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I think Celine will be trending on twitter soon, as twitter is going crazy about this... many tweets are nasty, but others saying that it needed to be said, and that they agree with certain points she raised.

Celine is hurting to its obvious, from how she spoke, she was a fan, and looked up to her, in my opinion she was speaking as a fan... she mean't no harm!

Actually we have more nasty tweets than good ones. :shrug:

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Actually we have more nasty tweets than good ones. :shrug:

 

I'm glad I'm not on Twitter then, I have my opinion on what she said but I don't need to be angered by others senseless comments when the focus should really be elsewhere.

~J O E Y~
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I was reading all the mentions on Twitter and there are some bad ones. But there are some good ones where they applaud her for speaking up like that because someone had to.

 

I personally feel she did the right thing. It's obvious that she was hurting and that she was questioning the way it works, she didn't mean anything bad by it. I doubt they're going to make her apologize, or at least I ope not.

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:mellow: @ the GMA phone call. She would've been better off just saying nothing. I can sense much backlash against her for this. Sorry, but she had not night to judge or speculate. Can just picture Bobbi Kristina cursing at the tv. Edited by idroveallnight
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She was completely correct on questioning the role Whitney's family played in her demise. In the last 12 years she was a train wreck crying for help. Her family hasn't been any more of help than her husband who now is enjoying the time of his life.

 

I'm sorry if it offends anyone but I totally agree with this. I truely believe that Celine is where she is because she had help and guidance through her carrer from her husband and family. But anyway you look at it, you will not win when judging someone else for the way they live their life! :(

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And here it comes... the double standard that many people has :rolleyes:

 

I believe Céline spoke from her heart. She was talking as a fan, and she was angry, like a fan. She said she was surrounded by bad people, and everybody agrees that husband of her ruined her life.

She also spoke about drugs, and while we don't know the official autopsy results, they confirmed that she took pills for anxiety caused by a depression that never completely disappeared, and everybody knows that whatever strong medicine taken in overdose has the effects of a drug, even if its not considered that. So Céline didn't say any lie. Too much of anything for too much time is just bad.

 

Sorry I'm tired of everybody having to be politically correct in that country and afraid to say what they really think :doh:

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Support Celine on twitter many people and critics should stop it right away

Celine fans go to work!

 

 

 

Soutenons celine sur twitter car au vu des critiques il faut la défendre

 

allez fans de celine au travail !:!!!

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She was completely correct on questioning the role Whitney's family played in her demise. In the last 12 years she was a train wreck crying for help. Her family hasn't been any more of help than her husband who now is enjoying the time of his life.

You don't know that. Robin Roberts said her family tried to reach out to her and give her the help she needed but there was only so much they could do...when your surrounded by that much power and money, you can block out just about anything you want. Don't forget it was Whitney's siblings that raised her daughter when she was battling her addiction...and it was her mother that arrived with 2 sheriffs are her front door and told she needed to grab her stuff, get the hell out, and get sober. Not everyone has the picture perfect family Celine has...and that is why I think many people find it hard to connect with her music because it's just sometimes so unrealistic. Thank God Celine has never had that type of life and that she's always been surrounded with the right people...but not everyone is as fortunate as her and surely with some empathy, she could have seen it from Whitney's perspective. She could have just given a few words of condolence and paid tribute to her rather than going on a tangent about drugs.

 

I'm sure Celine pictured that phone call going very differently before it began and is probably regretting every word she said. The problem is that she was thinking out loud and instead of turning it around, she just kept digging herself a bigger hole. Rene's face was probably in his palms in the entire time.

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This is exhasperating! Could someone please resume in facts what happened?

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Merci Céline pour ces deux soirées inoubliables que j'ai passées à tes côtés. Je ne les oublierais jamais.

J't'adore Céline.

Merci.

<3

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Unfortunately they're doing a snowball out of it, its embarrasing :confused:

 

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I just think everytime Céline speaks about other people's life they just attack her. That's why she usually keeps her family-oriented conversation :confused:

 

Well, what do you expect? Did you see the amazing tributes and words of reverence they gave for Whitney last night at the Grammys? Whitney's life was music, and the drugs were a part of her life. Don't forget about her huge body of work and that amazing voice. If Celine was in her shoes, you'd want her to be remembered for the music, not the addiction.

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I had the privilege to see Whitney in concert in Milan in 2010 and when she was on stage she sounded really weired like she was under some drug effect. She said no-sense lines, It was a very hot day and she complained she was cold she could feel the wind coming from some door :confused: and I was sad about that. Talking about Celine, she just said what she thinks. It's her opinion, if you really loved Whitney you couldn't agree more. :flowers:

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i don't really understand the reason why people talks this way against celine!!she has just said the truth..everybody's just talking about whitney's death without considering the reason that took her to the death!!celine said these things because she lives in the showbusiness and she knows that there are a lot of bad influences in it ...i think that she wants to make understand the people , expecially youngest people, that drugs can distruct them and that they should be far from all these bad things!!!we all should appreciate her words!!
Posted
Celine did speak the truth, why is everyone afraid to say Whitney more than likely died due to drugs. Whitney has been a train wreck these last few years all due to drug use. It is very sad what happened to her, just like Elvis Presley, just like Marlyn Monroe, It nearly almost happened to Britney and almost to Johnny Cash.... Celine speaks the truth.

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RIP Rene Angelil xx

 

Sending Love and Prayers to Celine

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Well, what do you expect? Did you see the amazing tributes and words of reverence they gave for Whitney last night at the Grammys? Whitney's life was music, and the drugs were a part of her life. Don't forget about her huge body of work and that amazing voice. If Celine was in her shoes, you'd want her to be remembered for the music, not the addiction.

 

Yes of course but she just spoke both sides of her life without hesitancy. Was it harsh? Too soon to bring up the topic? Probably yes. And we should remember Céline is probably heartbroken about it, as a fan. But we won't fix anything silencing it. Sooner or later that reality will come up. D-R-U-G-S yes, and no matter if it was the cause of Whitney's death or not, it ruined her talent and her health for the past 12 years or so. Unfortunately, she's going to be remembered also for that, and believe me its hard for me to accept it as a fan of Whitney also, but that was her life... between light and shadow.

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Celine was obviously speaking out of anger for her loss. Some people react differently to death and people saying mean things on twitter/facebook/whatever need to respect that. She's angry for the waste of talent as I am. Whitney was blessed with a voice and she let show business get the best of her when many people would do anything to be in her shoes. Yes, I understand, not everyone can have the self control that Celine does it that kind of stressful environment, but it's such a shame it got this far. I don't think Celine said any of it to offend anyone or talk Whitney or her family down, she said it because she was hurting and searching for an answer. Her death is tragic but what is also tragic is how many fans and people that look up to her were let down by her. If this were Celine, and I found out she passed away from drugs, of course I would be heartbroken, but at the same time I would be outraged. Probably the same reaction Celine had here. I'm am so glad that we are blessed with an idol who is not afraid to speak from her heart, appreciates her talent and fans, and doesn't take for granted the voice she was given. I really wish other people saw her like we do and didn't see this interview as offensive. When you're given a gift, like a voice that can move millions all around the world, you use that gift to inspire others, you don't waste it. Now, I'm not a religious person really...but that voice came from some where. Whether it be God or something else it truly was a miracle and it's really a heartbreaking end to someone that once sung about loving herself and that being the greatest love of all.

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I think it was just about the timing... Although she was saying what others are afraid to say, the timing was a bit off because like what is happening now, they are dissing her for being "insensitive" or "judgmental"...

 

But actually, we should admire Celine even more because she was really really brave to say what everyone is so scared (or at least out of respect) to say right now...

 

And besides, it was really obvious, as others here have already said, that Celine was obviously hurting and angry at the circumstance... She was not blaming whitney or her family... she was blaming showbusiness, she was blaming the system... It was more of concern but the way she said it left her prone to be misunderstood...

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I think it was just about the timing... Although she was saying what others are afraid to say, the timing was a bit off because like what is happening now, they are dissing her for being "insensitive" or "judgmental"...

 

But actually, we should admire Celine even more because she was really really brave to say what everyone is so scared (or at least out of respect) to say right now...

 

And besides, it was really obvious, as others here have already said, that Celine was obviously hurting and angry at the circumstance... She was not blaming whitney or her family... she was blaming showbusiness, she was blaming the system... It was more of concern but the way she said it left her prone to be misunderstood...

 

 

totaly agree

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I know celine meant no harm but I wish she would've focused on her admiration and love for whitney

 

the press has now picked up on her comments and are making a big deal out of it

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TMZ isn't always the most accurate, I'll wait for the official report. Thanks for posting it though.

 

Honestly, I can see why they are slamming Celine. I just wish she didn't say anything, it's really not her place - she wasn't friends with Whitney. If it were Celine would we want Mariah saying things? I think the anger is directed at Celine because it sounds like she kinda made it about her almost saying her life is not like Whitney's so she can't understand how this could happen when she has a family and a child. Again - way different circles. As a devoted Celine fan I know her intention and I know things don't always come out the right way but she speaks from her heart as she did with Hurricane Katrina - she had me in tears on Larry King.

 

Also, it's not about being politically correct in THIS country, it's about being respectful to the family & her memory at this point in time since it JUST happened. All the questions will come, maybe not answers, but they will come in time and now is just not the time.

~J O E Y~
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TMZ isn't always the most accurate, I'll wait for the official report. Thanks for posting it though.

 

Honestly, I can see why they are slamming Celine. I just wish she didn't say anything, it's really not her place - she wasn't friends with Whitney. If it were Celine would we want Mariah saying things? I think the anger is directed at Celine because it sounds like she kinda made it about her almost saying her life is not like Whitney's so she can't understand how this could happen when she has a family and a child. Again - way different circles. As a devoted Celine fan I know her intention and I know things don't always come out the right way but she speaks from her heart as she did with Hurricane Katrina - she had me in tears on Larry King.

 

Also, it's not about being politically correct in THIS country, it's about being respectful to the family & her memory at this point in time since it JUST happened. All the questions will come, maybe not answers, but they will come in time and now is just not the time.

 

Exactly, perfectly said, Joey.

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I think Celine is so right, and I admire her for speaking out. It is not like what she's saying is a secret or based on speculation, it is the true unfortunately.
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Well like so many I am still shocked and saddened at Whitney's death. She was clearly one of the greatest singers the world has ever seen and obviously a massive influence on Céine and her career.

 

Hearing the interview Céine gave today on ABC I have to say I couldn't agree more. When you have such a wonderful gift that brings you great fame and fortune and to have a family and a child you are truly blessed. Such a shame that it can all spiral out of control with the drugs and bad influences until you're so out of it you can't make the best of the good things in your life.

 

I have to say though how hypocritical of the media to pass comment on Céline in the way they have.

 

I don't think for a second Céline was saying that Whitney's family were to blame for not getting her off of drugs, she was just making the point that even though she obviously had a close family Whitney still put herself on this self-destructive lifestyle. I am shocked the presenter practically shouted over Céine to tell her that the family tried to help. Céline wasn't saying they didn't, she was just saying what we all think - it's so sad and seems to happen all too often.

 

And for the media to now criticise Céline for saying drugs and showbusiness killed Whitney - after all the crap the media have printed about Whitney over the years. It's scandalous - they act as though Whitney's death has nothing to do with her lifestyle and Céline is the only one pointing the finger - which is clearly bs.

 

Céline may not be pc but she definitely speaks from the heart and to me she's an inspiration and a role-model. Someone who shows discipline and self-restraint, not going to parties and pleasing herself but going to work and taking care of her family. She shows you can still have fun and not take it to extremes!

 

It's a pity society holds up that party lifestyle as chic and cool and portrays someone like Céline as boring. Well lucky for us as hopefully Céline will be around for a long long time to come.

 

xx

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I think Celine is so right, and I admire her for speaking out. It is not like what she's saying is a secret or based on speculation, it is the true unfortunately.

 

There is a time and place for everything and speaking out at this point serves no one well, it does not good and it will (and has) angered people. Compassionate, supporting, & loving words are the way to go at this time.

~J O E Y~
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honestly she chose the wrong time and place. she should've just shown love, and as we've seen from celine in the past when whitney was still alive, she had plenty of that for whitney

 

i doubt that celine will ever be invited to sing at any whitney tributes after this

 

but at the same time.....half the comments i've read since saturday have been the same. the drug issue is like the elephant in the room that everyone wants to ignore

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Just watched the interview and and I'm in the camp that is behind Celine 100%.

 

She wasn't judging, she was simply saying "how can someone with a loving family like Whitney end up like this?" She didn't say "Whitney's family didn't help her and it's their/her fault she's dead because she married a loser and got addicted to drugs." THAT would be disrespectful. How people interpret what she said is up to the person that hears it and takes from it what they will.

 

Like others have said, Celine isn't just speaking as a fellow singer. She's speaking as someone who has lost an idol, just like the millions of other fans including myself that are still reeling from Whitney's death when she appeared to be getting her life together. Grief and anger are very much the prevalent emotions right now which is also why a lot of people are coming down on her. It's a vicious, terrible cycle that happens when someone dies, and possibly only time will even start to heal the wounds. I can't imagine what kind of pain Bobbi Kristina is in right now - this surely is her worst nightmare come to life.

 

I think most of Celine's anger is coming from the same place that mine is, in that we've seen three bright stars extinguished by substance abuse and/or mishandling - Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson, Amy Winehouse and now possibly Whitney - in the last four years alone, and it just seems so...wrong and unfair that not only are they gone but that devastated families and friends are left to deal with the aftermath. She speaks from what she knows - if Celine and/or Rene were addicts the way Whitney was, they and we know that their families would physically break down their door, take their children out of that situation and drag them kicking and screaming to rehab. My family would do absolutely the same thing. It's only natural to wonder "why?" I also wonder why we see this over and over and over again when there are such cautionary tales like not only the three above but also of legends like Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix and countless others. When we feel powerless to change someone's situation, be it addiction or otherwise, it just makes us angrier.

 

I'm not trying to come across as patronizing or on a soapbox, but I'm angry, too. This is as I said above so incredibly unfair to anyone who ever loved or looked up to Whitney. Perhaps, if we find out that she died in the same manner as the others I mentioned above, *this* cautionary tale will finally sink in.

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honestly she chose the wrong time and place. she should've just shown love, and as we've seen from celine in the past when whitney was still alive, she had plenty of that for whitney

 

i doubt that celine will ever be invited to sing at any whitney tributes after this

 

but at the same time.....half the comments i've read since saturday have been the same. the drug issue is like the elephant in the room that everyone wants to ignore

 

Yes Yes...I agree on that. Ugghhh, I'm just so sad right now. I read on TMZ that they wanna bring her back to Atlanta. No way should she be there, she should be laid to rest in New Jersey. That's where she's from and that's where her mother lives. I don't think she was happy at all in Atlanta.

~J O E Y~
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I don't usually get involved in discussions like this, but I feel I have to speak up now.

I, like so many others, am behind Celine 100 percent. In my opinion she spoke the truth that so many others can't or won't say.

Drugs are so much a part of the show business lifestyle, that I think Celine has a right to be afraid of it.

Look at how many people party constantly. Britney, Lindsey Lohan, so many others.

To me, Celine has it right. Sing, visit socially on ocasion, then go home and be with your family.

As so many others have said, Whitney ruined her tallent with her own life choices. Thank god Celine will never make those kind of decisions.

I admire her more now than ever for being brave enough to speak her mind, no matter what anyone else says.

my life, my dream, my Céline.

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