Celine at the 66th Grammys, presenting album of the year award

[MaiconSC]

 

The dress is actually pink! When put side by side with the white from the unnameable, whe can see it better...

 

And here we can se RC better too... he's lovely

[catlovergirl1982]

 

 

 

Exactly - for the love of GOD she was with AEG VP / resorts world guy. Again.

 

It was a surprise to have max impact not her SPS.��

 

Like I said in nov VEGAS IS happening .

 

Ok again, how are you "SOOOO 100% SURE that a new Vegas Residency, a new tour, etc is going to happen"? Did CELINE HERSELF OR SOMEBODY ACTUALLY FROM HER TEAM told this any of this as facts?

 

Let me guess, you are one of those fans who has "PERSONAL CONNECTIONS TO CELINE & FAMILY" & that you have "insider information from Celine & her family/team" right lol. Yeaaaaaa riiiiight lol... Please you do not have any more "Personal Connections" to Celine any more than her sister Claudette does lol! At least we all know that Claudette does know Celine personally, which is more than I can say about you or about other fans on social media who also try to claim connections just like you do! Yes Claudette at times can be a blabbermouth, & yes there have been times that Claudette has said things about Celine that were not always the 100% golden truth either. But at least Claudette does know Celine in person. Sorry to say this, but I can bet my life that you have NEVER MET Celine in person ever!

 

& plus, why would the surprise be "for maximum impact" when most of the fans (& most of the general public) did not know that she was going to be on the Grammys last night? I did not know, & according to most of the fan world on social media & most of the fans on this forum did not know ahead of time either!

 

Actually I think if most Celine fans would had known she was going to be on the Grammys last night, I would bet that shows would have gotten MILLION of more views! In fact I know I would have actually WATCHED THE SHOW if I had known that Celine going to appear on it lol! Because I do not really watch the Grammys, I stopped watching it YEARS AGO as it became awful with a lot of the awful "music" that was on it instead of the good classics!

Edited February 6, 2024 at 07:33 AM by catlovergirl1982

[ryba]

I totally disrespect Taylor Swift after this. She acted like an ultimate idiot. Celine was very generous for posing and taking pictures with her after this.

[manu23]

Well, it says a lot that team Celine posted some backstage pictures but haven't included the picture with Taylor Swift. Celine is super humble, but you could clearly see in her face how awkward she felt standing there waiting for TS to at least say thanks.

[mirage]

Oh well theres the nod to Taylor on her tiktok. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8vN3qa6/

 

I aspire to be as gracious as this woman.

They be using all the socials this time.

Hope they will keep it up this time. Not another silence for like a year or so.

 

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[Dancing_Queen]

If that woman ever tries to frame this incident as 'the media pitting women against women' I will hurl. She's one of those people who abuse the word 'misogyny' to shut down any criticism.

 

Céline is a saint for just accepting that hug (despite the clear ulterior motive) and moving on. Mariah could never lmao.

[takeachance]

Celine looked amazing ! I was so thrilled to see her

Taylor was soooooo ignorant and rude it is beyond words !!! I was shocked how she just took her award out of Celine's hands and walked away with it as if Celine were nothing. What an awful person. I don't care what excuse she has now. If you behave like that, that's just who you are and what you are............... I have Zero time for her going forward. You can tell so much about a person from a moment like that. Such a pity it was her who won the award

Edited February 6, 2024 at 09:14 AM by takeachance

[ryba]

If Taylor did this to Mariah then Mariah would shade and diss her for the rest of her life

[marc-02]

From TMZ:

 

https://twitter.com/...659250343997741

 

And another one, where the hosts make a good point. I especially like the point they raised that Grammy intentionally invited the biggest stars as presenters (Celine, Mariah) in a sort of passing of the torch to the next generation. It's very symbolic and momentous, which Miley gracefully embraced... but Taylor, on the other hand, blew the moment. I also like the point raised by the guy that - to be blunt - Taylor's actions would be similar to someone really full of themselves.

 

https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBRaqzqvsWE

Edited February 6, 2024 at 09:29 AM by marc-02

[Ajax]

Not to turn it into a TS discussion but this is a mysterious topic for me so I will just take very quickly this opportunity.

 

I mean the TS era is totally out of control no ? Well I'm not gonna say in Europe but in France at least, and I know that she will be in concert soon and still has an army here.... But I dare anyone around me, even young people to tell me one song of TS? Honestly no one would be able to tell me anything, even sing or even hum one song. She doesn't have any global hit that would even transcend generation plus just the fan base/army like Britney, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga or Rihanna got in their prime. This is so weird. We just hear that she is the absolute pop star actually but talking about music ? Honestly outside her army no one knows a f****** song from her here. Even on young trendy radio station she's not that represented but just drowned in the mass. She doesn't have a distinct sound or voice either, nor a particular temper. And I mean France is not that small in term of musical market normally in POP we get the same hit from international market. I don't know but we are far from a global superstar like the one I cited in term of music hit and recognition.

Edited February 6, 2024 at 11:15 AM by Ajax

[scielle]

Jimmy Kimmel joked about “the incident” last night-

https://www.thewrap.com/kimmel-grammys-taylor-swift-celine-dion-monologue-video/

 

[drove all night]

I noticed she was [mostly] using her lower voice, the same way she voiced over the French track for Love Again. That aligns with what she had said about not being able to use her voice the way she’s used to

 

Or maybe it’s just due to lack of performing

 

 

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I am afraid to say that it would be a huge wonder if this "sh**"-disease doesn't also affect her voice. I am pretty sure after the upcoming documentary we will all be very shocked what she had to run through (in case they really openly showed her battle with destiny)!

Edited February 6, 2024 at 12:05 PM by drove all night

[drove all night]

Wow! That Swift's mistake is all over the internet!!! However, this is so good to see all the love that Celine is receiving right now!! She's still trending on X! Celine deserves all that support so much!!

 

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Yeah! That makes me happy too. And that behaviour of Ms. Swift is not only disrespectful against a true legend, but someone who's fighting against a horrible disease and no-one so far knows what was necessary for Céline to do this appearance! I never liked Taylor and honestly don't understand this hype about her!

[Zofia]

I am afraid to say that it would be a huge wonder if this "sh**"-disease doesn't also affect her voice. I am pretty sure after the upcoming documentary we will all be very shocked what she had to run through (in case they really openly showed her battle with destiny)!

 

It affects... Not just the vocal cords, but the entire vocal tract, starting with the diaphragm. And on the other hand, since even long-time SPS sufferer Jennifer Trujillo - whose disease once dashed her dreams of singing professionally - was recently able to record a few phrases of a song, who knows… (BTW, one can learn a lot about SPS from Jenn's social media: how non-linear this disease is, how one day you can have fun on a trip with your kids, and the next you can experience a paralyzing and extremely painful "flare up").

 

The crystalline soprano or powerful belting are rather a thing of the past. But I can't help thinking that if fate is kind, Celine - in that mature, lowered (naturally, due to age) voice, in which one can hear how much she has lived through - can sing deeper, more beautiful and truer than ever.

[scielle]

The crystalline soprano or powerful belting are rather a thing of the past. But I can't help thinking that if fate is kind, Celine - in that mature, lowered (naturally, due to age) voice, in which one can hear how much she has lived through - can sing deeper, more beautiful and truer than ever.

 

Honestly, I truly look forward to that. I've always loved her lower register. And I always thin about that think she said circa 2013 or so, when there were some rumors about a potential jazz/ blues record, something along the lines of "for jazz, you really need to have lived". Well over the last decade she really has...

(I'm not saying I expect anything in that genre, just that there's gravitas attached to anything she does now, which was never quite there before. There's a life lived, if you will. And that makes anything she does next that much more interesting.)

Edited February 6, 2024 at 12:42 PM by scielle

[scielle]

I just hope it’s true, 100% for it… because I think everyone would get the best of both worlds… Celine would have trust in him, and the younger blood could help the fans with future project ( if fingers crossed a return does happen at some point).

 

Yes, I'd love to see RC get actively involved in her career. It would be good for her, and it would benefit RC and his brothers in the future. He's clearly truly proud of her, of both his parents. You can see it when he's out with her like he was on Sun, or at the Billboards, or in that letter he wrote for her 50th birthday which was published in 7 Jours, I think. He seems really protective, too. I just hope he's got a good head on his shoulders, we know so little about him, really.

And maybe if he's involved, it would strip out some of the "cheese" factor from her work... Much as Rene built an amazing career for her, I think he's to blame for a lot of her material being so bland and schmaltzy. All song submissions went through him, he was the gate keeper in every way, and I don't think it always benefitted her. I think Celine's natural inclinations were far more "edgy" - after all she was trying to be a rocker chick before she got guided down the "Hallmark love ballad" lane. And I think she's at a point in her life, especially post SPS diagnosis, where she can have an IDGAF attitude and just pursue the things that truly resonate with her. There's a lot of promise in that.

 

Anyway, from People:

"It was an amazing night for her. She's doing well, and the hope is that she can continue to do more and ease back in," says the source of Dion. [...]

"People will see everything she went through," [in he doc] says the source, who adds Dion is looking forward to leaning back into her music career this year. "She's taking things step by step. [Her illness] is incurable, but she's honestly doing well and looks incredible."

https://people.com/i...clusive-8559267

Edited February 6, 2024 at 12:55 PM by scielle

[superstar85ca]

I think the thing that annoys me more than Taylor ignoring Celine, is the Swifties coming up with the lamest excuses to justify what she did. I have nothing against Taylor and I am not looking for fault - but she did mess up big time at that moment.

 

- She was not overwhelmed and forgot to thank Celine

- She was not avoiding her because of her "fragile condition"

- We are not trying to "find fault" because she is Taylor Swift

 

The fact of the matter is she F#$ked up. She made a mistake. A really stupid one.. Like, a really really dumb mistake that we are all in amazement over. It is baffling. I think we are all like - can you imagine having Celine Dion looking at you to give you an award and not even making eye contact with her or saying thank you? Honestly, If Celine had a pile of s*** in her hands, I would take it from her and give her a hug and say thanks and tell everyone that it was the most beautiful pile of s*** I ever got.

 

All in all though, it was a lovely moment, watching Celine walk out with RC while they played her beautiful song. She looked beautiful, was gracious, sweet as could be and super stylish. She can wear anything and look good.

 

Food for thought - imagine how much better it would have been had Miley won Album of the year??

[lyn]

 

there's gravitas attached to anything she does now, which was never quite there before. There's a life lived, if you will. And that makes anything she does next that much more interesting.)

 

That’s so true. It’s always been nearly impossible for her to break away from that reputation for the saccharine and idealistic but that’s not how people see her now.

[Davey84]

Honestly, If Celine had a pile of s*** in her hands, I would take it from her and give her a hug and say thanks and tell everyone that it was the most beautiful pile of s*** I ever got.

 

:sofunny: :mdr: right on!!!

 

 

Food for thought - imagine how much better it would have been had Miley won Album of the year??

 

It would have been lightyears different! This time I'm really jealous of Mariah, the praise she got from Miley was just pure class. Céline should have gotten the same treatment, if not 10 x times more!

[Zofia]

Honestly, I truly look forward to that. I've always loved her lower register. And I always thin about that think she said circa 2013 or so, when there were some rumors about a potential jazz/ blues record, something along the lines of "for jazz, you really need to have lived". Well over the last decade she really has...

(I'm not saying I expect anything in that genre, just that there's gravitas attached to anything she does now, which was never quite there before. There's a life lived, if you will. And that makes anything she does next that much more interesting.)

 

I share the same dreams. Just remember what she did with two songs from Goldman: "Tous les blues sont écrits pour toi" and "Et je t'aime encore." On the records she sang them very well, but in the category of "task passed" - perfectly, but still only "task". What she knew how to do with them after 2016 is already master class.

 

I listened with emotion on the Grammys to Joni Mitchell, Annie Lennox, Tracy Chapman; I go back to the last album of Natalie Merchant (recorded after 9 years of silence and health problems) or the albums of Norwegian jazz singer Inger Marie Gundersen (who is like an old Viking sailor: talking about the storm, she doesn't even have to raise her voice, and so everyone in the tavern believes)... and I dream that life will give Celine a chance to find her own voice so deeply, already without proving that she can, without nervously looking at trends and without obsessing about placement in the race. All she needs is to have young creative people around her, and within herself all that she is going through and who she is now. And health... It would be downright too cruel to take away her voice right now.

 

 

And maybe if he's involved, it would strip out some of the "cheese" factor from her work... Much as Rene built an amazing career for her, I think he's to blame for a lot of her material being so bland and schmaltzy. All song submissions went through him, he was the gate keeper in every way, and I don't think it always benefitted her. I think Celine's natural inclinations were far more "edgy" - after all she was trying to be a rocker chick before she got guided down the "Hallmark love ballad" lane. And I think she's at a point in her life, especially post SPS diagnosis, where she can have an IDGAF attitude and just pursue the things that truly resonate with her. There's a lot of promise in that.

 

 

All the more so! "Courage" was such a promising start to emancipation... In this respect, it can only get better.

 

That's so true. It's always been nearly impossible for her to break away from that reputation for the saccharine and idealistic but that's not how people see her now.

 

I think there are still many who think so - but Irene Taylor's documentary will probably be a breakthrough in her image.

[scielle]

Oh, and one more thing about RC - what are all those French tabloids gonna do now? You know, all the ones that for the past few months were like “they’re estranged, not talking, etc.” 😏

 

Also, he seems to have a lot of fans (or people just collectively feeling old!). This post has 170k likes -

 

And posts like this - https://x.com/matthewsuber/status/1754644901021503755?s=46&t=KburVnIlbG-qOHJebY8elA

 

Edited February 6, 2024 at 02:06 PM by scielle

[kaye2023]

 

 

Imagine being treated so awfully on-stage, then asked for a PR photo as soon as you both step off, obvious to all parties it's for damage control... Someone on a different board commented being backstage and seeing her team scramble to make it happen, with pic dispatched to channels immediately. Impressive team, tbf. Céline really is too nice. I can't see Mariah or the late Aretha Franklin giving a s***, and just walking away in a huff lol

[célinedionfan_16]

So yesterday I was so upset about the Taylor Swift thing.. I couldn't believe she would disrespect our beautiful Celine like that. But now I'm actually okay with it lol. It's amazing how much love Celine's getting online. It's like everyone came to her rescue and it reminded me how much people really love her. So maybe this was a blessing in disguise? Either way, I'm happy that Celine is back and I'm happy that she's getting some attention in the media

[mebe]

Celine is still trending on X this morning !

 

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[scielle]

But now I'm actually okay with it lol. It's amazing how much love Celine's getting online. It's like everyone came to her rescue and it reminded me how much people really love her. So maybe this was a blessing in disguise?

 

I think it is. A lot of people - not necessarily Celine fans - coming out of the woodwork in her defense / to shower her with love. I've noticed some that have historically treated her as a joke in the past come around and actually treat her with reverence.

 

Celine had put so much love and light into the world for years, and it's so nice to see it reflected back on her now. She has always been so gracious, professional, and supportive of other artists. No beef, no drama, all class. There's just so much respect for her from everyone, regardless of whether they know or care about her music. Just respect for her as a person and consummate professional. When you give, the universe gives back. It's beautiful to see so much love for her.

 

I don't know Taylor or anything about her career, really, so not in a position to comment on that, but it's interesting to see the PR scramble to clean up the faux pas. I bet there were a lot of Google searches this week for "what are triggers of SPS spasms" or some such.

Edited February 6, 2024 at 02:59 PM by scielle

[célinedionfan_16]

I think it is. A lot of people - not necessarily Celine fans - coming out of the woodwork in her defense / to shower her with love. I've noticed some that have historically treated her as a joke in the past come around and actually treat her with reverence.

 

Celine had put so much love and light into the world for years, and it's so nice to see it reflected back on her now. She has always been so gracious, professional, and supportive of other artists. No beef, no drama, all class. There's just so much respect for her from everyone, regardless of whether they know or care about her music. Just respect for her as a person and consummate professional. When you give, the universe gives back. It's beautiful to see so much love for her.

 

I don't know Taylor or anything about her career, really, so not in a position to comment on that, but it's interesting to see the PR scramble to clean up the faux pas. I bet there were a lot of Google searches this week for "what are triggers of SPS spasms" or some such.

 

 

Couldn't have said it better myself. When I saw it happen live I remember thinking "What a slap in the face! Our poor Celine isn't relevant anymore. " The internet proved me wrong and I couldn't be happier!!

[Nmj]

 

 

I think it is. A lot of people - not necessarily Celine fans - coming out of the woodwork in her defense / to shower her with love. I've noticed some that have historically treated her as a joke in the past come around and actually treat her with reverence.

 

Celine had put so much love and light into the world for years, and it's so nice to see it reflected back on her now. She has always been so gracious, professional, and supportive of other artists. No beef, no drama, all class. There's just so much respect for her from everyone, regardless of whether they know or care about her music. Just respect for her as a person and consummate professional. When you give, the universe gives back. It's beautiful to see so much love for her.

 

I don't know Taylor or anything about her career, really, so not in a position to comment on that, but it's interesting to see the PR scramble to clean up the faux pas. I bet there were a lot of Google searches this week for "what are triggers of SPS spasms" or some such.

 

I think Sunday was a good day for everyone other than that one “snub” of a moment. Celine looked amazing , she looked healthy and strong, nervous and excited to be onstage again. Also, when she first announced her diagnosis it brought alot of attention to SPS… but as you said I’m sure those numbers went up again after her appearance. Personally, and selfishly, I hope we see more of her soon… hopefully she takes her boys to the Super Bowl this Sunday in Vegas.

[Zofia]

On the one hand, yes: if it weren't for this nasty affront, there wouldn't be so much buzz in the media. On the other hand, I think it's us rather than her who are sweetening this unpleasant moment as representatives of Internet civilization. Celine is old-school, for her it was probably that special moment that mattered most - the first time on a big stage in four years. It was supposed to be a touching reunion of giants/artists of different generations - something that worked out so touchingly for Joni and Brandi, Mariah and Miley, Tracy and Luk. I don't know if the embarrassment and humiliation she suffered there is made up for by confessions of love on the Internet, for all that her team members read those comments to her to cheer her up. I hope she doesn't regret her decision, but the memories of that evening are likely to be bittersweet.

[mirage]

 

Honestly, I truly look forward to that. I've always loved her lower register. And I always thin about that think she said circa 2013 or so, when there were some rumors about a potential jazz/ blues record, something along the lines of "for jazz, you really need to have lived". Well over the last decade she really has...

(I'm not saying I expect anything in that genre, just that there's gravitas attached to anything she does now, which was never quite there before. There's a life lived, if you will. And that makes anything she does next that much more interesting.)

I love the belting 90s power, but it's normal that's she won't be capable of doing it.

But remember what she did on Wicked Game? No belting, lower register and damn she sounded amazing!

I'll take that anyday over her wanna sound like Sia voice.

 

Even my friends didn't recognized her and loved it.

 

For what it's worth, Dee replied to a message of me.

I said I loved the hair, and loved to see celine out and about.

Didn't think she would replied, normally they don't.

 

But this was her reply:

 

"Thank you! She is a fighter!!! Her will is incredible! She will be back one day! I have confidence."

 

Nothing we didn't know, but it's nice to hear something from someone 'close'

 

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[Nmj]

I love the belting 90s power, but it's normal that's she won't be capable of doing it.

But remember what she did on Wicked Game? No belting, lower register and damn she sounded amazing!

I'll take that anyday over her wanna sound like Sia voice.

 

Even my friends didn't recognized her and loved it.

 

For what it's worth, Dee replied to a message of me.

I said I loved the hair, and loved to see celine out and about.

Didn't think she would replied, normally they don't.

 

But this was her reply:

 

"Thank you! She is a fighter!!! Her will is incredible! She will be back one day! I have confidence."

 

Nothing we didn't know, but it's nice to hear something from someone 'close'

 

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Couple that with Barnev reply to me last week when I asked if he still works with Celine or will only pursue the solo career as he’s doing. He told me that he still works for Celine as well. Again, nothing we don’t know but it’s still reassuring to really know the “intention” is still to return to the stage one day soon… whether that happens or not we don’t know, let’s all pray for it as fans and for Celine because she doesn’t need the money or the fame… she already has that; she clearly wants to return from her heart.