"Courage" album - Official Topic

[jpatdeleon09]

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At least it’s not as bad as “Falling in Love Again” where the imbalance is even bigger, and that song also has stunningly beautiful instrumentals.

 

Still, it’s louder but not that bad compared to LMBTL album vocals where it’s so loud. That’s why if they ever release the full version of that string and bass. I’ll continue editing it and balance céline’s vocals to the instrumentals just like i did on sample

Edited May 15, 2020 at 08:33 AM by jpatdeleon09

[duri]

I was listening Courage today after few weeks and as I created my favuorite list in survivor topic I was thinking about distibute songs for 2 separate albums.

 

"Courage album"

1. Flying on my own

2. Lovers never die

3. Courage

4. Change my mind

5. The chase

6. I will be stronger

7. How did you get here

8. Best of all

9. Boundaries

10. The hard way

 

"Second album"

1. Heart of glass

2. Falling in love again

3. Lying down

4. Imperfection

5. Say yes

6. Nobody´s watching

7. For the lover that I lost

8. Baby

9. Look at us now

10. Perfect goodbye

Edited May 15, 2020 at 12:02 PM by duri

[Céline RO]

I was listening Courage today after few weeks and as I created my favuorite list in survivor topic I was thinking about distibute songs for 2 separate albums.

 

"Courage album"

1. Flying on my own

2. Lovers never die

3. Courage

4. Change my mind

5. The chase

6. I will be stronger

7. How did you get here

8. Best of all

9. Boundaries

10. The hard way

 

"Second album"

1. Heart of glass

2. Falling in love again

3. Lying down

4. Imperfection

5. Say yes

6. Nobody´s watching

7. For the lover that I lost

8. Baby

9. Look at us now

10. Perfect goodbye

 

I prefer the first one.

[smw]

This article explains how Mariah’s fans got her album (released years ago) back to #1. I’d love to do the same for Celine’s Courage!

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/mariah-carey-emc2-itunes-991334/

[Shamrock_1982]

That ship has well and truly sailed and why should we care when her own team... I mean inner circle and the Canadian branch of Sony don’t give a s*** lol.

 

 

[scielle]

That ship has well and truly sailed and why should we care when her own team... I mean inner circle and the Canadian branch of Sony don’t give a s*** lol.

 

I wonder how much of the initially intended promo was derailed by her illness and the need to reshuffle things. Wasn't it you who mentioned there was promo planned for the UK that got shelved?

[Shamrock_1982]

There was loads planned for the Uk, she may have even been at our listening party if it wasn’t for da flu

[scielle]

There was loads planned for the Uk, she may have even been at our listening party if it wasn’t for da flu

 

That's such a bummer.

I really, really hope we don't have to wait years for the next album, but I fear that's increasingly going to be the case. More and more sporadic releases from here on.

[Shamrock_1982]

I think many people now no longer care after the wait and hype for this album.

 

She’s just literally a money making machine who became scripted and lazy mainly due to her Vegas shows and in recent years to me, her heart simply isn’t in it anymore, it’s just something that comes with the job/contract that has to be done.

 

I hope this time off gives her time to think about her direction, new ideas, a different approach from a performing point of view and begins a new an exciting chapter of her career as an artist... she hasn’t had a break really since Rene died, so hopefully this period does her good as a singer and as a person

 

 

[Shamrock_1982]

Oh and yeah this time gives her enough bloody time to interview for a manager!!!

[jpatdeleon09]

After over 700 shows in las vegas performing 5 nights a week for 5 years. Who wouldn’t get tired after that? Then, a world tour followed for a year. Then, took a one year off to rest and try to have a baby Then, back to residency show. But Céline changed Las Vegas. So, I can’t complain with that. But still. It’s very tiring. The repetition night after night. It’s hard. No one can ever do that the way she did.

 

I’m still amazed she did that. Finishing the contracts some would have left. Very professional.

 

So, no one should ever compare her to other singers.

 

I’m curious if the residency shows didn’t happened...

[jpatdeleon09]

If the residency show didn’t happened back in 2003.. Maybe she will make more albums, world tours and more tv appearances on award shows, etc. like 90’s

[CelinesDIVO5]

I think many people now no longer care after the wait and hype for this album.

 

She’s just literally a money making machine who became scripted and lazy mainly due to her Vegas shows and in recent years to me, her heart simply isn’t in it anymore, it’s just something that comes with the job/contract that has to be done.

 

I hope this time off gives her time to think about her direction, new ideas, a different approach from a performing point of view and begins a new an exciting chapter of her career as an artist... she hasn’t had a break really since Rene died, so hopefully this period does her good as a singer and as a person

 

I think the fact that she took so much time to put this album together says just the opposite. That she put her whole heart into it. She took the time to choose the perfect songs. She loved every single one that she recorded and had to be very meticulous about how the track list ended up. I’d rather her take her time like she did with “Courage” than pick a bunch of songs and record the album within a week.

[Balao]

This is the most exciting chapter of her career.

I mean the times just before the lockdown. A great new album and new show, great TV appearances. It's like she's getting better and better.

[PuraVida]

This is the most exciting chapter of her career.

I mean the times just before the lockdown. A great new album and new show, great TV appearances. It's like she's getting better and better.

 

What were the great TV appearances?

 

I think Celine had potential to have a true renaissance with this album, but the potential has really not been fulfilled. And that’s disappointing.

[guigafs15]

After over 700 shows in las vegas performing 5 nights a week for 5 years. Who wouldn’t get tired after that? Then, a world tour followed for a year. Then, took a one year off to rest and try to have a baby Then, back to residency show. But Céline changed Las Vegas. So, I can’t complain with that. But still. It’s very tiring. The repetition night after night. It’s hard. No one can ever do that the way she did.

 

I’m still amazed she did that. Finishing the contracts some would have left. Very professional.

 

So, no one should ever compare her to other singers.

 

I’m curious if the residency shows didn’t happened...

 

I think this it's so funny. Most of the people in this world work like 8 to 12 hours every week, a lot of then in weekends too. They don't have millions of dollars to relax and go whatever they want in their free time, live always in a budget. They don't have people to take care of their kids or clean their houses, so they have to do it when they're back from work.

 

But if an artist do one fifth of that, we all like: "Oh, poor baby, works to much".

 

BTW, that's not a judgment to you. We all do that. Just sharing a thought here😅

[jpatdeleon09]

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I think this it's so funny. Most of the people in this world work like 8 to 12 hours every week, a lot of then in weekends too. They don't have millions of dollars to relax and go whatever they want in their free time, live always in a budget. They don't have people to take care of their kids or clean their houses, so they have to do it when they're back from work.

 

But if an artist do one fifth of that, we all like: "Oh, poor baby, works to much".

 

BTW, that's not a judgment to you. We all do that. Just sharing a thought here��

 

i wouldn’t compare her residency shows to people working 8-12 hours a day. It’s very different. Performing onstage is very different and much more tiring. Does this people always get sick from working? Not much compared to Céline. How many times did she cancelled her shows due to sickness and having this so called “Vegas throat” to adjust?

 

Performing vs Normal work which is mostly just sitting in your chairs In front of computers. I wouldn’t compare it.

 

Actually, Céline is working 8 hours a night when she was performing at las vegas. She go to colosseum maybe at 5pm for the sound checksssss, perform and go home at 12am. Performing onstage is hard. It’s hard to be in top shape just to entertain people watching you compared to a normal work at the office. Some even have a time to gossip during work/short fun at comfort rooms lol

 

it’s easy to judge unless you experience it

Edited May 16, 2020 at 07:40 AM by jpatdeleon09

[Balao]

What were the great TV appearances?

 

I think Celine had potential to have a true renaissance with this album, but the potential has really not been fulfilled. And that's disappointing.

 

Carpool, Jimmy Fallon and above all Andy Cohen ! Great interviews !

[ryba]

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After over 700 shows in las vegas performing 5 nights a week for 5 years. Who wouldn't get tired after that? Then, a world tour followed for a year. Then, took a one year off to rest and try to have a baby Then, back to residency show. But Céline changed Las Vegas. So, I can't complain with that. But still. It's very tiring. The repetition night after night. It's hard. No one can ever do that the way she did.

 

I'm still amazed she did that. Finishing the contracts some would have left. Very professional.

 

So, no one should ever compare her to other singers.

 

I'm curious if the residency shows didn't happened...

come on, is anybody pity for you who has to go to work from Monday to Friday and work 8 hours a day earning less a year than what she ears for one concert? Lol That really isn’t a valid excuse Edited May 16, 2020 at 08:14 AM by ryba

[ryba]

What were the great TV appearances?

 

I think Celine had potential to have a true renaissance with this album, but the potential has really not been fulfilled. And that's disappointing.

yes, before the lockdown there was total silence after the release week or two.

[ryba]

1589594590[/url]' post='2383674']

If the residency show didn't happened back in 2003.. Maybe she will make more albums, world tours and more tv appearances on award shows, etc. like 90's

I don’t think so. The industry changed too much and artists were no longer making money with new music. She would ultimately had to switch to performing more, or find an alternative like acting, a fashion brand etc. Edited May 16, 2020 at 08:22 AM by ryba

[jpatdeleon09]

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come on, is anybody pity for you who has to go to work from Monday to Friday and work 8 hours a day earning less a year than what she ears for one concert? Lol That really isn’t a valid excuse

 

None, since people who work mon to fri for 8 hours has no complaints at all. Unless you got very lazy lol I don’t see that with some people i see mostly where they can still go home when it’s break time from work. They can even sleep then go back to office after. Same to others. Break to gossip. Break to have short fun.

 

Performing is different. No wonder why she’s so tired 5pm to 12am every night.. no breaks, worrying if she will be in top shape or in the mood to entertain different people around the world night after night. Yes, she’s making millions of dollars but she can also lose millions of dollars in a just a snap of a finger if it didn’t go well. Well, we don’t know what it really feels on stage if you’re céline. It’s easy to say that all she did was easy lol but in reality it’s hard. More in this era. People are easy to judge, bash you, and get tired easily of you. Like what’s happening now in this forum.

 

i just wish she still have the best team or else....

 

as the famous words of céline.

 

“If it didn’t go well, i will just sell everything and start all over as a mom”.

 

Well, that is just what i feel that i think she will feel after performing so so so much during that 2003-2007 residency show that is why i brought it up. The amount of shows will change you big time, your priorities, everything. Compared to other singers who has lesser shows. Maybe that’s why some have more time or the energy or fun in making more music?

 

i guess it would be great if she has lesser shows during that era.. you know.

Edited May 16, 2020 at 09:21 AM by jpatdeleon09

[jpatdeleon09]

What i want is for her to hire the best manager to bring the best of her again. You know, waking up the tired Céline somewhere inside of...her?

 

so, the fans will not think that she and her team are getting lazy.. that they can do much better. They can do that with the best manager lol

 

the question who?

Edited May 16, 2020 at 09:26 AM by jpatdeleon09

[jeje03100]

une question où en est le projet de sortir les chansons enregistrer pour courage parler en interview par Céline?

 

a question where is the project to release the songs to record for courage to speak in interview by Céline?

 

New ep ? New album ? This year ?

[jpatdeleon09]

une question où en est le projet de sortir les chansons enregistrer pour courage parler en interview par Céline?

 

a question where is the project to release the songs to record for courage to speak in interview by Céline?

 

New ep ? New album ? This year ?

 

i think releasing an album this year is still too early.. since she’s not yet done promoting the recent album. Her concert is postponed until next year.

 

If they release a new song/single... after a week fans would crave for more. Then, complain again

[jpatdeleon09]

Rene should give her a sign to hire a competent manager maybe she’s still waiting for rene’s signs lol

 

Anyways, I’m happy that this forum exists. I think it’s a big help for the fans. Some here are giving us trivias, performances and infos that we never knew before, etc.

Just to forget a moment for waiting for Céline‘s next steps lol

 

I don’t know for some here. I think some people are just waiting for complaints then liking it haha

Edited May 16, 2020 at 10:10 AM by jpatdeleon09

[Balao]

Céline Dion is Céline Dion 24/7. It's not a part-time job. When she's touring, it's not just the shows or the rehearsals. She has so many photoshoots. She has to be perfect all the time. She's under public scrutiny all the time. It's probably as difficult as working in a factory 8 hours a day 5 days a week. Maybe even more difficult.

[couldawouldashoulda]

From the perspective of someone who is Only 4 years younger than Celine...the older you get, the less you care about things. You don’t care what people think. You don’t care about chasing things like “dreams” “success” “marketing yourself” “selling yourself” “accolades”...those are all young people’s issues. You naturally slow down as you get older. You become a parent and your kids give you an entirely new outlook on life. They become the most important things. Work is work is work is work.

 

Celine really could stop performing. She doesn’t need to go on a world tour. She could become a Streisand and stay at home and only come out of her box only every 4/5 years and do a tour of only 20 or so cities.

 

Sometimes, the fans don’t know how lucky they have it. And how spoiled and selfish they come across when wanting Celine to be something or do something other she is. What? You want to her to be on every talk show and have #1 songs? She’s “been there done that got the t-shirt.” Or in her case “been there done that everyone else has the t-shirts.” Céline is exactly where she wants to be, living life exactly the way she wants to live it. Why do the fans have such a hard time letting her be? Sometimes, and again, as you age, it’s ok to just be....

[Xpresso]

I think there is a nuance to be made. She indeed put her whole heart into this Courage album and it took a long time - as long as she needed to make it perfect (for her - not for the critics). But the passion that is no longer there is the need to promote and push that album. She did the minimum that she could in terms of promotion.

And as couldawouldashoulda just said, with age this stuff is not a priority anymore. She worked REALLY HARD for nearly 30 years to get this legend status!

(8 to 12 hour days? Celine did that for a long time to get where she is today! Recording, interviews, travel, promo, music videos, TV specials, award shows, tours, charity events, greet & meets, signing autographs, etc.)

 

When you guys turn 52, think about Celine and you might understand where she is coming from!

Edited May 16, 2020 at 01:14 PM by Xpresso

[jpatdeleon09]

But if i were Céline i will hire the best manager - it’s a big help for her. But everytime i mention about hiring a manager. All I can think of is Selene Quintanilla. If you know the story