New English Album - "Water and a Flame" (Pre-Release Thread Part 1)

[smash]

The album being released in April? Have they ever really stuck to the original date with any album in the last few years? Lets rarther maybe say, sometime next year.

[Kyle_Jared]

I know people hate when we do comparisons, but Madonna is releasing her english record in March 2012 and the new single already leaked (although has since been taken down), and she is confirmed to play the SuperBowl in February....and this news was released early December.

 

If Celine is indeed releasing a new English Album in April, there should be dates confirmed or at least some more 'smoke' by January! Back in the fall we got that word she from her Interview with Hello magazine that she was going to be recording on her time off....now that's just about over and we get word it's 'in between vegas shows.' But is that recording "more songs" for the project? or has the recording not even started yet. I'm assuming her label would need to have appearances booked soon.....you don't book The View, American Idol, etc. or whatever promo LAST mintue.

[browseceline]

and to add to all these messages - It feels to me Celine does not want to record a new album but feels like she has to please us fans. Because for her it is safe to play in Vegas, and easy because she can raise her family and combine it with work. But you can't tell me that being in Vegas the whole time, playing the same songs everytime again to a mostly Vegas-interested crowd and not experimenting with new material anymore, that that gives her satisfaction. I hope this - I have to - album will blow us away. And like said here, she might want to stay in Vegas for the rest of the time, maybe change the show now and then and stay away from the real music business and become part of the strip for as long she wants - or HAS - to. Of course everyone wants Celine to be happy but I myself, would love to see her come back as the singer she once was. And I think Rene has the idea that all Celine Dion fans are getting old and that they need boring material that serves them. But please Rene, take the time now it is still there, Celine does not have to be at the top of the charts again, but it will be so nice when she comes with new fresh material, and I am sure she will love that too!

[Jeff Abbott]

Rene needs to get her out of her contract with Sony then and they need to set up their own record label so they never need to worry about record label commitments again. Sony pay her millions of dollars to be part of their label and in return they expect her to sell records and i'm sure, quite rightly, that behind the scenes they are beginning to demand new material. Part of the deal is she has to promote those records across the world. That's what having a record deal involves.

 

If Celine doesn't want to do any of that and instead spend her life in Vegas performing and raising her children (and there's nothing wrong with that by the way) then she should just walk away from Sony and stop the illusion of being an active international singer and instead focus on the Vegas showroom.

I'm afraid that if they quit Sony and set up their own record label, the next album we'd be getting would be around 2020. I mean no pressure placed on them and no contractual obligations to fulfill.

I'd be really pissed if I were one of the top executives at Sony Music. For the last few years there has been little revenue coming from Celine's album sales.

[Xpresso]

I wouldn't be surprised if many songs are already recorded....

but they just don't want to talk about it...

[duri]

I wouldn't be surprised if many songs are already recorded....

but they just don't want to talk about it...

I wish it´s true. This waiting is so long and with every next interview or article we get the same info, they are selected songs, I really hope that finally album will be out in april.

[Jeff Abbott]

I wouldn't be surprised if many songs are already recorded....

but they just don't want to talk about it...

You might be right, but then what would be the reason for doing that?

[celine4evauk]

When Taking Chances was released, at this time the previous year, we had more information about the album, right? I'm curious why they are so mysterious about the whole thing.

 

 

Probably had something to do with the fact that Celine and co had a world tour to promote! If the TC album had been during AND or this latest LV show doubt we'd know much about it. And this new album will probably be released within a week or two of the single. Bit of promo early on before the release. Then, never to be heard of again.

[ferjaacu]

I think all they're doing is taking all the time to make of it an incredible new album for us, and for them too !!! It'd be great to know more about the songs that are gonna be on it, and the writters and producers, but the less we know, the more surprised we can be when the album it's finally out I also think this is another way to promoted the album amopng us the fans and the non fans, cause we get very anxious and we, for sure, are gonna buy this new album

 

Edit: I think recording the album in between the Vegas shows is not actually a bad idea, since she'll be in the mood of singing (although she can be also tired) like when Taking Chances was recorded

Edited December 18, 2011 at 12:22 AM by ferjaacu

[Javito]

I don't know what the hell is going on with this album. How many times they have been asked about it and how many times have they said they were picking songs still?

 

If they're not interested anymore in recording new albums, they could be honest and say that they just want to earn money just singing. I think they have lost interest and passion in doing this, because they have never kept both the press and the fans in the dark like this before

 

They'd better be recording one of the best 2012 albums full of new songs, because if its only a collection of the Vegas songs that's going to suck BIG.

[celinefan1985]

Omg people. I get the feeling that you will all be extremely dissapointed. Celine's priorities have changed. She was already not so involved in the process save for showing up

at the last minute to sing songs her "team" had chosen. With her LV show and her wanting nothing-more-in-the-world than being a mother, do you really think we will be getting a great English album? Seriously, I am holding out more hope for the French one.

[bertrand]

You guys are so negative and pessimistic. ALWAYS so bitter...

Patience my god

[Carina]

Celine Dion don't need the money or the name. We made her rich and famous, why would she worry about a new album. Maybe it's time we move on to someone else who still cares about their music and want to make their fans happy with new music.

[Davey84]

And u joined the forum why?

[Carina]

I can do whatever I want....

[stchba]

I can do whatever I want....

 

 

If you made an account only to bash Celine, I suggest you leave ASAP! Don't mess with Celine fans! We will crush you!

[browseceline]

If you made an account only to bash Celine, I suggest you leave ASAP! Don't mess with Celine fans! We will crush you!

 

ah come one don't act so childish! "we will crush you" pfff... hahahahahahahah

Well I can understand some anger here since it is just indeed that Celine lost her passion and the team decides what she has to sing

and she always okay with it. For her it is just part of her job and she feels like it is a normal job, going on stage at night and be a mum during the rest of the day. We cannot blame her for that, but I can also understand that her fans loose interest, because apart from being a great person that she is, I admire her the most of her voice and lately she is not doing much with it, except singing her old repertoire in each and every show or concert. But who knows what will change.. maybe she comes to the point that she really wants to take new challenges. But up to that she has this huge contract for Vegas which has been signed already so there is no way she can easily get out of it. So for us fans, maybe hoping her to tour once again, could take at least 5 years I am afraid. Such a waste of time in my opinion..

[frana]

Celine Dion don't need the money or the name. We made her rich and famous, why would she worry about a new album. Maybe it's time we move on to someone else who still cares about their music and want to make their fans happy with new music.

 

You are not Celine fan

And you joined to the forum why !!

 

[Matej]

Celine Dion don't need the money or the name. We made her rich and famous, why would she worry about a new album. Maybe it's time we move on to someone else who still cares about their music and want to make their fans happy with new music.

 

Carina, why you joined the forum? I think time is over for now and I suggest you move as soon as possible on to someone else who makes you happy with new music like you wrote. So good listening, good luck and thanks for your feeling...

[Jeff Abbott]

Celine Dion don't need the money or the name. We made her rich and famous, why would she worry about a new album. Maybe it's time we move on to someone else who still cares about their music and want to make their fans happy with new music.

You have introduced yourself quite nicely to other forum members. I respect your opinion and you're entitled to have one, but THINK TWICE before you post anything.

P.S. No other singer can take the place of Celine in our hearts. For me she'll always be the one and only, sorry.

[Carina]

What on earth???!!!!! It's because I like Celine so much that I react that way!!! I am just so disappointed in waiting for new music. Her last studio album in 2007. Yes I know she had the twins and and and, but what is the hold up. Didn't they say there would be a new album this year? Now it's only next year and who knows when.... As for my comment to move on....... I'm just frustrated thats all!!!!! There is and will be no one like Celine!!!

 

BTW, who can tell me why are there unreleased songs, why don't the record company release it?

[Claudette]

Carina, we are all frustrated with Celine's career choices at the moment, and most of us understand where you're coming from with your first post (with the exception of a few people who believe that Celine cannot do anything wrong ). I just think you shouldn't have made your first post on here so negative because by doing that it seemed like you are really a hater that want to make trouble here on the forum. Not saying you are, I'm just saying you should be careful, people tend to mark you quickly based on your first post.

 

To answer your question, I guess they're waiting till Celine is no longer with us so they can make more money.

 

Btw, I see you are also from SA. Nice to see people from here also using this site (which is the best place on the net to find anything Celine related).

[Carina]

Thank you for those who respect my OPINION.

[Alex_Incognito]

Let loose, people. Carina's not bathing in Celine's blood.

 

"We will crush you". What is this? Transformers?

Edited December 18, 2011 at 05:30 PM by Alex_Incognito

[Carina]

Thanks for you answer Cluadette. And I agree with you.

 

Lol, Alex, yes that is just water people. (To everyone who wants to crush me) :lol3:

[browseceline]

Let loose, people. Carina's not bathing in Celine's blood.

 

"We will crush you". What is this? Transformers?

 

 

hahahaha bathing in her blood hahaha,, I respect your opinion too Carina because you are so right!

you are just disappointed in the choices Celine ( Rene and his team ) made. And I understand it.

the Celinosaurus is gonna crush you hahaha..beware hahahah No it is like been said before, you have all right to give your opinion, and it is your opinion and one should never be judged being a bad fan when you're just disappointed and want to write down your frustration. That is where is forum is made for - to talk about the thing that binds us together, in this case Celine, and that also means not having Celine somewhere on a cloud and being happy with everything she does but also give critic when you think you want to. Nobody is perfect

Edited December 18, 2011 at 06:30 PM by browseceline

[dj4celine]

to the forum, Carina! And really WELCOME to the forum where some people either just don't want to see the reality or have a distorted reality clouding their opinions. But there are also a many of us who don't want to accept that is given to us as if it was Heaven's proclamation cos we know that she can do better.

 

 

"We will crush you" <--- :mdr:

[anewdayhascome]

I don't understand one thing. If Celine is really that busy and tired why are they going to release two albums next year? Wouldn't it be better if they focused on one and make it known?

I know we are longing for new material but if it's too much for her I think she shouldn't do it by all means...Such an artist shouldn't push his/her release just because he/she hasn't released anything for so long, his/her fans wants him/her to do so or because his/her label pushes him/her. It should come out of his/her own will and NEED.

 

I just hope that this album will be really wise if you know what I mean

Edited December 18, 2011 at 06:37 PM by anewdayhascome

[Javito]

I don't understand one thing. If Celine is really that busy and tired why are they going to release two albums next year? Wouldn't it be better if they focused on one and make it known?

I know we are longing for new material but if it's too much for her I think she shouldn't do it by all means...Such an artist shouldn't push his/her release just because he/she hasn't released anything for so long, his/her fans wants him/her to do so or because his/her label pushes him/her. It should come out of his/her own will and NEED.

 

I just hope that this album will be really wise if you know what I mean

 

Yes, the main problem is that Céline has never released an album just for the sake of her own will Look at the past decade, during the 90's Sony released a Céline Dion album every year. After FIY worldwide success, she went to the recording studio to do LTAL, another even bigger success and then a world tour. Do you think that was because Céline said "Ok, I'm exhausted, but let's do another album one right now

That should be because Sony's contract was behind and saw the hen of golden eggs behind, but today things have changed and René/Céline put an end to that yearly basis (sadly for us, yes).

[Jeff Abbott]

It seems to me that Celine is gonna be very busy next year between 22nd of January and 22nd of February, when she's off Vegas. I don't know if I understood the article the right way, but she's gonna record these songs not between the individual shows but between the two of the concert series, right?

 

Rene mentioned something that they're still receiving songs. I just want to believe that there are other great songs (read REAL GEMS) waiting to be discovered and commissioned just for her. If the album has already been completed and its songlist closed, that wouldn't happen. Who knows maybe soon they'll be offered Celine's future #1 hit.

 

Oh, wishful thinking .

 

By the way, let's just forget about the whole 'moving on' post and 'we will crush you' thing. Sometimes we all get too emotional.

 

Welcome to the forum Carina!

Edited December 18, 2011 at 07:10 PM by Jeff Abbott