Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELED

[Kristinaz]

So US/Canada border not due to be re-open unless 75% of the population is vaccinated which won't be anytime soon. Canada is estimating both jabs should be done by September. I just can't see how she is going to go through with this. BC yesterday ruled out any changes in current restrictions even though initially they wanted to start lifting restrictions after the long weekend.

[PuraVida]

So US/Canada border not due to be re-open unless 75% of the population is vaccinated which won't be anytime soon. Canada is estimating both jabs should be done by September. I just can't see how she is going to go through with this. BC yesterday ruled out any changes in current restrictions even though initially they wanted to start lifting restrictions after the long weekend.

 

Hopefully vaccinations roll out a lot quicker than expected. I think that happened in the USA.

[Kristinaz]

I might be selfish but I feel like they should allow the option of refund especially if they allow the shows to go through. Some people will not be comfy going to a massive show like that right away. I certainly won't and especially not since I have always been at high risk and will continue to be even with full vaccination.

[Del]

There's no way the Canadian dates are happening this year. As it's been mentioned we still have very strict measures and several provinces require isolation even if you're arriving from another province. I believe we will see these shows pushed out the closer we get to them.

 

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[dyusha]

There's no way the Canadian dates are happening this year. As it's been mentioned we still have very strict measures and several provinces require isolation even if you're arriving from another province. I believe we will see these shows pushed out the closer we get to them.

 

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If her RW contract is anything like Caesars Palace, she will not be allowed to perform outside of Vegas in the US.

Which means Canadian dates will likely get pushed to next year while the American dates will get canceled.

It wouldn't make sense to just do the American dates in August/September. Too much planning and not enough revenue.

[Celinelife]

I guess none of us know the answer on whether or not the Courage World Tour will pick back up in August (as indicated by Celine's official website)?

 

If it does pick back up, she will pretty much only have the month of October to rehearse for the new Vegas show. So I'm kind of hoping the tour gets postponed, which will allow much more free time to focus on putting something truly special together for Vegas.

 

I don't want Celine to get stressed / sick / overworked by doing such a challenging balancing act of two big shows.

She might start rehearsing early.

[CelineTheBest5]

If her RW contract is anything like Caesars Palace, she will not be allowed to perform outside of Vegas in the US.

Which means Canadian dates will likely get pushed to next year while the American dates will get canceled.

It wouldn't make sense to just do the American dates in August/September. Too much planning and not enough revenue.

 

I dont think she will ever sign a contract like this again.

[remykyes]

If her RW contract is anything like Caesars Palace, she will not be allowed to perform outside of Vegas in the US.

Which means Canadian dates will likely get pushed to next year while the American dates will get canceled.

It wouldn't make sense to just do the American dates in August/September. Too much planning and not enough revenue.

 

Plenty of artists have already announced new tour dates around that time period. If the Canadian dates can't happen and they can be rescheduled, fine. And from the look of the schedule, only TWO dates (British Colombia) would be in the middle of US dates. But if Celine's signed another contract forbidding her from touring the US while she's at RW, that's just dumb. These dates were postponed because of the pandemic. They should be allowed to go forward. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I've had these tickets to her Pittsburgh show since April of 2019. Celine needs to either perform the concerts or postpone. To cancel would be such a slap in the face to the fans who are holding onto their Courage tickets for dear life because they can't go to Vegas until sometime next year (Yes! I'm talking about me!).

[couldawouldashoulda]

They won’t cancel the CWT dates - just postpone them. If that even needs to happen at all. There’s probably no way the Canadian dates are happening in August due to Covid but the U.S. dates could still happen. Those are the last of her U.S. dates, yes? Then she’d be done with that leg of the tour before Vegas starts.

[PuraVida]

Plenty of artists have already announced new tour dates around that time period. If the Canadian dates can't happen and they can be rescheduled, fine. And from the look of the schedule, only TWO dates (British Colombia) would be in the middle of US dates. But if Celine's signed another contract forbidding her from touring the US while she's at RW, that's just dumb. These dates were postponed because of the pandemic. They should be allowed to go forward. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I've had these tickets to her Pittsburgh show since April of 2019. Celine needs to either perform the concerts or postpone. To cancel would be such a slap in the face to the fans who are holding onto their Courage tickets for dear life because they can't go to Vegas until sometime next year (Yes! I'm talking about me!).

 

The positive thing is that we know that, if nothing else, Celine herself is vehemently against and hurt by cancelling shows. I am sure she'll make her best effort, as much as it is in her power, to influence people to not cancel any shows.

[Xpresso]

I read an article in the Globe & Mail (Canada) saying that the vaccination gap between Canada and the US has been narrowing for weeks. And that later this week, Canada is going to pass the US (due to vaccination-hesitancy in the US). As of May 17, 45.7% of Canadians got one dose compared to 47.3% of Americans. By the end of this week, Canada will be ahead of the US and the lead will then widen.

But Trudeau, the Canadian Prime Minister, said that the Canada-US border won't reopen until 75% of people are vaccinated. So those Canadian shows might not happen even if vaccination rate is high.

Edited May 19, 2021 at 04:53 PM by Xpresso

[Nmj]

I read an article in the Globe & Mail (Canada) saying that the vaccination gap between Canada and the US has been narrowing for weeks. And that later this week, Canada is going to pass the US (due to vaccination-hesitancy in the US). As of May 17, 45.7% of Canadians got one dose compared to 47.3% of Americans. By the end of this week, Canada will be ahead of the US and the lead will then widen.

But Trudeau, the Canadian Prime Minister, said that the Canada-US border won't reopen until 75% of people are vaccinated. So those Canadian shows might not happen even if vaccination rate is high.

 

Keep in mind if shows resume they can resume, because the border closure only applies to non Canadian citizens which means Celine and her team can travel into Canada since they are citizens. So the border to the USA isn’t the issue, it’s if shows will be allowed to resume or not by then. Since they won’t cancel this tour I really hope the shows go on and can be completed ASAP so she can move on from this delay and focus on Vegas and future projects.

Edited May 19, 2021 at 04:59 PM by Nmj

[Xpresso]

Keep in mind if shows resume they can resume, because the border closure only applies to non Canadian citizens which means Celine and her team can travel into Canada since they are citizens. So the border to the USA isn't the issue, it's if shows will be allowed to resume or not by then. Since they won't cancel this tour I really hope the shows go on and can be completed ASAP so she can move on from this delay and focus on Vegas and future projects.

If Canada is strict about the 75% vaccination rate to reopen the border, I'm sure the rules will still be strict when it comes to indoor shows with 5 to 10,000 people. Also, if Canadians fly back into Canada, they have to quarantine (with a 2 or 3-day hotel stay and then finish the quarantine at home if Covid test is negative). Edited May 19, 2021 at 05:10 PM by Xpresso

[Nmj]

If Canada is strict about the 75% vaccination rate to reopen the border, I'm sure the rules will still be strict when it comes to indoor shows with 5 to 10,000 people. Also, if Canadians fly back into Canada, they have to quarantine (with a 2 or 3-day hotel stay and then finish the quarantine at home if Covid test is negative).

 

I’m sure Celine would stay in Canada regardless for an extended time. Time will tell.

[Xpresso]

I’m sure Celine would stay in Canada regardless for an extended time. Time will tell.

It's just that the schedule is a bit strange. She's got 4 shows in Canada (Aug. 16, 18, 20, 21), then 2 in the US (Aug. 24, 26) and then back to Canada for 2 shows in Vancouver (Aug. 28-29). So not enough time to quarantine before the Vancouver shows.

[Nmj]

It's just that the schedule is a bit strange. She's got 4 shows in Canada (Aug. 16, 18, 20, 21), then 2 in the US (Aug. 24, 26) and then back to Canada for 2 shows in Vancouver (Aug. 28-29). So not enough time to quarantine before the Vancouver shows.

 

I agree, it’s a long shot . She may opt to cancel or reschedule the two USA dates to be after she’s done in Canada.

[nuts2you]

Dont forget she got to in DC and Pitts still one the east C

[pat200]

It's just that the schedule is a bit strange. She's got 4 shows in Canada (Aug. 16, 18, 20, 21), then 2 in the US (Aug. 24, 26) and then back to Canada for 2 shows in Vancouver (Aug. 28-29). So not enough time to quarantine before the Vancouver shows.

 

i doubt she will do 2 shows in vancouver. she barely sold 40% of each show right before covid happened

[PuraVida]

i doubt she will do 2 shows in vancouver. she barely sold 40% of each show right before covid happened

 

Is this the first time on tour she had trouble selling tickets for a city?

[Kristinaz]

i doubt she will do 2 shows in vancouver. she barely sold 40% of each show right before covid happened

I checked that yesterday too and was shocked that there were SO many free tickets. I will say PHO is VERY weird there is no way she will let concerts go through if anything those will be the last things she will allow back as was made clear in the original re-opening back in May of last year. Back then she had concerts to resume in late fall(obvs that never happened) What I do find odd is I checked Ticketmaster and most shows scheduled for June onwards have yet to be postponed(not just Celine's) and I don't get why.

Edited May 19, 2021 at 07:39 PM by Kristinaz

[couldawouldashoulda]

I checked that yesterday too and was shocked that there were SO many free tickets. I will say PHO is VERY weird there is no way she will let concerts go through if anything those will be the last things she will allow back as was made clear in the original re-opening back in May of last year. Back then she had concerts to resume in late fall(obvs that never happened) What I do find odd is I checked Ticketmaster and most shows scheduled for June onwards have yet to be postponed(not just Celine's) and I don't get why.

 

I think it's because everyone is just taking things a couple of weeks at a time. There's still so much uncertainty around how quickly people can get vaccinated, what things will be like when restaurants, movie theaters, gyms, etc open at 100% capacity - which, incidentally happened to today in NYC. I think concert promoters are waiting to see just what sized gathering governments will allow. I think they don't want to postpone anything they don't have to so are waiting until the very last minute to make a decision.

[AdrienneM]

I think a lot of people have probably also sent back their tickets for a refund. I know ticketmaster were trying to be clever and avoid refunding people, but enough hounding and calling their customer service and you’ll get a refund eventually. Plus, I’m pretty sure consumers laws in Canada prevents companies like Ticketmaster from refusing or not allowing refunds through postponements

[Kristinaz]

I think it's because everyone is just taking things a couple of weeks at a time. There's still so much uncertainty around how quickly people can get vaccinated, what things will be like when restaurants, movie theaters, gyms, etc open at 100% capacity - which, incidentally happened to today in NYC. I think concert promoters are waiting to see just what sized gathering governments will allow. I think they don't want to postpone anything they don't have to so are waiting until the very last minute to make a decision.

Probably it is just a bit frustrating when you consider she postponed her July dates and alot of those places in Europe are already back to allowing tourism and in some places open space concerts.

 

I think a lot of people have probably also sent back their tickets for a refund. I know ticketmaster were trying to be clever and avoid refunding people, but enough hounding and calling their customer service and you'll get a refund eventually. Plus, I'm pretty sure consumers laws in Canada prevents companies like Ticketmaster from refusing or not allowing refunds through postponements

I remember checking even before the pandemic and the tickets were still steadily available. I talked to Ticketmaster and they said no refund unless she postpones again. Basically when she did postpone the first time we were sent an email (back in October) and they gave us 30 days to decide. I honestly thought we'd be done or if not she would have by now rescheduled. It's just more or less frustrating that we have to wait for her to postpone again because if I could I personally right now would have asked for a refund(assuming she goes ahead with it)

[pat200]

Is this the first time on tour she had trouble selling tickets for a city?

 

yeah i dont think i saw such abysmal numbers at any other venue before covid.

I managed to upgrade from row 23 which was $388 to row 6 for the same price, that's how bad they were selling even pre covid. Row 6 was around 1 grand when they opened the sales.

[PuraVida]

yeah i dont think i saw such abysmal numbers at any other venue before covid.

I managed to upgrade from row 23 which was $388 to row 6 for the same price, that's how bad they were selling even pre covid. Row 6 was around 1 grand when they opened the sales.

 

Maybe it's just the mistake of having two shows. Not sure her past history in Vancouver, but I don't think she's had trouble selling tickets for a one-show stop in a city ever.

[rfkavanagh]

I have tickets to the two Vancouver shows, but I'm really hoping they get postponed again. Every other artist imaginable seems to have rescheduled their shows right around the end of August into September so I'm not even sure I can manage to make it to Vancouver, schedule-wise. Plus I'm not a Canadian citizen so travel entry will have to open up for the US or Ireland for vaccinated people in order for me to even be able to travel. And who knows what quarantine requirements may still be in place by then, even for the vaccinated? Seems like too many obstacles for me to get there. But push the shows to mid-next year and I'd be happy...

 

(And yes, it's all about me.)

[Kristinaz]

I have tickets to the two Vancouver shows, but I'm really hoping they get postponed again. Every other artist imaginable seems to have rescheduled their shows right around the end of August into September so I'm not even sure I can manage to make it to Vancouver, schedule-wise. Plus I'm not a Canadian citizen so travel entry will have to open up for the US or Ireland for vaccinated people in order for me to even be able to travel. And who knows what quarantine requirements may still be in place by then, even for the vaccinated? Seems like too many obstacles for me to get there. But push the shows to mid-next year and I'd be happy...

 

(And yes, it's all about me.)

No it's not just you I feel the same way. I have tickets for night one of Vancouver and I have health problems and have all my life I am extremely high risk and just have no desire to go to a show so soon especially since I have no guarantee of being fully vaccinated at this point. There SHOULD be a refund option available REGARDLESS of whether she goes through or not this is going to be a massive issue for many people if she doesn't postpone.

[Kristinaz]

Watching the presser right now seems BC will know next week when easing can begin and when things can start coming back (ex what month concerts can come back etc) so I assume we may get an answer next week. Edited May 19, 2021 at 10:31 PM by Kristinaz

[scielle]

 

i doubt she will do 2 shows in vancouver. she barely sold 40% of each show right before covid happened

 

Oh wow, really? Surprised to hear that. Wonder why they added a second show then (or were 2 scheduled all along?)

[Kristinaz]

Oh wow, really? Surprised to hear that. Wonder why they added a second show then (or were 2 scheduled all along?)

They added it. I still have the original email from April 2019 the original date was just for April 17th 2020. They added the second one on September 26th and tickets went on sale September 30th

Edited May 19, 2021 at 10:38 PM by Kristinaz