"Courage" album - Official Topic

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

LYHD is along side Super Love as two of her worst songs ever. I mean, how can you call either of those anything other than a mess and yet sh*t on FOMO... it makes no sense to me

 

I actually like Superlove. The lyrics make sense. “How am I gonna stop it if I want to give it all to love” is just WTF?

[AdrienneM]

 

 

I actually like Superlove. The lyrics make sense. “How am I gonna stop it if I want to give it all to love” is just WTF?

 

The lyrics:

“You and me we got a super love

Never gonna give give it up

It's the kind of sweet dreams are made of

I'm not afraid of, our super love”

 

Make me genuinely ill

[Céline RO]

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The lyrics:

"You and me we got a super love

Never gonna give give it up

It's the kind of sweet dreams are made of

I'm not afraid of, our super love"

 

Make me genuinely ill

 

And the melody is even worse...

[Javito]

Lol it’s interesting how greatly different are tastes among fans, and that’s why I’m happy Celine has a such vast discography to answer all tastes.

 

In my case, I don’t see anything wrong with the melody of Superlove that doesn’t has, for example, Imperfections, which is very, very simple. However, Superlove ia full of rich production in many different sounds, vocals and layerings, and also thanks to the Pro Tools used back then. It’s a fun light song, and yet so well produced. I super love it

[AdrienneM]

Super Love has one of the worst productions *ever*. It sounds so cheap and it was outdated even for the early 2000s, couple that with the corny lyrics and you have the worst song on ANDHC by miles.. i mean the vocals even sound horrid compared to other songs on the ANDHC album Edited October 14, 2019 at 01:53 PM by AdrienneM

[Javito]

And I suppose that’s because you say so, as always?

 

Worst production ever is what they did with The Show Must Go On, for example, and not Superlove. You need to learn to differentiate what the term *production* is. And no, there’s nothing wrong with her vocals in that song, absolutely nothing... Not because you don’t like a song and find it corny does that mean it’s badly produced

Edited October 14, 2019 at 01:56 PM by Javito

[Céline RO]

And I suppose that's because you say so, as always?

 

Worst production ever is what they did with The Show Must Go On, for example, and not Superlove. You need to learn to differentiate what the term *production* is. Not because you don't like a song and find it corny does that mean it's badly produced : :

 

They should have never released that version of “The Show Must Go On”!

[AdrienneM]

And I suppose that’s because you say so, as always?

 

Worst production ever is what they did with The Show Must Go On, for example, and not Superlove. You need to learn to differentiate what the term *production* is. And no, there’s nothing wrong with her vocals in that song, absolutely nothing... Not because you don’t like a song and find it corny does that mean it’s badly produced

 

And you need to learn what “one of” means. Of Course TSMGO was worse, it is THE worst. But Super Love is chronic 2000s disaster at its finest. Her vocals sound thin and weird where as every other track its the opposite. Bad lyrics, weird layering and unnecessary synths, poor quality of the actual sound and then add a weird tempo and you have super love... still not as bad as her worst recorded vocals with terrible effects and a horrible instrumental like TSMGO tho

[Chantemoi]

 

 

LYHD is along side Super Love as two of her worst songs ever. I mean, how can you call either of those anything other than a mess and yet sh*t on FOMO... it makes no sense to me

 

We could compile Collectors’s Edition Volumes 2, 3 and 4 with heaps of dated, cliché songs from her catelogue, but the point is we are Céline Dion fans — so at some point, we have bopped our heads to some ridiculous nonsense because she is our Queen and we are subject to her whims. We should be used to this.

 

So when people rip on FOMO, I have to wonder: are they being selectively critical? Or just ignoring the past 4 decades of her career? We will all have songs we skip. And that’s okay!!!

[CelinesDIVO5]

Super Love has one of the worst productions *ever*. It sounds so cheap and it was outdated even for the early 2000s, couple that with the corny lyrics and you have the worst song on ANDHC by miles.. i mean the vocals even sound horrid compared to other songs on the ANDHC album

 

Worse than Rain, Tax? Lol

[Javito]

Or even worse than Declaration Of Love, queen of heavy fillers, corny lyrics and worst music? And that’s on the so ever venerated, supreme, FIY album

 

Horses for all courses, guys

[chinit0]

I love superlove. It's one of the hip songs for me back then.

[agentwigs]

I love Declaration of Love. At the time, it was the song I always played to people who thought Céline was boring.

[AdrienneM]

Or even worse than Declaration Of Love, queen of heavy fillers, corny lyrics and worst music? And that’s on the so ever venerated, supreme, FIY album

 

Horses for all courses, guys

 

At least DOL had vocals

[Alice]

How can you discuss bad lyrics and not mention I'm Alive? It's so stupid!

 

You've set my heart on fire

Filled me with love

Made me a woman on clouds above

 

WTF?!

[Javito]

 

 

At least DOL had vocals

 

Because Superlove wasn’t made to show off her vocals!!!?!

 

Ah, so that’s the problem you have... if at this stage you have not understood that not ALL Celine Dion songs have to have great vocals, loud screaming and belting till her heart goes out, you have understood nothing

 

That’s precisely the pleasure of songs like Superlove, If Walls Could Talk or Did You Give Enough Love: they don’t need big vocals to be precious and mark the difference from the rest.

Edited October 14, 2019 at 03:08 PM by Javito

[AdrienneM]

 

 

Ah, so that’s the problem you have... if at this stage you have not understood that not ALL Celine Dion songs have to have great vocals, loud screaming and belting till her heart goes out, you have understood nothing

 

That’s precisely the pleasure of songs like Superlove, If Walls Could Talk or Did You Give Enough Love: they don’t need big vocals to be precious and mark the difference from the rest.

 

The pleasure of the IWCT and DYGEL... Superlove is in the top worst Celine songs, if it wasnt on ANDHC thats how you would feel but since as an album its above criticism in your eyes its a great song. My favourite album is FIY, doesnt mean its not above criticism in my eyes, however i guess not all of us have objectiveness within us

Edited October 14, 2019 at 03:09 PM by AdrienneM

[Javito]

I didn’t say it’s a *great* song, but definitely it’s not one of her “worst” songs ever

 

It’s a light song and composed in a fun way, nothing too serious or complicated. This is not made to be the overdrama in All By Myself or I Surrender (also in ANDHC btw), but to simply enjoy the fast tempo musically along with the lyrics. That’s what you fail to understand and cannot enjoy, but others do

[Xpresso]

How about getting back to Super Courage!?

[scielle]

How can you discuss bad lyrics and not mention I'm Alive? It's so stupid!

 

You've set my heart on fire

Filled me with love

Made me a woman on clouds above

 

WTF?!

 

Thank you!

I’ve been saying so for years and always got scolded. Makes me cringe every time.

I appreciate the sentiment of that song, but the lyrics...ouch.

[fred]

Soon we'll see that those songs without credited creators soon have "Pepe Munoz" written under each of them...

 

If Liz wasn't talented, she wouldn't be under Dave's management in the first place, and she certainly wouldn't have landed so many songs on Celine's album. "Friends" don't necessarily get songs on a Celine album...

[Alice]

Thank you!

I've been saying so for years and always got scolded. Makes me cringe every time.

I appreciate the sentiment of that song, but the lyrics...ouch.

Thank YOU!

 

It is unclear whether she addresses a God or a lover! Come on!

[Alice]

PS. We got off-topic.

 

 

Don't we all agree that the three new songs make sense both in terms of the lyrics and melody?

[fred]

A lot of people here can't handle that and get into "mean hero mode" and attack/"defend".

 

I think FOMO is ok, it's a fun tune. But it could be a whole lot more - and more current. And could all have been saved production wise. I am not saying it's badly produced, just saying it could have stepped up a notch. It doesn't have "single material" written on it.

 

The others (LD, I, C) are very fine. Quite well produced. But neither has "single material" written on them either…. It's a shame, since they have actually made efforts promo wise this time. But songs that aren't good enough doesn't fly on their own no matter how much exposure they get, in the end people must "crave" for them and want to listen again and again - we fans do that but we are a tiny bit bias. And just because we like a song doesn't mean it can actually do well against singles from other artists.

 

All tracks we've heard so far are very good, when it comes to album material. But if they plan to release further singles I really hope they have something extra up their sleeves.

 

And I find interesting fans are now opening up about FOMO saying without objections that they don't like the song that much. Well I didn't like it much from the start. Why did you take so long to speak up? Guys, not because it's her first single in years, you have to swallow it like a pill and say you love it. Be sincere. Be free to speak up your mind about what you like and what you don't. The first impression is usually the most sincere.

[fred]

Hey Javy... seriously?

 

If he wants to do that let him. Don't think he offends anyone or anything in doing so. I am more amazed at the self diciplin he must have!

 

Oh dear... seriously??? You must be joking. Nobody forces you to listen the album in full (actually nobody forces you to buy a whole album today).

 

Well, just split the album in 10 songs and save the remaining 10 songs for the next years, when maybe there's no new music from Celine in another 6 long years. Maybe you'll need them then, and then you can build your one next Celine English album under your convenience, form and wishes...

 

Some people, really...

[joaofilho]

Celine fans let's get together, let's make a big effort and for Imperfections video to reach 10 million views.

Let's watch it every day and replay it, let's also listen to the song on spotify as many times as possible.

[Javito]

Hey Javy... seriously?

 

If he wants to do that let him. Don't think he offends anyone or anything in doing so. I am more amazed at the self diciplin he must have!

 

I didn't find his methods offending, I just said it was shocking. All comments and fans so far have been welcoming precisely the fact that we're going back to the 16-tracks albums of he past, and the 4 additional tracks in the Deluxe edition was even more welcomed and exciting. So to find that opinion was surprising to me. It must be the only person finding we're getting "too many songs" in a 20 track deluxe album, when all fans in the planet have been craving for new English albums every single day 24/7 since 2015 (myself included of course). But each one his own, all is good with the way each individual wants to listen an album!

Edited October 14, 2019 at 05:30 PM by Javito

[AdrienneM]

 

 

I didn't find his methods offending, I just said it was shocking. All comments and fans so far have been welcoming precisely the fact that we're going back to the 16-tracks albums of he past, and the 4 additional tracks in the Deluxe edition was even more welcomed and exciting. So to find that opinion was surprising to me. It must be the only person finding we're getting "too many songs" in a 20 track deluxe album, when all fans in the planet have been craving for new English albums every single day 24/7 since 2015 (myself included of course). But each one his own, all is good with the way each individual wants to listen an album!

 

He doesnt think its too many for us all, he finds it too many/ too overwhelming for him to sit and listen to, he even said hes glad we all got the number of tracks we wanted. I think you misinterpreted what he was trying to say.

[Javito]

He doesnt think its too many for us all, he finds it too many/ too overwhelming for him to sit and listen to, he even said hes glad we all got the number of tracks we wanted. I think you misinterpreted what he was trying to say.

 

I perfectly know what he said. I know it was his own opinion and what I said was clearly in reply to his post. Stop it now, it was enough of your lecturing for today.

[AdrienneM]

 

 

I perfectly know what he said. I know it was his own opinion and what I said was clearly in reply to his post. Stop it now, it was enough of your lecturing for today.

 

You said he was the only person who thinks 20 songs is too much and go on to do your “we’ve been waiting since 2015” spiel, when thats not what he was implying at all. Maybe accept for ONCE youve read it wrong or maybe misinterpreted something. Maybe? Just once? No? Okay.