"Courage" album - Official Topic

[jepoi]

I'm not gloating but i think it's for the best if it happens so it will knock some sense into her head. Lol

 

 

 

You bet they will. She MUST avoid this at all costs.

[CelineDionFreak]

Just let it go people, I have. The ship is leaving the harbor. She was Fallon and didn't sing anything from the album. Instead every interviewer asks her what does courage mean to her and it's the same answer from her. She's so good at recycling crap responses like not wanting to sing MHWGO. Yes, we know, you are happy they didn't listen to you. She doesn't sing but two songs on tour, I for one thought she would add more when the album was released but we know what happened with that move. She's over it, period. Let her do her bread and butter songs that she repeats that she's so tired of doing.

 

Here's to an amazing album that I will continue to enjoy regardless of if she's number 1 or number 649!

Part of me wonders if it’s partly Denis’s fault. He’s been through her with everything, and while that’s good, I think they may be abiding by “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”. Well, you don’t know if it is broke unless you give it a shot . Even 2 more songs from Courage could work in the show. They wouldn’t have to cut anything. But alas, it’s no use I fear.

[smw]

Celine is a touring force.

The album will inevitably drop.

But she will remain at the top of the touring charts as long as she's performing.

So we'll still have that to cling onto and that's no small feat!

She's remained a legend and people will always want to see Celine perform.

It's just impossible to compete with kids / teens who control streaming.

 

Celine was fortunate to dominate in the 90s and no one will come close to the amounts of albums she sold back in the day.

I'm thankful we have such an incredible album.

I hope that -- with the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade and beyond -- the general public will continue to discover her new music.

[scielle]

I'm not gloating but i think it's for the best if it happens so it will knock some sense into her head. Lol

 

Or it'll discourage her from recording all together.

I mean, why bother? If nobody's listening? And she doesn't need (or want) the new material to sell hundreds of thousands of tickets, with the set list being what it is?

[browseceline]

Celine is a touring force.

The album will inevitably drop.

But she will remain at the top of the touring charts as long as she's performing.

So we'll still have that to cling onto and that's no small feat!

She's remained a legend and people will always want to see Celine perform.

It's just impossible to compete with kids / teens who control streaming.

 

Celine was fortunate to dominate in the 90s and no one will come close to the amounts of albums she sold back in the day.

I'm thankful we have such an incredible album.

I hope that -- with the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade and beyond -- the general public will continue to discover her new music.

To be honest of course it is nice she gets more fans and more views but I want to hear new music! Not only when I play it in my cdplayer or on Spotify but live!

 

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[smw]

A few easy ways to help the album and be the best Celine Dion fans ever:

 

-go and thumbs up the positive reviews on iTunes and thumbs down the negative ones

-make posts on social media about Celine’s Number One album with #CelineDion and maybe throw in a few other hashtags to get attention – like #beyonce #mariahcarey #billboard #taylorswift #billieilish #whitneyhouston #macysparade #courage #christmas

-ever wanted to post a video about Celine on YouTube? Now’s the time!

 

Edited November 28, 2019 at 12:16 AM by smw

[sarit_celine]

She is still in top 10 in the World-wide itunes albums chart, nice

 

Now for a reality check.

 

No fan should be surprised or disappointed with the charts really, it has been that way

for years. Don't confuse the buzz she creates around her fashion stuff (Which it's quite nice, when

she is not showing off with some dead animals clothes...)

to her artistic career where casual fans and new discovers

of her, won't actually buy/stream her music.

 

I don't think anyone from her team is surprised either, that album is going down quickly in important charts

and why that it will affect Celine as for to record or not to record more albums, if from day one

they aimed to get a #1 spot on Billboard and that's all?

 

All we cared was to hear her singing some gems from the new album,

but she went for big-exposure shows in the USA

and didn't sing her new songs, she had interviews and was under embargo

that avoided her from speaking about the new album in 6 long years.

 

I'm not disappointed with the charts, because that's no different from what happened with her albums

during the last years (And yes, LV jail has to do with what we see from her nowadays!)

I'm disappointed of the fiasco of letting fans to hear only one or two new songs

from the new album during 2 months of this Tour,

and having no vision that holds the show together.

 

And of course, the robbery in daylight with tickets that prevent

from so many fans to enjoy her, simply to enjoy her as the fans they are of her, for decades.

 

At this point, I wish she will show respect to her new album and be proud of it.

That will be a nice new start.

[yoyoma]

This is how it should be executed

https://www.accessonline.com/videos/shania-twain-confirms-that-shes-teaming-up-with-harry-styles-were-going-to-collaborate-exclusive

 

Celine need to collaborate with younger audience. I dont understand why she just don't duet with a relevant srtist. I am sure many artist dying to have duet with her.

Panic at the disco lead singer even says he wants to duet with celine

[fred]

I really hope there will be a wave of "revival" for Courage sometime in the following months.

 

However I do fear that they are only waiting to release yet another best of compilation and empathize even more on "Céline the 90ies hit singer".

 

Don't you think Sony has something planned for a long term promotion ? 😘

After all, why are they releasing the vinyl album on February 2020 ? 😋 maybe we could have a new edition of the album (including "(Play Me Like A) Love Song")...

[sarit_celine]

This is how it should be executed

https://www.accesson...orate-exclusive

 

Celine need to collaborate with younger audience. I dont understand why she just don't duet with a relevant srtist. I am sure many artist dying to have duet with her.

Panic at the disco lead singer even says he wants to duet with celine

 

No please, no duets, all her last duets were poor quailty and I never could fully listen to them.

Forgettable songs and also to that I call waste of talent.

 

Only if they will create for her duets on the same level as TH or IYA were - then I will be more than happy with that.

[scielle]

-Remember: ten steams on Spotify equals 1 album sale!

 

That's not correct.

 

1,250 streams on Spotify = 1 album sale (if you have Spotify premium, or any other paid / subscription service)

3,750 streams on Spotify = 1 album sale (if free / ad-supported, audio or video)

 

The 10 songs = 1 album conversion applies to paid song downloads (iTunes or Amazon mp3 purchases)

Edited November 28, 2019 at 12:15 AM by scielle

[fred]

Oh yea! I wanted Céline to team up with Harry earlier! (What's up with Shania re-entering the scene btw? Thought she was sliding into history.)

 

I would like her to work with Kygo too, especially now that Guetta really wasn't able to deliver.

 

This is how it should be executed

https://www.accessonline.com/videos/shania-twain-confirms-that-shes-teaming-up-with-harry-styles-were-going-to-collaborate-exclusive

 

Celine need to collaborate with younger audience. I dont understand why she just don't duet with a relevant srtist. I am sure many artist dying to have duet with her.

Panic at the disco lead singer even says he wants to duet with celine

[smw]

That's not correct.

 

1,250 streams on Spotify = 1 album sale (if you have Spotify premium, or any other paid / subscription service)

3,750 streams on Spotify = 1 album sale (if free / ad-supported, audio or video)

 

The 10 songs = 1 album conversion applies to paid song downloads (iTunes or Amazon mp3 purchases)

 

Thanks!! Edited my post.

[fred]

Making that difference between paid and ad-supported listenings on Spotify is a disgrace! The ads are supposed to pay for it all. If anything the ad listening crowd should be counted as stronger listenings since they have to come up to those numbers while enduring commercials!

 

 

 

That's not correct.

 

1,250 streams on Spotify = 1 album sale (if you have Spotify premium, or any other paid / subscription service)

3,750 streams on Spotify = 1 album sale (if free / ad-supported, audio or video)

 

The 10 songs = 1 album conversion applies to paid song downloads (iTunes or Amazon mp3 purchases)

Edited November 28, 2019 at 12:37 AM by fred

[superstar85ca]

There are too many charts for me to keep track of. But all I can say is when I Google "Celine Dion" I get all results saying "celine scores a number 1 album with Courage" that's good enough for me and more than I could have hoped for at this time especially considering the long career she has had. I'm not going to get upset over every chart. The fact is that many of the headlines are all in Celines favour. And whether she is number 1 for only a week, it's still a number 1 album! Edited November 28, 2019 at 12:31 AM by superstar85ca

[scielle]

Making that differnce between paid and ad-supported listening on Spotify is a disgrace! The ads are supposed to pay for it all. If anything the ad listening crowd should be counted as stronger listeninga since they have to come up to those numbers while enduring commercials!

 

Well, paid/ subscription it's supposed to measure willingness to actually spend money, and so more reflective of real, active demand.

Also, subscription services are fully interactive, i.e. they allow for unlimited replays, skips, search, etc. That's an indication of active demand, or putting your $ where the mouth is, so to speak.

 

Free services are intentionally limited.

They're cheaper licenses for the platforms; i.e. Amazon, for example, pays a label much less for the limited catalog and functionality on its free tier.

The idea is that the free tiers are the gateway drug that's only there to entice people enough to convert to paid (which is the only part of this business that's long-term sustainable). If they offer too much functionality on these free tiers, there's no incentive for people to convert to paid users (and there's not enough in the ad-supported business for these platforms to survive, pay the labels, and pay the artists).

And given that they're limited, many of the free tiers don't include the latest releases (for e.g. Amazon Prime Music is limited to including x new albums and y new songs per year, as defined in the contract between Amazon and the label), and given that not the full catalog is available and your ability to make playlists, repeat, etc. is limited, they're not a true reflection of active demand.

[Fanxiaoqiang]

On a happier note: it's a delight when her new songs enter the list of her most popular songs on Spotify. So nice to see those old hits make room for her newer material (which that translated into setlists).

 

Lovers Never Die have most probably made its climb thanks to ot being included in some playlists. Hope more songs from Courage are too!

 

thanks a lot for this picture

can you update everyday I can't see this in China

[Bruno Portugal]

https://blitz.pt/principal/update/2019-11-26-Xutos--Pontapes-lideram-Top-Nacional

 

Courage album is #5 in Portugal!

It's her highest entrance in years.

 

[Xpresso]

The Album is already dead, it was just an one-week-success. Let's have its funeral and wait for the next french album that will sell much better.

She still outsold all artists on Mediatraffic global sales chart with 254,000 units sold. More than her contemporaries like Madonna, Andrea, Cher, Bruce, etc. on their release week. Courage is on par with Pink's last album which sold 257,000 units worldwide in week 1.

Madonna's last album was out of Billboard Top 200 after 3 weeks (and she promoted more than Celine did). So that's what happens to all veteran acts due to lack of streaming. Why is that so hard to understand? That's the new reality.

Edited November 28, 2019 at 01:27 AM by Xpresso

[scielle]

Madonna's last album was out of Billboard Top 200 after 3 weeks (and she promoted more than Celine did). So that's what happens to all veteran acts due to lack of streaming. Why is that so hard to understand? That's the new reality.

 

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but believe Madonna has been playing almost exclusively new material on this tour. And that (along with her lateness, granted) is what has a lot of people complaining about the tour. Because guess what - most want to hear the hits.

 

So acts like Madonna, or Celine, just can't win.

[LukeD]

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but believe Madonna has been playing almost exclusively new material on this tour. And that (along with her lateness, granted) is what has a lot of people complaining about the tour. Because guess what - most want to hear the hits.

 

So acts like Madonna, or Celine, just can't win.

I kindly disagree. I think Celine can win. I am not sure what Madonna has done, but Celine has considerably fewer hits than her. She can definitely include new songs to the tour and at the same time sing all of her classics. I never heard anyone complain back in 2008 when Celine sang half the Taking Chances album in the TCWT. She treated these songs with love and respect. Eyes On My, My Love, Alone were all stand-out performances. A World To Believe In, A Song For You received special treatment in certain concerts as well. Fade Away and Shadow Of Love were always there, despite nobody knowing these songs. They were not singles.

 

My point is if Celine did it then, selling out shows all around the globe, then she can do the same now. It is not as if she has had hit singles since 2009 that need to be performed.

Edited November 28, 2019 at 01:46 AM by LukeD

[scielle]

I kindly disagree. I think Celine can win. I am not sure what Madonna has done, but Celine has considerably fewer hits than her. She can definitely include new songs to the tour and at the same time sing all of her classics. I never heard anyone complain back in 2008 when Celine sang half the Taking Chances album in the TCWT. She treated these songs with love and respect. Eyes On My, My Love, Alone were all stand-out performances. A World To Believe In, A Song For You received special treatment in certain concerts as well. Fade Away and Shadow Of Love were always there, despite nobody knowing these songs. They were not singles.

 

My point is if Celine did it then, selling out shows all around the globe, then she can do the same now. It is not as if she has had hit singles since 2009 that need to be performed.

 

Agreed, but my point was in reference to the album. That performing it live doesn't necessarily equate to improved sales or streams.

[Xpresso]

Courage debuts at #4 in Austria. Edited November 28, 2019 at 01:59 AM by Xpresso

[fred]

Ironically I choose not to attend the TC tour coz I then thought it was too much of the same old same old (that + too high lipping rate).

 

But in hindsight and seeing what the Courage tour been like so far the TC tour was quite innovative! The steps backwards are so sad to notice. This time there's a lot of steps backwards with the tour setlisr - and a huge amount of steps forward (in a very welcome direction) with the album. So weird it doesn't go hand in hand!

 

I kindly disagree. I think Celine can win. I am not sure what Madonna has done, but Celine has considerably fewer hits than her. She can definitely include new songs to the tour and at the same time sing all of her classics. I never heard anyone complain back in 2008 when Celine sang half the Taking Chances album in the TCWT. She treated these songs with love and respect. Eyes On My, My Love, Alone were all stand-out performances. A World To Believe In, A Song For You received special treatment in certain concerts as well. Fade Away and Shadow Of Love were always there, despite nobody knowing these songs. They were not singles.

 

My point is if Celine did it then, selling out shows all around the globe, then she can do the same now. It is not as if she has had hit singles since 2009 that need to be performed.

Edited November 28, 2019 at 02:28 AM by fred

[smw]

Courage is currently number 26 on US iTunes. It'll be interesting to see if it jumps higher after the appearance in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. We shall see!

 

& I hope they announce her as having the #1 album in the US -- so we get to hear that at least once!

Edited November 28, 2019 at 02:38 AM by smw

[fred]

Glad you found it interesting! 👍

 

I wont post it daily since not much happens on a daily basis. Will try to remember to post it if I see a difference in Courage songs though. ☺

 

 

(Since you seem interested I can mention the activity the last couple of weeks if I remember correctly: MHWGO and BYLM has switched places for some reason during the last days. ABM has made quite a big drop and TPOL made a jump upwards the last couple of weeks. Happy Xmas has risen fast to its current position from being at the bottom last week. It is almost always somewhere in the top during the Christmas season then drops off the list (if I am not mistaken O Holy Night use to be there as well). It's probably on many Christmas compilations and Christmas playlists, so that's why. Ashes have been very high in the list for quite some time (third I believe it was), so it's a shame it's not in this tour.)

 

 

 

thanks a lot for this picture

can you update everyday I can't see this in China

[marc-02]

[marc-02]

[smw]

If y’all have Instagram — go to the Rolling Stone account and post nice comments about Celine in the post they made yesterday.

[jpatdeleon09]

Rolling stones is sh*t. Why TF they picked that photo? There’s so many great photos with the new hairstyle. Why this? They are all Sh*t!

 

They should put sh*t in their logo. It fits well.

Edited November 28, 2019 at 05:44 AM by jpatdeleon09