New English Album - "Water and a Flame" (Pre-Release Thread Part 1)

January 11, 2012 at 01:58 PM

Poor Celine's got enough on her plate with the family and the shows she don't have time to sit and watch tv!

At least she is happy!

January 11, 2012 at 02:11 PM

Excuse me?! At this point in Celine's extraordinary music career with many numerous awards and accolades in recognition of her worldwide success for best albums and (or) singles from all over the world, our queen of everything with "World Best Selling Female Recording Artist" sticker doesn't really need to prove her talent. Just my two cents...

Sorry but you got it the wrong way. What I meant in my post is that I hope Celine records an album in which every song will be a reflection of her extraordinary talent and vocal technique, not that she has to prove to anyone she has talent herself. I thought it was obvious, but ok.

Edited January 11, 2012 at 02:24 PM by Jeff Abbott

January 11, 2012 at 02:34 PM

Interesting article. I think the author is right, if they manage things properly Celine could have a very good year.

Will Celine Dion be even more popular in 2012?

Celine Dion has been in the business for decades, with hits like "Because You Loved Me" in 1996 and "A New Day Has Come" in 2002. But will Dion be more popular than ever in 2012?

At 43 years old, Dion is not slowing down. With a lineup of exciting Dion-centric projects in the works, it seems the Canadian singer may have her hottest year yet. Here's why: Dion will be releasing two new albums this year. The Canuck superstar is set to release an English album in April and a French album in October. Rene Angelil, Dion's husband and manager, told the Montreal Gazette that the English album will include Dion's take on Journey's "Open Arms" and Janis Ian's "At Seventeen."

"Beauty and the Beast" and "Titanic" are returning to theatres in 3-D this year, and both feature the vocals of Ms. Dion. Dion sang the title track on the Disney flick, earning a Grammy Award for Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal. The song also won an Academy Award for Original Song. And, in the 1997 Leonardo DiCaprio/Kate Winslet picture, "Titanic," Dion sang the tear-jerker "My Heart Will Go On," which also won an Oscar for Original Song.

She's in the press. Dion must have something up her sleeve to motivate her to do interviews. The star was featured in Vanity Fair magazine's "Out to Lunch" section in January, discussing her Quebec upbringing and shoe obsession. While she's always been famous, she's not frequently featured in the press, which means some surprises must be in store for 2012.

The Las Vegas Sun reports that Dion is in negotiations to extend her contract at Caesars Palace. Dion has been performing in Vegas since 2003, and has no plans to leave the spotlight in the near future -- which means more fans get a chance to see their idol up close!

She is worshipped by fans around the world. Dion has some hard-core fans, and there's even a play about it! "Bliss," which has run in Australia, Scotland, and Switzerland, will now play in Canada. It is about Walmart employees who are devoted to the diva, and who view her as a type of goddess. With a play about the obsession of her fans, how could Dion ever go out of style?

http://ca.omg.yahoo.com/blogs/north-stars/...-201304794.html

January 11, 2012 at 02:37 PM

EFE: You returned with a residency-show in Las Vegas, after performing there between 2003 and 2007 with A New Day.... The concerts started again in 2011 for 3 years, but there've been rumors that you're thinking of extending your contract in Sim City, for how long?

Celine: I don't really know. I think Caesar's Palace offers us an incredible opportunity to present the best show possible to the fans and putting the best of our talent every night. I love going on tour, but at the same time it's great to have stability and being onstage at the Colosseum, it's a wonderful place to perform and I hope to spend more time there. I don't know if they want me to stay for a longer time, but I certainly hope so.

EFE: It's been almost five years since you released you latest studio album, are you preparing something new?

Celine: Yes, I'm working on a new French album and also on a new English album. I'm quite not sure when they'll be out, but I have already started to record. They'll probably be ready for next summer.

EFE: And will there be another world tour to promote the albums?

Celine: No. I'll be recording and performing at the Colosseum in Las Vegas. I might do some sporadic things for some television shows but no, I'm definitely not going on a world tour.

I was thinking that Caesars want Céline and she decided if yes or no, now it seems that Céline and René want to be in Vegas longer time and they hope for positive answer from Caesars Palace.

And her NO to world tour for promoting albums is logical as she is staying in Vegas, but I still hope for some small tour to promote at least her french album, so maybe one day it become true.

January 11, 2012 at 02:52 PM

how this woman is incredible, she even doesn't knows when is suppose to release an album

and I think it is very strange. :whistling: I mean Celine really leaves every aspect of her professional career to Rene (apart from singing of course).

Edited January 11, 2012 at 02:52 PM by Jeff Abbott

January 11, 2012 at 03:19 PM

Thank you so much for posting the interview. When is summer???

When we have Winter, so June, July and August.

January 11, 2012 at 04:07 PM

After reading that interview, i dont know why but i felt celine was very negative with every question asking about her career! :/

January 11, 2012 at 04:44 PM

After reading that interview, i dont know why but i felt celine was very negative with every question asking about her career! :/

I was thinking the same as I was translating the interview, but then I imagined Celine talking and saying the words from the interview in her optimistic way, haha.

January 11, 2012 at 05:18 PM

Okay I just read about 10 posts or more since I last posted and I can feel some 'negative, energy....

Anyway all we can do is hope and pray. I mean there have been some GREAT songs in her career and it has been approx 5 years since she released an album so they might put more hard work iin2 it. I hope so. As far as not knowing the release date, I think she leaves all that to Rene and her team. I mean I know I've been complaining as well but lets be a bit more supportive and understanding.

January 11, 2012 at 05:44 PM

I don't think it's negative. I guess it's how you look at it. It seems this interview was Celine without Rene. She has said before that she doesn't know all of the information on what she's doing, and she answered her questions that way.

The whole non-tour question was a no-brainer and the promotion of the albums will be as light as when she was last in Vegas.

January 11, 2012 at 06:26 PM

I don't think she was exactly negative in her answers, but she is sparing with words when it comes to talking about her career, definetly! I find it annoying that after almost 5 years asking her about the new album, she can't give any title of a song, nor the name of a producer/songwriter of her new material :ermm:

Also notice that this (spanish?) interview was mainly asking aspects and details of her past albums, songs and the new albums, but there were barely family oriented questions... probably she would have gone on talking for hours if these were the questions I'm afraid -_-

Edited January 11, 2012 at 06:27 PM by Javito

January 11, 2012 at 08:52 PM

this interview came over on me like - as if she did not want to answer the questions. Esspecially about the new cd's. She did not give any hint about the style or being excited about the project. To me it came over it is just something she HAS to do. And the rest is all about Vegas and that it is for the fans. :hmm: .. And you know what my opinion is about that :whistling: she even admits she rather stays there for the rest of the time.

And probably somewhere before summer she said about the release. She does not know and she does not want to answer clearly and for her it does not have much priority... :mellow:

I wonder what she would have answered if they asked her questions about her babies and being a mother or how well the dog is doing... :cry:

Edited January 11, 2012 at 09:00 PM by browseceline

January 11, 2012 at 08:56 PM

Please don't let Open Arms be the opening single. It will just get compared to Mariah's epic version and I want to see her really sing a song - Open Arms is the easiest song she's ever had to sing.

Epic? :sick:

To avoid starting a big drama-filled argument, I'll hold my tongue on all the positive Mariah comments. :rolleyes:

Edited January 11, 2012 at 09:01 PM by CelineAndRene

January 11, 2012 at 09:05 PM

I agree mariah is not what she once was... but she had some great songs, and this one was definately one of her best.

among her performances of this song listen and watch this version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlS9eOfrHs...feature=related

A cover is okay as long as the cover is a song been done many many years ago or a singer who does not perform anymore, or who has deceased.. but Mariah is still alive and kicking, and although not at her top anymore, this song is not that old. I did not know the original was from Journey and I think most people know Mariah's version..

Not saying that Celine's version is bad, not at all, but Mariah's is my favorite version since that is when I heard the song for the first time and you can't denie that when you know the original version - people always will start comparing the versions with each other

Edited January 11, 2012 at 09:09 PM by browseceline

January 11, 2012 at 09:06 PM

Excuse me?! At this point in Celine's extraordinary music career with many numerous awards and accolades in recognition of her worldwide success for best albums and (or) singles from all over the world, our queen of everything with "World Best Selling Female Recording Artist" sticker doesn't really need to prove her talent. Just my two cents...

Are you freaking kidding me? I wish I could put into words how much I disagree with this. To be perfectly honest, it's the biggest load of crap I've read on here. This kind of thinking infuriates me beyond words and pisses me off to no extreme.

Why do people think that her past is ALL that matters? HELLO, as long as she still has a career there is still SOMETHING to PROVE. All of this bullsh!t about "nothing left to prove" , excuse me, but anyone who believes that needs to sit their @ss down and listen up. There is a HELL OF A LOT left to prove out there.

And to end this, perhaps the reason why Celine's career has been on a downward spiral after Titanic and since having kids is that maybe she feels this way to - maybe she feels that she has nothing to prove and has done it all. Perhaps she has listened to that kind of crap and believes it herself. Why bother trying if you've done it all? Reality is that she hasn't done it all, or even close to it. There is SO MUCH more for her to prove. So many genres of music untackled, so many different areas within the industry to do, etc.

*rant over*

January 11, 2012 at 09:13 PM

this interview came over on me like - as if she did not want to answer the questions. Esspecially about the new cd's. She did not give any hint about the style or being excited about the project. To me it came over it is just something she HAS to do. And the rest is all about Vegas and that it is for the fans. .. And you know what my opinion is about that she even admits she rather stays there for the rest of the time.
And probably somewhere before summer she said about the release. She does not know and she does not want to answer clearly and for her it does not have much priority...
I wonder what she would have answered if they asked her questions about her babies and being a mother or how well the dog is doing...

Don't know about you guys but I hope that by saying summer she in fact meant April and it was only a slip of the tongue. :msn-wink:

January 11, 2012 at 09:13 PM

Are you freaking kidding me? I wish I could put into words how much I disagree with this. To be perfectly honest, it's the biggest load of crap I've read on here. This kind of thinking infuriates me beyond words and pisses me off to no extreme.

Why do people think that her past is ALL that matters? HELLO, as long as she still has a career there is still SOMETHING to PROVE. All of this bullsh!t about "nothing left to prove" , excuse me, but anyone who believes that needs to sit their @ss down and listen up. There is a HELL OF A LOT left to prove out there.

And to end this, perhaps the reason why Celine's career has been on a downward spiral after Titanic and since having kids is that maybe she feels this way to - maybe she feels that she has nothing to prove and has done it all. Perhaps she has listened to that kind of crap and believes it herself. Why bother trying if you've done it all? Reality is that she hasn't done it all, or even close to it. There is SO MUCH more for her to prove. So many genres of music untackled, so many different areas within the industry to do, etc.

*rant over*

AMEN! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

January 11, 2012 at 09:14 PM

Are you freaking kidding me? I wish I could put into words how much I disagree with this. To be perfectly honest, it's the biggest load of crap I've read on here. This kind of thinking infuriates me beyond words and pisses me off to no extreme.

Why do people think that her past is ALL that matters? HELLO, as long as she still has a career there is still SOMETHING to PROVE. All of this bullsh!t about "nothing left to prove" , excuse me, but anyone who believes that needs to sit their @ss down and listen up. There is a HELL OF A LOT left to prove out there.

And to end this, perhaps the reason why Celine's career has been on a downward spiral after Titanic and since having kids is that maybe she feels this way to - maybe she feels that she has nothing to prove and has done it all. Perhaps she has listened to that kind of crap and believes it herself. Why bother trying if you've done it all? Reality is that she hasn't done it all, or even close to it. There is SO MUCH more for her to prove. So many genres of music untackled, so many different areas within the industry to do, etc.

*rant over*

:notworthy:

January 11, 2012 at 09:15 PM

Are you freaking kidding me? I wish I could put into words how much I disagree with this. To be perfectly honest, it's the biggest load of crap I've read on here. This kind of thinking infuriates me beyond words and pisses me off to no extreme.

Why do people think that her past is ALL that matters? HELLO, as long as she still has a career there is still SOMETHING to PROVE. All of this bullsh!t about "nothing left to prove" , excuse me, but anyone who believes that needs to sit their @ss down and listen up. There is a HELL OF A LOT left to prove out there.

And to end this, perhaps the reason why Celine's career has been on a downward spiral after Titanic and since having kids is that maybe she feels this way to - maybe she feels that she has nothing to prove and has done it all. Perhaps she has listened to that kind of crap and believes it herself. Why bother trying if you've done it all? Reality is that she hasn't done it all, or even close to it. There is SO MUCH more for her to prove. So many genres of music untackled, so many different areas within the industry to do, etc.

*rant over*

The fans who believe that Celine has nothing to prove believe this because Celine said it herself.

Personally, I think Celine could really stretch herself into all sorts of new avenues. She seems to think she's done it all musically. And I can't blame her for feeling that way. Look at her musical cannon stretching back to the early 80s. But she could still go in new directions, particularly in her English career. Not to mention, landing a really smart film role (in French) could be a genius move if done very carefully.

"A New Day…" is the most daring thing she's done since her comeback in 2002. It was a sexy, risky show -- that ultimately culminated in a more Celine-esque show. She still takes risks. And that's incredibly important for a career's longevity.

Edited January 11, 2012 at 09:16 PM by smw

January 11, 2012 at 09:15 PM

Don't know about you guys but I hope that by saying summer she in fact meant April and it was only a slip of the tongue.

she clearly did not care.. it sounded to me that someone asked her an inappropiate question and she was in a hurry and wanted to walk to her car ( of course i did not see the real circumstances) She sounded like.. ow yes two albums.. recording them.. when? ..probably around summer ( or later, she did not know but if it was later she would not be bothered)

Edited January 11, 2012 at 09:17 PM by browseceline

January 11, 2012 at 09:18 PM

I agree mariah is not what she once was... but she had some great songs, and this one was definately one of her best.
among her performances of this song listen and watch this version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlS9eOfrHs...feature=related

A cover is okay as long as the cover is a song been done many many years ago or a singer who does not perform anymore, or who has deceased.. but Mariah is still alive and kicking, and although not at her top anymore, this song is not that old. I did not know the original was from Journey and I think most people know Mariah's version..
Not saying that Celine's version is bad, not at all, but Mariah's is my favorite version since that is when I heard the song for the first time and you can't denie that when you know the original version - people always will start comparing the versions with each other

Yeah I mean Mariah did that song when her voice was really strong and not all auto-tuned so people would definitely compare their versions (if Celine does release that as a single).

I hope she releases an unknown/her own song as a single. To get it on the popular radio stations might be a challenge though.

January 11, 2012 at 09:28 PM

Don't know about you guys but I hope that by saying summer she in fact meant April and it was only a slip of the tongue.

I think that too... :yes:

January 11, 2012 at 09:30 PM

she clearly did not care.. it sounded to me that someone asked her an inappropiate question and she was in a hurry and wanted to walk to her car ( of course i did not see the real circumstances) She sounded like.. ow yes two albums.. recording them.. when? ..probably around summer ( or later, she did not know but if it was later she would not be bothered)

I'm glad she didn't respond with hmmm ALBUMS? WHAT ALBUMS?

January 11, 2012 at 09:35 PM

About the article, I don't think it was any way negative, or that she was avoiding answering to some questions. I think she answered quite straightly that she is indeed making new albums and that she isn't gonna go on a new world tour, at least in any time soon. I think it was a very usual interview.

Poor Celine's got enough on her plate with the family and the shows she don't have time to sit and watch tv! At least she is happy!

Yeah, that's what got my attention too. Hope she has time to at least sometimes relax..!

January 11, 2012 at 09:36 PM

Are you freaking kidding me? I wish I could put into words how much I disagree with this. To be perfectly honest, it's the biggest load of crap I've read on here. This kind of thinking infuriates me beyond words and pisses me off to no extreme.

Why do people think that her past is ALL that matters? HELLO, as long as she still has a career there is still SOMETHING to PROVE. All of this bullsh!t about "nothing left to prove" , excuse me, but anyone who believes that needs to sit their @ss down and listen up. There is a HELL OF A LOT left to prove out there.

And to end this, perhaps the reason why Celine's career has been on a downward spiral after Titanic and since having kids is that maybe she feels this way to - maybe she feels that she has nothing to prove and has done it all. Perhaps she has listened to that kind of crap and believes it herself. Why bother trying if you've done it all? Reality is that she hasn't done it all, or even close to it. There is SO MUCH more for her to prove. So many genres of music untackled, so many different areas within the industry to do, etc.

*rant over*

Indeed. And if she really had nothing else to prove why aim at the quantity goals they so eagerly have been running towards: the biggest tour (I would care more for a higher quality set list and less places to go) and not to mention the records set with A New Day and now adding more shows to the new Vegas gig.

Nothing left to proove... in what areas? Perhaps it's a thing said to lower the standards (of her albums) and they realize it would be a hard run trying to climb the single charts again. Perhaps it's just a comfort thing?

Ok... I will stop there.

/fred

Edited January 11, 2012 at 09:36 PM by fred

January 11, 2012 at 09:42 PM

Well, I don't think she needs to prove anything, at least not to us... :shrug:

We know she can do any music style she wants and that she's gonna sound great on any of them :yes:

People knows that too (the ones that knows her). But maybe I'm not understanding what you're trying to say :hmm:

January 11, 2012 at 09:42 PM

Are you freaking kidding me? I wish I could put into words how much I disagree with this. To be perfectly honest, it's the biggest load of crap I've read on here. This kind of thinking infuriates me beyond words and pisses me off to no extreme.

Why do people think that her past is ALL that matters? HELLO, as long as she still has a career there is still SOMETHING to PROVE. All of this bullsh!t about "nothing left to prove" , excuse me, but anyone who believes that needs to sit their @ss down and listen up. There is a HELL OF A LOT left to prove out there.

And to end this, perhaps the reason why Celine's career has been on a downward spiral after Titanic and since having kids is that maybe she feels this way to - maybe she feels that she has nothing to prove and has done it all. Perhaps she has listened to that kind of crap and believes it herself. Why bother trying if you've done it all? Reality is that she hasn't done it all, or even close to it. There is SO MUCH more for her to prove. So many genres of music untackled, so many different areas within the industry to do, etc.

*rant over*

100% agree. The more she says she has nothing to prove in every interview whilst she has no album in the market, the more it's becoming evident she HAS something to prove yet. Especially when the gap between her last album (2007) and today is widening and growing now -_-

Everytime she says this failed sentence makes me sad, because it only shows that the passion there was once in her to achieve and surpass herself, is gone :ermm:

And I sadly agree that recording new albums looks like an obligation to her now, when it was a passion before :down:

I'm glad she didn't respond with hmmm ALBUMS? WHAT ALBUMS?

Yeah... it could have been worse! :sofunny:

Edited January 11, 2012 at 09:44 PM by Javito

January 11, 2012 at 09:48 PM

100% agree. The more she says she has nothing to prove in every interview whilst she has no album in the market, the more it's becoming evident she HAS something to prove yet. Especially when the gap between her last album (2007) and today is widening and growing now

Everytime she says this failed sentence makes me sad, because it only shows that the passion there was once in her to achieve and surpass herself, is gone

And I sadly agree that recording new albums looks like an obligation to her now, when it was a passion before
Yeah... it could have been worse! :sofunny:

Javito you should he ber personal coach! she needs someone to guide her back.. to find her passion back!

January 11, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Indeed. And if she really had nothing else to prove why aim at the quantity goals they so eagerly have been running towards: the biggest tour (I would care more for a higher quality set list and less places to go) and not to mention the records set with A New Day and now adding more shows to the new Vegas gig.

Nothing left to proove... in what areas? Perhaps it's a thing said to lower the standards (of her albums) and they realize it would be a hard run trying to climb the single charts again. Perhaps it's just a comfort thing?

Ok... I will stop there.

/fred

Every time she uses that famous phrase about not having to prove herself, I feel that, in fact, she tries to say I DON'T REALLY CARE. I might be wrong (I'd better be), but that's just my impression.

January 11, 2012 at 10:06 PM

To me, every time she says she has nothing to prove, she means that she records now for the simple pleasure of doing it. :yes:

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