celine_026 Posted January 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM ^^ That video confirms she lipped THLAL, you can see it clearly in several moments of the song like 1:48, where she wasn't following what the playback was singing Not until today did I gave credit to the lipping thing, after all the discussion that has been going on in this forum over the last years. It's not that I didn't want to "see" it, but I was incapable of noticing where she actually lipped and where she was actually singing. But I was so excited to see her performing this song, after 13 years of singing always the same songs, and she comes with a playback?? So disappointed. I can't understand WHERE'S the need for her to do this when she's way capable of singing live whatever she wants Now I don't know when she's cheating us and when she's actually singing live LOL at from 1:50 is just disgraceful LOL. I mean, her voice was AWESOME for the night,so why not sing this live? This is actually the first time after the power of love incident on the Metropolis that I have seen her go so wrong with a lip on stage.They should have foreseen it. In a festival, the audio can have glitches and all,cause it's too many artists and bands. Really sad thing. They shouldn't have done it. Not when her voice is that ok at the time. I bet it ended up on tv with people saying it was lipped; if this was here in Brazilshe would have some people hatting her forever lol. Quote http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1098/power01eq1.jpg
celine_026 Posted January 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM This blindness is ridiculous, I don't have the proper ear to difference playback or not in this cases, but if you think she lipped and you defend it, it is ridiculous, it is an INSULT to the audience there. It's unbeliveable that an artist in a music festival doing playback... too INSULTING... I hope, I can't believe she has done it, if it is true, I wouldn't pay to a concert even is she plays right here in my home... well. in my last post you have the answer. Guess she wont be seeing your money any time soon haha Quote http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1098/power01eq1.jpg
Javito Posted January 29, 2012 at 01:25 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 01:25 PM (edited) Edit: Nevermind found it. Clearly used to lipping it. I wonder who got it for fogetting to bring her playback tape. Like Stevo said, it is like they were not properly prepared for this concert. That's what happens when you're used to giving hundreds of concerts per year and singing always the same songs exactly the same way, the result is that the passion is gone . The incredible oversuse of her voice and abuse of concerts during 2003-2007 has its consequences. There are no surprises. It's always mechanical, almost robotic. It's hard to rediscover the excitement today. I'm sure she wasn't even nervous for this event . Edited January 29, 2012 at 01:29 PM by Javito Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Davey84 Posted January 29, 2012 at 01:50 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 01:50 PM i think she was really nervous for this concert, cos it's out of her comfort zone... I can't say I'm not a bit disappointed by the concert. The song choses were great, Céline looked awesome, but lipping THLAL was a big NO NO NO... I think they really need to rethink all this lipping... it's getting out of hand now...like said they are too easy and careless with it nowadays... IMO there are a few options: 1 sing everything live2 alter the songs, so there are less hard notes so everything is live3 scrap the lipped songs for songs that are fun and new and easier to sing Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
Celine Fan 77 Posted January 29, 2012 at 01:51 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 01:51 PM (edited) Regardless the little problem she had during Treat Her Like A Lady, overall I think it was an amazing concert. But please, somebody's gotta have the remaining videos: *I Drove All Night*It's All Coming Back To Me Now // The Power Of Love*Mr. Paganini*The Reason*Goldfinger // Nobody Does It Better // Live And Let Die*The Prayer*Beauty and the Beast*At Seventeen*Pour Que Tu M'aimes Encore So far, we have videos for: *Speech*Where Does My Heart Beat Now*Because You Loved Me*Treat Her Like A Lady*I'm Alive [Remix]*All By Myself*Love Can Move Mountains*River Deep, Mountain High*My Heart Will Go On I'm sure the rest of the setlist was recorded, for sure! Edited January 29, 2012 at 01:52 PM by Celine Fan 77 Quote Tournée Européenne in Paris (December 1, 2013)Céline Dion Live 2016 in Antwerp (June 20, 2016)Céline Dion Live 2017 in Birmingham (July 27, 2017)
ferjaacu Posted January 29, 2012 at 01:57 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 01:57 PM (edited) ^^^ I also want to see those vids !!! Edited January 29, 2012 at 01:58 PM by ferjaacu Quote http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/5786913948_369265dbeb_m.jpg FERLO
Shamrock_1982 Posted January 29, 2012 at 02:27 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 02:27 PM (edited) Really annoyed she lipped THLAL and the crowd was obviously to loud hence her signalling to turn the track up in her ear, but its obvious towards the end that she just couldn't hear the track so turned her mic on to sing over the track... really disappointed by this as it was the thing I was most looking forward to.She didn't have to sing this song but she or Rene obviously made that decision, and to have Diana King there and for her then to mime it when Diana sung/rapped live, was such a bad mistake and bad taste and hopefully its a lesson learned the hard way. She looked great though, and it was great to hear IA and that she sung this live! Edited January 29, 2012 at 02:43 PM by Shamrock29 Quote
pepillo90 Posted January 29, 2012 at 02:31 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 02:31 PM I really liked the ending of I'm Alive and there are a few other moments that were great, but I just found her completely lost and only if she was excited it was because the crowd was on fire and I guess she was grateful for that, but using playback you can't show how excited you're, you're just f***** miming! I really think Celine, Rene & her team need to reconsider all of this. How I wish that someone going to Vegas was brave enough to shout instead of "I love you Celine" something like "Stop lipping and cheating!"... There's another way to let them know our disappointment... A trending topic like #CelineDionLippingInJamaica or something like this... Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v622/pepillo90/swingit.jpg ► My Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/arts_yard/
Miguel&Justin Posted January 29, 2012 at 02:41 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 02:41 PM i loved everything about this event, i wont read any of the posts here because im SURE people are complaining about the odd playback things that went on during treat her like a lady? But i dont blame her obviously she can sing harder songs than that, she was probably nervous singing a song she hasnt sang for so long. love her!!! Quote http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/269401_446529995393479_428549633_n.jpg
maceta_biloxi Posted January 29, 2012 at 02:55 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 02:55 PM ^Not the first time, won't be the last time! I agree! Regardless the little problem she had during Treat Her Like A Lady, overall I think it was an amazing concert. But please, somebody's gotta have the remaining videos: *I Drove All Night*It's All Coming Back To Me Now // The Power Of Love*Mr. Paganini*The Reason*Goldfinger // Nobody Does It Better // Live And Let Die*The Prayer*Beauty and the Beast*At Seventeen*Pour Que Tu M'aimes Encore So far, we have videos for: *Speech*Where Does My Heart Beat Now*Because You Loved Me*Treat Her Like A Lady*I'm Alive [Remix]*All By Myself*Love Can Move Mountains*River Deep, Mountain High*My Heart Will Go OnI'm sure the rest of the setlist was recorded, for sure! Where's the RDMH link??? Quote Do What You Want But Harm No One http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs939.snc4/73202_10150111343007542_831827541_7586213_4279368_n.jpg...Looking Alike!?
fred Posted January 29, 2012 at 02:59 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 02:59 PM Gee, I jump some pages now and try to catch up from the other direction instead (been behind half the thread got frustrating) So I start with reading the lipping - sad, but I must see the vids before continuing commenting on that. Saw THLAL and I must say - regardless of the lipping issue - that this version when it comes to arrangements is FAR better than the original. You see the song is actully good now. The dorkiness is hidden by the wonderful cool brasses and that gives it all a funky souly sound wich is incredible!! If done like this I actually welcom it being a part of the Vegas show. It sounds really good!!! Well done on the arrangements! I must say I am chocked and pleasently surprised. Now to more video watching. And thanks to everyone who makes these videos avalible!! /fred Quote Peace and love to all.
Jeff Abbott Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:16 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:16 PM (edited) I don't know how Celine does that but she looks so much younger than she was in her 30s. Edited January 29, 2012 at 04:06 PM by Thomas Quote
celinemaniacaik Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:19 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:19 PM It was going good and BOOM disater, no li sunc 4 celine, neverthe less she was great! Quote http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwk66t4rhm1r2j3uro1_500.jpg Follow Me On TUMBLR: Celinedion4ever
Claudette Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:20 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:20 PM (edited) Oooookay, seriously, what the hell does Diana have on her feet? Socks with flip-flops? Edited January 29, 2012 at 03:31 PM by Claudette Quote http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af51/ClaudetteRobinson/esme.jpg
Celine Fan 77 Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:26 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:26 PM Quote Tournée Européenne in Paris (December 1, 2013)Céline Dion Live 2016 in Antwerp (June 20, 2016)Céline Dion Live 2017 in Birmingham (July 27, 2017)
fred Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:27 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:27 PM Another video just posted on youtube I got shiveres when I heard the audience sing along to WHMHBN. So nice. So welcomed to have some tracks not performed in a looooong time performed. Doesn't this show that the audience of her concerts can like more songs than just BYLM/MHWGO?! Like the arrangements on IA. Glad they always keep this song frech. Whish they did that with ALL her songs. LCMM has great arrengements (really liked the TC WT ones, these are the same?) but I get really stressed by Céline's singing. She spits the lyrics out as if she's in a tremendeus hurry. One thing I don't get though is why every single song has to have the highest notes possible all the time. I rather have her lower the notes and do it all live. Besides it will bring a better feel to her concerts. What good does it do to have those hights if ever single song is like that? Then there's no neuances. All high. And all that leaves you with is a headache and soar ears and emotional turmoil. /fred Quote Peace and love to all.
unicorn Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:29 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:29 PM LOL at from 1:50 is just disgraceful LOL. I mean, her voice was AWESOME for the night,so why not sing this live? This is actually the first time after the power of love incident on the Metropolis that I have seen her go so wrong with a lip on stage.They should have foreseen it. In a festival, the audio can have glitches and all,cause it's too many artists and bands. Really sad thing. They shouldn't have done it. Not when her voice is that ok at the time. I bet it ended up on tv with people saying it was lipped; if this was here in Brazilshe would have some people hatting her forever lol. We can hear that she is singing some parts live, THLAL, you can hear her at 3:25 whe her voice go higher.And u can see that Celine make signs that she couldnt hear her voice at 00:14 , etc Quote Visit My Website
artistman2007 Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:52 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 03:52 PM I have to admit that her make up is really bad Quote
MTJ Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:06 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:06 PM Isn't it possibly, or even likely, that when she made that signal to the audio technicians they turned on the pre-recorded vocals? I'm sure some artists don't feel comfortable continuing when they loose audio. Unfortunately for Celine, instead of just moving her lips when she lost audio and they turned on the backing, she kept singing . . . making it sound fake. Or maybe the backing track was on the whole time. Quote
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celine_026 Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:08 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:08 PM We can hear that she is singing some parts live, THLAL, you can hear her at 3:25 whe her voice go higher.And u can see that Celine make signs that she couldnt hear her voice at 00:14 , etc she started singing cause she knew it went downhill... Quote http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1098/power01eq1.jpg
Your_Su_Phu Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:12 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:12 PM (edited) First of all thank you so much for the videos. She looks great and i'm glad we got the chance to see it after the whole streaming issue. And see how the worldwide media are suddenly interested in her when she steps out of Vegas? I would LOVE to say she sounded great but the line between fact and fiction has once and for all became too blurred. It's got the point where you honestly just don't know if Celine's going to sing or mime. The reality is Celine and her whole team do this because they can - they are getting away with it! Over the years there has been next to NO controversy about the issue and whenever it has come up it has been quickly dealt with by a press release. They have been VERY clever changing or re-recording vocals whenever the slightest hint they are being found out comes up. Celine and her team are being paid MILLIONS of dollars to perform to backing tracks. If you could go to your work and get away with doing half your job and still get paid wouldn't you go for the easy option as well? This is the situation they find themselves in. Nobody has ever questioned what they do, so they keep doing it! As awful as it may sound the reality is this will keep happening until Celine finds herself in the worldwide news much like Ashlee Simpson did after her SNL scandal or Britney Spears did during the Austrailian leg or her world tour. The difference being nobody really expects much from those performers, for Celine the expectations are much much higher and such news would hurt her much more. Would the Coloseum continue selling out 4000 tickets every night if the casual fans knew in reality a high percentage of the show would actually be a CD they were hearing? As much as it would pain us as Celine fans to see the truth coming out and the bad publicity it would attract sadly unless this awful con is exposed it will keep happening! We'll keep getting to the next live album or live dvd or world tour wondering what "playback version" we are getting. So yeah Celine sounded good, or at least the CD did. I wonder what Diana King thought about what was going on during their performance? The majority of singers in the industry lipsynch SOMETIMES. and honestly, i think that's fine. the issue here is celine lipsynchs way too often and unnecessarily as well Edited January 29, 2012 at 04:15 PM by Your_Su_Phu Quote
Your_Su_Phu Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:15 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:15 PM it's so funny, I don't mean to dismiss everyone's disappointment at her lipping, but I guess I've become so complacent with "the way things are" that it doesn't even matter to me anymore haha. I just come for the goodies (clips, pics) Quote
Matias Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:33 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:33 PM (edited) I'm glad I am not the only one who thinks most of the show was a joke, don't get me wrong, I've been a fan for 15 years, I love her to death, I love Celine the person so much, but the performer...mmmmmI now we all want the 1996 Celine, but Celine evolved (for the better or for the worse) but come on! she was invited to a great festival, a place she never visited before and while I watch the clips she looks like she wants to flee the hell out of there! she looks annoyed almost!THLAL was an insult...Is it her fault? her managment? I don't know....but she is getting lazy only because she want to save her voice to Vegas or to her new CD...well don't do a concert then...jeez!This was a great opportunity to show herself outside vegas since March....and she didn't deliver AT ALL Blame the jetlag, blame the kids, blame the weather whatever, I know she is a mom, a wife, a woman, a person, but she is also a singer, people espect her to sing, and she used a recording from 1998 that she didn't even remembered!! Enogh saying... Edited January 29, 2012 at 04:37 PM by Matias Quote http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maic6m257V1rbfceqo2_250.gif"No no, put it back..."
Alex_Incognito Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:34 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:34 PM (edited) it's so funny, I don't mean to dismiss everyone's disappointment at her lipping, but I guess I've become so complacent with "the way things are" that it doesn't even matter to me anymore haha. I just come for the goodies (clips, pics) I'm the same exact way now. I accepted that Madonna and Britney Spear lips sync years ago...but not Celine. (though in recent years the songs they lip has gone down in numbers, while Celine's has gone up!!!). Granted, Celine's IS known for her voice. That's it. And we're getting the pleasure of hearing her voice form 14 years ago lol. I don't think Celine and Rene anticipated that youtube would uncover this fact brutally. Boy, there's definitely not a good vibe from fans in these posts anymore. It really breaks my heart to read the major disappointment of some fans, but I realize the disappointment. Edited January 29, 2012 at 04:39 PM by Alex_Incognito Quote "People pay 20-25 dollars to see you."- Céline Dion, 1990
ladylindsey Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:38 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:38 PM (edited) I don't post here very often anymore, because of this reason, but I feel compelled to say some things that I'm sure I've said before a million times because this is my HERO (and not just me, even some of you debbie downers) you are disrespecting. Yes we are all entitled to an opinion- that is the function of a forum, but COME ON. Don't disrespect her like this. She left home and her children to an unknown place and took a risk at this festival and made history, sang her heart out, yes SANG, danced her little short skirted booty off, in the heat and humidity when all she was probably thinking about was her babies, wore herself out then flew home. Would you have the strength and drive to do that? Would you put everything aside and give your all? She doesn't have to do any of this. The reason she is a legend is because she works for it. Hard. There are a million lessons we can learn from her perseverance. I really couldn't do it. It's amazing how much she gives and gives and unbelievable how much you complain and complain. Be grateful!!! Be careful of what you say, because she reads these forums. I'd hate for her to read what you've written because truly, most of us appreciate all of her hard work and SINGING that she does. I really dont care if you make fun of me or rip me apart bc it's really predictable andddd lame. I'd rather you take out your negativity on me than her anyway. Edited January 29, 2012 at 04:42 PM by ladylindsey Quote
Matias Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:40 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:40 PM (edited) I'm the same exact way now. I accepted that Madonna and Britney Spear lips sync years ago (though in recent years the songs they lip has gone down in numbers, while Celine's has gone up!!!). Granted, Celine's IS known for her voice. That's it. And we're getting the pleasure of hearing her voice form 14 years ago lol. I don't think Celine and Rene anticipated that youtube would uncover this fact brutally. Boy, there's definitely not a good vibe from fans in these posts anymore. I never mind when she she used a playback tape, because she is such an amazing performer that even when she used a tape, her stage presence was as good as alive performance, she did a great balance...this show was a joke, not she only playbacked but she didn't leran it and her stage presence wasn't there,...she left it at the hotel Edited January 29, 2012 at 04:41 PM by Matias Quote http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maic6m257V1rbfceqo2_250.gif"No no, put it back..."
fred Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:42 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:42 PM Yes, I've too been numb by the lipping issue for so long now. I have NEVER liked it. And I think Tyler has brought up some really good points so there's no need for me to repeat those. I don't approve of her lipping, and I dislike the fact the way the setllists for her world tour turned out. That's why I didn't waste money to go to her concert here. That was a choice. I keep looking away, looking the other way about all this ridiculous lipping, and only turn up for the rare stuff... new performances... A singer should sing. If a song aint fun to sing, don't sing it for another thousand times, let it rest. If your voice is strained from the high notes, lower the notes, don't do a complete concert with only high notes... The high notes are more appreciated if they aren't in every second of the show. I know she looked great here. But I'd rather have her look like crap if that meant I'd get to hear heartfelt LIVE performances. /fred Quote Peace and love to all.
Alex_Incognito Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:44 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:44 PM (edited) Lindsey, you are right about some of the disrespect that SOME fans have been doing, but you are wrong in saying that she SINGS all of her songs. Open your ears. Surely you've listened to Au cœur du stade enough times to recognize that they are the SAME vocals. It goes beyond being a mother. People paid money to see and HEAR 2012 Celine Dion. Not 1998 Celine Dion. As an artist she still needs to fill those shoes, and we know she's MORE than capable. She just doesn't. I want 1981-1993 Celine back where she put ALL of her emotion in her songs and you could FEEL it. Edited January 29, 2012 at 04:46 PM by Alex_Incognito Quote "People pay 20-25 dollars to see you."- Céline Dion, 1990
Claudette Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:45 PM Posted January 29, 2012 at 04:45 PM (edited) Shoot me now! I think some fans need to clean their ears and change their playback tapes because it is getting really old. Yes, there is a lot of negativity lately on this forum. But maybe there is a good reason for it. If Celine delivers, none of us would be posting all these negative things. I'll be the first to praise Celine if she really deserves it. Unfortunately she did not deliver at this festival. Edit: You are 100% right, Alex. Edited January 29, 2012 at 04:48 PM by Claudette Quote http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af51/ClaudetteRobinson/esme.jpg
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