Whitney Houston & Celine Dion

[ferjaacu]

Glad to hear it. Celine spoke from the heart and as a fan. The media have twisted her words making it look like she said

I don't care what the coroner says, Whitney died of a drug overdose"

 

Reading the Whitney message boards has really depressed me. (Not about Celine bashing, which I haven't seen much of, I mean in general) I can't dare to imagine how these fans must be feeling now. It's hard not to imagine us going through that here...

 

My heart goes out to them

 

Wouldn't it be a nice idea if Vic or Belamy, as the official representatives of this forum, could send a message of condolence on our behalf to all the fans on our sister fan site letting them know that we are thinking of them at this difficult time in their community (is classic whitney the biggest one on the web?) Maybe we could also include a link to this or one of the other Whitney topics, so they can see that they are not alone. It would be comforting, if the situation was reversed, to see that another fan forum was thinking about us.

 

What do ye think?

 

I think that's a great idea... Since we're suffering her death too, I think it'd be really nice to let them know they're not alone in this tragic loss.

[celine_1983]

Yeah I had similar thoughts to this. We can only imagine what her biggest fans are going through. I know how I'd feel inn their place.

 

Great idea!

 

 

Glad to hear it. Celine spoke from the heart and as a fan. The media have twisted her words making it look like she said

I don't care what the coroner says, Whitney died of a drug overdose"

 

Reading the Whitney message boards has really depressed me. (Not about Celine bashing, which I haven't seen much of, I mean in general) I can't dare to imagine how these fans must be feeling now. It's hard not to imagine us going through that here...

 

My heart goes out to them

 

Wouldn't it be a nice idea if Vic or Belamy, as the official representatives of this forum, could send a message of condolence on our behalf to all the fans on our sister fan site letting them know that we are thinking of them at this difficult time in their community (is classic whitney the biggest one on the web?) Maybe we could also include a link to this or one of the other Whitney topics, so they can see that they are not alone. It would be comforting, if the situation was reversed, to see that another fan forum was thinking about us.

 

What do ye think?

[duri]

Glad to hear it. Celine spoke from the heart and as a fan. The media have twisted her words making it look like she said

I don't care what the coroner says, Whitney died of a drug overdose"

 

Reading the Whitney message boards has really depressed me. (Not about Celine bashing, which I haven't seen much of, I mean in general) I can't dare to imagine how these fans must be feeling now. It's hard not to imagine us going through that here...

 

My heart goes out to them

 

Wouldn't it be a nice idea if Vic or Belamy, as the official representatives of this forum, could send a message of condolence on our behalf to all the fans on our sister fan site letting them know that we are thinking of them at this difficult time in their community (is classic whitney the biggest one on the web?) Maybe we could also include a link to this or one of the other Whitney topics, so they can see that they are not alone. It would be comforting, if the situation was reversed, to see that another fan forum was thinking about us.

 

What do ye think?

Great idea! I´m also reading some of Whitney forums and it´s really very very sad to read it, she could do so many things, albums song and even if not she would be still here and they could at least hope for songs, concerts ... but now everything is gone now they can only remember her and it´s devastating.

[Celinenvegas]

Yeah I had similar thoughts to this. We can only imagine what her biggest fans are going through. I know how I'd feel inn their place.

 

Great idea!

 

I'll tell you what WE are going through...our hearts are broken. I've been a big Whitney fan since 1985, her music has gotten me through some dark times (along with Celine). It is not consoling to hear those kinds of comments immediately after Whitney's passing no matter how honest or "from the heart" they were. As a Celine fan it is comforting to know Celine feels the loss deeply but I really wished she didn't make such public comments as a person who is not a friend of the family. I'm distraught over Whitney's passing, the last thing I need to hear is people attacking another artist I love so deeply.

 

I think it's a great idea for our celine forum to reach out to Whitney's fans but DO NOT give a link to THIS topic, they would be hurt deeply and rightly so. Whitney fans have been put through the mill with her and yet we are still here and will look forward to her upcoming movie and any music that is newly released.

[celine_1983]

I'll tell you what WE are going through...our hearts are broken. I've been a big Whitney fan since 1985, her music has gotten me through some dark times (along with Celine). It is not consoling to hear those kinds of comments immediately after Whitney's passing no matter how honest or "from the heart" they were. As a Celine fan it is comforting to know Celine feels the loss deeply but I really wished she didn't make such public comments as a person who is not a friend of the family. I'm distraught over Whitney's passing, the last thing I need to hear is people attacking another artist I love so deeply.

 

I think it's a great idea for our celine forum to reach out to Whitney's fans but DO NOT give a link to THIS topic, they would be hurt deeply and rightly so. Whitney fans have been put through the mill with her and yet we are still here and will look forward to her upcoming movie and any music that is newly released.

 

Yeah, I deffo agree that 'this' topic is not the place to tell Whitney's biggest fans to visit.

 

Instead, I'm gonna go join Whitney's fans on their forums and share in the memories of her but also discover more of her music and her wonderful talent too.

 

That's how we should all remember her I think, listening to her music, sharing it with those we love and by keeping that awesome voice in people's lives and hearts for a long time to come.

 

xx

[ferjaacu]

I don't think we should lead them to any of Whitney's topics since there are mean people everywhere posting many nusty things about her, even thou most of the comments comes from people who were and still are very passionate about her music and herself. I myself loved her, even thou I didn't follow her as much as I do with Celine, but she is one of my biggest inspirations and without any doubt, one of the best voices ever. She'll be sadly missed by every artist, fan and listeners in general.

[J-Man]

The vast, vast, majority of the posts on this topic have been hugely supportive of Whitney and her fans. Granted the last 5 or 6 pages have been focusing on the interview Celine gave, but mainly that was just people supporting and explaining the reason behind Celine's words. And obviously in a Celine forum, we are going to talk a lot about and support Celine. I'm sure most Whitney fans, of which I also class myself as being, would understand that. In my opinion I can't see why a WH fan reading this topic would be hurt by it. If anything I would feel it would help them to see that what Celine said, she said as someone who cared and misses Whitney and is frustrated at the senselessness of what befell her.

 

At any rate, linking to a Whitney topic is just a possible suggestion. We could also ask the admins to just select some of the words of condolence we have said on the forum and place them as part of a larger message to the WH community.

And thanks for the kind words Kev. You made me blush! and on Valentines day too!! Lol

Edited February 14, 2012 at 09:58 PM by J-Man

[Nikosn17]

I honestly don't get what's the big deal. What Celine said is the truth. If people can't deal with it it's their problem. I know that everyone is sad about what happened but let's not pretend like drugs didn't have anything to do with that. Celine was honest and I appreciate that and agree with what she said. And I think this should be a lesson learned for a lot of people.

[Dion-Mania!]

Here's an example of why Whitney was an inspiration to Celine......

 

 

Imagine Whitney was up there with the Diva Camp back in 1998. Wow, that would've been something!

[ferjaacu]

The vast, vast, majority of the posts on this topic have been hugely supportive of Whitney and her fans. Granted the last 5 or 6 pages have been focusing on the interview Celine gave, but mainly that was just people supporting and explaining the reason behind Celine's words. And obviously in a Celine forum, we are going to talk a lot about and support Celine. I'm sure most Whitney fans, of which I also class myself as being, would understand that. In my opinion I can't see why a WH fan reading this topic would be hurt by it. If anything I would feel it would help them to see that what Celine said, she said as someone who cared and misses Whitney and is frustrated at the senselessness of what befell her.

 

At any rate, linking to a Whitney topic is just a possible suggestion. We could also ask the admins to just select some of the words of condolence we have said on the forum and place them as part of a larger message to the WH community.

And thanks for the kind words Kev. You made me blush! and on Valentines day too!! Lol

 

I know, you're right in every single thing you've said here. I was mainly talking about the Whitney Houston's Official Topic in the Off Topic section...

But I loved your idea, every part of it. As a Whitney's fan myself too, I have found a lot of comfort, support, love and strength on this topic and on the words on many of my peers Celine's fans.

 

If there's something we have learned from Celine, Whitney and everybody that sings with and about love, is that we need to stay united and give love to everyone out there, and I think this idea of sending them a message from the forum would be really appreciated by Whitney's fans.

[Flaca]

If there's something we have learned from Celine, Whitney and everybody that sings with and about love, is that we need to stay united and give love to everyone out there, and I think this idea of sending them a message from the forum would be really appreciated by Whitney's fans.

 

I agree.

I like John's idea.

[Hilda]

I cant even believe this still about Whitney - her voice along with celines were my top voices ive ever heard. amazing and so many soooo many amazing songs. it wa sa true....I DONT BELIEVE YOU moment. and as for celines interview it was a classic Celine, 'TAKE A kAYAK' moment! haha i was watching it almost thinking....oh god stop now your not putting across what you want to say very well! haha and bless her she does do that in the heat of the moment clearly as its well documented with hurricane katrina as the primary example....she gets all in a tis and lets her emotions over run her and i think that results in the language barrier becoming more of a hindrance to her in how she is able to articulate herself...but no doubt yes like John says she was coming from the best possible place and no doubt she loved and cared for Whitney.

 

 

sad times.

[spunkransum]

Suposidley Whitney's family are not planning a public memorial. They site that the world had her for 20 plus years and it is there time to have closure. I agree with what they are saying, but at the same time I honestly think a public service is needed. Whitney was and will always be one of the three 90's voices. And most people want to say goodbye, don't think of money, tabloids, or anything like that. Fans want closure, and I think a personal memorial would be the best chance.

 

Granted, they tossed the idea about Michael Jackson's memorial service for a while and finally agreed on it, while I was not a very big Michael fan, his memorial was one of the most beautiful I had ever seen. It's about saying goodbye to a person you love, not a big fancy show.

 

Just my personal little thought guys.

[celine-rc]

I have read all the posts here and I see that we all agree. I think this is really, really good. The more people that are behind Céline, the better it is (well, it can't harm her for sure!).

I agree with what most people said about how she was probably misunderstood. Since english isn't her first language, with the many emotions, it probably made it harder for her to express herself. I think that she did a really good job though. I do also agree when people say that she wasn't critisizing Whitney in particular but the industry. This is not the first time is happens and unfortunatly, not the last. I'm really happy that Céline spoke her mind, it's great. I just find it disappointing that the media is doing such a thing with the interview.

I am so proud to be a Céline fan!!!!

[openthetelevision]

I agree.

I like John's idea.

I like this idea too!

[bruno_oliveira]

MUSIC BUSINESS >>>> THEY ONLY WHANT MONEY

 

I was searching on itunes for new things and i saw that tribute to whitney label

and my surprise is some company released like 8 albuns the very next day she passed away....

 

02/12/2012

 

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FOR MY SURPRISE THEY HAVE THE SAME TRACKLIST ALL OF THEM

 

THEY ARE JUST 8 DIFFERENT COVER ARTS....

[Claudette]

Celine is an Aries. We always speak our minds, sometimes without thinking twice.

 

As sad as Whitney's passing is, Celine spoke the truth. Unfortunately some people can't handle the truth, and the result is that she is now being bashed by the media and on the internet. But I'm proud of Celine for being one of the first people to say what many people were thinking but didn't want to say.

[Scramasboy]

If I can be honest, Celine didn't interview as Celine Dion the amazing international superstar! She interviewed as a shocked, angry fan. And especially when she spoke of Whitney, MJ, Elvis, Amy Whinehouse, etc. She sounded so angry, she said Why so many times. I feel what she is saying completely. Maybe she should have been more aware of what she was saying because people perceive her as the international superstar, but above all, of Elvis, Whitney and Michael especially, those were people she, all her life, spoke of admiring and loving. She's lost in them what we see in her. People don't realize that.

[Javito]

^^ Agree. And it's not only that we've lost Whitney 3 days ago, its that we lost also Michael Jackson, Amy Winehouse almost yesterday ... We are losing many HUGE names in a very short time frame

 

BTW, do we have some picture of Céline with Whitney? Not that we know of its existence, right?

Edited February 15, 2012 at 12:15 PM by Javito

[ferjaacu]

There's a guy here saying many bad things about Celine's interview, like that she was trying to get attention on her to sell more records and stuff, and that she's not talented and famous as Whitney and Mariah were/are... I really can't understand this people, but I've been defending Celine along with other fans and general people and we need your help !!! Please click on the link and help us !!!

 

I know we shouldn't be "fighting" to anyone, since we should be spreading love, but this guy just said so many lies and bad things about our Celine that I couldn't help it

[Loup_garou]

^^ Agree. And it's not only that we've lost Whitney 3 days ago, its that we lost also Michael Jackson, Amy Winehouse almost yesterday ... We are losing many HUGE names in a very short time frame

 

Agree, there's no way to sugarcoat any of what happened, and I guess this article sums it up, there's no mention of Celine, but the idea is there

 

“The real sad loss happened ten years ago,” Leo Braudy, author of “The Frenzy of Renown: Fame and Its History,” told TheWrap. “She was the walking wounded, but the press is not going to alienate her fans by writing that. So it becomes this mixed bag between weeping on the grave and dancing on the grave.”

 

http://www.thewrap.com/music/article/Whitn...id-details-5352

[jepoi]

There's a guy here saying many bad things about Celine's interview, like that she was trying to get attention on her to sell more records and stuff, and that she's not talented and famous as Whitney and Mariah were/are... I really can't understand this people, but I've been defending Celine along with other fans and general people and we need your help !!! Please click on the link and help us !!!

 

I know we shouldn't be "fighting" to anyone, since we should be spreading love, but this guy just said so many lies and bad things about our Celine that I couldn't help it

 

i did defend celine against the bashing of that troll! but i realized that since he's a troll then there was really no point to waste time on him. haha

[PatrickDion22]

Celine is an Aries. We always speak our minds, sometimes without thinking twice.

 

As sad as Whitney's passing is, Celine spoke the truth. Unfortunately some people can't handle the truth, and the result is that she is now being bashed by the media and on the internet. But I'm proud of Celine for being one of the first people to say what many people were thinking but didn't want to say.

 

 

I can totally relate (my birthday is March 22). All kidding aside, this isn't the first time that Celine's opinions have garnered her attention, and it won't be the last. The fact that she was simply saying what everyone else was thinking should be quite apparent to the media. However, I think that since Celine's always been closely compared to Whitney and the fact that she was blatantly candid to a news anchor on the nation's second-largest morning show maybe put some people off. I know she was speaking from the heart, but many other people don't know that about her. While drugs may have not directly caused Whitney's death, they certainly set the ball in motion. It's a damn shame, and Celine was simply expressing her anger, much like the rest of us.

Edited February 15, 2012 at 04:04 PM by PatrickDion22

[Peppercorn1991]

Let the fans Grieve. They want someone to blame and right now they don't want to blame their idol. So they find some type of joy in dissing Celine, someone who is very similar musically to Whitney. In away i can understand why they would be upset by what celine said, but at the end of the day the was RIGHT! she wasnt even pointing the finger, she was just telling the world what the industry is like, and to a point she perhaps showed some light on this.

 

Celine has always picked the safe way through her career, so i can understand why some people could feel celine has been upsetting , as the saying goes in the UK "little goody two shoes" which means someone who can never do anything wrong, you know the type of people who can be annoying because "i told you so" and they always make the right choices. I think some people have taken celines response like that.

 

When infact she was just telling the truth and through her anger and grief of her death expressing her emotions which she is entitled to do.

 

The subjects Celine was referring to can get her into trouble with the industry tho if she is not careful. Im 100% with celine, and so is everybody i know at uni, as this exact subject celine was talking about, is discussed regularly at uni, and we all are happy someone has stood up in the industry and spoke the truth. I myself am very proud of celine

 

kev x

[GoldenLeaf]

Whitney Houston Had Premonition About Death

 

Whitney Houston told friends she "really wanted to see Jesus" in the days before her death ... and claimed she had a feeling the end was near for her ... this according to several of Whitney's friends.

 

TMZ has learned ... Whitney had been very spiritual in her final days ... quoting the bible, singing hymns and engaging in intense conversations about Jesus Christ and the afterlife with her close friends and family members.

 

We're told .... on Friday , one day after she performed, "Yes Jesus Loves Me" at Tru nightclub in Hollywood, Whitney told one of her friends, "I'm gonna go see Jesus ... I want to see Jesus."

 

The next morning, hours before her death, Whitney was discussing a bible passage involving John the Baptist and Jesus ... when Houston flashed a big smile and remarked, "You know, he's so cool ... I really want to see that Jesus."

 

Another source tells us ... Whitney had been telling friends she "felt like her time was coming" ... and wanted to make sure she spent her time praising her lord and savior whenever she could.

 

Unfortunately, Whitney's premonition came true.

 

Update

 

We're told the bible passages Whitney was quoting on the morning of her death were Matthew 3:13 through 17 ... referencing the baptism of Jesus. The passage goes:

 

Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. But John tried to deter him, saying, “I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?”

 

Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.” Then John consented.

 

As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/15/whitney-hous...th-jesus-bible/

 

Either she committed suicide either it's a weird coincidence.

Edited February 15, 2012 at 04:38 PM by Calypso

[Celinenvegas]

I still remember Celine sitting on the floor with Courtney Love watching Whitney from backstage on the World Music Awards. She was really pulling for her to be back at the top of her game again. On that night, Celine was a fan with the rest of us Whitney fans. It was a nice moment.

[GoldenLeaf]

Let the fans Grieve. They want someone to blame and right now they don't want to blame their idol. So they find some type of joy in dissing Celine, someone who is very similar musically to Whitney.

They should be dissing instead that hypocrite of Bobby Brown with his annoying ''I Love You Whitney'' comments. Don't they remember that this man was the main person behind Whitney's troubles?

[fyoung98]

I don't know if this was mentioned, sorry if it's a repeated post. I think much of the issue with Celine's comments were derived from the idea that she was asked to discuss what Whitney's music meant to her when she was growing up. But then she went into speculative discussion of what may have killed her. As we all know, Celine gets caught up when she's talking and the actual topic kind of got away from her. I agree with what she said, but she didnt really answer the question that was posed to her.

I agree that drugs are not known to be the cause of death, however as someone else mentioned, the media has been putting it out there as if it were proven that drugs killed her.

I also agree with many of you, Celine adored Whitney and I really belive she is heartbroken over her death. She expressed the sentiments of many about the music industry. If i'm not mistaken, Chaka khan said it best when she called the music industry "demonic" and she in so many words blasted Clive Davis for having that party while her body was still in the building.

[LVCeline]

In addiction situations, it's very easy to blame someone else for the problem. Bobby Brown wasn't the reason for Whitney's troubles and he wasn't responsible for her. She made her own decisions. Ultimately it was all up to her. Naturally his presence and his addictions didn't help her at all, but we can't keep blaming Bobby for her problems. Whitney was an adult and responsible for her own actions. As much as I dislike the idea of Bobby Brown, it's not fair to blame him.

[Bellamy]

Wouldn't it be a nice idea if Vic or Belamy, as the official representatives of this forum, could send a message of condolence on our behalf to all the fans on our sister fan site letting them know that we are thinking of them at this difficult time in their community (is classic whitney the biggest one on the web?) Maybe we could also include a link to this or one of the other Whitney topics, so they can see that they are not alone. It would be comforting, if the situation was reversed, to see that another fan forum was thinking about us.

 

What do ye think?

I think we did that for MJ community before.