Team Celine - suggestions and improvements

[garyhollander]

Uh-oh. We have a foamer, folks! Look out! I hope none of you get any on you!

Uh oh my foam wouldnt want to touch you either

[garyhollander]

Even Cher has embraced social media.

Good for her thats not celine not everybody needs to be connected to social media!!

[Nmj]

Good for her thats not celine not everybody needs to be connected to social media!!

 

Celine doesn’t “need” to be connected neither does Cher for that matter, why do you think Cher ( or any other artist ) for example has social media??? It’s to connect with their fans, stay in touch with the people who buy your albums, go to your shows, support your perfumes, support your golf club, your smoked meat deli, and weird as hell child clothing line... etc.

Edited April 11, 2021 at 04:42 PM by Nmj

[PuraVida]

Actually it is not i just react to people are being ... none of my own posts are negative so try again..

 

Two wrongs don't make a right. And name-calling and telling people they need to see a doctor is a step too far. And you're continuing to do it. People can disagree but calling them "morons" and suggesting they have psychiatric problems is too far.

 

"Check yourself before you come for me" ..... this is a Celine Dion forum, not some back alley for a fight.

Edited April 11, 2021 at 05:01 PM by PuraVida

[couldawouldashoulda]

 

 

Celine doesn’t “need” to be connected neither does Cher for that matter, why do you think Cher ( or any other artist ) for example has social media??? It’s to connect with their fans, stay in touch with the people who buy your albums, go to your shows, support your perfumes, support your golf club, your smoked meat deli, and weird as hell child clothing line... etc.

 

But that’s not Celine. She’s not a social media person. That’s what some people on here just can’t seem to understand. She doesn’t want to connect with her fans in that way. Now, I can understand questioning why she has a social media account if she doesn’t use it more often. But I think the answer to that is, in this day and age, you HAVE to have an account but you get to choose how much or how little you want to use it. Celine’s fans want her to use it a lot. Celine herself wants to use it very little.

[Nmj]

 

 

But that’s not Celine. She’s not a social media person. That’s what some people on here just can’t seem to understand. She doesn’t want to connect with her fans in that way. Now, I can understand questioning why she has a social media account if she doesn’t use it more often. But I think the answer to that is, in this day and age, you HAVE to have an account but you get to choose how much or how little you want to use it. Celine’s fans want her to use it a lot. Celine herself wants to use it very little.

 

That’s fine, then she can stop calling herself an “open book”.

 

Celine said herself on that A/E biography special around year 2005ish, that you “can’t just say to your fans, buy my records, buy tickets to the show; and then leave me alone.”

 

Celine can do what makes her happy, but to say she’s an “open book” to me is a stretch... she shared private things not much more than any other celebrity in her place.

[Xpresso]

She's an open book, but a half-open or half-closed (your choice) social media!

[couldawouldashoulda]

 

 

That’s fine, then she can stop calling herself an “open book”.

 

Celine said herself on that A/E biography special around year 2005ish, that you “can’t just say to your fans, buy my records, buy tickets to the show; and then leave me alone.”

 

Celine can do what makes her happy, but to say she’s an “open book” to me is a stretch... she shared private things not much more than any other celebrity in her place.

 

Yeah, I’ve never bought the “my life is an open book line” from her. It’s always rung false to me. She’s one of the most isolated, private people in show business.

[Nmj]

 

 

Yeah, I’ve never bought the “my life is an open book line” from her. It’s always rung false to me. She’s one of the most isolated, private people in show business.

 

That’s all I’m saying. I don’t mind if she chooses not to embrace social media, but then in the same breath she can’t sell the “open book” bit anymore , yet she probably still will. I’m not saying she has to show us her every meal, or a mirror selfie ala Kardashians but if you don’t even post the most basic career related stuff or interact with the fans than that’s a different story.

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

 

 

That’s all I’m saying. I don’t mind if she chooses not to embrace social media, but then in the same breath she can’t sell the “open book” bit anymore , yet she probably still will. I’m not saying she has to show us her every meal, or a mirror selfie ala Kardashians but if you don’t even post the most basic career related stuff or interact with the fans than that’s a different story.

 

EXACTLY! Nobody is saying that Celine has "to give up her whole life & spend every second" on social media! I have read the posts on this thread (& in other threadson this forum as well,) & NOBODY HAD SAID ANY OF THAT @ ALL, NOT ONCE! For those of you who are accusing the rest of us on this forum of saying any of that, WE ARE DEFINITELY NOT! 🙄

 

Posting on social maybe once a month/once every 2 months is NOT "overworking her" & is "too demanding"! Sorry but it is not unreasonable! Ok yes maybe she might not "like using social media" that much... But lets face facts this is a different time than it was 10, 15, 20, 30 years ago! & hell we are still within a FREAKIN PANDEMIC & there is no end in sight (@ least not within this year theres no end!) & because of this pandemic which caused most of the world to take a long pause (including live entertainment such as concerts, Broadway shows, etc,) majority of people have had to RELY ON SOCIAL MEDIA to keep contact with each other! & like I had mentioned in a previous post recently, WE ARE ALL IN FACT USING SOCIAL MEDIA RIGHT NOW by using this forum! Yes this forum DOES count as social media! 😜

[PuraVida]

That’s all I’m saying. I don’t mind if she chooses not to embrace social media, but then in the same breath she can’t sell the “open book” bit anymore , yet she probably still will. I’m not saying she has to show us her every meal, or a mirror selfie ala Kardashians but if you don’t even post the most basic career related stuff or interact with the fans than that’s a different story.

 

There is no point in having a debate. She has social media, so she should use it well. As with her team. And it should be a well-run "Celine the artist" account, as no one ever said in had to be a Celine-the-person account. Chantemoi already made that distinction up above with great eloquence.

 

So, since she has social media, we are free to comment on how it was run. No one ever forced her to get an Instagram, and if she felt forced to get on social media as her artist persona, then why shouldn't she feel compelled to connect with fans even at a bare minimum rate?

 

Her team has gotten a lot better at it, but it could be better. And they probably improved because they were reading fans' opinions.

 

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About her sabbatical, it's obviously not a 100% sabbatical because she has posted photos from her home life and conducted an interview with L'Oreal. And she did two appearances on COVID specials. So, if she is willing to do that, then I think a few small videos, like Annie Lennox has done, would have been great. It takes just as much time. As Celine herself said, music is theraputic....it could help both her and her fans get through the pandemic and to feel love from fans which can be expressed. We already knew she is probably singing or being musical all the time.

 

It's not about monetization, it's to connect for both parties' benefits. I doubt her team even brings this idea up to her because they are so inept. That's why I think the #SayYesCeline campaign is a brilliant idea for these times. Because that is a bigger reward.

 

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Celine said herself "I miss you guys so much, I can't wait" and that she was hoping to be touring still. What's Team Celine's plan....to leave her unexposed until 2022? I feel that if she doesnt want to do anything (yes, her right, technically) then her team should do MORE tribute material from Falling Into You on her Instagram/Youtube.

[rfkavanagh]

That’s fine, then she can stop calling herself an “open book”.

 

Celine said herself on that A/E biography special around year 2005ish, that you “can’t just say to your fans, buy my records, buy tickets to the show; and then leave me alone.”

 

Celine can do what makes her happy, but to say she’s an “open book” to me is a stretch... she shared private things not much more than any other celebrity in her place.

 

To a great extent, the "open book" term is just as much a form of image management and marketing as any other PR talking points ("album of my life" and so on). But having said that, I think the meaning has shifted quite a lot in the last couple of decades so that what once seemed true of Céline now seems completely false - the entire paradigm has shifted since the rise of social media, etc.

 

In the past, compared to many artists, Céline did seem quite open - curated in what she chose to share and how, but still quite open. Today, when everyone and their dog feels the need to share every narcissistic detail of their life and career, it's seen as normal and even expected for artists to do the same - which has led to much of the conversation and expectations regarding Céline's level of activity on this forum!

 

But when Céline started out and on through the '90s, it wasn't actually that common for artists to talk openly and in detail about their relationship, their childhood insecurities, their fertility issues, their IVF process, their family, etc. - of course there were always a few, but they tended to be creative artists who used that life experience to inform their own writing rather than interpretive artists (and before anyone gets offended, I'm not saying Céline isn't creative; in this instance I'm simply pointing out that she wasn't fueling a writing process and revealing childhood trauma in her songs).

 

Céline shared her life through a carefully managed PR lens to be sure, but it still stood out and gave her the "open book" image because social media didn't exist at the time to give every other artist the same kind of platform. Now everything's flipped, and while Céline really hasn't changed how she handles those matters, the media and industry landscape has completely shifted and she now looks out of touch because she's not constantly engaging with fans on Facebook, showing them every visual detail of her day on Instagram, selling messages on Cameo, charging people for extra access via her Only Fans account, etc.

 

It's kind of fascinating in a sociological context. And beyond general philosophical and psychological differences in attitudes on here, I do wonder if there's also a bit of a generational difference in those who want more engagement from Céline vs. those who see no need and prefer her not to indulge inauthentically. And again, that's not a judgment; it just might help explain why there's so much division and difference between fans who can't understand why Céline doesn't see and understand the need for more participation and connection on regular basis vs. fans who can't understand why anyone would want or need that level of engagement.

[Celinelife]

 

 

Yeah, I’ve never bought the “my life is an open book line” from her. It’s always rung false to me. She’s one of the most isolated, private people in show business.

Sometimes I think whatever she says on the interview and TV is just a lie. A simple white lie. Lying Down music video, don't know how much its true. It is all for marketing. The open book stuff. Celine is misunderstood, she thinks saying that she is from the family of 14 siblings means that she is an open book.

But as a fan, we have to consider it true. Who knows where she was during "these incredibly difficult times", whether she was with her kids? Whether that Christmas photo is from last year or not? And more.

[Xpresso]

Actually Céline WAS an open book until the twins were born. At that point, she became more private. But until then, she was talking about stuff nobody would even talk about. Like mentioning how many embryos were still frozen!! Media often made fun of her for saying too much. I even remember a newspaper article that was comparing the open book that Céline was to Shania's very private personal life. I think that triggered the switch. Same thing for actors. Keeping some secrecy is a very good thing! So Céline, please don't overdo it on social media.

[garyhollander]

Celine doesn't "need" to be connected neither does Cher for that matter, why do you think Cher ( or any other artist ) for example has social media??? It's to connect with their fans, stay in touch with the people who buy your albums, go to your shows, support your perfumes, support your golf club, your smoked meat deli, and weird as hell child clothing line... etc.

Yeah thats why you see those generic postings on her social media!! because she has told people over and over again she doesnt even have a phone.. she tries to disconnect when she is off from this world.. It's your expectation of what needs to be your not excepting the artists as she is.. her prime is over she no need to prove anything she is dealing with herself and suchh.. See how muhc adele posts on social media.. So stop comparing her to artists who love to be connected in social media to her as she makes her connection when she performs she says this one million of times just fans waht her to be ariana grande again.,

[garyhollander]

Two wrongs don't make a right. And name-calling and telling people they need to see a doctor is a step too far. And you're continuing to do it. People can disagree but calling them "morons" and suggesting they have psychiatric problems is too far.

 

"Check yourself before you come for me" ..... this is a Celine Dion forum, not some back alley for a fight.

You see your projecting on me again never said that anybody had psychiatric problems thats what you make of it.. I just said if you dont see anything wrong in what your saying you should check in with someone who can explain it to you... there are some morrons on this forum thats my opinion... there are some egothistical people also, and there are some celine fans who love her and love who she is not what others want her to be... Thats the categories i have place some people here on the forum makes it easier for me when I'm dealing with one of the three... Didn't call you a moron you fall under the egotistical categorie..

 

And im not looking for a fight with no one.. it's a saying that if you come with receipts for me than make sure they are acccurat hehe check your source check your information thats all im saying

[garyhollander]

That’s fine, then she can stop calling herself an “open book”.

 

Celine said herself on that A/E biography special around year 2005ish, that you “can’t just say to your fans, buy my records, buy tickets to the show; and then leave me alone.”

 

Celine can do what makes her happy, but to say she’s an “open book” to me is a stretch... she shared private things not much more than any other celebrity in her place.

 

Because she calls herself an open book has nothing to do weith social media... When they ask her about a private question and she answers telling you whats she wants you to know about it thn yeah she is an open book doens tmean she has to share everything on social mediaa!! Everybody chooses where and how they would like to share information

[Celinelife]

Team Celine uploaded the behind the scenes of Its All Coming Back To Me Now!! Great Work, TC!🎉🎊

[PuraVida]

You see your projecting on me again never said that anybody had psychiatric problems thats what you make of it.. I just said if you dont see anything wrong in what your saying you should check in with someone who can explain it to you... there are some morrons on this forum thats my opinion... there are some egothistical people also, and there are some celine fans who love her and love who she is not what others want her to be... Thats the categories i have place some people here on the forum makes it easier for me when I'm dealing with one of the three... Didn't call you a moron you fall under the egotistical categorie..

 

And im not looking for a fight with no one.. it's a saying that if you come with receipts for me than make sure they are acccurat hehe check your source check your information thats all im saying

 

 

"Check yourself, drama queens, morons, selfish, needy, make an appointment, get professional insight" those are all words you have used in this thread.

 

Your implications are very clear in your language. If you want to be nasty, go head; you're technically free to write whatever you want, but don't be nasty and lecture people about negativity.

Edited April 12, 2021 at 04:39 PM by PuraVida

[DionFanAlways]

Team Celine uploaded the behind the scenes of Its All Coming Back To Me Now!! Great Work, TC!🎉🎊

I can’t wait to see it!

[Xpresso]

Because she calls herself an open book has nothing to do weith social media... When they ask her about a private question and she answers telling you whats she wants you to know about it thn yeah she is an open book doens tmean she has to share everything on social mediaa!! Everybody chooses where and how they would like to share information

Very good point!

[garyhollander]

"Check yourself, drama queens, morons, selfish, needy, make an appointment, get professional insight" those are all words you have used in this thread.

 

Your implications are very clear in your language. If you want to be nasty, go head; you're technically free to write whatever you want, but don't be nasty and lecture people about negativity.

Again not being negative, just stating facts i have receipts to prove it so no im not nasty, im actually a very nice person but what i hate is when people act pretencious or like someone owes them something,, or make selfish statesments so look in the mirror again

[Chantemoi]

Let's remember that TC will eventually read these posts... how about saving the in-fighting for private messages?

[maki_Dion-er]

Why do defenders of Celine's sm presence keep arguing that she doesn't have to share every little detail of her day when it's been repeated several times that that is not what is being asked.

 

The argument being made is that Celine's sm account should have quality over quantity. It's never been about Celine or TC posting more but that what they do post matter, that's it's of value.

 

They could post twice a month and it'd be fine if it's something truly interesting. And we've also been talking about their activity during a milestone celebration of her biggest album.

 

Celine is an open book in that if she's asked she'll answer. And she is still that way. It might seem less because she does less interviews now than in the past and possibly because there's not much new to ask/tell in terms of her personal life.

 

 

Anyway, I hope we get a new picture (video? 🤞) of her soon. Nature pic, fashion, thinking back on FIY, idc.

Edited April 14, 2021 at 10:59 PM by maki_Dion-er

[Celinelife]

Okay, mow what do you think of Behind The Scenes Of Its All Coming Back To Me Now?

[ordinary fan]

Okay, mow what do you think of Behind The Scenes Of Its All Coming Back To Me Now?

That is quality and goes defenitely in the direction of stuff I like to get from her

[Xpresso]

Okay, mow what do you think of Behind The Scenes Of Its All Coming Back To Me Now?

Check the Falling Into You thread. It's discussed there.

[Celinelife]

TC is doing a great thing after all. What is left is music videos of Call The Man, Because You Loved Me

[sarit_celine]

Annie Lennox has stayed quarantined in her house in LA for basically a whole year, and her Instagram is amazing. The stuff she puts out is a treasure, all from her piano in her living room with an iPhone and her voice. She even just posted old performances she randomly found.

 

Even just sharing her quarantine playlist would be great. It would be different if Celine never sang around the house (like Streisand), but we know Celine cannot stop herself from singing. I just think she has no people around her who know anything about social media.

 

But the people who are hired to do things could literally dig in the archives and post old footage, rare stuff....but they don't. Who knows what goes on in their brains? And, she could at least engage with certain social media stories online to keep her in the public eye---she gets brought up all the time! Why be on Twitter and Instagram if you're social media strategy is going to be so bad.

 

I get it that Celine put a clear line between her personal life and her career life, but the thing is that there are so many rare stuff they can pull out for the meanwhile, at least until the Tour will be resumed, just like they released the amazing gift of IACBTMN's behind the scenes, they can let us see some behind the scenes of the Courage video, to hear Celine talking about MV or what the song means for her is always so lovely. I'm afraid things won't never change, until she will change her team.

[Celinelife]

 

 

I get it that Celine put a clear line between her personal life and her career life, but the thing is that there are so many rare stuff they can pull out for the meanwhile, at least until the Tour will be resumed, just like they released the amazing gift of IACBTMN's behind the scenes, they can let us see some behind the scenes of the Courage video, to hear Celine talking about MV or what the song means for her is always so lovely. I'm afraid things won't never change, until she will change her team.

We have to admit that IACBTMN behind the scenes was out of nowhere and was really appreciated. For Courage, let just say that it will need another 24 years for them to celebrate this album with music videos of LD and behind the scenes