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The orchestration for Perfect goodbye is just the closest to what I dreamt for. It is so haunting and cinematic, mysterious while still discreet. My only snag would be on some parts where she sounds a bit clogged/too deep but even that contributes to the magic. that makes the whole thing so singular, deep and theatrical. Never heard such a raw emotion in her voice in English really.

 

I wish that even the people who won’t like this album will be able to recognize that still, it is her best material to date in English. 😁 I quite have a low appreciation of her catalog so it is not such a masterpiece but it s finally getting good and it s the first time ever that yes she got out of her confort zone in some way.

 

I love that the supposed Play me like a love song is not here. She clearly got ride of all her Signature orchestral generic ballad. There s not even one. The closest to her old material may be the song Courage.

 

I have some critics like the whole thing still sounds a bit too predictable, songs remains like... too clean. I miss time, music, impro, a little bit a of crazyness.

 

It s the album where her voice is the most free also. I love that.

 

I mean. FINALLY. Like FINALLY ! Well done Celine.

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The orchestration for Perfect goodbye is just the closest to what I dreamt for. It is so haunting and cinematic, mysterious while still discreet. My only snag would be on some parts where she sounds a bit clogged/too deep but even that contributes to the magic. that makes the whole thing so singular, deep and theatrical. Never heard such a raw emotion in her voice in English really.

 

I wish that even the people who won't like this album will be able to recognize that still, it is her best material to date in English. �� I quite have a low appreciation of her catalog so it is not such a masterpiece but it s finally getting good and it s the first time ever that yes she got out of her confort zone in some way.

 

I love that the supposed Play me like a love song is not hear. She clearly got ride of all her Signature orchestral generic ballad. There s not even one. The closest to her old material may be the song Courage.

 

I mean. FINALLY. Like FINALLY ! Well done Celine.

 

Perfect Goodbye is beautiful, nothing better than a simple piano ballad, kind of reminders of Adele's Someone Like You...I am in love with Perfect Goodbye and I agree with your comments regarding it but not about Play Me Like A Love Song, it would have fit the album so well :P

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'Love Doesn't Ask Why, it speaks from the heart.....'
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I just can't get over Look At Us Now. It's just amazing! :wub:

 

"Back to back we sleep on separate sides..." - I love this line. I've had it stuck in my head for two days now. I love this deep singing.

 

I also love this line "Hard to look at pictures on the wall..." I love the way she sings "wall".

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Perfect Goodbye is beautiful, noting better than a simple piano ballad, kind of reminders of Adele's Someone Like You...I am in love with Perfect Goodbye and I agree with your comments regarding it but not about Play Me Like A Love Song, it would have fit the album so well :P

 

Hum not really. Someone like you is a good song. But perfect goodbye is way more cinematic and I would say, weirder which is good. It has this Lynch or Burton feeling. Can t compare both in my opinion.

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I just can't get over Look At Us Now. It's just amazing! :wub:

 

"Back to back we sleep on separate sides..." - I love this line. I've had it stuck in my head for two days now. I love this deep singing.

 

I also love this line "Hard to look at pictures on the wall..." The way she sings "wall" is just so good. ^_^

 

I think it could be a huge hit and I really want it to be the next single. Please. It stucks on my mind, always. I can't even listen to the other songs ahah (but I didn't add the songs on my itunes, so I have to open seperate flles to listen to the songs, like this I will still be happy to be on the 15th and listen to the whole album, song after song).

 

And we know that Céline probably loves this song also as she sang it a bit during the Carpool karaoke..... :wub:

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Best of all has really grown on me after a few listens - I like the ending a lot better then the beginning of the song if that makes sense lol - with the line “it’s not just my heart you have my whole damn world”.... love that line!
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Overall, I consider this her best album since Taking Chances (including the french ones) :wub: . Although I kinda liked Sans Attendre and EUS, only parts of them were modern. Courage, on the other hand, is full of cool modern songs. Definitely a step into the right direction :clap: . I guess my favorites are Change My Mind, Nobody's Watching, and Heart of Glass. However, I haven't heard any bonus tracks besides Heart of Glass yet, so maybe it will change. I also like the cover and CD style.

 

What I don't like is Celine's pronunciation. It is not only about her accent, but the way she pronounces words. I would call it "lazy pronunciation", when she sounds as if she has a chewing gum while singing, and "swallows" some words. To be honest, this irritates me :sick: This is especially noticeable in Sia's songs. I wonder if the reason for that was Celine trying to imitate Sia's accent and style.

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I think it could be A HUGE HIT and I really want it to be the next single. PLEASE. It stucks on my mind, always. I can't even listen to the other songs ahah (but I didn't add the songs on my itunes, so I have to open seperate flles to listen to the songs, like this I will still be happy to be on the 15th and listen to the whole album, song after song).

 

And we know that Céline probably loves this song also as she sang it a bit during the Carpool karaoke..... :wub:

 

The song is just so damn catchy. I think it would be a great single! My only "complaint" is that I wish it was longer.

 

I fell asleep with this song in my mind yesterday. So I woke up and just had to listen to it. :clap:

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This team of hers and Sony suck. A leak happened it is what it is, they should’ve got the album release date moved up. Tonight in Detroit is her last show until Montreal in a couple weeks; release the damn album lol.
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Love this album already so much!

 

I think my very favorite song til now is "The Hard Way". Her voice and the music are a perfect blending. And her voice is crystal clear!Also Change My Mind is one of my favorites which I didn't expect because I don't like LP so much,.

And I LOVE The Perfect Goodbye, wow, so different and mysterious. The piano sounds if it was recorded in a big space like a church and reminds me a little of the organ part in the soundtrack from the movie Interstellar.

 

But I love every single song on the album and some songs are getting better to me everyday!

Only song I don't like so much is Say Yes. It has really beautiful lyrics, but in my opinion the instrumental/melody is very boring..

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The Chase has really grown on me. I actually love it now. :wub:

 

I particularly love the last verse/chorus of the song.

 

"So stay

Cause there’s something about the chase

That’s got you running through my mind all day

And I can’t keep up

Cause I’m still reveling in the rush

 

I wish you, I wish you’d stay

I might run, but won’t walk away

You keep making my heart race

Till I can’t keep

I’ll be reveling in the rush of the chase

 

I wish you’d stay

Oh stay, oh stay

Stay

I wish you, I wish you would"

 

This song could have been called "Stay" though, lol.

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This team of hers and Sony suck. A leak happened it is what it is, they should’ve got the album release date moved up. Tonight in Detroit is her last show until Montreal in a couple weeks; release the damn album lol.

 

If you think a cruise ship like Sony can do a 180 turn in 24 hours and totally revamp a marketing plan that’s been in the works for months - most of which is dependent on third parties, by the way - think again.

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Am I the only one being able to say I like this thing but it s not that great or the contrary, because besides my own taste I recognize the efforts, the artistry, the choices, some technical aspect about the whole production, mixing etc ???

 

Can someone say here I prefer A new day has come or Taking chances but the album Courage is certainly her best/most/adventurous material to date because of the production because of the direction, because of the coherence because she got out of her confort zone for the first time ever and for also the first time ever it s not just a talk, because there s no covers, because she clearly decided to not put even one generic orchestral ballad while she must have received a lot but preferred to express her loss with songs such as Perfect goodby. She got courage and the result is good.

 

I feel like sometimes I’m the only one to think this way or to dissociate my own Tastes to what I think is more objective. And say I love it but this is s***. I hate it but this is good. Understand what I mean ?

 

I can’t discuss the fact that people love A new day has come or Taking chances better by their own taste and feelings. But in term of artistry and what said above I have difficulties to accept that some people think A new day has come or Taking chances are better.

 

Am I the only one also to sometimes place the approach above the final result ? Like the fact that her signature songs did not make the final cut just make me love this album. And the fact that they put I surrender next to At last, Rain Tax, ten days super love and Nature boy makes me hate A new days has come because the approach stinks commercial prostitution and compromise over artistry and guts ?

 

Don t know 😁😏

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If you think a cruise ship like Sony can do a 180 turn in 24 hours and totally revamp a marketing plan that’s been in the works for months - most of which is dependent on third parties, by the way - think again.

 

Yeah Sony a cruise ship; maybe the Titanic. Anything but smooth with them. And let’s see what if any strong “marketing plan” they had. They never put forth much effort to promote Celine, and I don’t see that changing, leak or not.

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The people in here who are playing and replaying the leaks, are you sure that in 10 days from now you'll still have the same passion of hitting the repeat button endlessly on the streaming platforms on the 15th as you are doing now?

 

If you end up being bored and only stream the songs once in a while on the streaming platforms it really does nothing for Celine or the album itself.

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Her vocals on this whole album are painful to listen to, even vs. Encore Un Soir from a couple years ago.
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Her vocals on this whole album are painful to listen to, even vs. Encore Un Soir from a couple years ago.

 

:confused:

 

Then I must LOVE the pain.

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Her vocals on this whole album are painful to listen to, even vs. Encore Un Soir from a couple years ago.

 

😆 haha

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Love this album already so much!

 

I think my very favorite song til now is "The Hard Way". Her voice and the music are a perfect blending. And her voice is crystal clear!Also Change My Mind is one of my favorites which I didn't expect because I don't like LP so much,.

And I LOVE The Perfect Goodbye, wow, so different and mysterious. The piano sounds if it was recorded in a big space like a church and reminds me a little of the organ part in the soundtrack from the movie Interstellar.

 

But I love every single song on the album and some songs are getting better to me everyday!

Only song I don't like so much is Say Yes. It has really beautiful lyrics, but in my opinion the instrumental/melody is very boring..

 

I think “Say Yes” is beautiful. Sentimental. It doesn’t need bombast or to be over produced. Simple melody, haunting instrumentation which allows the lyrics to really shine.

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Matthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall Inn

Stonewall Sensation - Season 15

Originally written and performed by Coldplay

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Am I the only one being able to say I like this thing but it s not that great or the contrary, because besides my own taste I recognize the efforts, the artistry, the choices, some technical aspect about the whole production, mixing etc ???

 

Can someone say here I prefer A new day has come or Taking chances but the album Courage is certainly her best/most/adventurous material to date because of the production because of the direction, because of the coherence because she got out of her confort zone for the first time ever and for also the first time ever it s not just a talk, because there s no covers, because she clearly decided to not put even one generic orchestral ballad while she must have received a lot but preferred to express her loss with songs such as Perfect goodby. She got courage and the result is good.

 

I feel like sometimes I’m the only one to think this way or to dissociate my own Tastes to what I think is more objective. And say I love it but this is s***. I hate it but this is good. Understand what I mean ?

 

I can’t discuss the fact that people love A new day has come or Taking chances better by their own taste and feelings. But in term of artistry and what said above I have difficulties to accept that some people think A new day has come or Taking chances are better.

 

Am I the only one also to sometimes place the approach above the final result ? Like the fact that her signature songs did not make the final cut just make me love this album. And the fact that they put I surrender next to At last, Rain Tax, ten days super love and Nature boy makes me hate A new days has come because the approach stinks commercial prostitution and compromise over artistry and guts ?

 

Don t know 😁😏

 

Carl Wilson? Is that you? LOL

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Matthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall Inn

Stonewall Sensation - Season 15

Originally written and performed by Coldplay

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After listening to the album a few times now I can confirm that for me FOMO does not belong on the album. It should have been a "surprise release" just like what they did for "Recovering". Edited by A new day...
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This song is her English "Ma Force".

 

True enough and I love it!!

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Yeah Sony a cruise ship; maybe the Titanic. Anything but smooth with them. And let’s see what if any strong “marketing plan” they had. They never put forth much effort to promote Celine, and I don’t see that changing, leak or not.

 

Their marketing blitz for Celine up until after ANDHC was stellar. Don’t say they never did anything right by Celine, because she was ALL. OVER. THE. PLACE. She would be on Rosie O’Donnel’s Show and Jay Leno multiple times a year throughout the 90s. She goes down in history as the one person who made the most appearances on The Oprah Winfrey Show. The print ads in magazines and in store posters were more than plentiful. CBS TV specials galore. She was well taken care of in her prime, when it was most important to establish her to the masses. Which is what Sony does now for their most popular and current top 40 artists.

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Matthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall Inn

Stonewall Sensation - Season 15

Originally written and performed by Coldplay

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I think “Say Yes” is beautiful. Sentimental. It doesn’t need bombast or to be over produced. Simple melody, haunting instrumentation which allows the lyrics to really shine.

Yes beautiful. :wub: She’s asking why can’t she say yes to love again. Well that’s how I see it. :)

In my top 3 of this amazing album!

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I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
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Their marketing blitz for Celine up until after ANDHC was stellar. Don’t say they never did anything right by Celine, because she was ALL. OVER. THE. PLACE. She would be on Rosie O’Donnel’s Show and Jay Leno multiple times a year throughout the 90s. She goes down in history as the one person who made the most appearances on The Oprah Winfrey Show. The print ads in magazines and in store posters were more than plentiful. CBS TV specials galore. She was well taken care of in her prime, when it was most important to establish her to the masses. Which is what Sony does now for their most popular and current top 40 artists.

 

I thought that was a given, obviously; I don’t mean never but never then the last decades or at least decade and a half. Hence my ‘titanic’ reference; because arguably after the 90s they haven’t done s***, she’s been selling her work based on her name.

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After listening to the album a few times now I can confirm that for me FOMO does not belong on the album. It should have been a "surprise release" just like what they did for "Recovering".

 

Its true it doesn’t fit the melody of the rest of the album.... but its the first song, she’s flying on her own now.... its like a good bye to her previous repertoire.... she’s taking new directions...

 

Not ready to make a full review yet.... its so different than what we are used to from Celine.... it still needs to sink in

 

 

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The people in here who are playing and replaying the leaks, are you sure that in 10 days from now you'll still have the same passion of hitting the repeat button endlessly on the streaming platforms on the 15th as you are doing now?

 

If you end up being bored and only stream the songs once in a while on the streaming platforms it really does nothing for Celine or the album itself.

 

As I said, I have to open separately files to listen to the songs. So usually (when for example I walk or when I'm on my bike like today) I listen to my best of Céline on iTunes which include more than 130 songs (including 3 times Courage, Imperfections and Lying down, as I want to hear them more than the others ahahah).

 

From the 15th of November, I will listen ONLY the whole album (maybe the only song I will sometimes skip will be Flying on my own ahah), on repeat, always, just like I do for my Céline's best of.

 

So for me at least it won't change. But I don't know if it counts on iTunes? When we download/buy a song, it doesn't matter how many times we listen to it, or?... I don't know how it works.

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After listening to the album a few times now I can confirm that for me FOMO does not belong on the album. It should have been a "surprise release" just like what they did for "Recovering".

 

I think it fits the album, but it's a little weird as the opening song. The track-listing for this album seems so random. It might have worked better if they re-arranged the order of the songs.

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