New English Album - "Water and a Flame" (Pre-Release Thread Part 1)

[celine4evauk]

So the latest album news is that 4 or 5 songs have been recorded, the rest will be recorded in Florida when they go back. Still due for April. All the songs for the french album have been picked - still to be recorded. Still due in the Autumn/Fall.

[browseceline]

seems like Celine wants to stay in Vegas for a long time... sold out shows for the whole year..Seems she had a nice vacation and the children are doing well.. and .. I feel like reading other interviews and again so less talk about what kind of music or which kind of songs.. Edited December 29, 2011 at 09:08 PM by browseceline

[ferjaacu]

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/dec/2...rst-steps-slee/

 

Thanks for the news !!!

[browseceline]

Thanks for the news !!!

 

 

yes thanks but there is not much news as we see here.. yes about her babies doing well and her family etc. and about minor changes to the show and about that the album still has to be recorded. But she loves to sing and perform in Vegas, yes we know that.

[LVCeline]

I'm really excited to find out they've already recorded 4 or 5 songs! I'm sure her voice sounds amazing since she was very well rested! I hope they get the other ones finished fast before her voice starts to wear down.

[Jeff Abbott]

So she's gonna perform more than 70 shows a year, right ? I think she will stay in Vegas for a LONG LONG time.

 

By the way, did you notice that it has become a rule whenever a new interview comes up; they only talk about the Vegas deal or children and basically mention nothing new about her upcoming music projects (2-3 sentences at most).

 

I'm super excited about these new songs she's already recorded.

Edited December 29, 2011 at 09:37 PM by Jeff Abbott

[Alex_Incognito]

It seems like the same news repeats over again.

[browseceline]

So she's gonna perform more than 70 shows a year, right ? I think she will stay in Vegas for a LONG LONG time.

 

By the way, did you notice that it has become a rule whenever a new interview comes up; they only talk about the Vegas deal or children and basically mention nothing new about her music (2-3 sentences at most)

 

 

i did not want to be the one starting this and getting all Celine-Family-baby-lovers against me; but yes this is exactly how it is: I felt the same, it is like each and every interview...blabla about babies, blabla about being a mother..blabla about that vegas gives her time to be a mother and doing what she likes to do the most - sing and perform :sleep: :sleep:

 

You know what, I have always loved her music but the way she doing lately is sooo... ignoring the (not vegas) fans, and only doing the Vegas thing again. And again that last sentence - that is what I like to do most - sing and perform...... I doubt that. If you like to "sing" and perform the same songs year after year.. I don't know what to think about it. I read something about her wanting wear fancy clothes etc. Sure these shows are well selling..Well this show is a charttopper again, because they are referring to her sold out shows again. Glad she is doing well, but I am getting bored lately by this interviews

oh and not forget to mention she already recorded 5 songs!! wow.. 5 songs already! - what kind of songs, what music does inspire you. what kind of songs can we expect... no answer. Just some date the rest will be recorded. Vegas is main priority

Edited December 29, 2011 at 09:48 PM by browseceline

[duri]

Good news she already recorded some songs. Thank you. B TW it seems that new baby is not planning. Hope she wont stay in Vegas more than 5 years.

[Jeff Abbott]

It seems like the same news repeats over again.

At least in this interview there is no mention of them still receiving new songs, listening to these songs and picking the ones they like. So that's something new.

I'm very surprised!

Edited December 29, 2011 at 09:50 PM by Jeff Abbott

[anewdayhascome]

but they indicate that songs for the French album have been finally chosen but as for the English album it's not clearly said... Maybe they are indeed still receiving:P

[mebe]

So she's gonna perform more than 70 shows a year, right ? I think she will stay in Vegas for a LONG LONG time.

 

By the way, did you notice that it has become a rule whenever a new interview comes up; they only talk about the Vegas deal or children and basically mention nothing new about her upcoming music projects (2-3 sentences at most).

I'm super excited about these new songs she's already recorded.

 

Yeah you're right! I was about to make the same comment...That's too bad. Can't wait for more news about the albums!

[Javito]

i did not want to be the one starting this and getting all Celine-Family-baby-lovers against me; but yes this is exactly how it is: I felt the same, it is like each and every interview...blabla about babies, blabla about being a mother..blabla about that vegas gives her time to be a mother and doing what she likes to do the most - sing and perform :sleep: :sleep:

 

You know what, I have always loved her music but the way she doing lately is sooo... ignoring the (not vegas) fans, and only doing the Vegas thing again. And again that last sentence - that is what I like to do most - sing and perform...... I doubt that. If you like to "sing" and perform the same songs year after year.. I don't know what to think about it. I read something about her wanting wear fancy clothes etc. Sure these shows are well selling..Well this show is a charttopper again, because they are referring to her sold out shows again. Glad she is doing well, but I am getting bored lately by this interviews

oh and not forget to mention she already recorded 5 songs!! wow.. 5 songs already! - what kind of songs, what music does inspire you. what kind of songs can we expect... no answer. Just some date the rest will be recorded. Vegas is main priority

 

And not to mention this:

 

but also she’ll probably renew for an additional two years -- similar to when she signed on the first time back in March 2003 for her “A New Day” run, which was for three years and extended to five. (Celine admits that five is her lucky number!)

 

Isn't this the most stupid thing of the interview? So they may be extending it just because of the number 5? Yeah Grrreat

 

This case is hopeless I'm afraid

[browseceline]

And not to mention this:

Isn't this the most stupid thing of the interview? So they may be extending it just because of the number 5? Yeah Grrreat

 

This case is hopeless I'm afraid

 

So yes! Celine might do a worldtour when she is 46 !!! yes!

[Jeff Abbott]

And not to mention this:

Isn't this the most stupid thing of the interview? So they may be extending it just because of the number 5? Yeah Grrreat

 

This case is hopeless I'm afraid

Let's all be grateful that Celine's lucky number is not 15 or 25.

 

Rene must have worked really hard to bring Celine round to the idea of extending the Vagas deal. We all know it will happen, too much money is up for grabs. I'm not so sure though if Celine wants to stay there for additional two years.

[browseceline]

Let's all be grateful that Celine's lucky number is not 15 or 25.

 

Rene must have worked really hard to bring Celine round to the idea of extending the Vagas deal. We all know it will happen, too much money is up for grabs. I'm not so sure though if Celine wants to stay there for additional two years.

 

he clearly does not care for Celine being in the charts again. He only cares about how much the show sells, and it sells a lot. But why, he has money enough to never have to work again. Celine - learn how to say NAY to your husband. Not everything he wants is best for your career.

If this deal will be extended for another 2 years Celine will be remembered as the 90s once popular singer of the power of love, because you loved me and my heart will go on that now has retired and is pleasing Vegas audiences with all time favorites and covers.

[Javito]

he clearly does not care for Celine being in the charts again. He only cares about how much the show sells, and it sells a lot. But why, he has money enough to never have to work again. Celine - learn how to say NAY to your husband. Not everything he wants is best for your career.

If this deal will be extended for another 2 years Celine will be remembered as the 90s once popular singer of the power of love, because you loved me and my heart will go on that now has retired and is pleasing Vegas audiences with all time favorites and covers.

 

Isn't she remembered for that since 10 years ago already? Does someone remember her for any single after ANDHC o I'm Alive since 2002?

[browseceline]

Isn't she remembered for that since 10 years ago already? Does someone remember her for any single after ANDHC o I'm Alive since 2002?

 

As long as in the shows no attention is given to her older repertoire she never performed, or to her newer albums with great song it, never performed, she will always be remembered because of that signature songs. And she is keeping that alive since she always " sings" them because that is what her fans like to hear...... which fans? it's not us .. that is for sure.

But before I am getting a fight with fans in here, let's stick to the subject again.

 

the news there is no really news. oh yes, 5 songs already been recorded and the rest will done later..

Edited December 29, 2011 at 10:38 PM by browseceline

[Jeff Abbott]

As long as in the shows no attention is given to her older repertoire she never performed, or to her newer albums with great song it, never performed, she will always be remembered because of that signature songs. And she is keeping that alive since she always " sings" them because that is what her fans like to hear...... which fans? it's not us .. that is for sure.

But before I am getting a fight with fans in here, let's stick to the subject again.

 

the news there is no really news. oh yes, 5 songs already been recorded and the rest will done later..

The problem is that she leaves all the decisions to Rene when it comes to her singing career. That's too bad, but also weird given her talent, charisma, vocal technique and passion for singing.

By the way, here in Poland she's only known as the Titanic singer, and that's all (kinda like a one-hit wonder, which is obviously not true). But hey, do they really need to care about that if the Vegas shows sell out regularly?

 

I'm not gonna go further into that as well, let's just be positive about these 5 new songs. Maybe in January we'll get some more info about these albums.

[gafsa]

This Vegas thing is hopeless. don't get me wrong. i still love Celine and can't hardly wait for her new album, but it's really bored me to death that she didn't care anymore about her career. she's going nowhere. Edited December 29, 2011 at 11:11 PM by gafsa

[ferjaacu]

It doesn't matter wich songs she sings on the Vegas shows, or in any of her shows, or how many new albums she releases... She will always be remembered for TPOL, BATB, BYLM, ABM, MHWGO because, as you said, those are her signature songs Those are the songs that got her to be one of the best selling artist of all times... Those are the songs that the most of the people want to hear from her... Maybe not all of her most die-hard fans like us, or those who have seen her live many times , but the most of the people have chosen those songs to be her signature songs... I love those songs, and I'd be very dissapointed if I ever finally got the chance to see her live and she doesn't sing them However, I wouldn't mind since all I want is to hear her sing and I don't have to be selfish and ask only for what I want I understand what you say thou, about wanting her to sing some other songs of hers too... There are a lot of songs I'd love to hear her sing live I don't know why they don't do them, but I guess they have a reason why Some of the songs you'd like her to sing, I don't... And some of the songs I'd like her to sing maybe you don't, but we have to accept the fact that we are not the ones taking those decisions and that the world doesn't spin around us only

 

The same applies with the songs on the new album... If she's gonna record most of the songs from "CELINE" and some new songs, then so be it !!! If she doesn't want to be the number one anymore, let her be !!! If she's done pretty well till now, what makes you think you know what's best for her career??? Actually, what do think a successful career is like?? Guys, come on !!! I understand we can all have different opinions and so, but saying such things like "they don't know what's best for her" is out of any limit... We don't know for sure what's best for her, or actually, what do they want to achieve, or why they do things like they do... so we can't talk about it like if we did know...

 

Once again, I apologize to all of you who come here to see some news and only find posts like this Please, let's use this topic only to share news

 

Now, if you want to talk about anything but the english album, there's a topic I've created a long time ago for this matter and you can find it here http://www.celinedionforum.com/Celine-Dion...eer-t48457.html

Edited December 29, 2011 at 11:35 PM by ferjaacu

[spunkransum]

SO, no new news as usual I doubt this album will do well look at who is bringing a new album out next year. Shania Twain, Madonna, Cher, and suposidely Mariah Carey is also. If she doesn't play the cards right, it will do nothing. Give us a hint already Celine, say something like "Oh this one song yada yada I really like it and it has an upbeat tone and a symphony and all this great stuff." But no we just say we are recording but this Vegas show is fantastic.

 

Though if "The Prayer" is going in to the show I pray the Stevie Wonder duet goes away. That is what I pray.

[browseceline]

It doesn't matter wich songs she sings on the Vegas shows, or in any of her shows, or how many new albums she releases... She will always be remembered for TPOL, BATB, BYLM, ABM, MHWGO because, as you said, those are her signature songs Those are the songs that got her to be one of the best selling artist of all times... Those are the songs that the most of the people want to hear from her... Maybe not all of her most die-hard fans like us, or those who have seen her live many times , but the most of the people have chosen those songs to be her signature songs... I love those songs, and I'd be very dissapointed if I ever finally got the chance to see her live and she doesn't sing them However, I wouldn't mind since all I want is to hear her sing and I don't have to be selfish and ask only for what I want I understand what you say thou, about wanting her to sing some other songs of hers too... There are a lot of songs I'd love to hear her sing live I don't know why they don't do them, but I guess they have a reason why Some of the songs you'd like her to sing, I don't... And some of the songs I'd like her to sing maybe you don't, but we have to accept the fact that we are not the ones taking those decisions and that the world doesn't spin around us only

 

The same applies with the songs on the new album... If she's gonna record most of the songs from "CELINE" and some new songs, then so be it !!! If she doesn't want to be the number one anymore, let her be !!! If she's done pretty well till now, what makes you think you know what's best for her career??? Actually, what do think a successful career is like?? Guys, come on !!! I understand we can all have different opinions and so, but saying such things like "they don't know what's best for her" is out of any limit... We don't know for sure what's best for her, or actually, what do they want to achieve, or why they do things like they do... so we can't talk about it like if we did know...

 

Once again, I apologize to all of you who come here to see some news and only find posts like this

 

 

I kind of agree with you but I don't think it is selfish if we ask for a change. I don't want next tour be filled with the same oldies again. Oh I sure will be visiting that concert if it comes but hope she surprises with something fresh then. Things are done like they are because it is safe and they know the regular audience likes those songs. I agree not the whole world spins around us. But we once became fans of her music. at least what made me buy her cds etc and I do care about her career too, and I am not the only one.

And we are not so much off topic since this is a reaction on her latest interview that brought us some news about the album. a little bit though.

And yes I am dissapointed having read that interview.

Edited December 29, 2011 at 11:31 PM by browseceline

[ferjaacu]

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/dec/2...rst-steps-slee/

 

Actually guys, I don't think this has been a "new interview" I think they've mixed some old interviews with maybe a talk René or anyone from Celine's team have had with Robin

[Javito]

She could have kept adding more of those so-called "signature songs" if only she had put the effort in promoting them in the same way and as strongly as she has continued singing her classics

 

Her repertoire of what you call "signature songs" could have grown if only she had put the effort and believed on those new songs she recorded with each new album, but they never gave them a chance, they have always sang the same old songs whatever TV show, concert or new world tour she had done

 

The ONLY time I have heard Céline or her team to acknowledge that one of her new songs (recorded after 2002) had become a "classic" or a "fan favourite" is with My Love, during the TCWT. Only ONE song in a decade, since 2002. That's all It's really sad.

Edited December 30, 2011 at 12:49 AM by Javito

[Your_Su_Phu]

james horner intentionally used a synthesized/artificial choir

the budget was not "limited"

Edited December 30, 2011 at 02:23 AM by Your_Su_Phu

[JasonFromTheMoon]

"Viva Las Vegas" - April release

 

01. I Love Las Vegas

02. Night At The Colosseum

03. Lullabye

04. Overjoyed

06. How Do You Keep The Music Playing

07. Viva Las Vegas

08. Because You Loved Me (Live)

09. Goldfinger (Duet with Rene-Charles)

10. The Main Mansion/Fight (Interlude)

11. Hopelessly Divided Between Vegas And Florida

12. Sorry For Love (2012 Vegas Remix)

13. Viva La Money

14. I Remember A New Day

15. Be The Man (Japanese Bonus Track)

 

16. Bonus DVD:

16.1. Family Day in Florida

16.2. Family Free Night in Las Vegas

 

Sorry I'm just having this moment while reading the current news lol. It's for fun though, while waiting for something beautiful (I hope) to come.

[Carina]

he clearly does not care for Celine being in the charts again. He only cares about how much the show sells, and it sells a lot. But why, he has money enough to never have to work again. Celine - learn how to say NAY to your husband. Not everything he wants is best for your career.

If this deal will be extended for another 2 years Celine will be remembered as the 90s once popular singer of the power of love, because you loved me and my heart will go on that now has retired and is pleasing Vegas audiences with all time favorites and covers.

 

 

I agree 100% with you, and that will be a shame to waste such a beautiful voice.

[amin27cd]

I absolutely agree.

[Javito]

I agree 100% with you, and that will be a shame to waste such a beautiful voice.

 

I agree that she's been wasting years of quality voice only singing the same songs over and over again... and it seems they're not going to change that a bit.

 

Dozens of songs remain unsung but on their original album recordings... it's a pity really