"Courage" album - Official Topic

[DionFanAlways]

Like I said, most people are critiquing Celine and her team about their pre-pandemic activities and strategies. No one is blaming her for pandemic behavior, but many fans have said they miss her. People mostly compare her to her earlier self, when the tour set lists, even the last few years, were better.

 

It's too late to save the Courage tour or album. But, again, how hard is it to go live on Instagram or Facebook? Artists with a lot less going on than Celine, and less money to gain, are doing so.

 

Sophie Ellis Baxter literally does karaoke from her living room with her kids and it's amazing. Annie Lennox posts short videos and interviews on her Instagram (she's over 65). Adele...well she doesn't have an album out and she went through giving birth and divorce. She was on break. Rihanna invested in business. Beyoncé also just started her family. But that said, I'm sure all of their fans complain all the time about not seeing enough of them! I would be shocked if they didn't.

 

People don't just follow artists for the music alone, it's for their essence and being and to have a connection. We know Celine is probably singing around the house anyway.

 

Then again, I don't want to judge pandemic behavior because we don't know her life. But to pretend it's asking a lot, assuming she is holding up relatively well emotionally.

 

 

All that said, we love Celine! She is not her career.

Nailed it! For me that is.

 

It's like me talking to my one of my sons, 'Would it kill you to call once in a while!?' It's just nice to hear something from the people you love. That's all.

[Xpresso]

You will always be disappointed if you compare to artists at their prime like Taylor Swift. Let's see in 20 years how much Taylor promotes.

Exactly. These people who are not happy with what Celine is doing or not doing are just too young. They missed the 90's when Celine was EVERYWHERE and releasing albums non stop. Even her people were afraid of over-exposure.

Don't worry, when Taylor gets older, she will slow down. By the way, Celine hasn't really slowed down even if Sony doesn't release new singles or if she doesn't tweet every day or week. We have been so spoiled since the 90's!! Everyone needs some downtime.

Edited August 26, 2020 at 12:41 PM by Xpresso

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

It’s nothing new at all. Anyone who is a fan has read the reviews and knows to expect it.

 

So that makes it acceptable?

[manu23]

It's too late to save the Courage tour or album. But, again, how hard is it to go live on Instagram or Facebook? Artists with a lot less going on than Celine, and less money to gain, are doing so.

 

Save Courage tour and album from what? Courage is the highest grossing female tour this year and the album has sold more than Madonna, Mariah, Shania, Dixie Chicks, even Selena Gomez, just to name a few. Yes promotion was bad and all focus was in promoting the tour, but it doesn't take away the fact that Celine still outsold all her peers.

 

You answer yourself to the question, "artists with a lot less going on". Celine has said many times that she is forced to say no to many projects because she basically doesn't have the time. Do you really want to see Celine doing a karaoke from her living room? I think she is above that, she has always been kind of old fashion. To me it's fine she remains silent if she has nothing important to say.

 

Edit: It is true that Celine is less active in social media, but it is also true that Celine always tries to give fans the opportunity to meet her or see her. How many artists of Celine status stop their cars to sign autographs or take pictures? Or leave their hotels for a second time for people to see her, as she did in London. She spent hours at the door of her hotel singing autographs after one of the Paris concerts in 2017 I believe (I was there). She always stops and takes pictures with so many people when leaving hotels. I have never seen Beyoncé or Madonna doing that.

Edited August 26, 2020 at 01:45 PM by manu23

[mirage]

Ugh just like D'elles.

 

I'm amazed by that comment of her.

I feel like okay if you are that sad and you loved that album so much, what is stopping you from performing it?

 

Same with this album she claims to LOVE sooo much.

A way to get it over with is just to do a 1 night only.

We get the songs 'live' she gets to perform the whole album.

 

Done, now back to the oldies and covers.

It's so simply and yet they choose otherwise.

 

 

 

You know what? In a few years, when asked about the album, I'm sure she'll say "It's a great album and it makes me sad that I couldn't sing it enough back in the day"

[stevo]

How many copies of Courage have been sold? Just out of honest interest. Not that album sales mean much these days, I know

[manu23]

How many copies of Courage have been sold? Just out of honest interest. Not that album sales mean much these days, I know

 

Probably 630K by now. With proper promo in UK and Europe we could have had another million seller but as you say, sales mean not much.

[beelee]

https://twitter.com/...9380286464?s=21

 

Deluxe version is #52 on iTunes Canada.

 

Maybe the old interview, Apple Music video, and apple picking post helped.

 

Team Celine does have a plan!

[sarit_celine]

Well no one asking Celine to sing from her bedroom or swimming pool, but singing from her house (Where she sang "The prayer" for the global event following Covid19?) won't do no harm, or singing from the studio is this not to her class?

 

The rapidness Celine chose to give up on this work keep be a riddle. Our lifes sure doesn't depent on this

but yes, it will be so nice to see her singing some songs from Courage, and she supposes to enjoy it, I guess.

Some fans treat Celine like every act she might take that has to do with her music will cause her discomfort.

[Céline RO]

Probably 630K by now. With proper promo in UK and Europe we could have had another million seller but as you say, sales mean not much.

 

Courage will eventually surpass one million sales, it just takes time.

[Céline RO]

Ugh just like D'elles.

 

I'm amazed by that comment of her.

I feel like okay if you are that sad and you loved that album so much, what is stopping you from performing it?

 

Same with this album she claims to LOVE sooo much.

A way to get it over with is just to do a 1 night only.

We get the songs 'live' she gets to perform the whole album.

 

Done, now back to the oldies and covers.

It's so simply and yet they choose otherwise.

 

That would be awesome! Her singing all 21 songs (maybe WG too) from her home. She doesn’t even have to do them all in one go - they could release one performance per week, along with recording sessions and Céline talking about the song. Now that would truly make me eat my words.

[couldawouldashoulda]

When will people understand that Celine has no interest in singing from her home? If she did, she’s have done it by now. Sorry you guys don’t get to see her for a few months but maybe you can find a way to survive somehow?

[Celine Fan 77]

That would be awesome! Her singing all 21 songs (maybe WG too) from her home. She doesn’t even have to do them all in one go - they could release one performance per week, along with recording sessions and Céline talking about the song. Now that would truly make me eat my words.

 

Indeed. All she needs is a small production team to film the whole thing in decent quality, a couple of musicians (a pianist and a guitar player to make it intimate if she wants to) and (I guess) to pay the respective royalties to the songwriters. But it would be a dream come true

[Céline RO]

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When will people understand that Celine has no interest in singing from her home? If she did, she's have done it by now. Sorry you guys don't get to see her for a few months but maybe you can find a way to survive somehow?

 

I understood long ago. I’m just saying what I’d like her to do, it’s exciting following such a legendary singer and dreaming of how things could be. I’m also coping with her absence better than I was expecting! I almost don’t miss her at all since I’ve got a decades-long career to look back over. I do however miss the anticipation before every show and the excitement of looking up footage from the show the following morning.

Edited August 26, 2020 at 06:33 PM by Céline RO

[couldawouldashoulda]

Question: Do people here realize how recording works? That Celine will sing 2 or 3 lines of a song and then take a break. Then sing another 2-3 lines and then take a break. Then it all gets edited together. That’s a generalization of course - there’ll be some songs where she can do a whole chorus or ending improvisation. But you can hear in songs how the vocals are laid on top of other vocals. The Hard Way is a good example. She would NEVER be able to sing that song live beginning to end. Way too difficult. She’d have to lip the song. And I don’t think Celine likes to lip anymore. She only lips her old hits. If she can’t sing a new song, she simply deletes it from the set list.

[Céline RO]

Question: Do people here realize how recording works? That Celine will sing 2 or 3 lines of a song and then take a break. Then sing another 2-3 lines and then take a break. Then it all gets edited together. That's a generalization of course - there'll be some songs where she can do a whole chorus or ending improvisation. But you can hear in songs how the vocals are laid on top of other vocals. The Hard Way is a good example. She would NEVER be able to sing that song live beginning to end. Way too difficult. She'd have to lip the song. And I don't think Celine likes to lip anymore. She only lips her old hits. If she can't sing a new song, she simply deletes it from the set list.

 

Of course. I never doubted that’s how it gets done, and that’s exactly why I love it. She can do it as broken up and as many times as she needs to get a perfect performance!

[couldawouldashoulda]

 

 

Of course. I never doubted that’s how it gets done, and that’s exactly why I love it. She can do it as broken up and as many times as she needs to get a perfect performance!

 

So this idea that she’s do a live stream of her singing all 22 songs from Courage is never ever gonna happen

[Xpresso]

When will people understand that Celine has no interest in singing from her home? If she did, she's have done it by now. Sorry you guys don't get to see her for a few months but maybe you can find a way to survive somehow?

I also don't care much to see her sing from her home. She spent 16 years in Vegas and people could watch her whenever. Let her take a break. She will be back on stage eventually. Just stream Courage in the meantime!

[nuts2you]

besides , since she hasn't song anything for 4 or 5 months she going to need Vocal training again/ a coach ,

[PuraVida]

Save Courage tour and album from what? Courage is the highest grossing female tour this year and the album has sold more than Madonna, Mariah, Shania, Dixie Chicks, even Selena Gomez, just to name a few. Yes promotion was bad and all focus was in promoting the tour, but it doesn't take away the fact that Celine still outsold all her peers.

 

You answer yourself to the question, "artists with a lot less going on". Celine has said many times that she is forced to say no to many projects because she basically doesn't have the time. Do you really want to see Celine doing a karaoke from her living room? I think she is above that, she has always been kind of old fashion. To me it's fine she remains silent if she has nothing important to say.

 

Edit: It is true that Celine is less active in social media, but it is also true that Celine always tries to give fans the opportunity to meet her or see her. How many artists of Celine status stop their cars to sign autographs or take pictures? Or leave their hotels for a second time for people to see her, as she did in London. She spent hours at the door of her hotel singing autographs after one of the Paris concerts in 2017 I believe (I was there). She always stops and takes pictures with so many people when leaving hotels. I have never seen Beyoncé or Madonna doing that.

 

Too late to give the album its proper promo, or make the Courage setlist more feature more Courage songs. And yes, I'm comparing Celine to being the best of herself, not comparing her to others necessarily. And maybe it's unfair, but I expect something of Celine especially...she's not the same as everyone else...she is a once-in-a-lifetime voice who also has the most success of almost all living musicians. I think that counts for something. She stands alone, AND she is at an age where she can still gain sizeable fan followings--not that she needs them necessarily.

 

 

Of course, I don't want to see Celine do karaoke from her living room (that's not exactly what Sophie does, but easiest synonym since the microphone is crap). Just some more fan engagement would be nice, because we miss her. That could take many forms! She could do an interview on one of the late shows, for god's sake. It doesn't have to be social media, what about saying hello or singing a song on Jimmy Fallon or Andy Cohen.

 

Your point is well-taken about Celine and stopping for fans. She does make herself very available in-person a lot. I'm not saying she's all bad. I love her! Though I think that is a somewhat special situation, and I can't say for sure that others artists don't do that because I don't follow them more closely.

 

If she doesn't want to, fine! C'est la vie. But if it's her team dropping the ball, c'est pas bon!

 

 

* p.s. love the forum + everyone, but taking a little break for a while! not sure when i'll be back, but hope all stay safe and well.*

Edited August 26, 2020 at 08:45 PM by PuraVida

[Céline RO]

besides , since she hasn't song anything for 4 or 5 months she going to need Vocal training again/ a coach ,

 

I’m almost certain that, given how much she loves to sing and how she works like an athlete, she’s sung and trained a huge amount these past few months. If anything, her voice should be in better shape when she comes back.

[Shamrock_1982]

Two days on the trot without any crap tweets from them... bliss!

 

Hope they are starting to get the message.

[Céline RO]

So this idea that she's do a live stream of her singing all 22 songs from Courage is never ever gonna happen

 

I never said live stream. I said they could release a performance once a week which implies the exact opposite.

[Céline RO]

Two days on the trot without any crap tweets from them... bliss!

 

Hope they are starting to get the message.

 

That or their “specialist” is taking a well deserved break.

[Alex_Incognito]

 

 

So that makes it acceptable?

I don’t believe I said that. But you sure knew what you’re getting into.

[mirage]

If they could done it with 'Winter Song' they certainly can do it with any other song.

 

Or even with that tribute video for René where she is on the bed looking at pictures.

 

Sooo many ways to give us some new music. But I guess those 2 examples where a once in a lifetime

 

 

 

Indeed. All she needs is a small production team to film the whole thing in decent quality, a couple of musicians (a pianist and a guitar player to make it intimate if she wants to) and (I guess) to pay the respective royalties to the songwriters. But it would be a dream come true

[beelee]

I’m not sure where else to post this so I’ll post it here.

 

QUB Musique (a music streaming service from Quebec) is asking what is the first Celine song you listened to. Give it some likes and reply. Maybe they will feature Celine on more playlists.

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEXlX-VnuPA/?igshid=d5dj8e5dsacv

[sarit_celine]

With now Sony reposting the "apples" video, I guess something is up.

[smw]

With now Sony reposting the "apples" video, I guess something is up.

 

I hope so!

[CSCfan]

With now Sony reposting the "apples" video, I guess something is up.

 

Yeah.... "Time"...