"Courage" album - Official Topic

[couldawouldashoulda]

But if i were Céline i will hire the best manager - it's a big help for her. But everytime i mention about hiring a manager. All I can think of is Selene Quintanilla. If you know the story

 

But you’re not Celine. That may be something you need to come to terms with. You are you. And Celine is Celine. So when you become an international superstar, you can make the choices that are best for you. Please consider giving Celine the same respect to do what she wants to do - not what you want her to do, or what you would do if you were an international superstar. You might make different choices than Celine is. Your choices would be ok. Her choices ARE ok.

[scielle]

I'm glad to see at least they're taking this quarantine time to boost her streaming presence. Finally putting long-absent albums on streaming platforms, unblocking long-geoblocked videos on YouTube, and posts like today's.

 

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One could argue it's too little, too late. But it's something.

[browseceline]

 

But you’re not Celine. That may be something you need to come to terms with. You are you. And Celine is Celine. So when you become an international superstar, you can make the choices that are best for you. Please consider giving Celine the same respect to do what she wants to do - not what you want her to do, or what you would do if you were an international superstar. You might make different choices than Celine is. Your choices would be ok. Her choices ARE ok.

We pay for the concertticket, huge prices, yet even her new tour are mainly the same songs. If she is really sick of singing certain songs each time - you do not have to. You have a new album with great songs of pick other of these hits. Why not Tell him with Barbra on the screen? And where is then you look at me - we have so asked for that song - where is a new Day had come. And now we have to respect that....well guess what we as diehardfans also are part of her fanbase. We have been following her from the start . Is it really that bad if we have our expectations too? She could have simply called the show Celine 2020 tour , then i kind of know what to expect. Do not call it courage tour when it is not.

 

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[kellyfan161]

I'm glad to see at least they're taking this quarantine time to boost her streaming presence. Finally putting long-absent albums on streaming platforms, unblocking long-geoblocked videos on YouTube, and posts like today's.

 

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One could argue it's too little, too late. But it's something.

What was the “surprise” though??! I’m confused lol

[Céline RO]

We pay for the concertticket, huge prices, yet even her new tour are mainly the same songs. If she is really sick of singing certain songs each time - you do not have to. You have a new album with great songs of pick other of these hits. Why not Tell him with Barbra on the screen? And where is then you look at me - we have so asked for that song - where is a new Day had come. And now we have to respect that....well guess what we as diehardfans also are part of her fanbase. We have been following her from the start . Is it really that bad if we have our expectations too? She could have simply called the show Celine 2020 tour , then i kind of know what to expect. Do not call it courage tour when it is not.

 

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But Céline has said before that the tour is named Courage not because it’s meant to support the album but simply because that is the theme/stage in her life right now.

[Shamrock_1982]

Celine and the acting “managers” have clearly shown that they are out of touch and in over their heads from a management point of view since Aldo left and its embarrassing and painful from someone of her level, that this is the case.

 

I’ll give it to them, they tried... but they have failed and they need to take that onboard and fix it.

Hire someone who is experienced and give her and the fans what they deserve, treading water only lasts so long.

 

The rose tinted Tom Ford/Gucci glasses have to come off at some point... and sooner rather than later.

 

C.V’s please

 

[couldawouldashoulda]

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Celine and the acting “managers” have clearly shown that they are out of touch and in over their heads from a management point of view since Aldo left and its embarrassing and painful from someone of her level, that this is the case.

 

I’ll give it to them, they tried... but they have failed and they need to take that onboard and fix it.

Hire someone who is experienced and give her and the fans what they deserve, treading water only lasts so long.

 

The rose tinted Tom Ford/Gucci glasses have to come off at some point... and sooner rather than later.

 

C.V’s please

 

When you play to 19,000 people 3 to 4 times a week, you are far from having “failed” as you put it. The black colored cynical selfish “I want Celine to do what IIIIIII want” glasses are what need to come off.

Edited May 16, 2020 at 03:22 PM by couldawouldashoulda

[couldawouldashoulda]

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We pay for the concertticket, huge prices, yet even her new tour are mainly the same songs. If she is really sick of singing certain songs each time - you do not have to. You have a new album with great songs of pick other of these hits. Why not Tell him with Barbra on the screen? And where is then you look at me - we have so asked for that song - where is a new Day had come. And now we have to respect that....well guess what we as diehardfans also are part of her fanbase. We have been following her from the start . Is it really that bad if we have our expectations too? She could have simply called the show Celine 2020 tour , then i kind of know what to expect. Do not call it courage tour when it is not.

 

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You have a right to your expectations. You don’t have a right to expect Celine to follow through on YOUR expectations. She’s her own person and she can do what she thinks is best for her at this point in her life. She doesn’t know who you are. She doesn’t care what you think. Sorry to be so blunt but come on.

 

Why not “Tell Him??? Because she’d have to lip-synch it. She had to lip it in her late 20s/early 30s on the LTAL tour. That song won’t come back.

 

Why not “Then You Look At Me?” She’d have to lip-synch that song as well. Also, it’s clear that she was never a fan of that song. She sang it because James Horner was a friend and he asked her to sing it. At the time she felt as if she couldn’t say no. I remember reading that waaaay back in the day. (Remember that song is 20 years old now.) The fans obsession with TYLAM is embarrassing and head-shaking. It’s no way understandable.

 

Edited to add: I’m a die-hard. I’ve been with her from the start (of her English career - her French music never saw the light of day in America. I just have reasonable expectations of what to expect of a performer of Celine’s stature, reputation and legendary status. I expect the hits...concert after concert after concert. Don’t buy tickets to her shows from now on. This has been going on long enough that surely you know what to expect by now.

Edited May 16, 2020 at 03:27 PM by couldawouldashoulda

[Shamrock_1982]

No, not exactly what I want but what she’s more than capable of doing with her musical career!

 

 

[couldawouldashoulda]

No, not exactly what I want but what she’s more than capable of doing with her musical career!

 

What she’s capable of and what she wants to do are two different things. You are trying to put your needs above hers. I want Celine to do this. I think is capable of this therefore I want her to do those things. Y’all would be much happier human beings if you gave people the space to do as they see fit.

 

Things fans have a right to: Expectations. Desires.

Things fans don’t have a right to: Expect their expectations and desires will be met.

 

Things fans have a right to: Stop buying an artists music. And stop buying tickets to her concerts.

Things fans don’t have a right to: Dictate what should be on an album, how that album should be promoted, and what should be sung during concerts.

[scielle]

What was the "surprise" though??! I'm confused lol

 

A random shuffle such that the videos aren't played in order and whatever you get next is a surprise.

[Bruno Portugal]

I'm glad to see at least they're taking this quarantine time to boost her streaming presence. Finally putting long-absent albums on streaming platforms, unblocking long-geoblocked videos on YouTube, and posts like today's.

 

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One could argue it's too little, too late. But it's something.

 

Why they don’t promote another songs from this fabulous album???

Where is the Lying Down music video, for instance?

[Shamrock_1982]

 

 

What she’s capable of and what she wants to do are two different things. You are trying to put your needs above hers. I want Celine to do this. I think is capable of this therefore I want her to do those things. Y’all would be much happier human beings if you gave people the space to do as they see fit.

 

Things fans have a right to: Expectations. Desires.

Things fans don’t have a right to: Expect their expectations and desires will be met.

 

Things fans have a right to: Stop buying an artists music. And stop buying tickets to her concerts.

Things fans don’t have a right to: Dictate what should be on an album, how that album should be promoted, and what should be sung during concerts.

 

As an artist she is a product and I have come to expect a certain level from her that she has given and is more than capable of giving, but in recent years this level has lacked. ( when she no longer had a manager to organise/plan/push this forward ).

 

My point is, she has it in her, but she needs a manager to get back to that level.

 

The lack of promo on this album clearly shows one example of what I am referring to... how hard is it to release the lying video for example that was filmed months ago, it’s plain lazy considering the tour ended weeks ago and despite people working from home, her team appear to be happy posting throw backs to a 2008 tour rather than releasing something new from the new album.

 

And if you disagree with this point, you need to take your Rose coloured glasses off!

 

 

 

 

[scielle]

As an artist she is a product and I have come to expect a certain level from her that she has given and is more than capable of giving, but in recent years this level has lacked. ( when she no longer had a manager to organise/plan/push this forward ).

 

My point is, she has it in her, but she needs a manager to get back to that level.

 

 

Sure, but you don't seem to have considered that perhaps she simply doesn't want to. The break-neck speed she was going at for years meant a lot of personal sacrifices. And at this point in her life, she has every right to do as much - or as little - as she wants. She's been working since age 12. Let the woman have a life.

[Shamrock_1982]

She should drop “the best is yet to come” bullshit if that’s the case lol.

[scielle]

She should drop “the best is yet to come” bullshit if that’s the case lol.

 

Fair - but the best for you, or for her?

Because she could very well mean the latter.

[Shamrock_1982]

I think the best has come and gone from a career point of view, so yeah maybe she’s talking about retirement lmao.

[couldawouldashoulda]

 

 

As an artist she is a product and I have come to expect a certain level from her that she has given and is more than capable of giving, but in recent years this level has lacked. ( when she no longer had a manager to organise/plan/push this forward ).

 

My point is, she has it in her, but she needs a manager to get back to that level.

 

The lack of promo on this album clearly shows one example of what I am referring to... how hard is it to release the lying video for example that was filmed months ago, it’s plain lazy considering the tour ended weeks ago and despite people working from home, her team appear to be happy posting throw backs to a 2008 tour rather than releasing something new from the new album.

 

And if you disagree with this point, you need to take your Rose coloured glasses off!

 

I have no rose colored glasses, my friend. I simply have reality. There are endless amounts of television, movies, songs, paintings, music videos, etc. that are never finished or never see the light of day. And there are so many business reasons that go into that rather than just “laziness.” Yours is a very simplistic view of the world and far from a realistic one.

[couldawouldashoulda]

She should drop “the best is yet to come” bullshit if that’s the case lol.

 

 

The best is yet to come refers to HER LIFE!

[Shamrock_1982]

I must have missed her finally answering/confirming that after mentioning it after all these years, feel free to upload and share this video for us all, what an exclusive for the forum you have there?!!

[couldawouldashoulda]

I must have missed her finally answering/confirming that after mentioning it after all these years, feel free to upload and share this video for us all, what an exclusive for the forum you have there?!!

 

You just like to be a “***t”, as they like to say on your side of the pond, don’t you? Show me the video where she says it’s about music. We all know she doesn’t discuss music in interviews. So when she says “the best is you come” what makes you think it’s about music? You’ve got your own very interesting forum there, don’t you. SMFH

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

But you’re not Celine. That may be something you need to come to terms with. You are you. And Celine is Celine. So when you become an international superstar, you can make the choices that are best for you. Please consider giving Celine the same respect to do what she wants to do - not what you want her to do, or what you would do if you were an international superstar. You might make different choices than Celine is. Your choices would be ok. Her choices ARE ok.

 

Yup! I know that don’t worry. I respect her choices. That comment is for me only since we cannot be céline. That’s why i said if i were her. It’s my opinion not hers.

[couldawouldashoulda]

And then I remember how to use the ignore function and all is right in the world.

[Shamrock_1982]

Wow naming calling how immature.

 

You have a good day now ya hear

[jpatdeleon09]

What’s happening? People are short tempered today. Maybe the series finales has something to do with it. I can’t blame you guys. So many good series has come to an end. It hurts

 

I wonder if céline has started watching series. I remember she said she doesn’t watch TV.

Edited May 16, 2020 at 04:48 PM by jpatdeleon09

[Shamrock_1982]

Smooth conversation change there I like your style, lol.

[jpatdeleon09]

I'm glad to see at least they're taking this quarantine time to boost her streaming presence. Finally putting long-absent albums on streaming platforms, unblocking long-geoblocked videos on YouTube, and posts like today's.

 

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One could argue it's too little, too late. But it's something.

 

I agree with you

[jpatdeleon09]

 

What was the “surprise” though??! I’m confused lol

 

Maybe they’ll update the playlist every other day or every week? Just like in Apple Music. Playlists are being updated every sunday

[manolo19]

Celine doesn't want a manager she just wants to choose dresses, film amazing videos for Loreal but Boring vidéos for her music.. She likes the autopilot for the people that love her for titanic but couldn't care less for her New music . I hope she takes this time off to maybe let the artist inside her reshape her career and consider all the possibilites she has in terms of inspiration and creativity with her own catalogue. I know she can do it and still have hope she has passion for music Edited May 16, 2020 at 04:54 PM by manolo19

[scielle]

Celine doesn't want a manager she just wants to choose dresses, film amazing videos for Loreal but Boring vidéos for her music.. She likes the autopilot for the people that love her for titanic but couldn't care less for her New music . I hope she takes this time off to maybe let the artist inside her reshape her career and consider all the possibilites she has in terms of inspiration and creativity with her own catalogue. I know she can do it and still have hope she has passion for music

 

Well, I happen to think Imperfections and Courage are among the best videos of her career (though admittedly have to watch the former with sound off because still can’t stand the song).

 

But yes, I hope she takes this time to creatively recharge.