Céline themed movies: "Aline/The Voice Of Love" and "Celine before Celine"

[Xpresso]

Elton co-wrote the soundtrack and won an Oscar for it. Not to mention that he performed his greatest hits with Taron Egerton on multiple occasions and performed at the Cannes Film Festival, etc. He was truly involved. It would be nice if Céline did just a fraction of that (especially the Cannes performance). Then again, my expectations for Aline are not as high as they were (and they were met) for Rocketman.

We were talking about acting, not singing. And unless it's an official biopic, I don't see why Céline should get involved in promoting Aline or the music which was re-recorded by another singer.

[Xpresso]

Was she involved in the project in any way?

She's the one who sings Céline's songs in the movie.

[PuraVida]

I love that this film is getting its moment at Cannes. Very appropriate. I know Celine has been there for the NRJ Awards, dunno about the film festival.

 

I do with the singer who did sang her songs in the movie used like 10 - 15% less nasality, because you can sound like Celine without blatantly sounding like a Celine impression.

[Balao]

Is it Céline the one singing or rerecorded again by the singer playing Céline?

 

I think it was rerecorded by Victoria Sio.

[scielle]

And so it begins...

 

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Very clear what is going to be the focus of reporting around this film.

 

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"Why are we, in 2021, glorifying a subordinate/authority relationship which we would these days call the result of grooming? It's as though the work and testimonies of the brave women in the #MeToo movement taught us nothing. The trailer for Aline positions her as a naive, agency-less young woman, who is powerless to the man to whom she owes her career. And though it's impossible to know the circumstances of Dion and Angélil's real life relationship (she's only ever praised him), even from the most optimistic standpoint, Céline and René's relationship is the exception, not the rule.

 

It's important to evaluate films (even trailers) on what they are, not what they aren't, but it does seem odd that Lemercier chose to illustrate fictional Aline and Guy-Claude as star-crossed lovers enmeshed in the romance of the century. At a time when the stories of pop culture starlets are being revisited through a post-#MeToo lens — from Britney Spears to Courtney Stodden — is this really the story we should be telling? Aren't there enough films in history about young girls falling for older men in power?

 

In real life, Dion first met René in her native Quebec when she was just 12 years-old, after he was sent a tape of her singing. When Céline turned 18, she and René began to date in secret, shielding their love from those closest to them before coming out publicly as a couple when she was 20. While Céline's relationship with René may have flown largely under the radar in the '90s, I find it hard to believe that such union would stand today. Imagine another overnight success, 18-year-old Olivia Rodrigo, dating a 46-year-old man who played a hand in her success. Twitter would (rightfully) riot."

[Xpresso]

Lovely. The North American media (or American?) focusing on the grooming and #MeToo movement out of a relationship that started over 35 years ago. I guess it was predictable.

[scielle]

Well, it’s to be expected. I’m not surprised. And I suspect Valerie may have unwittingly put Céline in a awkward position where she may have to address it.

It took all of one article claiming Pepe was “controlling her” for Team Céline to come out in his defense, so I can’t imagine they’d be silent if this becomes a story (as it well might).

 

 

Edited June 7, 2021 at 11:01 PM by scielle

[couldawouldashoulda]

Yeah, the Celine/Rene relationship seem through our new understanding of what one user very astutely explained about older men grooming young girls, this movie was destined to be problematic. It’s probably best not released in the U.S. Not that it’ll stop press all around the world from using their relationship as portrayed in this film as predatory. I feel for Celine. Rene has passed now - she doesn’t need this in her life. This movie should never have been made.

[PuraVida]

Journalist: "Did Celine's life story deserve to be told?"

 

Uh...it's her life story. She is the embodiment of it every time she goes on our television screens, or steps on to a stage. She's still alive, and Rene just recently passed. And if it's fit for the rest of the world to have the movie in their cinemas, why wouldn't it be in North America or the USA. Celine has called North America home her entire life.

 

And it's just plain dumb to ask Aline to answer for Celine's choices. That's like asking Angela Bassett to answer for Tina Turner's life choices. It's a portrayal, it's not a judgement.

 

And, have the people who are actually writing these articles actually seen the damn movie? At this point, I highly doubt it.

[ryba]

Well, that movie might now create a stir about that „controling relationship“ issue, which was long forgotten, and people really felt for her after Rene passed away. Im sure this was not intended or expected, but unforunately it brings this same old discussion back, now to a new generation. I think that the more popular this movie gets, the more that topic will stir up. Edited June 8, 2021 at 07:59 AM by ryba

[Celinelife]

And so it begins...

 

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Very clear what is going to be the focus of reporting around this film.

 

Excerpt -

 

"Why are we, in 2021, glorifying a subordinate/authority relationship which we would these days call the result of grooming? It's as though the work and testimonies of the brave women in the #MeToo movement taught us nothing. The trailer for Aline positions her as a naive, agency-less young woman, who is powerless to the man to whom she owes her career. And though it's impossible to know the circumstances of Dion and Angélil's real life relationship (she's only ever praised him), even from the most optimistic standpoint, Céline and René's relationship is the exception, not the rule.

 

It's important to evaluate films (even trailers) on what they are, not what they aren't, but it does seem odd that Lemercier chose to illustrate fictional Aline and Guy-Claude as star-crossed lovers enmeshed in the romance of the century. At a time when the stories of pop culture starlets are being revisited through a post-#MeToo lens — from Britney Spears to Courtney Stodden — is this really the story we should be telling? Aren't there enough films in history about young girls falling for older men in power?

 

In real life, Dion first met René in her native Quebec when she was just 12 years-old, after he was sent a tape of her singing. When Céline turned 18, she and René began to date in secret, shielding their love from those closest to them before coming out publicly as a couple when she was 20. While Céline's relationship with René may have flown largely under the radar in the '90s, I find it hard to believe that such union would stand today. Imagine another overnight success, 18-year-old Olivia Rodrigo, dating a 46-year-old man who played a hand in her success. Twitter would (rightfully) riot."

That photo looks like the one who played Lorraine Warren in The Conjuring😂

[comingback]

Does anyone know more about these rumours:

1. Rene broke uo with Celine at the Junos 1989, because he wanted an emotional performance of Have A Heart. I hope it's not true.

2. Rene wanted to break up with Celine/divorce in 1995, because she clung on him too much.

3. Celine was pregnant in 1996, but than she had a miscarriage. That's why she was so serious at the Montreal concert.

Edited June 8, 2021 at 07:05 PM by comingback

[PuraVida]

Does anyone know more about these rumours:

1. Rene broke uo with Celine at the Junos 1989, because he wanted an emotional performance of Have A Heart. I hope it's not true.

2. Rene wanted to break up with Celine in 1995, because she clung on him too much.

3. Celine was pregnant in 1996, but than she had a miscarriage. That's why she was so serious at the Montreal concert.

 

I never heard about the miscarriage rumour before. I feel like she would have disclosed this. And re: #2 it woulda been divorce at that point! Wow the 90s could have looked a lot different for her had they divorced....probably no MHWGO. But I wonder if she would have kept him as manager.....

[ryba]

Does anyone know more about these rumours:

1. Rene broke uo with Celine at the Junos 1989, because he wanted an emotional performance of Have A Heart. I hope it's not true.

2. Rene wanted to break up with Celine/divorce in 1995, because she clung on him too much.

3. Celine was pregnant in 1996, but than she had a miscarriage. That's why she was so serious at the Montreal concert.

wow, where did that come from?

[CelineTheBest5]

Does anyone know more about these rumours:

1. Rene broke uo with Celine at the Junos 1989, because he wanted an emotional performance of Have A Heart. I hope it's not true.

2. Rene wanted to break up with Celine/divorce in 1995, because she clung on him too much.

3. Celine was pregnant in 1996, but than she had a miscarriage. That's why she was so serious at the Montreal concert.

 

I've read somewhere many years ago about that story (number 3), but I think it was a fake news that time.

All the gossips from 90's talked about a probably/rumor Celine's pregnancy. They loved that subject.

If I remember correctly she was not feeling well around 1996, but she was having stomach issues, gastritis if I'm not wrong. She had to rest for some weeks at their home in Florida and her mother took care of her.

Edited June 8, 2021 at 07:56 PM by CelineTheBest5

[scielle]

wow, where did that come from?

Probably same place as Céline burning the American flag or dating Russel Crowe/ Kaven/ Pepe. 🙄

[PuraVida]

Probably same place as Céline burning the American flag or dating Russel Crowe/ Kaven/ Pepe.

 

Speaking of rumours, I wonder if Aline will include a scene where Celine helicopters into Vegas for her shows lol. I think I saw an LA or Las Vegas---I think it was Las Vegas actually--news shows very recently say "remember back in the day she used to helicopter to work"....despite Celine debunking that rumour many times before.

[scielle]

Speaking of rumours, I wonder if Aline will include a scene where Celine helicopters into Vegas for her shows lol. I think I saw an LA or Las Vegas---I think it was Las Vegas actually--news shows very recently say "remember back in the day she used to helicopter to work"....despite Celine debunking that rumour many times before.

 

Valerie has explicitly said no. In fact, that’s in the press pack.

[smw]

I've read somewhere many years ago about that story (number 3), but I think it was a fake news that time.

All the gossips from 90's talked about a probably/rumor Celine's pregnancy. They loved that subject.

If I remember correctly she was not feeling well around 1996, but she was having stomach issues, gastritis if I'm not wrong. She had to rest for some weeks at their home in Florida and her mother took care of her.

 

I never knew she got sick in 1996. I sometimes forget that she's not a machine... She did SO much throughout her career. Especially in the 90s.

[smw]

 

This seems like a good interview... hoping for an English translation someday.

[Celinelife]

 

Probably same place as Céline burning the American flag or dating Russel Crowe/ Kaven/ Pepe. 🙄

There is a whole insta page for Kaven and Celine

[scielle]

I hadn't realized Sylvain Marcel has already done some interviews about this, too. Thought it was just Valerie so far. But apparently I was wrong because here he is, on Julie Snyder's show a few months ago. They talk about a scene in the movie which is a recreation of one of Julie's interviews with Celine, where she talks about Rene's heart attack. They show and excerpt of the original interview with Julie and the Aline version of the same.

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CK1dv6Blgnm/

[manolo19]

Valerie Lemercier is such a talented comedian but a French actress trying to talk with the Quebec accent is a suicide mission. Judging by that little scene I can tell you her impersonation will be perceived as a real failure in Quebec. On the other side, she had wonderful reviews in France because they think it's close to an accurate representation of how we speak. I still can't wait to see the movie though as it was made with tons of love and good intentions . The biggest turnoff and most negative aspect of this movie is the Victoria Sio dubbing for budget/copyright reasons .

[chocolatechip15]

And so it begins...

 

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Very clear what is going to be the focus of reporting around this film.

 

Excerpt -

 

"Why are we, in 2021, glorifying a subordinate/authority relationship which we would these days call the result of grooming? It's as though the work and testimonies of the brave women in the #MeToo movement taught us nothing. The trailer for Aline positions her as a naive, agency-less young woman, who is powerless to the man to whom she owes her career. And though it's impossible to know the circumstances of Dion and Angélil's real life relationship (she's only ever praised him), even from the most optimistic standpoint, Céline and René's relationship is the exception, not the rule.

 

It's important to evaluate films (even trailers) on what they are, not what they aren't, but it does seem odd that Lemercier chose to illustrate fictional Aline and Guy-Claude as star-crossed lovers enmeshed in the romance of the century. At a time when the stories of pop culture starlets are being revisited through a post-#MeToo lens — from Britney Spears to Courtney Stodden — is this really the story we should be telling? Aren't there enough films in history about young girls falling for older men in power?

 

In real life, Dion first met René in her native Quebec when she was just 12 years-old, after he was sent a tape of her singing. When Céline turned 18, she and René began to date in secret, shielding their love from those closest to them before coming out publicly as a couple when she was 20. While Céline's relationship with René may have flown largely under the radar in the '90s, I find it hard to believe that such union would stand today. Imagine another overnight success, 18-year-old Olivia Rodrigo, dating a 46-year-old man who played a hand in her success. Twitter would (rightfully) riot."

 

These articles irritate me so much, because they mess up basic facts. They did not start dating when she was 18 - they started dating when she was 20. (According to every account Celine or Rene has ever given, on the night of Eurovision in 1988). They didn’t go public until she was 25 (Colour of My Love release). And yes, there’s a big age gap between 20 and 46, but they were both adults. Celine had been working professionally for 8 years by then, and had spent her life surrounded by people much older than her. In her case, it made sense.

[scielle]

 

These articles irritate me so much, because they mess up basic facts. They did not start dating when she was 18 - they started dating when she was 20. (According to every account Celine or Rene has ever given, on the night of Eurovision in 1988). They didn’t go public until she was 25 (Colour of My Love release). And yes, there’s a big age gap between 20 and 46, but they were both adults. Celine had been working professionally for 8 years by then, and had spent her life surrounded by people much older than her. In her case, it made sense.

 

I know! And the it just proliferates!

One outlet publishes something inaccurate and then 20 more pick it up as a source. I’m mean, come on, 1968-1942 is not difficult math, yet they keep getting something as basic as that wrong all the time.

[Xpresso]

Valerie Lemercier is such a talented comedian but a French actress trying to talk with the Quebec accent is a suicide mission. Judging by that little scene I can tell you her impersonation will be perceived as a real failure in Quebec. On the other side, she had wonderful reviews in France because they think it's close to an accurate representation of how we speak. I still can't wait to see the movie though as it was made with tons of love and good intentions . The biggest turnoff and most negative aspect of this movie is the Victoria Sio dubbing for budget/copyright reasons .

I totally agree. The scene with Julie (or whatever she is called in the movie) is interesting but I don't know what Valérie was trying to do with the Quebec accent! She sounds like someone who is drunk. But she wasn't as bad in another scene. I wish some of the Quebec actors would have told her that scene needs work. Hard to do when she's the boss I guess.

[ehild]

Yeah, the Celine/Rene relationship seem through our new understanding of what one user very astutely explained about older men grooming young girls, this movie was destined to be problematic. It’s probably best not released in the U.S. Not that it’ll stop press all around the world from using their relationship as portrayed in this film as predatory. I feel for Celine. Rene has passed now - she doesn’t need this in her life. This movie should never have been made.

I agree! I don't think Valerie meant for this to become a thing but I can understand why Celine reportedly didn't like it. After everything she's been through, to have her entire relationship questioned and criticized from an outsiders perspective has to be pretty awful for her.

[scielle]

Celine reportedly didn't like it.

 

Where did you read that? Because all I've seen was that she hasn't read the script but is looking forward to seeing it.

 

The scene with Julie (or whatever she is called in the movie) is interesting but I don't know what Valérie was trying to do with the Quebec accent!

 

I don't really get the fixation on the accent, but perhaps that's because I'm only somewhat francophone so don't really hear enough of a difference for it to bother me. But it generally doesn't bother me at all in English either; I usually don't rally notice there either. To me it's a minute detail - whatever the film - so I'm surprised the Quebecois reaction has focused so much on it.

Edited June 10, 2021 at 07:43 PM by scielle

[jpatdeleon09]

Did Céline really reported that she doesn’t like it or only some of the members here said that? 😂

[scielle]

Did Céline really reported that she doesn't like it

 

No. Her only public reaction thus far has been bemused confusion why she's called Aline and saying she's looking forward to seeing it.

 

https://www.leparisien.fr/culture-loisirs/musique/celine-dion-se-confie-quatre-ans-apres-la-mort-de-rene-angelil-je-ne-pensais-pas-que-j-etais-si-forte-18-11-2019-8195970.php

 

"Q: Valérie Lemercier va sortir dans un an un film sur vous. Il devrait s'appeler « Aline Dieu ». Qu'en pensez-vous ?

A: (Très intriguée) Pourquoi Aline Dieu ? Qu'est-ce que ça veut dire ? J'en ai entendu parler, mais pas par elle. Je ne l'ai pas rencontrée. Mais j'ai hâte de voir. J'espère que ce sera super beau."

 

Valerie has said in interviews that Celine hasn't read the script, but her team has.