[Charts] The "Encore Un Soir" Era

[mirage]

New songs and a dvd...

If only they were that creative!

 

 

Four days ago he re-released his album with new songs and a DVD, so he will sell more.

Celine's re-release with a calendar won't do wonders.

[max24]

It's not directly related to EUS chart performance but interesting. Nothing new though, but just for those who think radios "just happen" to play songs

 

http://www.radio-med.../airplay15.html

It's mainly America. They make radio deals.

In the US, airplay counts for the main singles chart - Billboard Hot 100.

 

But I've seen that even after a radio deal (let's say a week of frequent airplay), many songs fail to make an impact on the charts or they fall drastically later. When someone like Adele or Beyonce release a new song, radio play it anyway, because they know it's hot.

 

I checked the Billboard Airplay chart and the last time Celine charted there was in 2003 with "I Drove All Night" and later with "Have You Ever Been in Love".

After that nothing....

 

So far, since "Si c'était à refaire" appeared on the French Airplay Chart (November 2016), it did not chart inside Top 200 of the Digital Singles Chart or Top 200 of the Streaming Singles Chart. The album also isn't selling more copies.

It's nice to have a Top 40 single on the radio, but I would like to see some effects of that

[Taking Chances]

I think the album will pull almost 100k in France after its re-release. I mean in total. Thoughts?

 

Is she really re-releasing the album? Why and does it only include a calendar?

[max24]

If someone is interested, these are Celine's peakes on the French Radio Chart in years 2001-2007:

2001 Sous Le Vent (#3)

2002 A New Day Has Come (#14)

2002 I’m Alive (#15)

2003 One Heart (#50)

2003 Tout L’or Des Hommes (#16)

2003 Et Je T’aime Encore (#41)

2005 Je Ne Vous Oublie Pas (#11)

2005 Tous Les Secrets (#40)

2007 Et S'il N'en Restait Qu'une (#20)

2007 Taking Chances (#27)

[Davey84]

If someone is interested, these are Celine's peakes on the French Radio Chart in years 2001-2007:

2001 Sous Le Vent (#3)

2002 A New Day Has Come (#14)

2002 I’m Alive (#15)

2003 One Heart (#50)

2003 Tout L’or Des Hommes (#16)

2003 Et Je T’aime Encore (#41)

2005 Je Ne Vous Oublie Pas (#11)

2005 Tous Les Secrets (#40)

2007 Et S'il N'en Restait Qu'une (#20)

2007 Taking Chances (#27)

 

It's so weird that TLDH and ESNRQ became number 1 hits, but didn't chart high in the airplay chart! Same goes for EUS.

[Boy]

Is she really re-releasing the album? Why and does it only include a calendar?

 

Yes and yes. Only a calendar...

[max24]

better late than never

 

"Exciting news!

In France, Céline’s new album "Encore un soir" is certified Diamond with over 500,000 units sold (Physical + Download + Streaming). The single “Encore un soir” is also certified Platinum for its equivalent combined sales (Download + Streaming) of 20,000,000 units."

http://www.celinedion.com/news?n_id=395

[Katie]

N 12 Last week in France ragarding the album

 

http://www.chartsinfrance.net/actualite/news-103074.html

 

I dunno about Canada!

[nuts2you]

Does anybody know where we can buy the new Deluxe with the calendar,

[max24]

N 12 Last week in France ragarding the album

 

http://www.chartsinf...ews-103074.html

 

I dunno about Canada!

47 (up from 65), 13 weeks

[max24]

Does anybody know where we can buy the new Deluxe with the calendar,

https://www.amazon.fr/Encore-un-Soir-Celine-Dion/dp/B01LTHOWRO/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1480594957&sr=8-9&keywords=celine+dion

[max24]

The new calendar edition of Encore un soir is #891 on Amazon.fr

And today is the last day that counts for the chart.

Celinedion.com, her facebook and twitter did not mention it, not even once.

 

But we're waiting for some kind of announcement from Celine.

Maybe there will be a re-release of the album with two calendars next week?

Edited December 1, 2016 at 12:33 PM by max24

[celine19]

The new calendar edition of Encore un soir is #891 on Amazon.fr

And today is the last day that counts for the chart.

Celinedion.com, her facebook and twitter did not mention it, not even once.

 

But we're waiting for some kind of announcement from Celine.

Maybe there will be a re-release of the album with two calendars next week?

 

:sofunny:

[Katie]

Could we update a full chart run for thsi album guys?

[Leo]

I think Celine and her team won't make any more effort to promote this album. This era is over for them. Sony may still place some ads because it's a product they can offer for Christmas. I won't expect more.

 

Anyway, they should realise that this way of promoting albums doesn't work. The way they are doing it for the international market didn't work either: releasing a song unexpectedly and then singing it on one or two TV shows ("The Show Must Go On" and "Recovering").

[Leo]

It's so weird that TLDH and ESNRQ became number 1 hits, but didn't chart high in the airplay chart! Same goes for EUS.

 

Because of the anticipation, fans rushed to the shops in the first week to buy the song. BTW, TLODH peaked at #3. By the time ESNRQ was released the singles market was already dying. That's how Mylene Farmer managed to chart every single released in 2008 and 2009 at #1 as she has a huge fan base who purchased them on the week of the release. They didn't have longevity and enough radio airplay to become popular.

[LukeD]

They managed to make an album with vast potential to sell like Sans Attendre end up selling like D'elles. Amazing! Edited December 2, 2016 at 08:02 AM by LukeD

[Xpresso]

Little promotion or not, EUS is selling extremely well. Over 700,000 albums sold in a few months (and 2nd best seller in France for 2016) is not bad at all. Sure they could promote some more but Céline's mini tour WAS the promo and she probably decided to put her energy on promoting the album with a tour instead of endless TV shows (who would have focused more on René rather than the album itself). She probably didn't want to go through that. It was a different and successful way of promoting an album... and the song EUS is now one of her biggest French single!!

[Javito]

Notwithstanding, I insist it was a shame that the album wasn't released before the tour, or at the start of it, so she could have performed more songs. We only got three out of 14. If the album had been released, say in June, I'm sure we would have got more songs performed from the album. But being released at the end of the tour, almost in September when she was done, it was as if they didn't want to spoil the release unveiling the new songs

 

No more wasted tours jeopardised for a late album release, please

[Xpresso]

I'm not sure if the album being released before or after the tour makes a big difference on sales. The most important is that people find out about the album...

[Javito]

Oh, yes, the sales... How come that I was not thinking for a 0.1 second about sales when I wrote my post Sales and charts are the least concern to me at this point of her career. But I do care if we get only 3 or 10 songs performed from each album, that makes a difference in terms of promotion too. And no question she would please her fanbase much more if she had included more new songs from EUS during the tour than just 3.

 

The tour was amazing, I'm not complaining, but I do believe they were afraid of including more new songs so as not to spoil the album release at the end of the tour. Well, that, in my book, is a mistake. And from an artistic point of view, to jeopardise a tour or make it dependant on an album release is an even bigger mistake Because, again, I'm sure that if the album had been out already during the tour, she would have performed more new songs from it

[celinesounds]

They managed to make an album with vast potential to sell like Sans Attendre end up selling like D'elles. Amazing!

 

This is a very modern sound, and not at same level with other ones, we will talk about it in 2 years, and you see how this album will be dated

 

the tracks are ok and modern but doesn't catch Celine's audience

 

People want songs where her voice flows like a river in the melodies

 

and only EUS song did that, even loving other songs like TS e AV

 

on album SA they put magic they did with love with passion without planing to be successful,there were a concept, that's why the album was so good, good in lyrics, good in soft production is an adult contemporary album

 

EUS is just OH in french, a song collection

 

if they want to do something modern they should take Madonna's, like Confessions where all the songs flows and first songs are more happy and goes dark to the end

Edited December 2, 2016 at 11:58 AM by celinesounds

[celine4evauk]

 

 

This is a very modern sound, and not at same level with other ones, we will talk about it in 2 years, and you see how this album will be dated

 

the tracks are ok and modern but doesn't catch Celine's audience

 

People want songs where her voice flows like a river in the melodies

 

and only EUS song did that, even loving other songs like TS e AV

 

on album SA they put magic they did with love with passion without planing to be successful,there were a concept, that's way the album was so good, good in lyrics, good in soft production is an adult contemporary album

 

EUS is just OH in french, a song collection

 

Totally disagree. There's about 3-4 songs on SA I listen to. And that's not a recent thing either. It was the first album of Celine's that disappointed me. Bored me. From the first week of having it.

Give me an album like EUS and NOT like SA every time please.

[Javito]

A Vous is the only song that it's already dated before it was released LOL . That latin sound of trumpets it's sooooo dated. It's from the mid-90's.

[Peppercorn1991]

A Vous is the only song that it's already dated before it was released LOL . That latin sound of trumpets it's sooooo dated. It's from the mid-90's.

 

Some of us love A Vous

 

Kev x

[Javito]

Some of us love A Vous

 

Kev x

 

Aye! I didn't say I don't love it! I like it! But I notice when a song sounds dated or not lol

[max24]

FRANCE

 

Physical albums

Encore un soir - #9 (#9) - zero effect of the Calandar edition

 

Digital albums

Encore un soir - #47 (#35)

 

Digital singles

Encore un soir - #37 (#30)

Si c'était à refaire - #199 (#179)

 

Back Catalog albums

ON NE CHANGE PAS - #48 (#32)

SANS ATTENDRE / 1 FILLE 4 TYPES - #96 (#66)

 

Still waiting for the main albums chart....

[mirage]

I love this album whether it's a big selling one or a flop.

Those songs deserve to be played live.

You can't convince me that she just records it one time and then they get forgotten.

 

 

She should do a one time special show or whatever.

[Leo]

A Vous is the only song that it's already dated before it was released LOL . That latin sound of trumpets it's sooooo dated. It's from the mid-90's.

 

You are so right Javito. And people here should accept this as we are from hispanic countries and know what we are talking about.

 

People keep saying that the album is too modern... come on! Are you listening to current music by other artists? I can't see Celine desperately trying to sound like a teen as she did on "One Heart" or on "I Got Nothin' Left". She imitated Zaho on MF and TS which is a shame.

 

Let's go back to the charts. My theory is that EUS did so well in France because people reconected with Celine with SA and even more with the loss of René. The same usually happens when an artists dies and their albums suddenly top the charts. Celine kept talking about him all the time. What's more anyone can sing every line of EUS and adapt to their own lives. I think that's the reason why they chose "Si c'etait a refaire" in France as the second single, because showing the sad side of the album worked there. In Quebec it was the opposite. Feels like people don't want to keep seeing her mourning her husband and that's why they chose "L'etoile".

[max24]

On the French Albums Chart (Sales+Streaming), Encore un soir is #11 (up from #13).

Wonder if it's also #11 on the Sales (Physical+Digital) Chart.