LukeD Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:02 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:02 AM (edited) While you do it, you should also report yourself for being xenophobic, in a pathetic comment towards the brazilian's fans.How is my post xenophobic? Please, explain. And how is it aimed against fans? I hope you realize I am GREEK and Celine has never visited Greece. Just saying. At this point, I'm just doing, as we call here in Brazil, a "macumba" for you. Have a good weekend! Or try it!Both you and the people who liked your pathetic comment should rather read a book on addressing your internalized homophobia. Have a good life! Or try it!As a fan whose country isn't either in her list for the billionth time, I do empathise with you. Don't worry about the nasty comments, those ****** same bunch of ******** have no empathy at all. Not even in the middle of a forced excitement while watching a livestream of a Celine show. Take it easy around here! That is rich coming from someone who has been banned, warned in the past, had 10 people calling him out on his ***** few days ago. And now you do what? You are jumping the wagon, finding the most pathetic opportunity to attack me and a bunch of others when a member has resorted to a clearly homophobic and misogynistic statement. In a forum that predominantly consists of LGTBT members and straight (I assume) women. Even you could do better than that. Edited October 19, 2019 at 10:03 AM by LukeD Quote
daccord_12 Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:04 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:04 AM Well said Mirage!!I know you are a huge fan. But we can be honest about how we feel.And this tour is very very disappointing when it comes to the setlist. Both French and English, doesn’t matter. In my opinion, worst ever. I love Céline, but I just think this isn’t good. I should just post when everyone is getting down from cloud 9 because she sang 1 rare old song and because she kept TLBSEPT in her English show.But I won't. I'm going to get a s*** load over me because - I'm negative- she works hard- she doesn't need to tour- she can never satisfy- it's for the regular fans- etc But you simply cannot deny that this setlist is just lazy. When you have like 20 albums, going through her repetoire till 3 in the morning, rehearse for months.And simply just come up with an updated Vegas show you simply show no creativity whatsoever. Even the mini tours from 2016 and 2017 showed more creative decisions than this setlist, and even those tours had the biggest hits. She is releasing 20!! new songs in 4 weeks, if they have the audacity to just add 2-3 new songs from that album they can better rename this tour from 'Courage' into 'Failure - a decade of the same songs' What do I expect then? Well let me explain. Her 5-6 biggest hits.And for the rest, be as creative as you were in 2016/2017 and not give us the same recipe because it worked 2 years ago. I LOVE that she sings IYAMT, I LOVE that she keeps an 'rare' French song in this show. Just liked I LOVED Imagine in London, she thought it worked and now she will sing it for the next 3 years. Be bold, do a different Encore each night. It's not that difficult. She is a singing library she can pull of anything right at that moment. Use that. And now you can all block me, hate me, find me negative. But at least I'm very realistic. 3 Quote
Popular Post ryba Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:05 AM Popular Post Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:05 AM (edited) There are two type of audiece go to her concert, die hard fans and general audience. I think she and her team faces difficulties to balance the needs of general audience and her die hard fans. Her die hard fans demand songs she rarely (never) perform on stage before. She has many hits over the years widely known by general audience. If she perform, let’s say, most of the setlist with those hits, die hard fans will complain, where’s those songs of her catalogue she rarely perform? But if they take another route and fill the setlist with those rare songs, general audience will be disappointed that she don’t perform songs they know. Most of audience is general audience I think. I -a die hard fans- know Us, Somebody Love Somebody, Miles to Go, etc. But my friends, a general audience, don’t know those songs at all. When they went to Celine’s concert, they expect a setlist full of her biggest hits. On the other hand, they also need to fill the setlist with new songs from Courage. In the end of the day, for the concert, there are three type of songs. Her biggest hits widely known by the general audience, songs she rarely perform, and new songs from the album Courage. I think it’s not easy for them to manage those three types of songs into setlist. But I agree that she and her team should remove covers from the setlist completely since she has enough material from her own catalogue.not even the general audience would ever say “I’m going to see Celine tonight. I really hope she sings my all time favourite Lady Marmolade or Another one bites the dust”. I mean, come on. Everybody, even no hardcore fans, would love to experience her performing ANDHC radio remix with awesome visuals instead of this bunch of random, shitty covers. There is no excuse for that. Edited October 19, 2019 at 10:07 AM by ryba 11 Quote
Javito Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:10 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:10 AM (edited) There's a thin line between complaining and being critic, and also being acquiescent all the time and trying to find excuses to what is inexcusable. That's very different guys. yeah let's be thrilled and hopeful like always ohhh it's Vegas she can't bring anything new > let's hope she brings sth new in Asia > oh it's still the tour in between Vegas so she didn't have time to rehearse sth really new let's hope she will be creative for the final year > oh she brought something new to Vegas, Live 2018, okay let's be hopeful Vegas will end and she will be reborn in London > Hello London, well she didn't have time to rehearse after Vegas and she wants to keep everything secret until the tour comes, we can wait, the best is yet to come > Bonsoir Quebec! she didn't have much time after Vegas she needed to rest and after all it's an English tour to promote the new English album, so probably they were less creative with French setlist this time and will suprise us with the English setlist > Cleveland okay she was sick she can't do more, but it's not being sick it's what they planned all along, surely new album will come out in Nov and they will change and unveil new setlist let's be hopeful and happy for what crap we've got > late Nov 2 or 3 more Courage songs added! SPECTACULAR but she didn't tour America in 2016,2017,2018 so she can keep the whole setlist.... Europe will be different daaaaaa Hahahaha. That's exactly how the story it's been. Very accurate account of how things have been going since the breaks from all the different Vegas shows and residencies may I say. I still remember when she had a break from Vegas in 2005, 2006, 2012, 2014... and everyone was already hoping for new songs to be added everytime she resumed shows back then. And of course nothing happened. And everyone said "well let's wait until she tours, then everything will change". And we all waited for tours... And you see it's a circle it repeats all the time. Fans expecting things to happen, new things to be added. Nothing new really happens. Some fans complain. Some other fans try to find excuses to the laziness. Fans start to expect new things to happen again, but again nothing changes much. And he circle repeats again, on an on, an on. Edited October 19, 2019 at 10:15 AM by Javito 4 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
jpatdeleon09 Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:12 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:12 AM She should stick singing with her own songs. That’s the only thing i can say. 5 Quote
LukeD Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:12 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:12 AM (edited) Ι think the set-list was good in terms of her embracing her old catalog and original songs. Both the song selection and the sequence worked for me. The problem is that the random covers should be removed and replaced by new songs from Courage. She has got to support her new music. Overall, this show was mixed as far as the set-list concerned. Hopefully, it will improve once Courage is released. Personally, I will focus on what is positive: 1) Her voice is in better condition. 2) The set-list is an improvement compared to what she sang in Canada. Edited October 19, 2019 at 10:13 AM by LukeD 3 Quote
LukeD Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:19 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:19 AM (edited) Has anyone else thought that Courage seemingly consists of original songs because Celine and her team understood that one of the reasons LMBTL under-performed was due to including random covers? And maybe they wanted to make things right now? Cause I remember very well that back in 2013 EVERYONE here would complain about the inclusion of old covers in a supposedly modern album. I also noticed she got rid of her bedroom voice that nobody seemed to like back then. So I guess it is safe to say that once a reception of a product she puts out is not she expected to be, she is then up for changes? What do you think? Cause if this is the case, then we can explain why she has not changed the content of her concerts. Because these sell no matter what. I am starting to think that it would take a very average reception of a tour for her to be shaken and realize that the biggest portion of her true fans want her to sing original songs. Maybe she is playing it safe cause success is a given, and to me she is a success-driven performer. I am not justifying anything, I am simply trying to understand her decision-making process. Edited October 19, 2019 at 10:20 AM by LukeD 5 Quote
ryba Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:24 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:24 AM (edited) Has anyone else thought that Courage seemingly consists of original songs because Celine and her team understood that one of the reasons LMBTL under-performed was due to including random covers? And maybe they wanted to make things right now? Cause I remember very well that back in 2013 EVERYONE here would complain about the inclusion of old covers in a supposedly modern album. I also noticed she got rid of her bedroom voice that nobody seemed to like back then. So I guess it is safe to say that once a reception of a product she puts out is not she expected to be, she is then up for changes? What do you think? Cause if this is the case, then we can explain why she has not changed the content of her concerts. Because these sell no matter what. I am starting to think that it would take a very average reception of a tour for her to be shaken and realize that the biggest portion of her true fans want her to sing original songs. Maybe she is playing it safe cause success is a given, and to me she is a success-driven performer. I am not justifying anything, I am simply trying to understand her decision-making process.yes, I think that fans should comment on her social media that they heavily request her original songs. They have to know that somehow. Edited October 19, 2019 at 10:24 AM by ryba 2 Quote
sarit_celine Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:38 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:38 AM For Celine the formula is: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". For this Tour, at first I thought maybe she didn't go for songsshe didn't perform in a long time/never performed before live, given the condition of her voice, being illin the beginning of the Tour, and just not feel that confident with her instrument yet, so she played it safe as possibleand it's understable. But gladly hearing her having a wonderful voice now...I just go back to the conclusion "If it ain't broke" she will rather stay much as possiblein her comfort zone at least until the new album is out. Quote "Needed in the chaos and confusion, from the plains to City HallNeeded where the proud who walk the wire are set to fall"
isurrender Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:43 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:43 AM I think I'm tired of my own critisism toward the setlist. Haha So I won't repeat myself ( even though it will take a lot of courage to bear it 120x...). On a (lonely) positive way, am I the only one to rediscover TP? ( or to discover it coz I've never been a big fan of that song).The live solo version of it in 2019 ( in its duet/italian structure)is so much more interesting than the studio duet version of 98. 1 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:48 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:48 AM Thinking about it, I think Celine suffers from FOMOphobia!! Hilarious! 2 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
Javito Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:55 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:55 AM Italian fans must be happy to see her singing in Italian all alone now, that’s for sure! 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
RosieBarron Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:56 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:56 AM It's not her first tour without René right? She's done a tour in 2016, another one in 2017 and again in 2018, covering pretty much many places without him. I do get she still gets emotionally thinking she has not René by her side, but Jesus, she's not the lonely widow woman grieving at home with barely nobody around her to give her a shoulder to lean on. Let's be a bit less sentimental here and more realistic. She has a team of dozens of people working for her, personal assistants and even members of her family travelling with her since she was a teenager. The only thing she has to do is select the songs she wants to sing and ask her music director and band members to arrange the song to be played live. And then rehearse the song. It's not like she has the toughest job in the world okay I'm all for empathy and feeling sorry when she struggles and loses her voice, but I'm not the kind of acquiescent fan excusing her for something she could do MUCH better without any stress and work on her side. I mean I thought I was being realistic. She is a 51 year old widow who has been struggling. Sadly she cannot meet all of your very high expectations. What she can do is put 100 percent of what she has left into what she is doing. And that is what she is doing. 6 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:59 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 10:59 AM Has anyone else thought that Courage seemingly consists of original songs because Celine and her team understood that one of the reasons LMBTL under-performed was due to including random covers? And maybe they wanted to make things right now? Cause I remember very well that back in 2013 EVERYONE here would complain about the inclusion of old covers in a supposedly modern album. I also noticed she got rid of her bedroom voice that nobody seemed to like back then. So I guess it is safe to say that once a reception of a product she puts out is not she expected to be, she is then up for changes? What do you think? Cause if this is the case, then we can explain why she has not changed the content of her concerts. Because these sell no matter what. I am starting to think that it would take a very average reception of a tour for her to be shaken and realize that the biggest portion of her true fans want her to sing original songs. Maybe she is playing it safe cause success is a given, and to me she is a success-driven performer. I am not justifying anything, I am simply trying to understand her decision-making process.This is what I think also. She throws us a bone, the hard core fan base goes nuts, she doesn't get the reaction she's looking for and BAM! it's gone, like a thief in the night.... This is why I would love an anti-tour so much. Maybe one day it'll come. Oh and small venues also. 3 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
Popular Post CelineDionFreak Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:02 AM Popular Post Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:02 AM I have to say, she looked so so genuinely happy to be on stage last night! I for one am so happy! Yes, the setlist could’ve had a new song and FOMO, but what matters to me is that she’s giving her all, showing us she’s still got it and that we should love her and trust her judgement. I know she’s stressed going into an insanely long tour, but as a fan, I couldn’t be more proud of her. She is outsinging so many other artists, so I can not want to see what is coming next! 9 Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
wjd Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:13 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:13 AM Tickets available for North American dates - some hefty numbers in there! North America 20th Oct - Schottenstein Center - Columbus, OH - 1,081 22nd Oct - KFC Yum! Center - Louisville, KY - 1,080 24th Oct - U.S. Bank Arena - Cincinnati, OH - 1,055 26th Oct - Enterprise Center - St. Louis, MO - 1,060 28th Oct - Sprint Center - Kansas City, MO - 801 30th Oct - FargoDome - Fargo, ND - 1,168 01st Nov - Target Center - Minneapolis, MN - 466 03rd Nov - Fiserv Forum - Milwaukee, WI - 742 05th Nov - Little Caesars Arena - Detroit, MI - 453 18th Nov - Bell Centre - Montreal, QC - 31 19th Nov - Bell Centre - Montreal, QC - 93 21st Nov - Bell Centre - Montreal, QC - 37 22nd Nov - Bell Centre - Montreal, QC - 9 01st Dec - United Center - Chicago, IL - 601 03rd Dec - Bankers Life Fieldhouse - Indianapolis, IN - 1,695 05th Dec - KeyBank Center - Buffalo, NY - ??? 07th Dec - Times Union Center - Albany, NY - 207 09th Dec - Scotiabank Arena - Toronto, ON - 627 10th Dec - Scotiabank Arena - Toronto, ON - 316 13th Dec - TD Garden - Boston, MA - 929 14th Dec - TD Garden - Boston, MA - 557 08th Jan - VyStar Veterans Memorial Arena - Jacksonville, FL - 604 11th Jan - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, GA - 772 13th Jan - Bridgestone Arena - Nashville, TN - 1,659 15th Jan - Amalie Arena - Tampa, FL - 1,038 17th Jan - American Airlines Arena - Miami, FL - 1,030 18th Jan - American Airlines Arena - Miami, FL - 882 21st Jan - Spectrum Center - Charlotte, NC - 1,216 30th Jan - AT&T Center - San Antonio, TX - 1,033 01st Feb - Toyota Center - Houston, TX - 554 03rd Feb - American Airlines Center - Dallas, TX - 1,430 05th Feb - BOK Center - Tulsa, OK - 1,796 07th Feb - Smoothie King Center - New Orleans, LA - 763 09th Feb - FedExForum - Memphis, TN - 1,737 11th Feb - PNC Arena - Raleigh, NC - 1,409 18th Feb - Bell Centre - Montreal, QC - 0 19th Feb - Bell Centre - Montreal, QC - 0 22nd Feb - Jim Whelan Boardwalk Hall - Atlantic City, NJ - 1,026 24th Feb - Royal Farms Arena - Baltimore, MD - 1,919 26th Feb - Wells Fargo Center - Philadelphia, PA - 2,013 28th Feb - Barclays Center - Brooklyn, NY - 986 29th Feb - Barclays Center - Brooklyn, NY - 1,137 03rd Mar - NYCB Live, Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY - 49405th Mar - Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY - 7,144 07th Mar - Prudential Center - Newark, NJ - 1,464 08th Mar - Prudential Center - Newark, NJ - 3,320 11th Mar - Capital One Arena - Washington, D.C. - 1,395 13th Mar - PPG Paints Arena - Pittsburgh, PA - 1,284 24th Mar - Pepsi Center - Denver, CO - 2,728 26th Mar - Vivint Smart Home Arena - Salt Lake City, UT - 27529th Mar - Gila River Arena - Glendale, AZ - 3,23131st Mar - Pechanga Arena - San Diego, CA - 779 02nd Apr - STAPLES Center - Los Angeles, CA - 2,58603rd Apr - STAPLES Center - Los Angeles, CA - 1,835 07th Apr - Golden 1 Center - Sacramento, CA - 1,629 09th Apr - Oracle Arena - Oakland, CA - 4,76710th Apr - Chase Center - San Francisco, CA - 1,627 13th Apr - Moda Center - Portland, OR - 4,132 15th Apr - Tacoma Dome - Tacoma, WA - 7,716 17th Apr - Rogers Arena - Vancouver, BC - 2,39918th Apr - Rogers Arena - Vancouver, BC - 2,149 21st Apr - Rogers Place - Edmonton, AB - 1,14022nd Apr [/b - Rogers Place - Edmonton, AB - 2,551 25th Apr - SaskTel Centre - Saskatoon, SK - 919 27th Apr - Bell MTS Place - Winnipeg, MB - 1,206 There's 92,782 tickets in North America still to sell, mostly the higher priced tickets - and a significant number of which are across a half-dozen dates. Unsurprisingly, Canada is doing awesome. 4 Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
AdrienneM Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:17 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:17 AM Tickets available for North American dates - some hefty numbers in there! North America 20th Oct - Schottenstein Center - Columbus, OH - 1,081 22nd Oct - KFC Yum! Center - Louisville, KY - 1,080 24th Oct - U.S. Bank Arena - Cincinnati, OH - 1,055 26th Oct - Enterprise Center - St. Louis, MO - 1,060 28th Oct - Sprint Center - Kansas City, MO - 801 30th Oct - FargoDome - Fargo, ND - 1,168 01st Nov - Target Center - Minneapolis, MN - 466 03rd Nov - Fiserv Forum - Milwaukee, WI - 742 05th Nov - Little Caesars Arena - Detroit, MI - 453 18th Nov - Bell Centre - Montreal, QC - 31 19th Nov - Bell Centre - Montreal, QC - 93 21st Nov - Bell Centre - Montreal, QC - 37 22nd Nov - Bell Centre - Montreal, QC - 9 01st Dec - United Center - Chicago, IL - 601 03rd Dec - Bankers Life Fieldhouse - Indianapolis, IN - 1,695 05th Dec - KeyBank Center - Buffalo, NY - ??? 07th Dec - Times Union Center - Albany, NY - 207 09th Dec - Scotiabank Arena - Toronto, ON - 627 10th Dec - Scotiabank Arena - Toronto, ON - 316 13th Dec - TD Garden - Boston, MA - 929 14th Dec - TD Garden - Boston, MA - 557 08th Jan - VyStar Veterans Memorial Arena - Jacksonville, FL - 604 11th Jan - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, GA - 772 13th Jan - Bridgestone Arena - Nashville, TN - 1,659 15th Jan - Amalie Arena - Tampa, FL - 1,038 17th Jan - American Airlines Arena - Miami, FL - 1,030 18th Jan - American Airlines Arena - Miami, FL - 882 21st Jan - Spectrum Center - Charlotte, NC - 1,216 30th Jan - AT&T Center - San Antonio, TX - 1,033 01st Feb - Toyota Center - Houston, TX - 554 03rd Feb - American Airlines Center - Dallas, TX - 1,430 05th Feb - BOK Center - Tulsa, OK - 1,796 07th Feb - Smoothie King Center - New Orleans, LA - 763 09th Feb - FedExForum - Memphis, TN - 1,737 11th Feb - PNC Arena - Raleigh, NC - 1,409 18th Feb - Bell Centre - Montreal, QC - 0 19th Feb - Bell Centre - Montreal, QC - 0 22nd Feb - Jim Whelan Boardwalk Hall - Atlantic City, NJ - 1,026 24th Feb - Royal Farms Arena - Baltimore, MD - 1,919 26th Feb - Wells Fargo Center - Philadelphia, PA - 2,013 28th Feb - Barclays Center - Brooklyn, NY - 986 29th Feb - Barclays Center - Brooklyn, NY - 1,137 03rd Mar - NYCB Live, Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY - 49405th Mar - Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY - 7,144 07th Mar - Prudential Center - Newark, NJ - 1,464 08th Mar - Prudential Center - Newark, NJ - 3,320 11th Mar - Capital One Arena - Washington, D.C. - 1,395 13th Mar - PPG Paints Arena - Pittsburgh, PA - 1,284 24th Mar - Pepsi Center - Denver, CO - 2,728 26th Mar - Vivint Smart Home Arena - Salt Lake City, UT - 27529th Mar - Gila River Arena - Glendale, AZ - 3,23131st Mar - Pechanga Arena - San Diego, CA - 779 02nd Apr - STAPLES Center - Los Angeles, CA - 2,58603rd Apr - STAPLES Center - Los Angeles, CA - 1,835 07th Apr - Golden 1 Center - Sacramento, CA - 1,629 09th Apr - Oracle Arena - Oakland, CA - 4,76710th Apr - Chase Center - San Francisco, CA - 1,627 13th Apr - Moda Center - Portland, OR - 4,132 15th Apr - Tacoma Dome - Tacoma, WA - 7,716 17th Apr - Rogers Arena - Vancouver, BC - 2,39918th Apr - Rogers Arena - Vancouver, BC - 2,149 21st Apr - Rogers Place - Edmonton, AB - 1,14022nd Apr [/b - Rogers Place - Edmonton, AB - 2,551 25th Apr - SaskTel Centre - Saskatoon, SK - 919 27th Apr - Bell MTS Place - Winnipeg, MB - 1,206 There's 92,782 tickets in North America still to sell, mostly the higher priced tickets - and a significant number of which are across a half-dozen dates. Unsurprisingly, Canada is doing awesome. It does seem most of the higher levels of tickets left are well into 2020, which is more expected. I expect alot will sell after Xmas. Quote
DionFanAlways Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:22 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:22 AM The Prayer was wonderful. Such a beautiful song. I'm glad there is no hologram "Andrea" singing his part.Holograms are soooooo 2000. 5 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
Javito Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:24 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:24 AM I mean I thought I was being realistic. She is a 51 year old widow who has been struggling. Sadly she cannot meet all of your very high expectations. What she can do is put 100 percent of what she has left into what she is doing. And that is what she is doing. We do not know that. You mean what she has left is no will to rehearse 4-5 old songs from her discography but she has will to rehearse a new medley of 4-5 new covers everytime she has the chance to? Sorry, but that’s not fair. And I don’t feel any pity for her, really. She has a huge family and more money than any of us could dream for to deal with that struggle better than anyone Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
jpatdeleon09 Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:30 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:30 AM They need a huge céline fan in her team. Problem solved. 5 Quote
Popular Post isabel leite Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:45 AM Popular Post Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:45 AM This is just my opinion of course. It is now obvious that Celine is so happy and proud of herself. She showed that in her interviews and very much so on stage. She is proud that she was able to put together a huge tour alone. (of course she has her team ).As she said in the first shows in French, before she had a partner who knew exactly what he was doing, and now its her call. As the song , album and tour says, she has and had courage. Does she like covers? Yes , ever since I can remember Celine sings covers. Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Freddy, and so many others. There was the constant Sia and Adele phase. That's part of who she is. Does she sing her most known songs? Yes , people usually don't go to a show to hear a bunch of songs that they never heard of. I read that people here have been expecting a change in set list since forever and it never happens, people I'm sorry but if she doesn't fulfill your expectations, I would move on. Like she said in an interview 'If you don't like it, don't look at it'. She doesn't force anyone to buy her tickets or watch her videos on youtube. Which brings me to another point, If you haven't seen Celine live, you haven't seen Celine. She could sing anything in pj's and people would still fall in love. She is a talented, beautiful , courageous 51 year old woman who has given her fans so much. I am proud to say that I'm her fan, not only for the singer, but above all for the human being that she is. Great show Celine, I'm happy your voice is back again! 16 Quote
Popular Post RosieBarron Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:48 AM Popular Post Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:48 AM We do not know that. You mean what she has left is no will to rehearse 4-5 old songs from her discography but she has will to rehearse a new medley of 4-5 new covers everytime she has the chance to? Sorry, but that's not fair. And I don't feel any pity for her, really. She has a huge family and more money than any of us could dream for to deal with that struggle better than anyone Sigh. I have better things to do with my Saturday than to debate this with you. I know you won't drop this. I can see this tour replacing Vegas as something you are going to constantly complain about... Life is too short, if you don't like the tour, find something you do like and enjoy it. 8 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:50 AM Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:50 AM This is just my opinion of course. It is now obvious that Celine is so happy and proud of herself. She showed that in her interviews and very much so on stage. She is proud that she was able to put together a huge tour alone. (of course she has her team ).As she said in the first shows in French, before she had a partner who knew exactly what he was doing, and now its her call. As the song , album and tour says, she has and had courage. Does she like covers? Yes , ever since I can remember Celine sings covers. Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Freddy, and so many others. There was the constant Sia and Adele phase. That's part of who she is. Does she sing her most known songs? Yes , people usually don't go to a show to hear a bunch of songs that they never heard of. I read that people here have been expecting a change in set list since forever and it never happens, people I'm sorry but if she doesn't fulfill your expectations, I would move on. Like she said in an interview 'If you don't like it, don't look at it'. She doesn't force anyone to buy her tickets or watch her videos on youtube. Which brings me to another point, If you haven't seen Celine live, you haven't seen Celine. She could sing anything in pj's and people would still fall in love. She is a talented, beautiful , courageous 51 year old woman who has given her fans so much. I am proud to say that I'm her fan, not only for the singer, but above all for the human being that she is. Great show Celine, I'm happy your voice is back again!Well said. 2 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
Popular Post Alison_Loves_Celine Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:56 AM Popular Post Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:56 AM This is just my opinion of course. It is now obvious that Celine is so happy and proud of herself. She showed that in her interviews and very much so on stage. She is proud that she was able to put together a huge tour alone. (of course she has her team ).As she said in the first shows in French, before she had a partner who knew exactly what he was doing, and now its her call. As the song , album and tour says, she has and had courage. Does she like covers? Yes , ever since I can remember Celine sings covers. Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Freddy, and so many others. There was the constant Sia and Adele phase. That's part of who she is. Does she sing her most known songs? Yes , people usually don't go to a show to hear a bunch of songs that they never heard of. I read that people here have been expecting a change in set list since forever and it never happens, people I'm sorry but if she doesn't fulfill your expectations, I would move on. Like she said in an interview 'If you don't like it, don't look at it'. She doesn't force anyone to buy her tickets or watch her videos on youtube. Which brings me to another point, If you haven't seen Celine live, you haven't seen Celine. She could sing anything in pj's and people would still fall in love. She is a talented, beautiful , courageous 51 year old woman who has given her fans so much. I am proud to say that I'm her fan, not only for the singer, but above all for the human being that she is. Great show Celine, I'm happy your voice is back again! Love this! I am intensely proud to be a fan of Celine right now. I mean .. how lucky are we to be able to go & see her & have her sing right there in front of us. I get that people have certain songs they like & dislike (I can’t stand to listen to Ziggy & I have no idea why .. it just .. argh I can’t!!) but at the end of the day, unless Celine’s shows are 18 hours long, she’s never going to be able to please everyone. Unpopular as this is likely to be .. I would be happy if I went to see her & she sat on stage in her PJs singing nursery rhymes. I just love her & her voice so much that I am literally elated to be there. She takes me right into my happy place. I can forget all my worries when I go to see her live & just live in the moment. Her music & her words have helped me through some very dark times in my life & for that I am so grateful. I can honestly say that in all my years of being a fan & all the shows I’ve been lucky enough to go to, I have never once walked out thinking “Ugh I’m so unhappy with the songs she sang”. I’ve certainly never thought that about a show that I haven’t even attended. I just don’t understand that way of thinking really. Anyway .. I can’t wait to see her in Philadelphia in February!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 12 Quote
Popular Post Chantemoi Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:59 AM Popular Post Posted October 19, 2019 at 11:59 AM This is a COURAGEOUS tour? The most AMBITIOUS tour ever? The most CREATIVE tour ever? The greatest tour she has EVER delivered? With revisited songs and listening to all albums until 3 am? This is a JOKE. It is literally the same show she has been giving since 2017 with its 2018 and 2019 additions and ONLY IYAMT can be considered as a really surprising element.... What a disappointment. Both 2016 and 2017 were risky fresh and courageous and this is recycling. And LAZY The (apparent) lack of playback tracks is actually very courageous. How long have we been asking for live vocals, even in lowered keys? I think she might be finally embracing the fact that fans want her to be natural - not perfect. 10 Quote
mirage Posted October 19, 2019 at 12:04 PM Posted October 19, 2019 at 12:04 PM (edited) Thank you thank you. For al the yes sayers in this celine camp. It's definitely not the case that we expect her to sing all the b-sides she has ever done. Or come down from a chandelier and do a Pink move where she is tossed around the whole arena. Not at all. For someone who claims to be very creative and have lots of ideas in her head of her own, and than also het creative team they show a lot of laziness into the performance. Like Stevo said, the 2017 setlist is the perfect example of the mix between her hits, rarities, and oldies. What she is doing now is just Vegas + some tour songs. Change the uptempo medley with your own uptempo songs which you claim to love and can't wait to perform them because you love to dance (her own words) And sing your new singles you just released! How do they want them to let her have a hit when you don't sing the new songs you just send to the radio and even made a videoclip for?! It doesn't work with the orchestra? Well just play a backing track or simple just lipsynch for you life. It works for her in her greatest hits so why won't it work for a new song? Trouble with FOMO? Well you lipped the chorus in London so why not now? Yeah and some people are never satisfied and search for things to complain. No we don't. This setlist shows no creativity at all. Just a lazy thrown together of a recent tour. The rest, Sony, New singles, videoclip, promo, photos, staging, lights, musically, her voice, her happiness, well done, applause. And now we need that fashion creativity and risks into the setlist. I agree with you Mirage. mirage... Yeah, let them block, spread hatred and anger, insult... but what a lovely, realistic post you wrote Don't even dare to change your bold sincerity when posting here, will you? We need people like you around here. In 2017 she really impressed me - she just bombed through hits from multiple albums in a row, covering old ground. Today, we have the same 15 songs she has been regularly singing in Vegas in various different positions. Nothing from LMBTL, nothing from TC. No Ashes, her biggest hit in years. Guaranteed IYAMT will be replaced by TT in Europe. And there we have the same old set list. I am seeing her 4 times and I will be freaking out and screaming and singing along with her but this set list is just frigging lazy. So lazy. It could be so much better. I say it almost every post. You’re The twatting Voice. It sticks out like a haemorrhoid. I hate hate hate it. So many beautiful songs she could sing. Why why why doesn’t she believe in her own songs? Why is she doing Imagine in the encore? Why not one of her own songs to give us a beautiful message at the end. Irrationally upsets me. And I’m simply assuming she is is giving FOMO a break until she feels confident for it again but they should just resurrect the playback- the Courage World Tour and there are TWO songs from it?! That’s a joke. Verstuurd vanaf mijn CLT-L29 met Tapatalk Edited October 19, 2019 at 12:06 PM by mirage 6 Quote
ryba Posted October 19, 2019 at 12:11 PM Posted October 19, 2019 at 12:11 PM Thank you thank you. For al the yes sayers in this celine camp. It's definitely not the case that we expect her to sing all the b-sides she has ever done. Or come down from a chandelier and do a Pink move where she is tossed around the whole arena. Not at all. For someone who claims to be very creative and have lots of ideas in her head of her own, and than also het creative team they show a lot of laziness into the performance. Like Stevo said, the 2017 setlist is the perfect example of the mix between her hits, rarities, and oldies. What she is doing now is just Vegas + some tour songs. Change the uptempo medley with your own uptempo songs which you claim to love and can't wait to perform them because you love to dance (her own words) And sing your new singles you just released! How do they want them to let her have a hit when you don't sing the new songs you just send to the radio and even made a videoclip for?! It doesn't work with the orchestra? Well just play a backing track or simple just lipsynch for you life. It works for her in her greatest hits so why won't it work for a new song? Trouble with FOMO? Well you lipped the chorus in London so why not now? Yeah and some people are never satisfied and search for things to complain. No we don't. This setlist shows no creativity at all. Just a lazy thrown together of a recent tour. The rest, Sony, New singles, videoclip, promo, photos, staging, lights, musically, her voice, her happiness, well done, applause. And now we need that fashion creativity and risks into the setlist. Verstuurd vanaf mijn CLT-L29 met Tapatalkyes!!!!!! Quote
Céline RO Posted October 19, 2019 at 12:14 PM Posted October 19, 2019 at 12:14 PM I actually LOVE this setlist. It is however, like many things about this tour, unexpected to me. I absolutely hate the heavily modified versions of PQTME so I was hoping it wouldn’t be included and I’m so glad it’s not. I was hoping she would sing “Tous les blues sont écrits pour toi” and “S’il suffisait d’aimer” instead of it but TLBSEPT and “Lady Marmalade” also works for me. Let’s remember that in the past members of this forum have asked for: - “It’s All Coming Back to Me Now” to be the opening song (albeit the long version)- “Love Can Move Mountains” to be performed at the beginning of the show- “If You Asked Me To” to be performed- A solo version of a duet to be performed (although usually people referred to BATB)- A different French song to replace PQTME in the Anglophone setlist- FOMO to be removed from the medley Considering this, I think Céline and her team have actually fulfilled most desires with this setlist (maybe they even checked the forum). Now the only major wish they still have left to fulfill is the live performance of “Then You Look at Me”. My only real disappointment is “Imagine” as the encore (as she could’ve easily sung one of her own songs) and the absence of FOMO (“Imperfections” is nice but is not concert material in my opinion). P.S. Does anyone else have the feeling that Andrea Bocelli will join Céline to perform “The Prayer” sometime during this tour? 2 Quote The best is yet to come...
A new day... Posted October 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM Posted October 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM The (apparent) lack of playback tracks is actually very courageous. How long have we been asking for live vocals, even in lowered keys? I think she might be finally embracing the fact that fans want her to be natural - not perfect. Then make her sing Imperfections 5 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted October 19, 2019 at 12:16 PM Posted October 19, 2019 at 12:16 PM Please please please let TLB make it to Houston. Pleassssseeeeee. 2 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
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