Team Celine - suggestions and improvements

[PuraVida]

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They uploaded LIM? I only see SM and DOL.

 

Sorry, I had to respond to an April Fools joke with an April Fools joke of my own lol.

[Céline RO]

I hated it so much I didn't even take the time to read the answer choices. It's even worse than one could guess.

 

It's like the tongue-in-cheek question at the bar trivia, the easy 1st round...

APRIL FOOLS!

I just made that up. I didn't click the link either.

 

You guys made me click the link to see what it was all about and I have to say I was less disappointed than I expected. At least they put more effort into this one than previous ones, though I don’t know if that’s such a good thing.

 

Also, did anyone else notice that they got the date wrong for Céline’s performance of “A Change is Gonna Come”? They said it was 29 January 2019 when it was in fact 13 January that she performed and it aired on 10 March. They also said that “Seduces Me” is Céline’s favorite track on FIY, not just “one of her favorites” as she had previously stated.

[comingback]

 

 

 

You guys made me click the link to see what it was all about and I have to say I was less disappointed than I expected. At least they put more effort into this one than previous ones, though I don’t know if that’s such a good thing.

 

Also, did anyone else notice that they got the date wrong for Céline’s performance of “A Change is Gonna Come”? They said it was 29 January 2019 when it was in fact 13 January that she performed and it aired on 10 March. They also said that “Seduces Me” is Céline’s favorite track on FIY, not just “one of her favorites” as she had previously stated.

 

In the Rosie interview with the SM performance, she said SM it's her favorite song from FIY.

[PuraVida]

You guys made me click the link to see what it was all about and I have to say I was less disappointed than I expected. At least they put more effort into this one than previous ones, though I don’t know if that’s such a good thing.

 

Also, did anyone else notice that they got the date wrong for Céline’s performance of “A Change is Gonna Come”? They said it was 29 January 2019 when it was in fact 13 January that she performed and it aired on 10 March. They also said that “Seduces Me” is Céline’s favorite track on FIY, not just “one of her favorites” as she had previously stated.

 

Into the quizzes? I am glad we know what her favourite track off the album is. It's cool she performed it in Vegas.

 

Also funny how you say "more effort" then meanwhile they get the date wrong

[Celinelife]

If Seduces Me is her favourite song then why doesn't she perform it live? She always says this with every song, she said something like this with Courage, that it is very close to her heart and yet her team did nothing to promote it

[sarit_celine]

The sad thing is that today one doesn't have to put big efforts to stay in the public eye

but most important it's the relation with the hardcore fans, where it's missing big time here

time and time again. It's such a pity.

 

As for social media content, there are some that even doesn't have to get out of their bed, for example

https://www.facebook.com/ShaniaTwain/posts/295935031894742

 

I love how she keeps the positive vibe.

 

Shania other's post is wonderful:

 

I am having such a blast sharing my favourite music and stories with all of you on Home Now Radio and I want to get you guys involved and hear your stories! Send me a voice note of any stories or questions you have associated to my music to shaniahomenowradio@gmail.com and I’ll play a few on my show in a new segment we’re calling =AZUCFaAdJSRR0a3ru_JaEFpfIeTyDo5XsshNkwLoVXgNNS7qhuNOS0zEE-lKxsuMJzPeupwsad1KAL9m2ybxBXTzI8CMYvC8HwVDZHw7PyUe_BepS3Z2onYHC0Lq04ZMaJXbBx7nAmlKq07NG8Bzhil4&__tn__=*NK-R"]#DearShania Can’t wait to hear them

 

 

 

I can't compare Celine to Mariah and Shania, LV prison just took out all the motivation she once used to had

but it's normal given the young age she started her career. Anyway, the engagement with fans always must come from

the artist itself, and again veterans like Shania proves how easy it can be.

 

I miss Rene, really. It's unthinkable and shame what they didn't do regarding the 25th anniversary of FIY.

[PuraVida]

The sad thing is that today one doesn't have to put big efforts to stay in the public eye

but most important it's the relation with the hardcore fans, where it's missing big time here

time and time again. It's such a pity.

 

As for social media content, there are some that even doesn't have to get out of their bed, for example

https://www.facebook...295935031894742

 

I love how she keeps the positive vibe.

 

Shania other's post is wonderful:

 

I am having such a blast sharing my favourite music and stories with all of you on Home Now Radio and I want to get you guys involved and hear your stories! Send me a voice note of any stories or questions you have associated to my music to shaniahomenowradio@gmail.com and I’ll play a few on my show in a new segment we’re calling https://www.facebook...earShania[/url] Can’t wait to hear them

 

 

 

I can't compare Celine to Mariah and Shania, LV prison just took out all the motivation she once used to had

but it's normal given the young age she started her career. Anyway, the engagement with fans always must come from

the artist itself, and again veterans like Shania proves how easy it can be.

 

I miss Rene, really. It's unthinkable and shame what they didn't do regarding the 25th anniversary of FIY.

 

Annie Lennox has stayed quarantined in her house in LA for basically a whole year, and her Instagram is amazing. The stuff she puts out is a treasure, all from her piano in her living room with an iPhone and her voice. She even just posted old performances she randomly found.

 

Even just sharing her quarantine playlist would be great. It would be different if Celine never sang around the house (like Streisand), but we know Celine cannot stop herself from singing. I just think she has no people around her who know anything about social media.

 

But the people who are hired to do things could literally dig in the archives and post old footage, rare stuff....but they don't. Who knows what goes on in their brains? And, she could at least engage with certain social media stories online to keep her in the public eye---she gets brought up all the time! Why be on Twitter and Instagram if you're social media strategy is going to be so bad.

Edited April 2, 2021 at 10:58 AM by PuraVida

[Celinelife]

 

 

Annie Lennox has stayed quarantined in her house in LA for basically a whole year, and her Instagram is amazing. The stuff she puts out is a treasure, all from her piano in her living room with an iPhone and her voice. She even just posted old performances she randomly found.

 

Even just sharing her quarantine playlist would be great. It would be different if Celine never sang around the house (like Streisand), but we know Celine cannot stop herself from singing. I just think she has no people around her who know anything about social media.

 

But the people who are hired to do things could literally dig in the archives and post old footage, rare stuff....but they don't. Who knows what goes on in their brains? And, she could at least engage with certain social media stories online to keep her in the public eye---she gets brought up all the time! Why be on Twitter and Instagram if you're social media strategy is going to be so bad.

That is what I'm Thinking too....it is not necessary for TC to only post photos click with Professional Camera. It is an Instagram account. I want Celine Dion selfie,her cooking food, and playing golf or whatever. That is what an account is, at least for me.

And can anyone tell me why TC handles her Instagram account and not she herself?

[Nmj]

If Seduces Me is her favourite song then why doesn't she perform it live? She always says this with every song, she said something like this with Courage, that it is very close to her heart and yet her team did nothing to promote it

 

Well for once in her defense, she dedicated 5 years to “Seduces Me” with A New Day... and actually gave it one of the biggest visual moments of the show... very well done not only with the dancing but the lighting, effects, smoke etc.

[Xpresso]

Well for once in her defense, she dedicated 5 years to “Seduces Me” with A New Day... and actually gave it one of the biggest visual moments of the show... very well done not only with the dancing but the lighting, effects, smoke etc.

Exactly. I wish they would use that performance and release it as an official music video even years after the fact. It's one of my favorites!

[ryba]

Exactly. I wish they would use that performance and release it as an official music video even years after the fact. It's one of my favorites!

yes, they could do that with I Surrender as well, the visuals in that show were stunning and basically every performance could serve as a music video

[Chantemoi]

And, she could at least engage with certain social media stories online to keep her in the public eye---she gets brought up all the time! Why be on Twitter and Instagram if you're social media strategy is going to be so bad.

 

The million dollar question. And don’t give me that “she’s just a singer” excuse. If she wanted to sing for singing for sake, she would sing for free. Or she would quit the biz and join a church choir or sing for charity or something.

Edited April 2, 2021 at 01:53 PM by Chantemoi

[couldawouldashoulda]

Celine doesn't need to be active on social media to sell concert tickets. She does a really good job of that without having to post herself cooking.

[scielle]

Celine has no obligation to engage with social media. Perhaps, like many of us, she feels it's a soul-crushing chore. There are more than enough people out there who feel the need to share their every inane passing thought and honestly, they're a drag. I appreciate her taking the high road and not doing so for the sake of cheap publicity. Especially now. I'd like to think Celine can read the room and appreciates that it's a difficult time for so many people, and last thing they need is another celebrity streaming from their mansion, when so many are losing their jobs, homes, loved ones.

 

And more importantly, she has every right to unplug and do her own thing for a while. To everyone complaining she’s “sleeping on her career” during the pandemic - what have you all done with your careers during COVID? Posting on a Celine Dion forum doesn’t exactly scream “productivity” (and I include myself in that). Why doesn’t she have the right to spend her time in nature or binge-watching Netflix like the rest of us?

[couldawouldashoulda]

^ This is perfectly stated. Agree 1000%

[Celinelife]

Celine doesn't need to be active on social media to sell concert tickets. She does a really good job of that without having to post herself cooking.

I was not specifically saying that she has to post her cooking pictures.(gosh you really took it seriously 😂)

"Celine doesn't need to be active on social media to sell concert tickets."

Then what does she need to do in this social media-ed world?

Edited April 2, 2021 at 04:28 PM by Celinelife

[scielle]

Then what does she need to do in this social media-ed world?

 

Nothing. She needs to do nothing, unless she enjoys it and wants to.

 

If she were 20, grew up with a phone glued to her hand day and night, and regular posting was something she enjoyed and just a natural part of her existence, that would be another story.

But if she's like many of us, trying to keep up a social media presence is a chore and frankly, just another job. Nothing pleasurable about it. I certainly have no interest in doing it, and I more than understand if she doesn't either, especially since anything she posts would have so much more scrutiny and tabloid coverage than anything from the rest of us. (Let's be honest, all these tabloids already pick up pretty much everything posted on her accounts and turn it into "articles" to generate clicks.) Why provide them with extra fodder about your personal life? Who would want that?

She posts sporadically, when she has something to say. The rest of her life is her business. I respect that. This expectation we've been conditioned into, that everyone with a public career somehow owes us daily social media commentary, is just so unhealthy.

[guigafs15]

Celine has no obligation to engage with social media. Perhaps, like many of us, she feels it's a soul-crushing chore. There are more than enough people out there who feel the need to share their every inane passing thought and honestly, they're a drag. I appreciate her taking the high road and not doing so for the sake of cheap publicity. Especially now. I'd like to think Celine can read the room and appreciates that it's a difficult time for so many people, and last thing they need is another celebrity streaming from their mansion, when so many are losing their jobs, homes, loved ones.

 

And more importantly, she has every right to unplug and do her own thing for a while. To everyone complaining she’s “sleeping on her career” during the pandemic - what have you all done with your careers during COVID? Posting on a Celine Dion forum doesn’t exactly scream “productivity” (and I include myself in that). Why doesn’t she have the right to spend her time in nature or binge-watching Netflix like the rest of us?

 

Just another excuse for being lazy. But just to answer your question, I've been doing my job the way I'm supposed to. The weeks have 7 days, the days have 24 hours. I don't need to be working 24/7 to be considered productive. I can be productive and do social media and be with my family...

 

You may not be bothered by Celine's lack of interaction with her fans, some don't and that's fine, but you don't need to get excuses for it. It's part of her job and she is not doing it properly (or at all, tbh).

 

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

Celine doesn't need to be active on social media to sell concert tickets. She does a really good job of that without having to post herself cooking.

 

Ummm hello posting on social media has NOT always have to do with "selling tickets & merchandise", because if that was the case, then 90-95 percent of people would NOT be posting on social media unless they were selling products (& again most people who use social media ARE NOT selling products; most people use social media to SOCIALIZE & INTERACT with others - hence the name SOCIAL MEDIA!)

 

So according to you, ONLY people who are sellubg products/service should use social media, but people who are NOT selling anything should stop using social media... Ok so since I DO NOT SELL ANYTHING on social media (or sell anything @ all, I am a daycare teacher not a salesperson/retail person,) I guess I should DELETE all of my social media accounts since I do not have anything to sell... according to your logic...

 

See where Im getting @ now?

 

Sorry but your post makes no sense @ all...

[scielle]

Just another excuse for being lazy. But just to answer your question, I've been doing my job the way I'm supposed to. The weeks have 7 days, the days have 24 hours. I don't need to be working 24/7 to be considered productive. I can be productive and do social media and be with my family...

 

Good for you. Have a cookie. Just because you choose to do so doesn't mean she, or anyone else, has some kind of obligation to do the same. For many of us, it's a toxic waste of time and not something we have any remote interest in.

 

You may not be bothered by Celine's lack of interaction with her fans, some don't and that's fine, but you don't need to get excuses for it. It's part of her job and she is not doing it properly (or at all, tbh).

 

She interacts with her fans plenty. I'm yet to see anyone of her stature spend hours after a show signing autographs.

And no, providing a constant feed to every of her social media channels while on vacation is NOT her job. That's a whole other job. If she wants to do it - great. If she doesn't, its her prerogative. She can spend the rest of her life on a farm in Quebec and never show her face in public again. She doesn't owe anybody daily IG stories.

[Xpresso]

Stars (and anyone) who always post on social media are narcissists in my book! Look at me, look at what I did. Look, look!

 

I think it's much better for Celine to make herself wanted instead of being in everyone's face with ridiculous posts like many celebs do.

 

And no, it's not part of her job or anyone's for that matter. She can post something if she feels like it, and if she doesn't... well no big deal. Just go view other singers' great social posts if you need that so badly.

[mirage]

But her social media team, the ones who actually get paid to do this are.

 

They have tons of footage in the archives that easily could be shared.

 

Upload all the videos in HD, upload all her music on Spotify, the singles, the remixes, maybe some demos for another album anniversary.

 

Upload some memorable performances on YouTube.

And yeah here she is, Mariah uploaded her Top of the Pops performances in HD when celebrating her 30th anniversary. Demos, remixes etc.

Stuff like that where celine doesn't need to do a thing, but would satisfy many fans

 

Celine doesn't need to do a thing with social media.

Maybe when she is back working, like they did in the beginning just a quick backstage video, a quick hello.

 

Would love to see her daily stuff on Instagram, but I know that's never gonna happen.

But I do know that back with Aldo her socials were on point.

Little video of her before the Grammys, a quick hello from Paris.

Stuff like that will do it.

Not just fashion pictures only.

 

 

 

Celine has no obligation to engage with social media.

[smw]

Stars (and anyone) who always post on social media are narcissists in my book! Look at me, look at what I did. Look, look!

 

I think it's much better for Celine to make herself wanted instead of being in everyone's face with ridiculous posts like many celebs do.

 

And no, it's not part of her job or anyone's for that matter. She can post something if she feels like it, and if she doesn't... well no big deal. Just go view other singers' great social posts if you need that so badly.

 

I want to be believe this... that an artist doesn't have to play the social media game.

And I totally agree that some artists can come across as narcissists.

However... it makes me think about how Blockbuster didn't progress / evolve with the times.

And then they became totally irrelevant and went under as streaming dominated and became the new way to watch movies.

 

Blockbuster is a bit of an extreme example... but it's still a good cautionary tale!

 

In my opinion, it's crucial for Celine to keep up with the times.

And social media, like it or not, is a huge part of that these days.

That's the way it is.

 

Same goes for streaming music... (which is why it blows my mind that her team just erased a music video with over 100 million views).

These days it's all about streaming and social media for music artists... along with concerts.

 

With that said, I understand right now she's taking a well deserved break.

But I do hope her social media regains steam again once her new projects are rolling out and the tour relaunches. (Her fashion posts seemed to be the most successful in the past, as far as engagement.)

I rarely expect Celine to lift a finger when it comes to her social media... but her team is just far too unimaginative when it comes to promoting her image.

 

Fortunately, Celine is still an untouchable force when it comes to selling concert tickets.

Rene and Celine were so wise to build up her amazing legacy as a live performer, and she has reaped those benefits to this very day.

Everyone knows Celine Dion is phenomenal live and her show is a must-see... even if you don't listen to her new music / keep up with her / follow her on social media.

 

And she will always have her past achievements... as far as huge album sales and awards.

It's just becoming more and more apparent that selling 250 million albums isn't on the forefront of anyone's minds anymore... it's all about followers, likes, streaming numbers, and views.

 

If Celine and her team choose to not keep up with the times, it's inevitable that she will become more and more irrelevant / out of touch / old-school. Just like Blockbuster. Which is totally fine if that's what she chooses.

 

But I guarantee... if those concert tickets stop selling, her team will certainly change their tune.

But, who knows, maybe her concert tickets will never stop selling!

So we might never hear those rare songs / see those rare performances / get new clips of Celine talking about her past repertoire / or get any of those juicy nuggets we wish she and her team would offer to us.

Edited April 2, 2021 at 07:22 PM by smw

[scielle]

But her social media team, the ones who actually get paid to do this are.

 

For sure. And whoever is doing it for her currently is extremely awkward. Those quizzes are embarrassing.

 

And she will always have her past achievements... as far as huge album sales and awards.

It's just becoming more and more apparent that selling 250 million albums isn't on the forefront of anyone's minds anymore... it's all about followers, likes, streaming numbers, and views.

 

Fact is, no matter how towering a legacy they have, legacy artists just don't stream anywhere near as well as current roster acts, no matter how many selfies they post. It's just the nature of the beast. Every catalog label (Sony Legacy Included) is working to get the album-buying demo to stream (see those Amazon billboards, Deezer playlists, Spotify single exclusives), but unless you and your audience are digital natives, you're just not going to stream like Drake or Ariana or The Weeknd, Teens have always dictated pop music trends and probably always will.

 

Oh, and P.S. about that 100m video deletion everyone here's so concerned about. That's water under the bridge. Of course streaming matters more than any other metric these days but it's not like those streams are not considered just because the video in question is no longer live. Record deal decisions are not based on A&R execs going through YouTube and adding up views from individual videos. There are industry data tools which aggregate this activity over time across all the artist's output, plus each of the DSPs provides reporting to the labels directly.

Edited April 2, 2021 at 07:41 PM by scielle

[maki_Dion-er]

Celine has no obligation to engage with social media. Perhaps, like many of us, she feels it's a soul-crushing chore. There are more than enough people out there who feel the need to share their every inane passing thought and honestly, they're a drag. I appreciate her taking the high road and not doing so for the sake of cheap publicity. Especially now. I'd like to think Celine can read the room and appreciates that it's a difficult time for so many people, and last thing they need is another celebrity streaming from their mansion, when so many are losing their jobs, homes, loved ones.

 

And more importantly, she has every right to unplug and do her own thing for a while. To everyone complaining she’s “sleeping on her career” during the pandemic - what have you all done with your careers during COVID? Posting on a Celine Dion forum doesn’t exactly scream “productivity” (and I include myself in that). Why doesn’t she have the right to spend her time in nature or binge-watching Netflix like the rest of us?

 

I partially agree. Celine doesn't "need" to use social media as much as other celebrities, nor would I want her to. Personally, I totally understand her aversion to sm because I'm not totally into it. That said, she does have one which means she and her team realize that in this day it's something useful to have. And since she has one all we are asking (or least I am) of her team is for it to be used wisely. For instance, they created this Facebook group and said they'd be posting exclusive content and from what I've been told nothing has come from it. They do fan art Friday's very sporadically even though there is art being done all the time. Her team could be liking comments on their posts to at least show some interaction with fans.

 

Celine likes to say that she has a relationship with her fans but, while I'm sure she does care about fans, she doesn't actually have a relationship with us (unless she's an internet lurker). And that is the point of social media, especially for celebrities. It's a gateway between artists and their fans, one that is hard to create in person due to security reasons. So while she doesn't need to share random pictures all the time, and I really appreciate that she's on social media at all, we can't pretend like having a little more interaction from her with fans wouldn't be amazing.

 

I don't need her to perform live from home to make me happy but as someone that voices these "tough times" every time she has made some comment this past year, someone that knows the comfort she brings to her fans just by posting a little video, it would have been a great thing to get at least one short q&a. Maybe not even on camera, maybe just answering questions on twitter. In an entire year, one instance like that isn't asking for the moon imo?

 

She doesn't want to do that. I get that. Still doesn't mean it isn't a shame she didn't do something like that. Perhaps she'll do it in the future when she's back to working.

 

As for what I've done that's productive, well, I'm a full time student, do some part-time work, and am a member of a fan campaign which turns out is a lot of work. Participating in a fan forum does not take that much time lol.

I am not criticizing her for taking a year off, and I don't agree with anyone that is doing that, because she has worked hard and is lucky enough to be in a place where she can take a long time off. She could easily retire but choses to work so I'm all for her taking time off, especially if it means she's resting her voice. Besides, even during her time off she has clearly been doing some work.

 

She interacts with her fans plenty. I'm yet to see anyone of her stature spend hours after a show signing autographs.

That's a very select set of fans. What of the fans that aren't in the city where she's performing, or can't afford to go to her shows, or know where to look for her. Social Media is accessible to almost everyone.

[scielle]

Would I love it if she took up pottery and posted daily vases a la Seth Rogen? Absolutely!

Do I begrudge her not doing so? Not at all.

 

Sure, I miss her. But this was a great opportunity for her to take some time off and away from the spotlight, and I hope it did her good. And any social media content from her would be only as good as it is genuine. If it's not something she enjoys and is interested in doing, it's just going to ring hollow anyway. That's why I think the fashion parades worked so well for her; it was just genuinely something she loved and naturally leaned into. But can you imagine constantly having to be "on" like that? It must be exhausting, even for an extreme extrovert like her.

 

But yes, her paid-for social media team is pitiful and is, in my opinion, doing her more of a disservice with some of the inane content they post. The fan art is great. The rest of it.. not so much.

[Céline RO]

Of course Céline isn’t obliged to do anything. However, she has chosen to be an “active” artist in 2021 and all of the things we are complaining she doesn’t do are things expected of an “active” artist in 2021. It is essential that she and her team truly embrace social media as well as all other advancements in the industry if Céline is to remain relevant and successful for years to come. Imagine being a teacher and refusing to adapt to online learning or a doctor who chooses not to make use of more modern and effective techniques or equipment. There’s nothing admirable about choosing to go against the trend in such cases. Fortunately for her, Céline is in a position where she really doesn’t have to work another day in her life and can choose the things she wants to do (which we all know is to perform in front of live audiences) but that’s not the case with her team. While Céline herself might not be a fan of social media, which is totally understandable, there are people on her team who probably earn a decent amount of money for managing her accounts. There is no excuse. Edited April 2, 2021 at 09:50 PM by Céline RO

[Céline RO]

If Seduces Me is her favourite song then why doesn't she perform it live? She always says this with every song, she said something like this with Courage, that it is very close to her heart and yet her team did nothing to promote it

 

She performed “Seduces Me” a lot actually, close to 1000 times (which really is A LOT compared to other songs of hers). As for “Courage”, she may not have promoted it but it still is the most performed song from the album so her argument still stands (not that she would have to perform a song to like it).

[PuraVida]

No one is obligated to do anything in life when it comes down to it. They just face consequences for not doing it.

 

What a wise or reasonable person's public persona would or should do is another matter, however. People don't seem to understand interests. Artists have an interest in connecting with their fans. People have an interest in being private or in sharing with friends, depending on the person. Fans have an interest in seeing as much of an artist as possible.

 

If these interests are competing, one can understand both sides. I just think if someone is going to be on social media, then do it well.

[PuraVida]

Would I love it if she took up pottery and posted daily vases a la Seth Rogen? Absolutely!

Do I begrudge her not doing so? Not at all.

 

Sure, I miss her. But this was a great opportunity for her to take some time off and away from the spotlight, and I hope it did her good. And any social media content from her would be only as good as it is genuine. If it's not something she enjoys and is interested in doing, it's just going to ring hollow anyway. That's why I think the fashion parades worked so well for her; it was just genuinely something she loved and naturally leaned into. But can you imagine constantly having to be "on" like that? It must be exhausting, even for an extreme extrovert like her.

 

But yes, her paid-for social media team is pitiful and is, in my opinion, doing her more of a disservice with some of the inane content they post. The fan art is great. The rest of it.. not so much.

 

Her team could post her old fashion looks that we haven't seen, or great photos from her fashion week attendances. She has an official photographer on her team, they were paid.

 

I think people create a false dichotomy. Many great artists maybe only post once or twice a month. That is totally an option, too.