Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELED

[pat200]

Honestly, it’s not a hit here either

 

ANDHC, IDAN, Ashes - those are hits.

 

it is, it reached number 4 on the billboard hot 100, higher than all 3 u mentioned.

[Javito]

Seriously, so this is it???

 

Let's see... She only performs 2 brand new songs from the new album (FOMO is out), the ONLY new old/surprise song from her back catalogue is If You Asked Me To, and there's not a single NEW old song included from her discography (like she did in 2017 with LIAWN).

 

This is a disaster setlist for fans. Not even Ashes which was a recent "hit" for her is there. Not even cared to include a song retrieved from her discography that she hasn't performed before.

 

The first new song from the album only comes on the 12th place, after eleven hits have been performed. And they name this the "Courage" tour after one new album

 

Honestly, this is not encouraging at all to see for fans that have been there 20/30+ years They can do so much better than this!

 

Ps. But hey, of course there are 4 wardrobe changes during the show. There are more different wardrobe changes than surprises for the fans here That's what she seems to be more concerned about

 

And say lots of fans were waiting for ANDHC remix to be included in this tour yesterday... LOL!!! You got IYAMT at least

Edited October 19, 2019 at 06:43 AM by Javito

[browseceline]

I am sure there will be changes in the set-list once the album is released. Well, definitely by September 2020 that I am seeing her.

 

i just woke up to see the spoilers amd hoped to see happy posts about the setlist.. I wonder if she will really add more new songs to the tour and dares to skip some of the vegas favorites...As great it would be, no i don’t think so..

 

 

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Edited October 19, 2019 at 07:11 AM by browseceline

[Javito]

Even July's show in Hyde Park was better than this setlist guys. I never thought I would say this, but after having the setlist for this tour, now I'm glad I attended that show in Hyde Park

 

Only two songs from the new album is quite embarrassing.

 

I can't even believe how extremely LOW some fans are accepting the bar now. Having ONE song not performed since 22 years ago does not make a show "stellar". That addition should be expected and granted, not treated as something "incredible" after 10 years without touring. There should be more than one If You Asked Me To's and not just this one surprise song, let's be honest. In fact is the English setlist where she has included fewer new songs in her career, which is quite shocking and disappointing.

 

Having TLBSEPT replacing PQTME on an ENGLISH show doesn't make up for not singing even one single song she hasn't performed before. After all the talk Celine and Scott and Elise said they've been going through all her discography and that they found "true gems" in her discography. After saying this tour was going to be "spectacular".

 

Please guys, get real. I'm happy there's people who only to have the one song they were expecting, they're fully pleased and satisfied. But some have set the bar too low. At this point, anything she sings pleases some of you. Get real. This is not what a new tour is about. Not with those prices, and definitely not when you've been here for decades waiting for changes and new songs to be performed, tour after tour, year after year, show after show. But they never come.

 

Get real...

 

No Ashes, No FOMO, No Imperfections makes no sense to me... That is weird...And its called Courage world tour!?!? And on top of that did they really spend hours listening to her supposedly back catalogue of songs to end up only adding If you asked me too? Scott Price shouldn't have said that in a previous interview... It got my expectations too high! At least they should reinvent the songs a bit more... Sometimes I put myself in her place and I feel like after 30 years I would love to sing other songs or different versions.

Dont get me wrong, Im sure im gonna like the show in November plus her voice seems top shape, but still im a bit disappointed.

 

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Thank you. I too think exactly the same, I always have in mind their comments and this setlist was totally embarrassing. It's more of the same. Exactly the same damn program. 2017 tour was way better than this, I'm glad I attended that one

 

I Love the sisterhood between some fans. Somethings never change... like Celine's show

 

As a fan whose country isn't either in her list for the billionth time, I do empathise with you. Don't worry about the nasty comments, those ****** same bunch of ******** have no empathy at all. Not even in the middle of a forced excitement while watching a livestream of a Celine show. Take it easy around here!

Edited October 19, 2019 at 07:18 AM by Javito

[anewdayhascome]

This is a COURAGEOUS tour?

 

The most AMBITIOUS tour ever?

 

The most CREATIVE tour ever?

 

The greatest tour she has EVER delivered?

 

With revisited songs and listening to all albums until 3 am?

 

This is a JOKE.

 

It is literally the same show she has been giving since 2017 with its 2018 and 2019 additions and ONLY IYAMT can be considered as a really surprising element.... What a disappointment. Both 2016 and 2017 were risky fresh and courageous and this is recycling. And LAZY

[jpatdeleon09]

I don’t know how to feel with the current setlist but thank god she sang “If You Asked Me To”! But i think there will be changes this is not the final setlist. I’m sure of it.

[smw]

I’m loving the videos from the Cleveland concert. She sounds SO good! It’s a super strong setlist for the general public. And I think there’s plenty of juicy goodies for ya hardcore fans too.

 

I agree that there could be just a couple additions and it’d be perfect! I imagine she’ll get more and more into her groove as the tour continues and there will be plenty more surprises coming our way once the album’s been released.

 

Highlights for me are the solo version of The Prayer — she sounds so iconic Celine and it took my breath away by the end.

 

Courage — such a perfect song for this era in her life and she gets better and better with her delivery.

 

Tous les blues — her vocals are just as strong as they were 20 years ago!

 

And of course If You Asked Me To. What a gift!!! Most general audiences will know this classic Celine song AND it’s a huge treat for us. Feels full circle to hear her sing this song again after so long.

Edited October 19, 2019 at 07:16 AM by smw

[RosieBarron]

I love this forum sometimes. A few days ago everyone was worried about her, her voice, her health or if shows would be cancelled. Almost immediately now she seems to be ok people are back to complaining about the content of the show. And again it is people who aren't there who have issues with it.

 

I am just glad she's back, it must have been a very difficult few weeks for her.

[browseceline]

can anybody tell if to love you more was live? i feel like she was so much promoting this tour like something extraordinary and looking at her discography blabla but in the end they play it safe and again those same songs ! She knows how many people want to hear Then you look at me, she knows she has an album to promote, yet only sings two songs...and where the # is Ashes???? Her biggest hit in years??? I would so love to hear Ashes in this tour.

 

 

 

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[Javito]

I love this forum sometimes. A few days ago everyone was worried about her, her voice, her health or if shows would be cancelled. Almost immediately now she seems to be ok people are back to complaining about the content of the show. And again it is people who aren't there who have issues with it.

 

I am just glad she's back, it must have been a very difficult few weeks for her.

 

One thing doesn't rule out the other, right? We can wish her recovery and health back, and still wish and have expectations right?

 

I don't quite understand your comment. People travels and spends crazy loads of money to see her. They have expectations too, and that doesn't have anything to do to wish her well with her voice!

[smw]

 

 

I know I'm the minority here, but I'm actually completely obsessed with Let's Dance (one of my favorite 80s songs) and Lady Marmalade. They are just plain and simple FUN!

 

I love these songs too!

 

General audiences don’t necessarily want to hear rare songs from Celine’s past albums. This is a fun way to keep people surprised / engaged / on their toes!!

 

With that said, I do think Celine will someday do a show of rare songs from her past albums. Even if it’s a one night only that’s filmed.

[Alice]

You go Celine!

 

 

PS. Haven't I told you not to expect many songs from the new album?

[mieke]

So when we can’t whine about her cracking voice we are back whining about the setlist 😬. It’s like telling a 4 year old child over and over again that they can’t have it all and just be happy with what they have. I am looking forward to every show that I will attend ❤️

[Shamrock_1982]

What a disappointing setlist.

[nowanorris]

 

With that said, I do think Celine will someday do a show of rare songs from her past albums. Even if it's a one night only that's filmed.

 

YES! Sign me up for that!

[A new day...]

Most of us had high expectations regarding the setlist and that’s all Scott’s fault. Deep down we knew we were going to have the same boring shows but we had hope. Now all our hopes are down, and although I’m glad Celines voice sound better than in Quebec (at what cost?) the show itself is like a huge disappointment.

 

My favorite setlist so far was obviously the 2016 tour where we got amazing never performed French songs. Plus the emotion surrounding Rene’s death. And also the fact that I was 2nd row center stage... It was definitely my favorite show ever. The number of costume changes does not make a show better, the setlist does.

[browseceline]

 

I love these songs too!

 

General audiences don’t necessarily want to hear rare songs from Celine’s past albums. This is a fun way to keep people surprised / engaged / on their toes!!

 

With that said, I do think Celine will someday do a show of rare songs from her past albums. Even if it’s a one night only that’s filmed.

 

but the thing is - she does not sing for general audiences only - there are many many many diehard fans that have been going to her concerts ever since the 90s that do not see any changes since Las Vegas created the fanfavorites setlist. It looks like she ignores all these fans at all and still only gives general audiences the songs they want.

 

 

 

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[Alice]

So when we can't whine about her cracking voice we are back whining about the setlist . It's like telling a 4 year old child over and over again that they can't have it all and just be happy with what they have. I am looking forward to every show that I will attend ❤️

 

Yes! Thank you!

[sarit_celine]

but the thing is - she does not sing for general audiences only - there are many many many diehard fans that have been going to her concerts ever since the 90s that do not see any changes since Las Vegas created the fanfavorites setlist. It looks like she ignores all these fans at all and still only gives general audiences the songs they want.

 

 

 

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Nah, if you're a hardcore fan you don't have any right to complain, it always all about those "casual" fans yes?

[mirage]

I should just post when everyone is getting down from cloud 9 because she sang 1 rare old song and because she kept TLBSEPT in her English show.

But I won't.

 

 

I'm going to get a s*** load over me because

 

- I'm negative

- she works hard

- she doesn't need to tour

- she can never satisfy

- it's for the regular fans

- etc

 

But you simply cannot deny that this setlist is just lazy.

 

When you have like 20 albums, going through her repetoire till 3 in the morning, rehearse for months.

And simply just come up with an updated Vegas show you simply show no creativity whatsoever.

 

Even the mini tours from 2016 and 2017 showed more creative decisions than this setlist, and even those tours had the biggest hits.

 

She is releasing 20!! new songs in 4 weeks, if they have the audacity to just add 2-3 new songs from that album they can better rename this tour from 'Courage' into 'Failure - a decade of the same songs'

 

What do I expect then?

 

Well let me explain.

Her 5-6 biggest hits.

And for the rest, be as creative as you were in 2016/2017 and not give us the same recipe because it worked 2 years ago.

 

I LOVE that she sings IYAMT, I LOVE that she keeps an 'rare' French song in this show.

 

Just liked I LOVED Imagine in London, she thought it worked and now she will sing it for the next 3 years.

Be bold, do a different Encore each night. It's not that difficult. She is a singing library she can pull of anything right at that moment. Use that.

 

And now you can all block me, hate me, find me negative.

But at least I'm very realistic.

[smw]

So when we can’t whine about her cracking voice we are back whining about the setlist 😬. It’s like telling a 4 year old child over and over again that they can’t have it all and just be happy with what they have. I am looking forward to every show that I will attend ❤️

 

Amen!

[browseceline]

I should just post when everyone is getting down from cloud 9 because she sang 1 rare old song and because she kept TLBSEPT in her English show.

But I won't.

 

 

I'm going to get a s*** load over me because

 

- I'm negative

- she works hard

- she doesn't need to tour

- she can never satisfy

- it's for the regular fans

- etc

 

But you simply cannot deny that this setlist is just lazy.

 

When you have like 20 albums, going through her repetoire till 3 in the morning, rehearse for months.

And simply just come up with an updated Vegas show you simply show no creativity whatsoever.

 

Even the mini tours from 2016 and 2017 showed more creative decisions than this setlist, and even those tours had the biggest hits.

 

She is releasing 20!! new songs in 4 weeks, if they have the audacity to just add 2-3 new songs from that album they can better rename this tour from 'Courage' into 'Failure - a decade of the same songs'

 

What do I expect then?

 

Well let me explain.

Her 5-6 biggest hits.

And for the rest, be as creative as you were in 2016/2017 and not give us the same recipe because it worked 2 years ago.

 

I LOVE that she sings IYAMT, I LOVE that she keeps an 'rare' French song in this show.

 

Just liked I LOVED Imagine in London, she thought it worked and now she will sing it for the next 3 years.

Be bold, do a different Encore each night. It's not that difficult. She is a singing library she can pull of anything right at that moment. Use that.

 

And now you can all block me, hate me, find me negative.

But at least I'm very realistic.

 

 

plus - she did not rehearse this setlist for months. it was the easiest thing to do to bring the Vegas setlist on the road. And then ask these ridiculous ticketprices.

 

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Edited October 19, 2019 at 07:56 AM by browseceline

[todos]

The English setlist is silimar to the Hyde Park one.....change one song here and there and voilà a new tour setlist has been created.

 

They put so much effort in there just like sony does with the greatest hits compilations by renaming them, creating new covers, flooding the market with them every 1 or 2 years.

 

But hey, seeing her live is a wonderful experience-no irony here- and I don't want to miss that but hearing the same songs every 2 years makes me longing for real suprises since the setlist is very predictable.

Edited October 19, 2019 at 07:46 AM by todos

[smw]

I love this forum sometimes. A few days ago everyone was worried about her, her voice, her health or if shows would be cancelled. Almost immediately now she seems to be ok people are back to complaining about the content of the show. And again it is people who aren't there who have issues with it.

 

I am just glad she's back, it must have been a very difficult few weeks for her.

 

Right?! It’s a never-ending cycle. No matter what move her team makes, the “but wait I wanna complain about...” comments follow. Her team has made A LOT of very strong moves lately with the album promo, amazing visuals for this concert, and yes — even the set list! They have no choice but to include her biggest and most well known songs. That’s the way it is y’all! It might seem lazy to some but it just makes sense. It’s not necessarily the “Hyde Park” set list or the “Vegas” set list. It’s the set list comprised mostly of Celine Dion’s most well known English songs. Period. So of course they’ll all be similar. Where the drama stems from is when those very few precious remaining slots are filled with covers vs rarities from her past albums.

 

I’m just absolutely thrilled she was in top form tonight. We are so lucky to be fans of this woman. Her vocals were fantastic. She is such a legend. She is in a league of her own!

 

I’m very much loving the Courage era so far. Like I mentioned before, the two nights in Ottawa reminded me to be grateful because what Celine pulls off is not easy and we shouldn’t take her talent for granted. She is making René and fans like myself very, very proud.

Edited October 19, 2019 at 07:55 AM by smw

[Shamrock_1982]

I agree with you Mirage.

 

 

[Javito]

How dare you, call her lazy for this setlist? She's been freaking 30+ years in the business, nobody performs and "works" so hard like her, she has earned the right to be a living legend by always performing the same 10-15 songs year after year!!! She has earned the right to sing the phonebook and fans can't say a word about it. How dare you call her lazy???

 

I should just post when everyone is getting down from cloud 9 because she sang 1 rare old song and because she kept TLBSEPT in her English show.

But I won't.

 

 

I'm going to get a s*** load over me because

 

- I'm negative

- she works hard

- she doesn't need to tour

- she can never satisfy

- it's for the regular fans

- etc

 

But you simply cannot deny that this setlist is just lazy.

 

When you have like 20 albums, going through her repetoire till 3 in the morning, rehearse for months.

And simply just come up with an updated Vegas show you simply show no creativity whatsoever.

 

Even the mini tours from 2016 and 2017 showed more creative decisions than this setlist, and even those tours had the biggest hits.

 

She is releasing 20!! new songs in 4 weeks, if they have the audacity to just add 2-3 new songs from that album they can better rename this tour from 'Courage' into 'Failure - a decade of the same songs'

 

What do I expect then?

 

Well let me explain.

Her 5-6 biggest hits.

And for the rest, be as creative as you were in 2016/2017 and not give us the same recipe because it worked 2 years ago.

 

I LOVE that she sings IYAMT, I LOVE that she keeps an 'rare' French song in this show.

 

Just liked I LOVED Imagine in London, she thought it worked and now she will sing it for the next 3 years.

Be bold, do a different Encore each night. It's not that difficult. She is a singing library she can pull of anything right at that moment. Use that.

 

And now you can all block me, hate me, find me negative.

But at least I'm very realistic.

 

mirage... Yeah, let them block, spread hatred and anger, insult... but what a lovely, realistic post you wrote Don't even dare to change your bold sincerity when posting here, will you? We need people like you around here.

[Nmj]

I’ve seen Celine live multiple times, I don’t think her voice ever sounded so good ever than yesterday! She killed it vocal wise! The Notes she was holding and sustaining with ease!

[smw]

I’ve seen Celine live multiple times, I don’t think her voice ever sounded so good ever than yesterday! She killed it vocal wise! The Notes she was holding and sustaining with ease!

 

That’s how her voice came across in the videos. She sounded so crystalline.

[ryba]

I'm glad there's an encore, but I had hoped it would be something other than Imagine.

they are lazy and uncreative beyond words. Just because Imagine worked well in London (obviously!), it’s not a reason to perform it now on her new world tour for the next 2 years... also, ALL the covers in the show should be dropped and replaced with her own original songs. This tour needs a totally new tracklist. I think that the 2017 tour was definitely the best I’ve experienced as a fan. This, however, is a total disappointment, and it always happens when she wants to cater to what she thinks the expectations of the general public are. Just forget about general expectations for once and get creative with your very own catalogue! This is not the „Celine Dion Covers Other Singers Tour“. We gad that problem from 2011 to 2014 in Vegas where she just went for covers, then it FINALLY ended, and now she repeats the same mistake. No person on earth will come home from her concert saying „damn, I went to see Celine and her cover of Lady Marmolade was breathtaking“... it’s just a very sad situation. Edited October 19, 2019 at 07:58 AM by ryba

[Javito]

The English setlist is silimar to the Hyde Park one.....change one song here and there and voilà a new tour setlist has been created.

 

They put so much effort in there just like sony does with the greatest hits compilations by renaming them, creating new covers, flooding the market with them every 1 or 2 years.

 

But hey, seeing her live is a wonderful experience-no irony here- and I don't want to miss that but hearing the same songs every 2 years makes me longing for real suprises since the setlist is very predictable.

 

They should include the Hyde Park show as the first ever Courage show in the tour. In all honestly, I always thought Hyde Park would be like a testing for this tour, and now I see I wasn't very far from the truth

 

Right?! It's a never-ending cycle. No matter what move her team makes, the "but wait I wanna complain about..." comments follow. Her team has made A LOT of very strong moves lately with the album promo, amazing visuals for this concert, and yes — even the set list! They have no choice but to include her biggest and most well known songs. That's the way it is y'all! It might seem lazy to some but it just makes sense. It's not the "Hyde Park" set list or the "Vegas" set list. It's the set list comprised mostly Celine Dion's most well known English songs. Period. So of course they'll all be similar. Where the drama stems from is when those very few precious slots are filled with covers vs rarities from her past albums.

 

So... don't sell this tour as something you've "never done before" and big "spectacular" when it's simply not... Easy as that

 

It's the same Vegas setlist with a tiny tweaking with the excuse she's releasing a new English album (and yet we get 2 new songs performed, 3 at most counting with FOMO if it comes back).

 

It's the same Vegas setlist with a new medley... of covers. Again. So the best news we can always expect when it comes to songs are... new covers to be included. Great

 

It's the same Vegas setlist + 2018 tour with You Are The Voice Here. Great. I'm dazzled with the "new" factor here.

 

And it's even the same production as always: a screen behind playing visuals + the same orchestra members. Nothing she hasn't done 1247 times before. Not even a bunch of dancers, not even a sad decoration or an element to tell a story around about her career and link the songs... nada. Oh yes, the flying drones! That must be what they were thinking about when saying something "never done before" and "spectacular". The flying drones. Amazing

 

Don't preach yourself and members of your team that you're revisiting all your albums and discography as if they're including lots of old, never before performed songs, creating anticipation and excitement in the hardcore fans... only to find it's the Vegas setlist plus recycling songs from past tours. That's not a tour for a new album, this is more a "greatest hits" tour. Again. Same as what she's been doing like 20 years ago?

 

Don't sell things when you're not offering what you say, is that simple. She and her team had better said "we're gonna sing the songs all the public has always wanted to hear", and fans wouldn't create anticipation and expectations in vain.

Edited October 19, 2019 at 08:07 AM by Javito