"Courage" album - Official Topic

[Celinelife]

GoD I hate how dead her recording career is. I would much rather she go on stage rarely and have a lot of recordings for them to have her waste her talent on uninspired shows

Agreed 👍

[PuraVida]

You sound like Javito now, I full on agree btw.

 

We Are All Javito Now.

[Chantemoi]

GoD I hate how dead her recording career is. I would much rather she go on stage rarely and have a lot of recordings for them to have her waste her talent on uninspired shows

 

If only she felt the same 😪

[jpatdeleon09]

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You sound like Javito now, I full on agree btw.

 

i remember couldawouldashoulda said he will be the replacement of Javito here lol

Edited September 13, 2021 at 05:35 AM by jpatdeleon09

[Alex_Incognito]

 

 

You sound like Javito now, I full on agree btw.

 

Javito was never wrong, he was just militant in his cause. And I can see how he got there.

[Dancing_Queen]

I don't.

I don't mean this in a nasty kind of way, but complaining about something that you can't change, writing excessively long posts, several times a day, using the exact same words, phrases and emoji would be comsidered a mental disorder.

I don't think he's a bad person at all, but I don't understand why some of you keep encouraging him when he so clearly needs help.

[AdrienneM]

I don't.

I don't mean this in a nasty kind of way, but complaining about something that you can't change, writing excessively long posts, several times a day, using the exact same words, phrases and emoji would be comsidered a mental disorder.

I don't think he's a bad person at all, but I don't understand why some of you keep encouraging him when he so clearly needs help.

 

And he did it every day... for years.

[Nmj]

 

 

Javito was never wrong, he was just militant in his cause. And I can see how he got there.

 

I think he also was always right, and this forum isn’t the same without him .

[Peppercorn1991]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… I miss Jav on this forum.

 

Kev x

[Celinelife]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… I miss Jav on this forum.

 

Kev x

I don't, cuz I never met him😭. But I want to. Can't he come back?

[maki_Dion-er]

Y'all are weird on this forum, no offense lol.

 

With Javito there were endless fights, essays, repetitiveness, and disrespect toward Celine. Whatever message he was trying to get across would get lost in all that.

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… I miss Jav on this forum.

 

Kev x

 

May I ask, who is Javito? Just wondering as I have NEVER seen any of his posts since I have been a member of this forum since April 2020... Is he a member here (or WAS a member), & just decided to no longer post on here? Just curious...

 

How long has this forum been around? Like I said, I have only discovered this forum last year in 2020 (after the pandemic had started & I was temporary off from work since my center I work at closed because of the lockdown in my country.) So I do not know the past history of this forum or about any past members (as I have not seen much info about this site on google or wikipedia or anything), & I just dont have the time nor interest to go through old posts lol... (Free time is not much to be had in my life with 2 kids & a full time job... Busy busy busy...)

[Celinelife]

 

 

May I ask, who is Javito? Just wondering as I have NEVER seen any of his posts since I have been a member of this forum since April 2020... Is he a member here (or WAS a member), & just decided to no longer post on here? Just curious...

 

How long has this forum been around? Like I said, I have only discovered this forum last year in 2020 (after the pandemic had started & I was temporary off from work since my center I work at closed because of the lockdown in my country.) So I do not know the past history of this forum or about any past members (as I have not seen much info about this site on google or wikipedia or anything), & I just dont have the time nor interest to go through old posts lol... (Free time is not much to be had in my life with 2 kids & a full time job... Busy busy busy...)

As I know,this forum is going around since 2004(not sure though). And Javito from my personal experience and reads was a member of this forum who was straightforward with his words. Not that he hated Celine or anything, but as usual people who gets disappointed with Team Celine's work, they get a little oversensitive and rude. There must have been some arguments with the kiss-#ss fans of Celine here. Not that it was his fault though. A lot of people feels disappointed by them(including me). After a long time,Javito was removed. That's why you don't see any post of him. Because all of them are deleted.

I don't know if he is a Celiniac or not though.

 

 

As I said,I also don't know much about him, but reading earlier posts by the member this is my presumption. I don't know how much is true, but i think what i told gives a little insight on him.

Thank you.

Edited September 13, 2021 at 05:27 PM by Celinelife

[PuraVida]

I don't, cuz I never met him. But I want to. Can't he come back?

 

I remember when people accused you of being Javito LOL. I don't think I was very active for the years that Javito was, but boy does he sure cause certain people to clutch their pearls

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

GoD I hate how dead her recording career is. I would much rather she go on stage rarely and have a lot of recordings for them to have her waste her talent on uninspired shows

 

Yea I do feel the exact same way! Now I am NOT saying that Celine should stop doing concerts & Las Vegas residencies, & I am very sure you are not saying that either... But I think it would be GREAT to have not as many concerts & more albums than we do now (which is one every 6 years, not really counting the French ones since they are NO LONGER RELEASED IN THE U.S. & havent been since 2003, which is almost 20 years ago, so us American fans can only look forward to the English ones, & sadly I DONT see a new English album from Celine until MAYBE 2025-2026 @ THE EARLIEST, again thanks to the stupid pandemic from hell, I feel this pandemic ruined everything!)

 

& yes, before anybody mentions it, I do realize about the fact of albums not selling much as concerts & residencies do, I am not going to deny or dispute that fact... BUT on the other hand, Celine is also worth MILLIONS of dollars, enough for several lifetimes, so she DOESNT have to worry about money as much as other singers/groups who are just starting their careers do! So even if her new albums dont sell millions like her 90s albums did, she will NOT end up in the poor house lol (unlike the majority of us who live paycheck to paycheck, I am sure that most of you all on this forum are not millionaires, & I am for sure not one either, I wish lol!) & Another thing, with the Delta Variant of the Coronavirus going around, alot of concerts & residencies that have been scheduled to start for this coming fall are already BEING CANCELLED OR POSTPONED! I know of a few groups, such as Backstreet Boys, Foo Fighters, Kix, just to name a few, have already cancelled/postponed concerts for the next few months @ least... So that DOESNT mean that Celine & her team WONT cancelled or postpone her residency or rescheduled concert dates for the "Courage Tour", it COULD still happen if that damn Delta Variant is not under control here in the U.S. & our government decides to put us in a lockdown again because of the Coronavirus, again hoping it will not happen of course, but we should all really be prepared in case it does...

Edited September 13, 2021 at 05:33 PM by thatstheteacherinmehbaby

[Celinelife]

Moreover, this a Courage album thread, there are a lot of thread for bitching about Team Celine or even a member (I'm kidding with this one). The major part is that most fans are unhappy with Celine's recording career of this decade. Edited September 13, 2021 at 05:31 PM by Celinelife

[Celinelife]

 

So that DOESNT mean that Celine & her team WONT cancelled or postpone her residency or rescheduled concert dates for the "Courage Tour", it COULD still happen if that damn Delta Variant is not under control here in the U.S. & our government decides to put us in a lockdown again because of the Coronavirus, again hoping it will not happen of course, but we should all really be prepared in case it does...

What if COVID never happened in the first place? I'm sure there must be more projects to look forward to.

 

 

Perhaps Celine wouldn't have signed Text For You. Or released Tell Him video, or Taking Chances World Tour videos.

 

 

But most importantly what could have happened?😗

Edited September 13, 2021 at 05:36 PM by Celinelife

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

 

As I know,this forum is going around since 2004(not sure though). And Javito from my personal experience and reads was a member of this forum who was straightforward with his words. Not that he hated Celine or anything, but as usual people who gets disappointed with Team Celine's work, they get a little oversensitive and rude. There must have been some arguments with the kiss-#ss fans of Celine here. Not that it was his fault though. A lot of people feels disappointed by them(including me). After a long time,Javito was removed. That's why you don't see any post of him. Because all of them are deleted.

I don't know if he is a Celiniac or not though.

 

 

As I said,I also don't know much about him, but reading earlier posts by the member this is my presumption. I don't know how much is true, but i think what i told gives a little insight on him.

Thank you.

 

WOW that is shocking about hearing what happened to 'Javito'! 😵😳 He got kicked out of this forum for DISAGREEMENTS? Wow sorry, but to me that sounds a bit EXTREME... Now unless he was NASTY to other people & did alot of NAME-CALLING, now doing that behavior I can see getting kicked out of the forum, to methat behaviir is DISRESPECTFUL... But if Javito did NOT do any of that behavior & was respectful during disagreements, I see NO REASONS to kick him out... I dont know, I am just guessing here, as I have NEVER have been kicked out of a forum in my life (or even been kicked off of social media, I have NEVER been in "Facebook jail" or "Instagram jail" or anything like that thank goodness!)

 

& when you said "his posts have been deleted", do you mean ALL of his previous posts are all REMOVED? Again just curious, as I have also never heard of this practice on any other forums I have been on... Hmmm curiouser & curiouser! (Quote from the Disney movie "Alice In Wonderland" lol!)

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

 

What if COVID never happened in the first place? I'm sure there must be more projects to look forward to.

 

 

Perhaps Celine wouldn't have signed Text For You. Or released Tell Him video, or Taking Chances World Tour videos.

 

 

But most importantly what could have happened?😗

 

Yea I am not trying to be a "Negative Nelly" here, but because of the Delta Variant spreading massive here in the U.S. & like I said, MANY other artists are already postponing/cancelling shows & residencies, it might happen with Celine as well... I am NOT SAYING it definetely 100% will (I am NOT a psychic & I dont play one on TV lol,) but it could be a possibility as the situation with the Coronavirus is not getting better & we all have to be prepared for concerts, shows, events, etc to be postponed/cancelled again...

 

& yea I also agree with you that even with the pandemic going on in the past year & a half, there were still MANY THINGS Celine & her team COULD HAVE tried to do, things that WOULD NOT HAVE PUT CELINE IN RISK OF CATCHING COVID! Things such as:

 

-Putting previously unreleased music videos on Youtube, & we know there are LOTS of them!

 

-Adding a few previous unreleased songs on I-Tunes/Amazon Music/Spotify, again there are TONS of them!

 

-A few short & sweet online videos recorded by Celine/team members (again all ONLINE, can not catch Covid from a computer or cell phone!)

 

& a HUGE one (which is part of the "Say Yes Campaign thing that startedearlier this year:) RELEASING PREVIOUS UNRELEASED CONCERTS & HER LAST VEGAS RESIDENCY! & again there are NUMEROUS SHOWS that have never been released, & they also could have released @ least a few of them, even if on a streaming service such as Netflix, Hulu, etc...

 

 

But I guess hell will FREEZE OVER before that happens...

 

I understand Celine was on a hiatus & all, but its been over a year & half now of this... I miss Celine too!

 

🤔🙄

Edited September 13, 2021 at 06:19 PM by thatstheteacherinmehbaby

[maki_Dion-er]

Moreover, this a Courage album thread, there are a lot of thread for bitching about Team Celine or even a member (I'm kidding with this one). The major part is that most fans are unhappy with Celine's recording career of this decade.

 

I'm not unhappy with her recording career in the last decade. I enjoyed LMBTL, I loved EUS and Courage, I loved Ashes.

 

The only part lacking is the promotional aspect (& live performance of her newer songs) but that doesn't take away from how great her last 2 albums have been.

Edited September 13, 2021 at 06:36 PM by maki_Dion-er

[smw]

 

 

I'm not unhappy with her recording career in the last decade. I enjoyed LMBTL, I loved EUS and Courage, I loved Ashes.

 

The only part lacking is the promotional aspect (& live performance of her newer songs) but that doesn't take away from how great her last 2 albums have been.

 

Agreed. I really enjoy EUS and Courage.

 

And for me, as I’ve mentioned before, I would just love more songs where Celine sounds more like herself… like on HDAMLF or Ashes. She also sounds amazing on Wicked Game.

[zuv]

I think money drives her choice… touring and concerts bring her more money than recording albums

[Celinelife]

Its really not the production problem, Celine is recording a lot of songs(we know that since Courage was recorded back from 2016-2019), but the actual problem is the release dates they are too far away from the predecessor. 6 years is a lot for a whtile album to be released. If Celine would have been releasing more songs(like at least one or two songs a year), I don't think fans would hate her pronunciations or anything.

[PuraVida]

Its really not the production problem, Celine is recording a lot of songs(we know that since Courage was recorded back from 2016-2019), but the actual problem is the release dates they are too far away from the predecessor. 6 years is a lot for a whtile album to be released. If Celine would have been releasing more songs(like at least one or two songs a year), I don't think fans would hate her pronunciations or anything.

 

She also works on French albums though. She used to say that she waits until she can make a better record (or do something different I guess).

[Shaun]

Yeah the majority of Céline’s “general public” fans were used to new material from her every 12-18 months. Now it’s every 5-6 years for a new album. A large majority of her “general public” music buying fans have definitely lost interest.

[Celinelife]

I want a David to write for Celine fast. He writes amazing.

[Céline RO]

 

 

WOW that is shocking about hearing what happened to 'Javito'! 😵😳 He got kicked out of this forum for DISAGREEMENTS? Wow sorry, but to me that sounds a bit EXTREME... Now unless he was NASTY to other people & did alot of NAME-CALLING, now doing that behavior I can see getting kicked out of the forum, to methat behaviir is DISRESPECTFUL... But if Javito did NOT do any of that behavior & was respectful during disagreements, I see NO REASONS to kick him out... I dont know, I am just guessing here, as I have NEVER have been kicked out of a forum in my life (or even been kicked off of social media, I have NEVER been in "Facebook jail" or "Instagram jail" or anything like that thank goodness!)

 

& when you said "his posts have been deleted", do you mean ALL of his previous posts are all REMOVED? Again just curious, as I have also never heard of this practice on any other forums I have been on... Hmmm curiouser & curiouser! (Quote from the Disney movie "Alice In Wonderland" lol!)

 

Well there was a bit of name calling but he was certainly not the only one. It did get a bit heated after the Courage album leaked and there were arguments as to whether or not it was ok to listen to it (though I don’t remember for sure if it was really that which led to Javito being banned). Anyway, there were things which he said that I agreed with and some that I didn’t, the hardest part was trying not to pick sides and upset other members lol. Also, I don’t believe his posts were deleted, I remember seeing some not that long ago.

[couldawouldashoulda]

 

 

WOW that is shocking about hearing what happened to 'Javito'! 😵😳 He got kicked out of this forum for DISAGREEMENTS? Wow sorry, but to me that sounds a bit EXTREME... Now unless he was NASTY to other people & did alot of NAME-CALLING, now doing that behavior I can see getting kicked out of the forum, to methat behaviir is DISRESPECTFUL... But if Javito did NOT do any of that behavior & was respectful during disagreements, I see NO REASONS to kick him out... I dont know, I am just guessing here, as I have NEVER have been kicked out of a forum in my life (or even been kicked off of social media, I have NEVER been in "Facebook jail" or "Instagram jail" or anything like that thank goodness!)

 

& when you said "his posts have been deleted", do you mean ALL of his previous posts are all REMOVED? Again just curious, as I have also never heard of this practice on any other forums I have been on... Hmmm curiouser & curiouser! (Quote from the Disney movie "Alice In Wonderland" lol!)

 

Javito has spoken through other members of this forum explaining that he wasn’t kicked off the forum. He got warning points (or something equivalent) and he refused to accept them. If he accepted the warning points, he’d still be posting. He still reads the forum because he likes other people’s posts. Him disappearing from the forum was all on him. No moderator kicked him off.

[PuraVida]

Yeah the majority of Céline's "general public" fans were used to new material from her every 12-18 months. Now it's every 5-6 years for a new album. A large majority of her "general public" music buying fans have definitely lost interest.

 

Here are the Youtube and Google search trends for Celine over the recent years.

 

 

 

Edited September 15, 2021 at 12:43 PM by PuraVida

[maki_Dion-er]

It'd be interesting to she the charts of her peers (Mariah, JLo, Madonna, etc) to see how she compares. It's normal to see a decline but has she gone down at the same speed or as much as the others?