Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELED

[PuraVida]

Also I must add during the pandemic nearly every single day the members would come onto their IG and post a little something whether it was just a message of hope some pictures a live stream of them jamming together via zoom they never let us feel like we were alone they stayed connected to their fans that is key to any artist who wants to keep their sales up and keep interest. When they live streamed 2 shows during the pandemic every paper covered it. Why? Because their management know how important it is for people to know what the band is up to rather then you know post mindless pics that mean nothing. Connect with the fans that is key give them what they want and they will never leave you.

 

According to some (citrus) members of this forum, this means Queen spoiled their fans. And we have to go to therapy for merely suggesting Celine or her team could do something like this

[Kristinaz]

According to some (citrus) members of this forum, this means Queen spoiled their fans. And we have to go to therapy for merely suggesting Celine or her team could do something like this

 

For real right? I know I come off sounding mean but I don't follow Celine to see random pictures of her in the woods or hugging trees or whatever. I follow her because her music brings me joy her personality brought me joy. I loved how she was the way she's held herself for so long and defied so much that has been thrown in her way. And all we ask is maybe spare 5 mins of her time to come online or you know what doesn't even have to be live but just post something a video checking in with fans. Maybe try and do a Q&A alot of artists have done that. We don't ask for her to move mountains or anything but have basic awareness of your fanbase acknowledge them. Don't people remember how Rene always used to say "the fans are always right listen to your fans they are the ones who made you they can break you too" Even if Aldo wasn't the best atleast he knew that you had to keep your core fanbases attention and especially now during a pandemic where millions are suffering.

[couldawouldashoulda]

 

 

That's fine, I realize that civil discussion isn't everyone's cup of tea.

 

It’s not about not being able to have a civil discussion. It’s about having ZERO interest in the project. Hard as that may be for some fans to understand.

[PuraVida]

Even though they couldn't seem further apart, the Céline/ Queen comparison has a lot of similarities. Like you said, they have been around long enough that they have old fans who want nothing to change--the purists. Céline fandom has those, too. Then you have those fans who want to seem them grow and evolve as an artist, and they get upset and say those purists are stuck in the past. Céline has those fans, too. Maybe they are the minority, but if an Adam Lambert-fronted version of Queen can hit #1 on the charts with a live compilation, then so too can a Céline compilation. But I don't think it has to be her greatest hits in the traditional sense. The Vegas years contain a plethora of songs that even non-fans will recognize (yes, the covers) as well as some fan-beloved songs that both purists and their counterparts can enjoy. The point is that Queen fans are spoiled rotten because they have been getting showered with little gifts all year long, while we are happy she uploaded a single video for Christmas. If they are going to cancel this tour, then they better have a plan in action to appease the fans, because you cannot argue that the pandemic alone has shut down someone's ability to connect with the fans who are providing them their livelihood.

 

 

True, true. I am fan of many other artists besides Celine, as I'm sure others are. Including other veteran acts, who all are doing great things to connect with fans.

 

I would LOVE to see Celine appear in one of their concerts for a live duet. I remember Bryan May complimented her Show Must Go On performance in 2016.

[Ajax]

 

 

There's no argument though. I am simply saying that people are demanding performances, tours, and releases from Queen's live performances (which yes, is not the same as with Freddie but has not gone away nor have their fans. Freddie wasn't the only member in that band.) They are not a dead band. Whitney is dead. But Queen continues.

 

Recently, the energy you put into spreading your view everywhere is exhausting. Not realizing that Queen is dead and telling that « Freddy wasn’t the only one » is one of your last crap. Acting like Freddy was just one of them and what we see is still Queen touring is insane.

[PuraVida]

Recently, the energy you put into spreading your view everywhere is exhausting. Not realizing that Queen is dead and telling that « Freddy wasn't the only one » is one of your last crap. Acting like Freddy was just one of them and what we see is still Queen touring is insane.

 

Vous pouvez personnaliser les choses à votre guise. Je ne suis pas intéressé à faire quelque chose de personnel.

 

La question était de savoir si Queen était morte dans leur carrière, la réponse est clairement non. Désolé si cela vous dérange. Cela a été soulevé pour discuter du sujet pertinent (que je n'ai pas initié) sur les artistes vétérans sortant des DVD et des produits similaires. Je vous dirigerais vers le post ma Kristinaz qui est la plus grande fan de Queen ici, semble-t-il. Vous pouvez déjà voir 4-5 personnes sur la dernière page, à l'exclusion de moi, qui ont fait écho à ce sentiment à travers leurs likes / posts.

 

 

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You can personalize things all you want. I am not interested in making things personal.

 

The question was whether Queen's career is dead and the answer is clearly no. Sorry if that bothers you. This was brought up in a larger discussion context (which I didn't initiate) about veteran artists releasing DVDs and the like. I'd direct you to the post by Kristinaz who seems to be the most knowledgeable Queen fan here. Or you could simply check out their Wikipedia. You can already see 4-5 people on the last page, excluding me, who echoed this sentiment about Queen through their likes / posts.

Edited January 31, 2021 at 11:59 AM by PuraVida

[browseceline]

 

Vous pouvez personnaliser les choses à votre guise. Je ne suis pas intéressé à faire quelque chose de personnel.

 

La question était de savoir si Queen était morte dans leur carrière, la réponse est clairement non. Désolé si cela vous dérange. Cela a été soulevé pour discuter du sujet pertinent (que je n'ai pas initié) sur les artistes vétérans sortant des DVD et des produits similaires. Je vous dirigerais vers le post ma Kristinaz qui est la plus grande fan de Queen ici, semble-t-il. Vous pouvez déjà voir 4-5 personnes sur la dernière page, à l'exclusion de moi, qui ont fait écho à ce sentiment à travers leurs likes / posts.

 

In english please...

 

 

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[Bruno Portugal]

IMO there is no need to compare Celine with other artists. She is one of the most successful singers ever and has released DVDs that have been tremendous sales successes, A New Day... or the TC World Tour are just examples. So, if there are countless filmed shows, in Las Vegas, Hyde Park, and many many others worldwide, why not officially release them? Or at least a documentary.

 

Celine and her team should understand that everything that is released only contributes to reinforcing the status of icon, legend or The Voice. The important thing is that these releases happen and have quality.

 

And yes, it is time to release a new DVD, blu-ray, etc. This is just my opinion

[Xpresso]

You can already see 4-5 people on the last page, excluding me, who echoed this sentiment about Queen through their likes / posts.

Why do you need to back up your arguments with the fact that "4 -5 people on the last page agree or like..." or "Many other members on this forum

also think..." (paraphrasing here but you get the idea).

Personally I think Freddy WAS Queen even if nobody agrees with me. Without Freddy, this is not Queen anymore. Cheers!

Edited January 31, 2021 at 01:37 PM by Xpresso

[Celine Fan 77]

Only wishful thinking... But it would be amazing if they completely revamped the show for future concerts.

 

 

[Shamrock_1982]

A few songs I would remove from that list. Lol

 

Say yes would be boring live, and call the man and thankful are too similar.

 

And I’d love to see the prayer rested and bring back immortality.

 

And not sure about the perfect goodbye plus she can’t do a show without the power of love or all by myself lol.

[Ajax]

Why do you need to back up your arguments with the fact that "4 -5 people on the last page agree or like..." or "Many other members on this forum

also think..." (paraphrasing here but you get the idea).

Personally I think Freddy WAS Queen even if nobody agrees with me. Without Freddy, this is not Queen anymore. Cheers!

 

The whole world think that as well as every musician or specialist.

Queen still alive ? That is not serious.

[Dancing_Queen]

There's only one dvd concert that I watch on a regular basis and that's the one she did in 2007 'Sur les Plaines', because the setlist was so different and exciting.

 

I'm not waiting for yet another fimed version of BYLM, MHWGO...

 

As I've said before, I do wish they'd give us the 'one-offs'. They could release a video of 'Love of my Life' for the 30th anniversary of Freddie's death as a tribute.

And they could release a video of Le Ballet for Pepe's birthday (I dunno, any occasion would do 😂)

 

As far as releases go, they should 100% focus on getting a new documentary out. Unlike releasing a dvd (which will only appeal to existing fans), a documentary has the potential of creating new fans. I take myself as an example: I've always liked Céline as a singer, but it's her personalty that ultimately made me fall in love with her when I stumbled upon the Oprah documentary online. I've surprised many of my friends and relatives with how cool she is and many now casually like her.

So I think there's definitely still a big untapped market out there for her. But a documentary is the way to go.

[nuts2you]

Now that we are in Feb (by 1 day) should we play a game on when she will announce that this tour will not go on until (maybe 2022)

which day or week will her team make that announcement ?

[couldawouldashoulda]

Now that we are in Feb (by 1 day) should we play a game on when she will announce that this tour will not go on until (maybe 2022)

which day or week will her team make that announcement ?

 

Well, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I expect the announcement to come 30 days before the tour is scheduled to resume.

[Shamrock_1982]

I think we will hear in the next two weeks regarding the UK dates

[Kristinaz]

Oh for bloody hell enough with the Queen topic! For those of you who think Queen is dead very nice and well but millions of others don't feel that at all. The whole reason Chantemoi even brought the topic up is we both have had countless of DM's from naysayers telling us how this campaign won't work and no one wants physical dvds. This was just to show those naysayers that look it does and can still work. Now enough of the dang Queen argument if all you are going to do is argue about Queen and whether Queen is not Queen without Freddie and blah blah then kindly get out of this thread and go start a Queen thread where you can argue about it all day and all night for all I care.

 

I'm sorry for losing my cool but for two days I have been reading the same thing and quite frankly I'm getting tired and annoyed by it. I am also annoyed that no one is paying attention to the whole point of that post.

 

For those of you who have been helpful and have been providing us with ideas thank you we appreciate it.

Edited January 31, 2021 at 08:53 PM by Kristinaz

[browseceline]

Oh for bloody hell enough with the Queen topic! For those of you who think Queen is dead very nice and well but millions of others don't feel that at all. The whole reason Chantemoi even brought the topic up is we both have had countless of DM's from naysayers telling us how this campaign won't work and no one wants physical dvds. This was just to show those naysayers that look it does and can still work. Now enough of the dang Queen argument if all you are going to do is argue about Queen and whether Queen is not Queen without Freddie and blah blah then kindly get out of this thread and go start a Queen thread where you can argue about it all day and all night for all I care.

 

I'm sorry for losing my cool but for two days I have been reading the same thing and quite frankly I'm getting tired and annoyed by it. I am also annoyed that no one is paying attention to the whole point of that post.

 

For those of you who have been helpful and have been providing us with ideas thank you we appreciate it.

 

Ariana Grande has her last tour on Netflix. Wish Celine surprised us with something like that!

 

 

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[Kristinaz]

Ariana Grande has her last tour on Netflix. Wish Celine surprised us with something like that!

 

 

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Yep it's something I brought up with Chantemoi too when we were discussing some examples of recent releases. I always found it interesting because Netflix at one point used to post alot about Celine so I always thought she may have had a deal with them that never fully went through. Wish she could sign with them to release some old and new shows.

 

There's only one dvd concert that I watch on a regular basis and that's the one she did in 2007 'Sur les Plaines', because the setlist was so different and exciting.

 

I'm not waiting for yet another fimed version of BYLM, MHWGO...

 

As I've said before, I do wish they'd give us the 'one-offs'. They could release a video of 'Love of my Life' for the 30th anniversary of Freddie's death as a tribute.

And they could release a video of Le Ballet for Pepe's birthday (I dunno, any occasion would do )

 

As far as releases go, they should 100% focus on getting a new documentary out. Unlike releasing a dvd (which will only appeal to existing fans), a documentary has the potential of creating new fans. I take myself as an example: I've always liked Céline as a singer, but it's her personalty that ultimately made me fall in love with her when I stumbled upon the Oprah documentary online. I've surprised many of my friends and relatives with how cool she is and many now casually like her.

So I think there's definitely still a big untapped market out there for her. But a documentary is the way to go.

 

Your point is really good and we have seen over the years that she does sometimes film even when she is off stage. I'd like a cross between Access Ilimite and TTEOW

Edited January 31, 2021 at 08:59 PM by Kristinaz

[PuraVida]

 

 

The whole world think that as well as every musician or specialist.

Queen still alive ? That is not serious.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK-Owk0rZqg

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUuuWyCkS_U

 

[PuraVida]

Why do you need to back up your arguments with the fact that "4 -5 people on the last page agree or like..." or "Many other members on this forum

also think..." (paraphrasing here but you get the idea).

Personally I think Freddy WAS Queen even if nobody agrees with me. Without Freddy, this is not Queen anymore. Cheers!

 

People have a right to their opinion. The argument stands on its own, Queen...a veteran act...has very successful and hungry demand for its live releases, in streaming and physical format that go to #1, even without Freddie.

 

I am simply pointing out you are outnumbered in your opinion. And despite many people holding the opposite view than you, you continually choose/want to personalize this about one person: me.

Edited January 31, 2021 at 10:13 PM by PuraVida

[jpatdeleon09]

There's only one dvd concert that I watch on a regular basis and that's the one she did in 2007 'Sur les Plaines', because the setlist was so different and exciting.

 

I'm not waiting for yet another fimed version of BYLM, MHWGO...

 

As I've said before, I do wish they'd give us the 'one-offs'. They could release a video of 'Love of my Life' for the 30th anniversary of Freddie's death as a tribute.

And they could release a video of Le Ballet for Pepe's birthday (I dunno, any occasion would do 😂)

 

As far as releases go, they should 100% focus on getting a new documentary out. Unlike releasing a dvd (which will only appeal to existing fans), a documentary has the potential of creating new fans. I take myself as an example: I've always liked Céline as a singer, but it's her personalty that ultimately made me fall in love with her when I stumbled upon the Oprah documentary online. I've surprised many of my friends and relatives with how cool she is and many now casually like her.

So I think there's definitely still a big untapped market out there for her. But a documentary is the way to go.

 

It is 2008 not 2007. Just sayin

[Kyle_Jared]

Only wishful thinking... But it would be amazing if they completely revamped the show for future concerts.

 

 

 

Way too many unknown songs here for most fans going.

[Ajax]

Oh for bloody hell enough with the Queen topic! For those of you who think Queen is dead very nice and well but millions of others don't feel that at all. The whole reason Chantemoi even brought the topic up is we both have had countless of DM's from naysayers telling us how this campaign won't work and no one wants physical dvds. This was just to show those naysayers that look it does and can still work. Now enough of the dang Queen argument if all you are going to do is argue about Queen and whether Queen is not Queen without Freddie and blah blah then kindly get out of this thread and go start a Queen thread where you can argue about it all day and all night for all I care.

 

I'm sorry for losing my cool but for two days I have been reading the same thing and quite frankly I'm getting tired and annoyed by it. I am also annoyed that no one is paying attention to the whole point of that post.

 

For those of you who have been helpful and have been providing us with ideas thank you we appreciate it.

 

Hum OK I will stop here.

If a bunch of people think this is still Queen, because that makes them feel better or less nostalgic or I don't know what could be the reason, good for them. What PuraVida show me is not Queen and this is shared in the collective unconscious. Assimilating what they tried to do with Adam Lambert to the band during Freddie Mercury is almost Criminal. And if younger people may got introduced to Queen with this new era/Adam lambert thing, well good for them. But I don't think anyone would dare comparing this to what was Queen or even dare to say that Queen is still alive because of this whatever this new Group called Queen may do to revive the noastalia.

[DionFanAlways]

Oh for bloody hell enough with the Queen topic!

Thank you!

[Xpresso]

And who's the real Queen folks? Well without a doubt it's Céline!

[No1IrishFan]

I spoke to a rep at Aiken promotions earlier and they’ve heard nothing from Cs team. He said he expects it in a few weeks.

 

I think he was telling me the truth; he told me in advance that they were rescheduling the first time and that it would be April 20.

 

Let’s see what happens 🤔

Edited February 1, 2021 at 06:54 PM by No1IrishFan

[Kristinaz]

Hum OK I will stop here.

If a bunch of people think this is still Queen, because that makes them feel better or less nostalgic or I don't know what could be the reason, good for them. What PuraVida show me is not Queen and this is shared in the collective unconscious. Assimilating what they tried to do with Adam Lambert to the band during Freddie Mercury is almost Criminal. And if younger people may got introduced to Queen with this new era/Adam lambert thing, well good for them. But I don't think anyone would dare comparing this to what was Queen or even dare to say that Queen is still alive because of this whatever this new Group called Queen may do to revive the noastalia.

 

Oh sweet jesus. Look I am going to end this now but I will say one thing and one thing only Queen was never just Freddie all the members were important. Brian John and Roger all helped too. Radio Gaga was written by Roger, John did Another One Bites the Dust, Brian wrote Who Wants to Live Forever they were all key to the group. Freddie is dead he is gone he cannot come back. Clearly you don't like Queen without Freddie and that is fine no one is forcing you to nor is the band themselves but like it or not they're still very popular and are still attracting new fans. I never had the luxury to see them when Freddie was around sadly but I love the original band and the new version. I did not however like the Paul Rodgers version. As I said that was not the point of the post. The point was simply to show that look dvds DO still sell. That is all now enough of this and let's get back to what this board is about which is Celine.

 

I spoke to a rep at Aiken promotions earlier and they've heard nothing from Cs team. He said he expects it in a few weeks.

 

I think he was telling me the truth; he told me in advance that they were rescheduling the first time and that it would be April 20.

 

Let's see what happens ��

 

Thanks for the update. Our arena began announcing today new dates for shows that were due to happen in April. Celine for me would have been August so let's see.

Edited February 1, 2021 at 08:17 PM by Kristinaz

[PuraVida]

A few songs I would remove from that list. Lol

 

Say yes would be boring live, and call the man and thankful are too similar.

 

And I’d love to see the prayer rested and bring back immortality.

 

And not sure about the perfect goodbye plus she can’t do a show without the power of love or all by myself lol.

 

Nice. I pretty much agree. I'm also not sure about Perfect Goodbye... I feel like a lot of the Courage tracks might work better in a smaller venue to be honest, a more intimate show.

[Chantemoi]

A few songs I would remove from that list. Lol

 

Say yes would be boring live, and call the man and thankful are too similar.

 

And I’d love to see the prayer rested and bring back immortality.

 

And not sure about the perfect goodbye plus she can’t do a show without the power of love or all by myself lol.

 

If i never heard TPOL for the rest of my life, I would not miss it. I think more casual fans know her for ABM and IACBTMN than The Power of Love. It’s not her signature song, and it was hardly ever a song she could sing live without lipping the final note. Maybe I’m just suffering from PTSD from hearing the same track for 50+ years, or I’m not interested in the song because it’s so hetero-specific.... anyway, I’d take anything —even Say Yes— over that because she would undoubtedly sing it with more emotion.