing- moreso than ever- her recording sessions blew me away and gave me that WOW feeling. The Elvis CHFIL was amazing too- so new-age raw Celine. I want it for this album's promo so bad.

 

The best thing that could come out of this is a scandal that she actually feels some heat for for a change and wakes her the hell up. She's too cushioned and protected- I think we should all send her printouts of The Sun article to Caesars.

I agree with you.

She's very pampered.

 

 

It's time to clean up!

 

[Shamrock_1982]

I could not agree more shaun, but I think shes still getting over her viral infection, its just unfortunate that the promo tour took place at the same time as this infection.

And she has been flat out in the states the uk and europe promoting, so she deserves credit in a way...if she sung the way she did on xfactor on every show we would really complain and it would be bad promo for the album, and I realy do think thats why shes miming, its not that shes lazy its just that shes unwell...