Javito Posted April 22, 2019 at 08:07 AM Posted April 22, 2019 at 08:07 AM (edited) Yeah on THAT chart, that’s ONE chart, so? ANDHC was #1 in more than 20 countries and different charts dear ANDHC single is quoted, played and used both the audio and videoclip as background music for countless video introductions on interviews and TV reports still today, 17 years later after its release, but IDAN?? Where is it? Oh it only serves Celine to illustrate a video where she’s escaping from Vegas to tour haha Yes it would have been nice to have IDAN recorded and released in 2002 within the ANDHC album, but it wasn’t and it was recorded exclusively in late 2002 for the Chrysler partnership with the launch of her Vegas show. There’s nothing to do about it. Edited April 22, 2019 at 08:14 AM by Javito Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Dion2000 Posted April 22, 2019 at 08:46 AM Posted April 22, 2019 at 08:46 AM (edited) Canadian Hot 100 - FIVE consecutive weeks at #1 BBH100 - #45 Peak (ridiculous considering it was airplay only) BFSC - 10 weeks at #1 Has a gold certif in Belgium and AUS. Is eligible for gold in the UK and Silver in the US. Not that bad for a single which was airplay only and wasn’t physically released until months after promotion ended IDAN has been used in many interviews, the YT video for the Las Vegas performance is the third most viewed after IS and MHWGO. There were times on TV shows and events she was asked to perform IDAN... not ANDHC. I mean she hasnt even performed either of the “correct” versions of ANDHC in 11 years so that kind of shows her priorities Edited April 22, 2019 at 08:49 AM by Dion2000 1 Quote
Javito Posted April 22, 2019 at 09:07 AM Posted April 22, 2019 at 09:07 AM Her “priorities”... simply LMAO!! She was asked to perform IDAN and not ANDHC... proof please? She hasn’t performed the “correct” version of ANDHC in 11 years... and that’s evidence of WHAT exactly please? And I guess all the times she has performed IDAN that was the “correct” album version all the time right? Lol You’re just too funny to read when you try to justify your own nonsensical arguments! 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Dion2000 Posted April 22, 2019 at 09:16 AM Posted April 22, 2019 at 09:16 AM (edited) Her “priorities”... simply LMAO!! She was asked to perform IDAN and not ANDHC... proof please? She hasn’t performed the “correct” version of ANDHC in 11 years... and that’s evidence of WHAT exactly please? And I guess all the times she has performed IDAN that was the “correct” album version all the time right? Lol You’re just too funny to read when you try to justify your own nonsensical arguments! Yes she has. The original arrangement and she always (unless she runs out of breath) sticks to the exact sameTempo, phrasing and belts. ANDHC shes always changing it and hasnt done the slow or RR version in 11 years. She clearly doesnt really care for either or Id love for some proof of her being asked to do ANDHC lol, cause she hasnt since it was released. I never even said She was asked to perform IDAN INSTEAD of ANDHC I appreciate the effort And i dont need proof considering the proof is one google search away, miss TV shows unless the artists have something to promote will just say a few songs they would want the artist to perform, and unless an artist objects or WANTS to do something else they will probably do that. I love the fact that simply because you have a strange fanatic like obsession with the album you will go to the ends of the earth to argue it’s superiority and that everyone else is wrong But im not going to clog up a thread arguing with a lost cause so if you feel that strongly, Private Message me rather than continuous antagonising inside a forum Edited April 22, 2019 at 09:24 AM by Dion2000 1 Quote
Peppercorn1991 Posted April 22, 2019 at 09:22 AM Posted April 22, 2019 at 09:22 AM Her “priorities”... simply LMAO!! She was asked to perform IDAN and not ANDHC... proof please? She hasn’t performed the “correct” version of ANDHC in 11 years... and that’s evidence of WHAT exactly please? And I guess all the times she has performed IDAN that was the “correct” album version all the time right? Lol You’re just too funny to read when you try to justify your own nonsensical arguments! I was only thinking yesterday how much I want a full performance of ANDHC (radio mix) on this new tour. It’s one of my favourite songs and even one of her well known songs. Have no idea why they haven’t performed this version of the song more. I love the slow version in an entirely different way but it doesn’t give me the same feels as the radio mix. BTW it’s hot in the UK over the Easter period and ANDHC is perfect! My grandmother was singing the album in the car last night!!! I love this album. Kev x 7 Quote
Javito Posted April 22, 2019 at 10:26 AM Posted April 22, 2019 at 10:26 AM (edited) Yes she has. The original arrangement and she always (unless she runs out of breath) sticks to the exact sameTempo, phrasing and belts. ANDHC shes always changing it and hasnt done the slow or RR version in 11 years. She clearly doesnt really care for either or Id love for some proof of her being asked to do ANDHC lol, cause she hasnt since it was released. I never even said She was asked to perform IDAN INSTEAD of ANDHC I appreciate the effort And i dont need proof considering the proof is one google search away, miss TV shows unless the artists have something to promote will just say a few songs they would want the artist to perform, and unless an artist objects or WANTS to do something else they will probably do that. I love the fact that simply because you have a strange fanatic like obsession with the album you will go to the ends of the earth to argue it’s superiority and that everyone else is wrong But im not going to clog up a thread arguing with a lost cause so if you feel that strongly, Private Message me rather than continuous antagonising inside a forum Antagonising?? You’ve been a pain in the #ss and have actually been polluting a thread with another member over days during the past week. You’ve proved to be a complete ignorant on many occasions and on multiple Celine topics. The moment you’re not agreed with what you say (because most of times you have literally NO IDEA of what you’re talking about since you simply weren’t even born on the time you talk about), you start calling names, mocking the other person and even insulting in the most despicable way, and you’ve been called out for this in several occasions now. I’m only FANATIC of the people who speak with a BASIS and give PROOF of what they talk when bragging about things you weren’t even alive when they happened and haven’t witnessed in any way, not of wannabe fans and drama babies like you who have no idea and literally spit out the first thing that crosses your mind without any minimum previous research, and come here with the most arrogant, silly attitude trying to preach other fans. Because that’s exactly what you do here. Don’t come preaching me what to do or not when you’re precisely the one who is causing trouble all the time in this forum with several members instead of discussing your incompetence privately. Edited April 22, 2019 at 10:37 AM by Javito 2 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Javito Posted April 22, 2019 at 10:40 AM Posted April 22, 2019 at 10:40 AM I was only thinking yesterday how much I want a full performance of ANDHC (radio mix) on this new tour. It’s one of my favourite songs and even one of her well known songs. Have no idea why they haven’t performed this version of the song more. I love the slow version in an entirely different way but it doesn’t give me the same feels as the radio mix. BTW it’s hot in the UK over the Easter period and ANDHC is perfect! My grandmother was singing the album in the car last night!!! I love this album. Kev x I know Kev! ANDHC was BIG in the UK and the UK press still remembers the song, like we’ve seen with the articles of L’Oreal and the press about her fashion shows in the past years! Hopefully she will come back to the radio remix for the next tour! 5 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Dion2000 Posted April 22, 2019 at 11:47 AM Posted April 22, 2019 at 11:47 AM Antagonising?? You’ve been a pain in the #ss and have actually been polluting a thread with another member over days during the past week. You’ve proved to be a complete ignorant on many occasions and on multiple Celine topics. The moment you’re not agreed with what you say (because most of times you have literally NO IDEA of what you’re talking about since you simply weren’t even born on the time you talk about), you start calling names, mocking the other person and even insulting in the most despicable way, and you’ve been called out for this in several occasions now. I’m only FANATIC of the people who speak with a BASIS and give PROOF of what they talk when bragging about things you weren’t even alive when they happened and haven’t witnessed in any way, not of wannabe fans and drama babies like you who have no idea and literally spit out the first thing that crosses your mind without any minimum previous research, and come here with the most arrogant, silly attitude trying to preach other fans. Because that’s exactly what you do here. Don’t come preaching me what to do or not when you’re precisely the one who is causing trouble all the time in this forum with several members instead of discussing your incompetence privately. Imagine being in your 30s and still throwing temper tantrums like a toddler tut tut. As i said Im done. You however always need the last word and have no room to talk on polluting threads when you single handedly argued with 4 different people and got the english album thread shut down twice. So theres that. Anyway, im done. Deuces 1 Quote
Javito Posted April 22, 2019 at 12:13 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 12:13 PM (edited) You should have been done several months ago already. On the contrary, I’m not creating absurd disputes by contradicting everyone with false assumptions and imaginative posts whose ultimate objective is to twist and distort what others have said in their right to opine. I’m not even sure you’re only 18 or 80 anymore. You first were a male in your profile and now changed to female. By now I think you’re just a TROLL in this forum. There’s that Edited April 22, 2019 at 12:14 PM by Javito 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Dion2000 Posted April 22, 2019 at 12:31 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 12:31 PM Still going... And btw, i changed my gender simply because I myself have been questioning my gender identity for a long time. As if that is literally any of your business but im not gonna let someone accuse me of something with no tangible proof, sorry. 1 Quote
Javito Posted April 22, 2019 at 12:39 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 12:39 PM (edited) It’s not my business, but it’s confusing, like your posts, and of course makes us wonder how we can properly address you. And it proves how you alter, twist and distort things at your will constantly here. I hope you don’t twist and change your opinions like you change your sex, otherwise that just proves again how unstable you are all the time. Edited April 22, 2019 at 12:42 PM by Javito 2 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
CelinesDIVO5 Posted April 22, 2019 at 01:15 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 01:15 PM There is no reason to go after someone’s gender whatsoever. That is an irrelevant point to any argument and comes off as transphobic. Which is disgusting and should not be tolerated. 3 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
Dion2000 Posted April 22, 2019 at 02:17 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 02:17 PM (edited) It’s not my business, but it’s confusing, like your posts, and of course makes us wonder how we can properly address you. And it proves how you alter, twist and distort things at your will constantly here. I hope you don’t twist and change your opinions like you change your sex, otherwise that just proves again how unstable you are all the time. I love it when people show their true colours. Are mods not going to acknowledge this blatantly transphobic comment or is this gonna slide aswell? Calling someone mentally unstable and linking that to their gender identity. Speaks magnitudes about you as a person Edited April 22, 2019 at 02:18 PM by Dion2000 1 Quote
Javito Posted April 22, 2019 at 03:29 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 03:29 PM (edited) Oh thank you, keep it coming Actualy being called "transphobic" must be the kindest insult received from you, according to you standards.Mentally unstable? You added "mentally", but it's good to know. I was just pointing out how you change and alter things on a constant basis here to create quarrels all the time. I don't care if it's your gender or your birth date or your country or residence -I couldn't care less-, I simply take notice of how much you like to change and distort things to cause battles and whatnot. Today it's me again, tomorrow will be someone else, it's everyday someone different You are a TROLL in this forum, you've been one since day one, and I stand to that. Edited April 22, 2019 at 03:34 PM by Javito 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Dion2000 Posted April 22, 2019 at 03:42 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 03:42 PM Oh thank you, keep it coming Actualy being called "transphobic" must be the kindest insult received from you, according to you standards.Mentally unstable? You added "mentally", but it's good to know. I was just pointing out how you change and alter things on a constant basis here to create quarrels all the time. I don't care if it's your gender or your birth date or your country or residence -I couldn't care less-, I simply take notice of how much you like to change and distort things to cause battles and whatnot. Today it's me again, tomorrow will be someone else, it's everyday someone different You are a TROLL in this forum, you've been one since day one, and I stand to that. Youre calling someone unstable it guaranteed to be mental unless youre calling me physically unstable as if im a piece of furniture. You’re transphobic and it’s disgusting. Trying to say someone’s unstable and making fun of them for transitioning and making light of questioning ones gender. You’re disgusting. Educate yourself. This is more than whatever petty grievance you have with me, that was just blatant transphobia and youve exposed yourself with that. Congratulations. Dont ever talk to me again, dont ever even try to acknowledge or antagonise me again because you’ve thoroughly disgusted me with your lack of remorse. You didnt even TRY to apologise or explain where you were coming from. And if mods dont pick up on this then I seriously give up 1 Quote
Javito Posted April 22, 2019 at 03:53 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 03:53 PM (edited) You're stupid and it's disgusting. And sad, for only 18 years old. I’m not even sure you’re only 18 or 80 anymore. You first were a male in your profile and now changed to female. By now I think you’re just a TROLL in this forum. There’s that That's what I wrote. You changed your gender here which is a FACT and I used that as another example to prove how you constantly change what you say and twist other's posts in order to create chaos, which is another FACT. Tell me exactly and how you deduct I'm a transphobic for the words I wrote LOL You're playing the victim now, which coming from you should have been so predictable. And it's the other way around dear, I NEVER talk to you and I always try to avoid your pointless posts, but eventually it's always YOU who is coming after us and replying back in a disgusting, arrogant tone and that always breaks out in the same nosensical fight with you. Do youself a favour and block me/ignore me on your profile, that should help you avoiding me Edited April 22, 2019 at 03:54 PM by Javito 2 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Dion2000 Posted April 22, 2019 at 04:19 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 04:19 PM (edited) You're stupid and it's disgusting. And sad, for only 18 years old. That's what I wrote. You changed your gender here which is a FACT and I used that as another example to prove how you constantly change what you say and twist other's posts in order to create chaos, which is another FACT. Tell me exactly and how you deduct I'm a transphobic for the words I wrote LOL You're playing the victim now, which coming from you should have been so predictable. And it's the other way around dear, I NEVER talk to you and I always try to avoid your pointless posts, but eventually it's always YOU who is coming after us and replying back in a disgusting, arrogant tone and that always breaks out in the same nosensical fight with you. Do youself a favour and block me/ignore me on your profile, that should help you avoiding me CelineDIVO5 literally also called you out. You said I had changed my gender and that reflects how i always alter and twist things on here and that you hope I dont change my “sex” as much as I change things on here. Thats extremely disrespectful and is a poor attempt at invalidatint someones gender and how they self-Identity. In essence - transphobia. To tell them in essence that theyre just changing their gender flippantly and making fun of them for that IS TRANSPHOBIC. You questioned me changing my gender as if I was trying to manipulate people, so I explained very shortly that I have been questioning my gender for a while and have decided to begin my transition, not that my gender is any of your concern to begin with might I add. You took it upon yourself to demean me and try and make fun of me for being myself, attacking me as a person and attacking me for deciding to embrace my identity which is transphobic on so many levels. You do not get to dictate what is and isn’t transphobic. Repeating what i called you isnt an arguement its a deflection tactic to distract from the fact that you exposed yourself as a transphobe. Not to mention calling ME stupid in relation to my own gender is disgusting. You “never talk to me” and “never read my posts” and you say this for a number of people and yet youre always throwing in sarcastic comments, being snide and rude without quoting the person, BEING ANTAGONISTIC. You highlighting me changing my gender just shows how little of an argument you have in the first place and it’s hilarious but also sickening. If you truly believe youve done nothing wrong you seriously need to think about yourself. You dont have the right to invalidate me or try and demean or use my gender identity as an argument trying to be funny or smug. That’s disgusting and someone else has pointed it out which you clearly avoided. Dont ever even acknowledge me again, you understand? Leave me alone, dont talk to me, dont make snide or snarky comments towards me, dont try and cause anymore arguments with me, just stop it. You love to bring age into every argument but for someone in their mid thirties youre as mature as my 3 year old niece Im sorry to everyone whos had to read all this but im not gonna let someone demean me in that way, sorry. So ive put it into a spoiler to save you all from having to read it as it does not concern you, but im addressing it now. Edited April 22, 2019 at 04:21 PM by Dion2000 1 Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted April 22, 2019 at 04:38 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 04:38 PM “A New Spat Has Come.” 3 Quote
GoldenLeaf Posted April 22, 2019 at 05:01 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 05:01 PM (edited) I don’t get your post, and it’s almost futile what you say: saying it would have been better to have OH album in 2002 instead of ANDHC only to have singles like Naked released, that doesn’t make any sense. For what? For ignoring these songs and keep them hidden same as they did with great songs in ANDHC? They wouldn’t have done differently if OH had been released only one year before lol, we all know Sony do what they want with the singles and screw everything up! It’s like saying I would have loved ANDHC to be released in 2003 to have Sorry For Love as a single because (insert any kind of unfathomable occurrence here). For what?? It never happened and it wasn’t going to happen either way. And saying IDAN in 2002 would have been a better single than ANDHC is just too much in one same laughable post lol Yeah sure, probably a bigger comeback single than ANDHC and what that song achieved everywhere. And I still dream elephants can fly one day... lolBasically my post was simply an endorsement of the Billboard article from March 2003 that isurrender was referring to in his post:This is the album that Celine Dion should have offered upon emerging from her extended recording hiatus last year. This is the album that Celine Dion should have offered upon emerging from her extended recording hiatus last year. The relaxed, almost unassuming One Heart offers a well-measured blend of the contemporary pop that will keep Dion commercially relevant and also provides her signature grand balladry. She loses a few points for retreading a couple of songs from last year's A New Day Has Come, but she compensates by performing the set's new material with more soul and natural passion than ever before. Dion is particularly strong on the percolating title cut (a vibrant, infectious future hit helmed by Kara DioGuardi and John Shanks), as well as on the gently percussive, deliciously romantic "In His Touch." One Heart may not crackle with the noise of an "event" record, but it succeeds at something far more important: It is a fine piece of music.—LFSo what’s the big deal for you if some of us prefer One Heart over A New Day Has Come and thus think that One Heart and the song I Drove All Night should have been Celine’s comeback album/single in 2002? If you don’t understand my post and this article from Billboard then I dunno what to say. Edited April 22, 2019 at 05:21 PM by GoldenLeaf Quote
GoldenLeaf Posted April 22, 2019 at 05:05 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 05:05 PM I dont think its outlandish at all to assume IDAN wouldve been bigger than ANDHC... it was like, BIG when it came out and went almost straight to #1 on the BB Dance Charts, IMO it wouldve went top 10 if that was her comeback single and thats what she was performing constantlyExactly my point! Quote
Javito Posted April 22, 2019 at 07:21 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 07:21 PM Basically my post was simply an endorsement of the Billboard article from March 2003 that isurrender was referring to in his post: So what's the big deal for you if some of us prefer One Heart over A New Day Has Come and thus think that One Heart and the song I Drove All Night should have been Celine's comeback album/single in 2002? If you don't understand my post and this article from Billboard then I dunno what to say. Nothing against that haha. Only that it's the same as if I said "I would have wanted Loved Me Back To Life to be the lead single of the TC album back in 2007", it surely would have performed much better than it did in 2013 1 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Javito Posted April 22, 2019 at 07:34 PM Posted April 22, 2019 at 07:34 PM (edited) CelineDIVO5 literally also called you out. You said I had changed my gender and that reflects how i always alter and twist things on here and that you hope I dont change my "sex" as much as I change things on here and what you should have done by now is PM me and stop this. Thats extremely disrespectful and is a poor attempt at invalidatint someones gender and how they self-Identity. In essence - transphobia. To tell them in essence that theyre just changing their gender flippantly and making fun of them for that IS TRANSPHOBIC. You questioned me changing my gender as if I was trying to manipulate people, so I explained very shortly that I have been questioning my gender for a while and have decided to begin my transition, not that my gender is any of your concern to begin with might I add. You took it upon yourself to demean me and try and make fun of me for being myself, attacking me as a person and attacking me for deciding to embrace my identity which is transphobic on so many levels. You do not get to dictate what is and isn't transphobic. Repeating what i called you isnt an arguement its a deflection tactic to distract from the fact that you exposed yourself as a transphobe. Not to mention calling ME stupid in relation to my own gender is disgusting. You "never talk to me" and "never read my posts" and you say this for a number of people and yet youre always throwing in sarcastic comments, being snide and rude without quoting the person, BEING ANTAGONISTIC. You highlighting me changing my gender just shows how little of an argument you have in the first place and it's hilarious but also sickening. If you truly believe youve done nothing wrong you seriously need to think about yourself. You dont have the right to invalidate me or try and demean or use my gender identity as an argument trying to be funny or smug. That's disgusting and someone else has pointed it out which you clearly avoided. Dont ever even acknowledge me again, you understand? Leave me alone, dont talk to me, dont make snide or snarky comments towards me, dont try and cause anymore arguments with me, just stop it. You love to bring age into every argument but for someone in their mid thirties youre as mature as my 3 year old niece Im sorry to everyone whos had to read all this but im not gonna let someone demean me in that way, sorry. So ive put it into a spoiler to save you all from having to read it as it does not concern you, but im addressing it now. 1) You surely know what PM function is right? You prove you're very silly writing that paragraph using spoiler quote apologising on the first place when you clearly know nobody is interested in your stupid tantrums all the time. Oh but you surely love all this attention, we know that already 2) I never made fun of your gender, that's all your silly assumtion to play the victim now. And it's not working All I said is that you're not someone to trust here since the very first day, and for two reasons: 1.- I'm not the first person who thought you were someone else behind your nickname since the first day of your activity in this forum, that was banned in the past and came back again with another account. That's why (and for your constant fighting) I think you're a TROLL and I stand for that. 2.- And same way I'm not the first one who publicly was confused thinking you were a "she" and then changed to "he" and now is back to "she", and got confused all the time when addressing to you. I'm not apologising since I don't have anything to apologise for. Peace Edited April 22, 2019 at 07:48 PM by Javito 3 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
empress Posted April 23, 2019 at 07:37 PM Posted April 23, 2019 at 07:37 PM Wow! What a disappointing thread.....Adios! 1 Quote
pepillo90 Posted April 23, 2019 at 07:55 PM Posted April 23, 2019 at 07:55 PM I think that's more than enough. I think you all should be banned for a while for not respecting what this thread –an others– is about. Not a permanent ban, but some time for you to calm down tension and specially your ego. We don't give a *** about your disputes. This is a Celine Dion Forum, anything else... PM or whenever you want... 4 Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v622/pepillo90/swingit.jpg ► My Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/arts_yard/
CelinesDIVO5 Posted April 24, 2019 at 02:37 AM Posted April 24, 2019 at 02:37 AM Good Lord. 1 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
SuperLove4Celine Posted April 24, 2019 at 02:45 AM Posted April 24, 2019 at 02:45 AM Good Lord. Some of our past transgressions seem pretty boring now, huh? LOL Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted April 24, 2019 at 02:50 PM Posted April 24, 2019 at 02:50 PM Some of our past transgressions seem pretty boring now, huh? LOL Well, yes. But that’s not what I was referring to LOL Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
Suiseiseki Posted April 26, 2019 at 03:34 AM Posted April 26, 2019 at 03:34 AM i hope there will be a (blue) vinyl of this album in anniversary… 1 Quote
Javito Posted April 26, 2019 at 04:20 PM Posted April 26, 2019 at 04:20 PM Just got back home for some holidays and got this beauty in the mail 2 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Javito Posted May 3, 2019 at 10:38 AM Posted May 3, 2019 at 10:38 AM (edited) What's her team up to in YouTube? They just uploaded random songs from the ANDHC album on her YouTube channel a few hours ago. And also from One Heart the past week. Thought these songs were already available?!?! (The fullscreen version of the ANDHC videos is sooo delicious ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ouoVC8YCZQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Tgw0V2XkQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42j573poiiAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhgWXqmBmZEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPofyjLmGQU Edited May 3, 2019 at 10:39 AM by Javito 2 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
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