[Charts] The "Encore Un Soir" Era

[Xpresso]

But Céline IS bigger than Madonna...

[LukeD]

But Céline IS bigger than Madonna...

Enough with the fat jokes already!

 

[LukeD]

I read in the UKMIX Forum thread that ''Encore Un Soir'' (single) reached Top 10 on French i-tunes again, after it was used in ''Danse Avec Les Stars''.

 

This is almost 6 months after its release.

[Katie]

Any news about Canada, Belgium and Switzerland?

[Davey84]

I read in the UKMIX Forum thread that ''Encore Un Soir'' (single) reached Top 10 on French i-tunes again, after it was used in ''Danse Avec Les Stars''.

 

This is almost 6 months after its release.

 

It's never too late to release the video

[Javito]

Exactly.. We like to blame Sony and her team but she is still the boss, she gets the money, she owns the power, she couldve easily taken over the promotion, told them to get video for fans ready ASAP, prepare another one, start MENTIONing the album at least with one sentence in US talkshows (she did Ellen without saying anything FFS!) etc etc. Clearly she is not there/having another things to do.

Look, she is the bestseller, I cant believe Sony denies to pay for her videos if she really wants to and is interested,but shes been always like that, loves singing but dont care so much about other stuff around

 

I remember my friend used to say in ANDHC and One heart era, that she could've been easily as big or even bigger than Madonna just by actually caring about her career, so true

 

This The truth is that there's not much they can do in Sony Music if she's a singer whose only concern and ambition today is just to perform on the stage and do concerts and nothing else

[max24]

The Felix ceremony had zero effect on the charts in Canada:

Overall Albums Chart - #32 (#26)

Sales Albums Chart - #19 (#16)

[max24]

The Felix ceremony had zero effect on the charts in Canada:

Overall Albums Chart - #32 (#26)

Sales Albums Chart - #19 (#16)

And in Quebec the album fell from #1 (9 weeks) to #4.

[Unisono]

 

And in Quebec the album fell from #1 (9 weeks) to #4.

 

Oh noo... :-(

Maybe they're waiting to ship the new edition of the album to sellers and this reduces the number of the copies purchased. In any case during the next two months sales should increase (at least in numbers, if not in chart position) thanks to Christmas...

[melquilisboa]

EUS surpassed 700k copies sold ww! https://twitter.com/ChartsCeline/status/796877661809377280

[LukeD]

Unless the album sells over 1m copies worldwide, I will consider it a wasted opportunity.

[Peppercorn1991]

Unless the album sells over 1m copies worldwide, I will consider it a wasted opportunity.

 

It's getting there Luke!!

 

Kev x

[LukeD]

It's getting there Luke!!

 

Kev x

It will have to sell over 300k on its own. This is a crazy figure! I have not given up hope, but it is very difficult.

[mirage]

And that with those crappy tv specials.

 

Now if they just recorded a whole special like they did with D'elles. With 7-9 songs from that album.

And a rerelease that's worth buying...

 

#justsaying #promotion

[Javito]

And that with those crappy tv specials.

 

Now if they just recorded a whole special like they did with D'elles. With 7-9 songs from that album.

And a rerelease that's worth buying...

 

#justsaying #promotion

 

... A TV Special like D'elles, with 7-9 songs from the album... or the album performed in full, why not? After all, we won't see most of the songs performed never again.

 

But with this new album, we won't see not even half of it performed during the album launch. Only 4 songs have been performed And if things don't change and the promo is definitely over, this album will be known as her French album with the least amount of songs performed on stage (either live or in playback).

 

And still she keeps performing in Vegas and neglecting the new music she releases time and again and still ome fans wonder why some other fans dislike Vegas so much?. 1,000 shows in Vegas with the same f***ing setlist for years and years. And most of the songs of her albums she has launched during Vegas remain completely unknown without no performances of any kind. Thank you Vegas

Edited November 11, 2016 at 11:54 PM by Javito

[Xpresso]

Play. Rewind. Play. Rewind. Stop.

[Davey84]

Play. Rewind. Play. Rewind. Stop.

Yes it's the same rant over and over again, but that's cos we've had that for 7 albums now... you'd think they have learnt what they SHOULDN'T do by now....

[LukeD]

Yes it's the same rant over and over again, but that's cos we've had that for 7 albums now... you'd think they have learnt what they SHOULDN'T do by now....

The primary reason why we are seeing these rants in many irrelevant threads is that the admins/mods of the forum do nothing about it. You have given him full permission to go off-topic simply because he wants to and potentially derail threads.

 

If I reply to his Vegas commentary now, do you know what this thread will become? And at the end of the day comments will be deleted. Remember what happened in the Summer tour thread when he said he knew someone who told him Celine was forced and not happy to do AND? As long as you accept these rants, the way you seem to be accepting them, you are not helping the forum, nor the person who has publicly posted that he rants against Vegas since 2003. A good 13 years now.

 

Anyway, I think Celine made up for 1F&4T and well-supported Miracle, TC, SA when these albums were released. This leaves 4 albums, with the lack of promo for LMBTL being completely excused. Probably for EUS too, given what she has been through, how much she has worked and that she is currently sick.

Edited November 12, 2016 at 10:24 AM by LukeD

[Davey84]

You know. ... I got a life too and if I were to check and watch every post, I'd need 8 more hours in a day! We are all grown ups, so I should be able to expect a level of maturity from every member here.

 

And whether you like it or not.... a lot of aspects of Celine career are interwoven. ESPECIALLY Vegas.

[Javito]

And here we goes, the lesson preacher! :mdr:

 

The primary reason why we are seeing these rants in many irrelevant threads is that the admins/mods of the forum do nothing about it. You have given him full permission to go off-topic simply because he wants to and potentially derail threads.

 

If I reply to his Vegas commentary now, do you know what this thread will become? And at the end of the day comments will be deleted. Remember what happened in the Summer tour thread when he said he knew someone who told him Celine was forced and not happy to do AND? As long as you accept these rants, the way you seem to be accepting them, you are not helping the forum, nor the person who has publicly posted that he rants against Vegas since 2003. A good 13 years now.

 

Anyway, I think Celine made up for 1F&4T and well-supported Miracle, TC, SA when these albums were released. This leaves 4 albums, with the lack of promo for LMBTL being completely excused. Probably for EUS too, given what she has been through, how much she has worked and that she is currently sick.

 

The primary reason why you see those "rants" is because of something called "freedom of speech", something for which you don't have the least toleration, the moment someone contradicts your posts. You do it all the time on the defensive tone when someone doesn't agree with you (last example talking about fashion in Vegas in another thread)

 

Actually, many fans happen to agree with the fact that Vegas has impeded the promotion of several past albums and that she should move on from there and do other projects. And consequently, they happen to agree and have agreed with my posts for many years, probably since 2003 like you say. That you have a problem with that, and you don't agree with me, that's not my problem. And again, it's called freedom of speech fyi.

 

Of course she was forced to do AND and she wasn't happy to do it, at the start of the show, and during several stages of it. Watch the AND documentaries, I think you need to refresh your mind. She WAS forced to go on in tears, even when she wanted to go back and just stay with her son. And yes, I stand for everything I said in that topic, for your annoyance

 

Last but not least, Vegas is the reason why she can't do other things with her career, for starters, the lack of promotion we are seeing again with EUS for example, and many other projects that she had to cancel or put on hold since 2003 because of her commitments in Vegas. So why wouldn't mention it when it's due?

[LukeD]

You know. ... I got a life too and if I were to check and watch every post, I'd need 8 more hours in a day! We are all grown ups, so I should be able to expect a level of maturity from every member here.

 

And whether you like it or not.... a lot of aspects of Celine career are interwoven. ESPECIALLY Vegas.

I am not asking you to check every post. I am asking you not to support the off-topic rants THAT YOU DO SEE.

[LukeD]

And here we goes, the lesson preacher! :mdr:

 

 

 

The primary reason why you see those "rants" is because of something called "freedom of speech", something for which you don't have the least toleration, the moment someone contradicts your posts. You do it all the time on the defensive tone when someone doesn't agree with you (last example talking about fashion in Vegas in another thread)

 

Actually, many fans happen to agree with the fact that Vegas has impeded the promotion of several past albums and that she should move on from there and do other projects. And consequently, they happen to agree and have agreed with my posts for many years, probably since 2003 like you say. That you have a problem with that, and you don't agree with me, that's not my problem. And again, it's called freedom of speech fyi.

 

Of course she was forced to do AND and she wasn't happy to do it, at the start of the show, and during several stages of it. Watch the AND documentaries, I think you need to refresh your mind. She WAS forced to go on in tears, even when she wanted to go back and just stay with her son. And yes, I stand for everything I said in that topic, for your annoyance

 

Last but not least, Vegas is the reason why she can't do other things with her career, for starters, the lack of promotion we are seeing again with EUS for example, and many other projects that she had to cancel or put on hold since 2003 because of her commitments in Vegas. So why wouldn't mention it when it's due?

I know there is freedom of speech. Same way I know the forum has RULES which state we are not supposed to go off topic. Go read them and tell me I lie.

 

 

PS. You are the one who publicly posted that you have been ranting since 2003. In the Summer tour thread. Your words. Not mine.

Edited November 12, 2016 at 10:33 AM by LukeD

[Javito]

You know. ... I got a life too and if I were to check and watch every post, I'd need 8 more hours in a day! We are all grown ups, so I should be able to expect a level of maturity from every member here.

 

And whether you like it or not.... a lot of aspects of Celine career are interwoven. ESPECIALLY Vegas.

 

Thank you. I posted right now the same conclusion, even before having noticed your post. Seems to be a logical conclusion for the fans right? Even if Luke is so annoyed and prefers to live in his denial, with all due respect.

[Javito]

I know there is freedom of speech. Same way I know the forum has RULES which state we are not supposed to go off topic. Go read them and tell me I lie.

 

 

1. You've gone off-topic DOZENS and dozens of times in this forum, in dozens of different threads with the jokes and racy comments with your "dear husband" for years, and I never said a word

 

2. I don't think I've gone off-topic at all. We are talking about the EUS album and I said that Vegas is impeding the continuation of the album promotion right now, which is true, and that she doesn't mind to perform 1,000 times the same songs in Vegas for 10 years, while this album has only seen 4 songs performed, and probably won't see anymore. What bothers you so much? What's off-topic here?

 

Please read Davey's post again. He came to the same conclusion as me, without reading each other: Vegas has been and is the obstacle for many aspects of her career, in terms of the lack of promotion her albums have seen since she's there. So if we come to the same conclusion, why we should avoid mentioning it in different topics, when it's true that if it wasn't for Vegas, she would have plenty of time to support her albums and promote them? You just want to silence an opinion that is way widespread between many fans, and that is obvious, and logical to think. I'm not sorry if your attempt to silence us is not successful .

Edited November 12, 2016 at 10:43 AM by Javito

[LukeD]

The primary reason why you see those "rants" is because of something called "freedom of speech", something for which you don't have the least toleration, the moment someone contradicts your posts. You do it all the time on the defensive tone when someone doesn't agree with you (last example talking about fashion in Vegas in another thread)

You do read me!

 

I can take the different opinion. The person who came for my comment said fashion is fabulous. Which I disagree with but it is fine to state so, since this is his opinion. However, I do not need him or anyone, to try to change my taste on it. Which is what he did. I also needed to clarify that I did not tell the stylist how to do his job. Because well... I had not done that. Now, if replying to such comments makes me defensive, then what are you? Constantly replying with essays against all those people disagreeing with you? It was over 15 people standing for couldawouldashoulda, manu23, CelinesDIVO5 the other day, yet you managed to fill like 2 pages.

 

Come on, get real with your remarks on me please.

Edited November 12, 2016 at 10:58 AM by LukeD

[LukeD]

Thank you. I posted right now the same conclusion, even before having noticed your post. Seems to be a logical conclusion for the fans right? Even if Luke is so annoyed and prefers to live in his denial, with all due respect.

Can you even describe what kind of denial I experience?

 

No worries about respect. Calling me defensive, obsessed, delusional is things I often see in your posts.

Edited November 12, 2016 at 10:43 AM by LukeD

[LukeD]

1. You've gone off-topic DOZENS and dozens of times in this forum, in dozens of different threads with the jokes and racy comments with your "dear husband" for years, and I never said a word

 

2. I don't think I've gone off-topic at all. We are talking about the EUS album and I said that Vegas is impeding the continuation of the album promotion right now, which is true, and that she doesn't mind to perform 1,000 times the same songs in Vegas for 10 years, while this album has only seen 4 songs performed, and probably won't see anymore. What bothers you so much? What's off-topic here?

 

Please read Davey's post again. He came to the same conclusion as me, without reading each other: Vegas has been and is the obstacle for many aspects of her career, in terms of the lack of promotion her albums have seen since she's there. So if we come to the same conclusion, why we should avoid mentioning it in different topics, when it's true that if it wasn't for Vegas, she would have plenty of time to support her albums and promote them? You just want to silence an opinion that is way widespread between many fans, and that is obvious, and logical to think. I'm not sorry if your attempt to silence us is not successful .

I am not arguing your opinion. I am arguing whether it is right or not to post this opinion in every irrelevant thread. Please, make sense.

 

I have never gone off-topic (except for now disussing all this in the charts thread). Even when I have my comments deleted because of their content I am still on topic. Like when we were arguing about ANDHC in the ANDHC thread. Sure it went a long way, but we were both in topic. To interact with fans, making silly jokes, every now and then, is not prohibited by the rules. And no thread has ever been derailed by these jokes. If you disagree, prove your point with examples.

Edited November 12, 2016 at 10:48 AM by LukeD

[Javito]

Can you even describe what kind of denial I experience?

 

No worries about respect. Calling me defensive, obsessed, delusional is things I often see in your posts.

 

I never said "delusional"???

 

Anyway if those descriptions to write on the defensive is disrespectful to you, I beg your pardon. I don't think that's disrespectul, it's just a description of the way you get back when some replies contradicting you

 

Anyway, you can call me obsessed with the ANDHC album, or obsessed against Vegas, and I don't have any problem with that. I accept it

[Javito]

I am not arguing your opinion. I am arguing whether it is right or not to post this opinion in every irrelevant thread. Please, make sense.

 

I have never gone off-topic (except for now disussing all this in the charts thread). Even when I have my comments deleted because of their content I am still on topic. Like when we were arguing about ANDHC in the ANDHC thread. Sure it went a long way, but we were both in topic. To interact with fans, making silly jokes, every now and then, is not prohibited by the rules. And no thread has ever been derailed by these jokes. If you disagree, prove your point with examples.

 

Ah and that's not going off-topic right? But mentioning Las Vegas which is a direct cause now for the stop of the EUS album promotion (as with every previous album since she's there) is off-topic? Come on...

 

It's always your way or your way. Now you're making the rules too

 

I won't lose a second to look up for every random post in which you've started, continued or followed the racy comments with CelinesDivo in every thread of the forum, because you know perfectly what kind of comments are. Sometimes mixed with on-topic comments, but other times just single posts joking around about your personal flirtation that we just have to skip because they are mixed in between the topics.

[LukeD]

I never said "delusional"???

 

Anyway if those descriptions to write on the defensive is disrespectful to you, I beg your pardon. I don't think that's disrespectul, it's just a description of the way you get back when some replies contradicting you

 

Anyway, you can call me obsessed with the ANDHC album, or obsessed against Vegas, and I don't have any problem with that. I accept it

I think you are right. I confounded ''delusional'' with ''in denial''. My bad.

 

Irony is that I love ANDHC and agree with part of your critisisms about Las Vegas. We have a personality gap, not an opinion gap.