"Let's Talk About Love" album - Official Topic

[jpatdeleon09]

To me the MHWGO note sounds natural but the one in SFL is definitely fake.

 

i think walter is the one who edits MHWGO radio edit version

[couldawouldashoulda]

I think the echo of “and on” in MHWGO is completely Celine, I could totally see her being able to do this technique while moving away from the microphone (they would’ve enhanced it surely)... or if it is just one sound repeated, I’m sure she did “and on” once so they could use it...separate from the larger belt she does at 4:03 precisely

 

As for SFL, I think we users might hear a different place where the computer kicks in, but no doubt a computer does kick in...but I do wonder if she sang it entirely in studio as well, just so she knew where to come back in for the notes that directly follow the computer. After all, there’s no way in actuality that she just cut off her belt from 100 to 0 when recording that bit

 

I’ll try to explain this and then you should go listen to SFL (2003 version) on One Heart. Listen to the bridge. When it’s almost over and she sings “I’m not sorryyyyyyyyy” going into the key change, she hits the note and it’s over. However, for the remix version on ANDHC, they artificially make it last. Then the way she sings “wouldn’t take back a thing” during the key change of the 2003 version is cut and edited to the end of the remix version long note.

 

Now go listen to 2003 - just from the bridge to the end and go back and listen to the version on ANDHC from the bridge to that fake long note.

 

Hopefully, that help your ear to hear what we’re talking about.

[jpatdeleon09]

This happens..it depends on the producer if they like to make some changes from the final record by editing it. Not just for Céline, it happens to other singers as well

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I’ll try to explain this and then you should go listen to SFL (2003 version) on One Heart. Listen to the bridge. When it’s almost over and she sings “I’m not sorryyyyyyyyy” going into the key change, she hits the note and it’s over. However, for the remix version on ANDHC, they artificially make it last. Then the way she sings “wouldn’t take back a thing” during the key change of the 2003 version is cut and edited to the end of the remix version long note.

 

Now go listen to 2003 - just from the bridge to the end and go back and listen to the version on ANDHC from the bridge to that fake long note.

 

Hopefully, that help your ear to hear what we’re talking about.

 

Thank you. This is exactly what I tried to explain about SFL a page or so back.

[couldawouldashoulda]

Thank you. This is exactly what I tried to explain about SFL a page or so back.

 

I know! And nobody seemed to understand it. So I thought I’d give it another try. We’ll see if it works this time.

[MTJ]

I mean, yes I understand how you're explaining they've changed and re-pieced the song together. I'm just still not sure I agree with you. Does it sounds a little computer-aided? Yes, but then again the whole backing track sounds digital. I'm positive that many computers were used in the making of this song, I don't argue that. It's just we know from every studio session video we've seen that she goes through the song many many times, all of which they record. Is it so hard to imagine she pulled this long note out in one of the takes? Even if the runs are the same. She would definitely have been able to copy this run or that without the aid of digital vocal alterations. Plus, she would have been sitting there with the producer when they said "hey lets make this a really long crazy note, wanna try it?" Can you picture competitive Celine saying "no, just make it on the computer..."?

 

More importantly, I'm glad I have some consensus with MHWGO. Someday if I meet her I'll ask her.

Edited July 1, 2020 at 03:04 PM by MTJ

[couldawouldashoulda]

I mean, yes I understand how you're explaining they've changed and re-pieced the song together. I'm just still not sure I agree with you. Does it sounds a little computer-aided? Yes, but then again the whole backing track sounds digital. I'm positive that many computers were used in the making of this song, I don't argue that. It's just we know from every studio session video we've seen that she goes through the song many many times, all of which they record. Is it so hard to imagine she pulled this long note out in one of the takes? Even if the runs are the same. She would definitely have been able to copy this run or that without the aid of digital vocal alterations. Plus, she would have been sitting there with the producer when they said "hey lets make this a really long crazy note, wanna try it?" Can you picture competitive Celine saying "no, just make it on the computer..."?

 

More importantly, I'm glad I have some consensus with MHWGO. Someday if I meet her I'll ask her.

 

You just can’t argue with people who don’t want to see the truth. Some people still believe Celine sings the big note in ABM live and if you argue with them, they give you a million reasons as to why that would never happen. “You know how competitive Celine is. Do you think she’d lip-synch a note when she could prove to everyone that she can hit it?” And don’t come back with “that’s live, we’re talking studio.”

 

You believe want you want to believe. I’ll believe what is clearly obvious to anyone with ears that listens to the two tracks.

[MTJ]

You just can’t argue with people who don’t want to see the truth. Some people still believe Celine sings the big note in ABM live and if you argue with them, they give you a million reasons as to why that would never happen. “You know how competitive Celine is. Do you think she’d lip-synch a note when she could prove to everyone that she can hit it?” And don’t come back with “that’s live, we’re talking studio.”

 

You believe want you want to believe. I’ll believe what is clearly obvious to anyone with ears that listens to the two tracks.

 

Wow. Ok then.

[PuraVida]

I'll try to explain this and then you should go listen to SFL (2003 version) on One Heart. Listen to the bridge. When it's almost over and she sings "I'm not sorryyyyyyyyy" going into the key change, she hits the note and it's over. However, for the remix version on ANDHC, they artificially make it last. Then the way she sings "wouldn't take back a thing" during the key change of the 2003 version is cut and edited to the end of the remix version long note.

 

Now go listen to 2003 - just from the bridge to the end and go back and listen to the version on ANDHC from the bridge to that fake long note.

 

Hopefully, that help your ear to hear what we're talking about.

 

I already understood what you all were talking about. I understand that the versions are different and what they did with the computers. I was trying to make a different point which I will just abandon because I'm not sure if I believe it entirely and I wouldn't want to try to explain lol.

[PuraVida]

I mean, yes I understand how you're explaining they've changed and re-pieced the song together. I'm just still not sure I agree with you. Does it sounds a little computer-aided? Yes, but then again the whole backing track sounds digital. I'm positive that many computers were used in the making of this song, I don't argue that. It's just we know from every studio session video we've seen that she goes through the song many many times, all of which they record. Is it so hard to imagine she pulled this long note out in one of the takes? Even if the runs are the same. She would definitely have been able to copy this run or that without the aid of digital vocal alterations. Plus, she would have been sitting there with the producer when they said "hey lets make this a really long crazy note, wanna try it?" Can you picture competitive Celine saying "no, just make it on the computer..."?

 

More importantly, I'm glad I have some consensus with MHWGO. Someday if I meet her I'll ask her.

 

So what's the MHWGO consensus?

[Céline RO]

Someday if I meet her I'll ask her.

 

There are thousands of far more important things I’d ask her before that but, ok.

[MTJ]

So what's the MHWGO consensus?

 

I say the mystery remains. They sure have told the story as if the song was sung once - one take - good demo, and she never had to touch it again (in the studio). There are vocals from throughout the song that could have been remixed to create the radio version. But I just know if I were a song writer and had studio time with Celine, I would have her sing it more than one time through, even if no one else wanted her to. I really bet they had at least the full song, plus some parts they doubled back to just because they wanted to hear her different attempts.

 

And Celine RO, what better question do you have to ask her?

[SuperLove4Celine]

 

 

There are thousands of far more important things I’d ask her before that but, ok.

 

Likewise.

[Ukrfan]

I do believe that MHWGO was done in one take because if she ever had rerecorded it once again, they would have gotten rid of her mispronunciation in the second verse (I believe dutch the heart does go on)

[jpatdeleon09]

I believe DUTCH the heart does go on haha

 

I actually like it lol

[Tyler1991]

Sorry for love one heart is obviously the real vocal. Andhc is definitely manipulated but its fun to attempt in the car alone lol

[PuraVida]

Instead of asking her certain questions, I think I would just request she bring back specific songs to her shows lol. I'm not sure what I would ask that somewhere somehow hasn't been covered in an interview (even if she didn't go fully into detail all the time). Although I guess we all would love a good update on the Maria Callas project aspirations.

 

Oh, I would ask who her managing team is so I could go yell at them.

[SuperLove4Celine]

Instead of asking her certain questions, I think I would just request she bring back specific songs to her shows lol. I'm not sure what I would ask that somewhere somehow hasn't been covered in an interview (even if she didn't go fully into detail all the time). Although I guess we all would love a good update on the Maria Callas project aspirations.

 

Oh, I would ask who her managing team is so I could go yell at them.

 

I would force her to talk about TYLAM.

[PuraVida]

I would force her to talk about TYLAM.

 

Oo nice. But what about it?

 

Oh I guess I am curious also about the last time she has seen//whether she stays in contact with certain show business people. Clive Griffin, Streisand, Carole King, Patti Labelle, Peabo Bryson, etc. And, which celebrities has she hung out with for real for real i.e. had lunch at their house?

 

But yes, if I was in a meet & greet with limited time I would just ask her to bring back certain songs.

Edited July 1, 2020 at 07:25 PM by PuraVida

[SuperLove4Celine]

 

 

Oo nice. But what about it?

 

Oh I guess I am curious also about the last time she has seen//whether she stays in contact with certain show business people. Clive Griffin, Streisand, Carole King, Patti Labelle, Peabo Bryson, etc. And, which celebrities has she hung out with for real for real i.e. had lunch at their house?

 

But yes, if I was in a meet & greet with limited time I would just ask her to bring back certain songs.

 

I’d wanna know about the recording session, about the video, about James and Will, and most importantly, why the frack she hasn’t performed it live ONCE when it’s clearly one of the biggest fan favorites.

[PuraVida]

I'd wanna know about the recording session, about the video, about James and Will, and most importantly, why the frack she hasn't performed it live ONCE when it's clearly one of the biggest fan favorites.

 

She's definitely forgotten about it. Recorded it right before her break and probably never looked back at it or how well it has done. Do we imagine any of her team has look it up on streaming or Youtube to see the views?

[SuperLove4Celine]

 

 

She's definitely forgotten about it. Recorded it right before her break and probably never looked back at it or how well it has done. Do we imagine any of her team has look it up on streaming or Youtube to see the views?

 

Back when the original theme of “Celine” was to be movies, they reviewed the song. A photo of Celine watching the music video can be found in the first pressing of the program. I’m sure she remembers the song. She just doesn’t know, or nobody on her team has told her, just how popular the song is with the fans.

Edited July 1, 2020 at 07:59 PM by SuperLove4Celine

[SuperLove4Celine]

**delete** Edited July 1, 2020 at 07:59 PM by SuperLove4Celine

[PuraVida]

Back when the original theme of "Celine" was to be movies, they reviewed the song. A photo of Celine watching the music video can be found in the first pressing of the program. I'm sure she remembers the song. She just doesn't know, or nobody on her team has told her, just how popular the song is with the fans.

 

Oh, I didn't know that information. Thanks. I want to find that photo now.

[couldawouldashoulda]

 

 

Back when the original theme of “Celine” was to be movies, they reviewed the song. A photo of Celine watching the music video can be found in the first pressing of the program. I’m sure she remembers the song. She just doesn’t know, or nobody on her team has told her, just how popular the song is with the fans.

 

My memory from back in the day (which could be wrong at this point) was that she REALLY didn’t want to do another soundtrack song so soon after MHWGO. But she and Rene were close with James Horner and they couldn’t be impolite and turn him down when he’d just made her an international superstar. It may just be that she didn’t like the song.

[MaiconSC]

I'll try to explain this and then you should go listen to SFL (2003 version) on One Heart. Listen to the bridge. When it's almost over and she sings "I'm not sorryyyyyyyyy" going into the key change, she hits the note and it's over. However, for the remix version on ANDHC, they artificially make it last. Then the way she sings "wouldn't take back a thing" during the key change of the 2003 version is cut and edited to the end of the remix version long note.

 

Now go listen to 2003 - just from the bridge to the end and go back and listen to the version on ANDHC from the bridge to that fake long note.

 

Hopefully, that help your ear to hear what we're talking about.

Thank you. This is exactly what I tried to explain about SFL a page or so back.

I mean, yes I understand how you're explaining they've changed and re-pieced the song together. I'm just still not sure I agree with you. Does it sounds a little computer-aided? Yes, but then again the whole backing track sounds digital. I'm positive that many computers were used in the making of this song, I don't argue that. It's just we know from every studio session video we've seen that she goes through the song many many times, all of which they record. Is it so hard to imagine she pulled this long note out in one of the takes? Even if the runs are the same. She would definitely have been able to copy this run or that without the aid of digital vocal alterations. Plus, she would have been sitting there with the producer when they said "hey lets make this a really long crazy note, wanna try it?" Can you picture competitive Celine saying "no, just make it on the computer..."?

 

More importantly, I'm glad I have some consensus with MHWGO. Someday if I meet her I'll ask her.

I think the echo of "and on" in MHWGO is completely Celine, I could totally see her being able to do this technique while moving away from the microphone (they would've enhanced it surely)... or if it is just one sound repeated, I'm sure she did "and on" once so they could use it...separate from the larger belt she does at 4:03 precisely

 

As for SFL, I think we users might hear a different place where the computer kicks in, but no doubt a computer does kick in...but I do wonder if she sang it entirely in studio as well, just so she knew where to come back in for the notes that directly follow the computer. After all, there's no way in actuality that she just cut off her belt from 100 to 0 when recording that bit

 

To ilustrate what the most of us believe that happened to Sorry For Love:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFx2U3Rqxk8

 

I used Audacity, and take the 2003 version. Copied a bit of the note, and pasted it several times to make it longer (of course the result is garbage, we don't have the vocals separated from that part) and then pasted the melisma from another part of the song... And voilà... We have the ANDHC version...

[PuraVida]

To ilustrate what the most of us believe that happened to Sorry For Love:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFx2U3Rqxk8

 

I used Audacity, and take the 2003 version. Copied a bit of the note, and pasted it several times to make it longer (of course the result is garbage, we don't have the vocals separated from that part) and then pasted the melisma from another part of the song... And voilà... We have the ANDHC version...

 

New remix for the kids!

[MaiconSC]

And here's the comparison between Soundtrack and LTAL versions of MHWGO...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaWoBYXkC8g

 

In the left speaker you'll hear the Soundtrack version, and in the right speaker you'll hear the LTAL one...

I took the 5.1 SACD tracks from the Soundtrack and the All The Way A Decade Of Song releases, and isolated the channels with the vocals...

I deleted some instrumental parts so the singing would match, and at the climax I had to speed up a little bit the Soundtrack version to match with the LTAL (like I said before the producers speeded up...).

Without count the long note "and OOOOON" at the end of the climax (which the producers edited), and the final humming, the vocals are exactly the same...

Edited July 1, 2020 at 11:28 PM by MaiconSC

[PuraVida]

And here's the comparison between Soundtrack and LTAL versions of MHWGO...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaWoBYXkC8g

 

In the left speaker you'll hear the Soundtrack version, and in the right speaker you'll hear the LTAL one...

I took the 5.1 SACD tracks from the Soundtrack and the All The Way A Decade Of Song releases, and isolated the channels with the vocals...

I deleted some instrumental parts so the singing would match, and at the climax I had to speed up a little bit the Soundtrack version to match with the LTAL (like I said before the producers speeded up...).

Without count the long note "and OOOOON" at the end of the climax (which the producers edited), and the final humming, the vocals are exactly the same...

 

I think the album version is better

[TiagoFragoso05]

I did a slow motion of the acapella version of mhwgo

 

U can compare the final on here

 

 

https://youtu.be/FIeRGgMeNEA

 

https://youtu.be/M3dkwkvt2WY

 

Full acapella

 

 

 

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