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I'm fairly certain that demo version is a fan-edited version with the instruments removed from the movie version.

Isn’t the story of MHWGO is Céline sang this song on studio in acapella then James Horner made an orchestral instrumentals for the recorded vocals of Céline. I’m sure James said that before...

 

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that this WAS the demo version that Céline sang to initially. There are orchestral elements not included on the final soundtrack. It’s sparse instrumentals would have provided Céline enough of a framework to keep in key and in rhythm, right? After her vocals were added to this arrangement, James would have added more orchestration around them.

 

But now I’m just as in the dark as anyone else...

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I’m curious why they put Amar Haciendo el Amor on the album? Part of me feels very cynical and thinks Sony was pandering and trying to broaden the audience for the album in a commercial sense.

 

Like they wanted to just cash in on the album instead of having a real artistic vision for it....that’s my biggest gripe with the album at large. It has no cohesive sound or vision. It dips into multiple genres...

 

The pieces on their own, I enjoy. But from a wholistic perspective, it is so jumbled.

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I'm curious why they put Amar Haciendo el Amor on the album? Part of me feels very cynical and thinks Sony was pandering and trying to broaden the audience for the album in a commercial sense.

 

Like they wanted to just cash in on the album instead of having a real artistic vision for it....that's my biggest gripe with the album at large. It has no cohesive sound or vision. It dips into multiple genres...

 

The pieces on their own, I enjoy. But from a wholistic perspective, it is so jumbled.

 

That song doesn’t exist on the USA version. Is it on every version of LTAL? Or just in South America?

 

Edit: Never mind. According to Wikipedia, it’s on every version of the album but the USA. We got To Love You More instead as it had not been included on any USA album yet.

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That song doesn’t exist on the USA version. Is it on every version of LTAL? Or just in South America?

 

Edit: Never mind. According to Wikipedia, it’s on every version of the album but the USA. We got To Love You More instead as it had not been included on any USA album yet.

 

But according to Wiki, the European edition has Amar Haciendo el Amor and not TLYM?

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But according to Wiki, the European edition has Amar Haciendo el Amor and not TLYM?

They probably got both

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I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that this WAS the demo version that Céline sang to initially. There are orchestral elements not included on the final soundtrack. It's sparse instrumentals would have provided Céline enough of a framework to keep in key and in rhythm, right? After her vocals were added to this arrangement, James would have added more orchestration around them.

 

But now I'm just as in the dark as anyone else...

 

I think it's possible that the demo that Celine recorded might be similar to what you hear. But to my ears, it sounds like this audio is extracted out of the soundtrack version. The vocals have this "processed remnant" sound which is really common in acapella fan-edit versions on YT. However, I'm not sure where the extra instrumental parts before the climax come from.

http://i.imgur.com/dQ1vYVz.jpg

Mais qui peut dire, qu’il peut vivre sans amour, qui?

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Yes.

 

Thanks buddy

do you know if celine ever sang a German song?

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I can't see this?what's the name of the song?

in any album?

 

“Was bedeute ich dir “ and also “Hand in Hand”

 

 

They are German versions of d’amour ou d’amitie and also “ne partez sans moi”

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"Was bedeute ich dir " and also "Hand in Hand"

 

 

They are German versions of d'amour ou d'amitie and also "ne partez sans moi"

 

Thanks so so very much :wub: :wub: :wub:

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Could we download Live Milwaukee 1999 (great quality) and Live in Providence 1999 (Great quality)?
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The electric guitar in mhwgo is really good and turns the song into a more "serious" song. If I'm not wrong it can be better heard in the all the way dvd video with the alternate sound setting.

The guitar is also what makes Think Twice different from the other Celine's songs and it's what saves the Loved Me Back To Life bad arrangement towards the end of the song.

I agree. I really like listening to or for small details in a song that makes big differences. Really break down the arrangement. Yes autistic in that way. ;)

The guitar adds some "oumph" and "drama" to the song I think. Even if it's only really noticeable for a tiny bit it adds to the overall impression of the song. I wouldn't mind if the guitar got a little more space in the song. As you said it's more noticeable in one of the channels in the 5.1 mix on the All the way DVD/SACD.

Also to compare with Think twice the "no no" bit makes a big difference to the whole song even if it's just a small part.

The strings are great and sort of sets the mood for the melody. Also when we talk about small details the "ding ding" sound is also just great. Small stuff you necessarily want but when you take them out you hear something is missing.

Hard to explain hope you know what I mean. :)

 

This isn't the radio edit but the electric guitar is great in this. This instrumental is just great in general with acoustic guitar and violin.

 

@0:43 is the "ding ding" I mentioned earlier.

 

Btw I wonder is it a different tempo in the radio edit vs the movie version?

Cause I think the movie version feels slower.

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Could we download Live Milwaukee 1999 (great quality) and Live in Providence 1999 (Great quality)?

Sorry I think this is the best quality out there.

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I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that this WAS the demo version that Céline sang to initially. There are orchestral elements not included on the final soundtrack. It's sparse instrumentals would have provided Céline enough of a framework to keep in key and in rhythm, right? After her vocals were added to this arrangement, James would have added more orchestration around them.

 

But now I'm just as in the dark as anyone else...

That's my impression too. Although they tend to exaggerate in interviews. So I think the truth is somewhere in between. I find it hard to believe they only did one take even if they really liked the "audition". I mean why settle for great when they possibly can get even better vocals with more takes. So my theory is they've done more takes but she sings it in style with her "audition" version.

Also demos use to be very simplistic in its arrangement providing enough to get a picture of the song.

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I’m curious why they put Amar Haciendo el Amor on the album? Part of me feels very cynical and thinks Sony was pandering and trying to broaden the audience for the album in a commercial sense.

 

Like they wanted to just cash in on the album instead of having a real artistic vision for it....that’s my biggest gripe with the album at large. It has no cohesive sound or vision. It dips into multiple genres...

 

The pieces on their own, I enjoy. But from a wholistic perspective, it is so jumbled.

 

Everything about that album is formulated to cast a wide net. The only missing demographic is Latinx Americans (and young people, but we won’t go there :giggle:).

 

It amuses/baffles me that it’s omitted from the U.S. version, a nation on the verge of the “Latin music explosion” of 1999. You’d think the suits in Sony’s marketing dept. would have seen that trend coming!

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Thanks buddy

do you know if celine ever sang a German song?

 

 

“Was bedeute ich dir “ and also “Hand in Hand”

 

 

They are German versions of d’amour ou d’amitie and also “ne partez sans moi”

 

Also :

• “Nur Das Leben” (« C’est pour vivre »)

 

• “Mon Ami Geh Nicht Fort” (« Mon ami m’a quittée ») https://youtu.be/9H__iVDnX64

 

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She said in an interview from the late 80s that she intends to release a full German album, but it never happened. However, these songs remain. I wonder where they are from. Were these ever officially released? Or are these leaks, or bsides?
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I agree. I really like listening to or for small details in a song that makes big differences. Really break down the arrangement. Yes autistic in that way. ;)

The guitar adds some "oumph" and "drama" to the song I think. Even if it's only really noticeable for a tiny bit it adds to the overall impression of the song. I wouldn't mind if the guitar got a little more space in the song. As you said it's more noticeable in one of the channels in the 5.1 mix on the All the way DVD/SACD.

Also to compare with Think twice the "no no" bit makes a big difference to the whole song even if it's just a small part.

The strings are great and sort of sets the mood for the melody. Also when we talk about small details the "ding ding" sound is also just great. Small stuff you necessarily want but when you take them out you hear something is missing.

Hard to explain hope you know what I mean. :)

 

This isn't the radio edit but the electric guitar is great in this. This instrumental is just great in general with acoustic guitar and violin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga_D78zSBNo

 

@0:43 is the "ding ding" I mentioned earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNZa-kj8NwI

 

Btw I wonder is it a different tempo in the radio edit vs the movie version?

Cause I think the movie version feels slower.

 

i combined the instrumentals from Un Peu De Nous album and A New Day end credits. I really prefer this version. I really like the violin and electric guitar makes the sound more alive

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Everything about that album is formulated to cast a wide net. The only missing demographic is Latinx Americans (and young people, but we won't go there :giggle:).

 

It amuses/baffles me that it's omitted from the U.S. version, a nation on the verge of the "Latin music explosion" of 1999. You'd think the suits in Sony's marketing dept. would have seen that trend coming!

 

Wait but Amar Haciendo el Amor is on the US version, according to Wiki? And presumably that appeals to Latinx Americans?

 

But yes, I agree...it's basically a money-maker disguised as an album...even though I like a lot of the songs and Celine's voice

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Her last spanish song was back in 2002 in A New Day Has Come album.

 

Maybe the spanish version of Have You Ever Been in Love was supposed to be part of the album One Heart but they changed their minds.. so again they include the english version of Have You Ever Been In Love.

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Her last spanish song was back in 2002 in A New Day Has Come album.

 

Maybe the spanish version of Have You Ever Been in Love was supposed to be part of the album One Heart but they changed their minds.. so again they include the english version of Have You Ever Been In Love.

 

Omg, I would love to hear HYEBIL in Spanish...her low, velvet-y notes would sound so good in Spanish

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Omg, I would love to hear HYEBIL in Spanish...her low, velvet-y notes would sound so good in Spanish

 

Me too! I don’t know if she already recorded it. Someone posted the lyrics of HYEBIL in spanish here before

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What do you guys think of this?

 

http://jimsteinman.com/sacred.htm

 

So now we know why the song wasn't released...

 

This article is old news. Been discussed to death already. I suppose there will be some new fans who don’t know about this. But it’s just so old....over 2 decades now...what’s left to say?

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This article is old news. Been discussed to death already. I suppose there will be some new fans who don't know about this. But it's just so old....over 2 decades now...what's left to say?

 

Sorry, I'm "new" here in the forum, and never saw this discussion...

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i combined the instrumentals from Un Peu De Nous album and A New Day end credits. I really prefer this version. I really like the violin and electric guitar makes the sound more alive

Did you do that?? :mellow: If that's the case it's awesome. Really great job! :) And I think it sounds really professional. I mean I can't hear that two pieces are combined.

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Sorry, I'm "new" here in the forum, and never saw this discussion...

I haven't read it before so it was great. :) Pretty interesting I must say.

I'm a little surprised that the album has that many good song despite the demands. Although think maybe how great the album could've been if more big songwriters were onboard instead of declining because of the contract. For example I think "Is nothing sacred anymore" is a great song and think that more songs of that calibre were left out because of the publishing issue.

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