"A New Day Has Come" album - Official Topic

[jpatdeleon09]

She should have sang

 

I’m Alive - like I’m back guys

A New Day Has Come - waiting for so long for the new english album

Ashes - for her newest single since last year

My Heart Will Go On

[Javito]

Yeah sure, the message... lol

 

I’m Alive has clearly proved to be loved both by Celine and most importantly, the audience and the public, wherever they are.

 

I’m not saying it’s superior to anything but when the song is featured on countless intros of TV reports and interviews around the globe, played before other songs and now chosen to be performed on a press meeting to present the worldwide unveiling of a new tour, that’s for a reason. The song has a found a place among Celine’s long list of singles that few have achieved to get on a permanent basis, and I’m Alive has become a Celine single that is instantly recognized by the public and makes them stand up, cheer and dance to her. Not many songs can say that unfortunately.

 

Too many coincidences don’t make them pick this song on a random basis, which has been on every Celine show and tour since 2003.

Edited April 8, 2019 at 08:23 AM by Javito

[Dion2000]

Yeah sure, the message... lol

 

I’m Alive has clearly proved to be loved both by Celine and most importantly, the audience and the public, wherever they are.

 

I’m not saying it’s superior to anything but when the song is featured on countless intros of TV reports and interviews around the globe, played before other songs and now chosen to be performed on a press meeting to present the worldwide unveiling of a new tour, that’s for a reason. The song has a found a place among Celine’s long list of singles that few have achieved to get on a permanent basis, and I’m Alive has become a Celine single that is instantly recognized by the public and makes them stand up, cheer and dance to her. Not many songs can say that unfortunately.

 

Too many coincidences don’t make them pick this song on a random basis, which has been on every Celine show and tour since 2003.

 

 

Not from 2011-2015 and then from 2015-2017 it was done acoustic

[Javito]

So? It was included in the show eventually.

 

Acoustic version only means the song became even more powerful and meaningful to Celine!

Edited April 8, 2019 at 10:19 AM by Javito

[Dion2000]

So? It was included in the show eventually.

 

Acoustic version only means the song became even more powerful and meaningful to Celine!

 

But you said every show and tour but she performed it once from 2010-2014 sooooooo

 

And I mean shes doing a string version of Unison... I guess its also powerful and meaningful to Celine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just messing with ya lol

[Javito]

But you said every show and tour but she performed it once from 2010-2014 sooooooo

 

And I mean shes doing a string version of Unison... I guess its also powerful and meaningful to Celine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just messing with ya lol

 

Isn't the 2011-2014 still the same "Celine" show residency in Vegas than the 2015-2019 show??

 

Sometimes you're such a pain of member to discuss with, always trying to complicate matters when the obvious was already stated.

Edited April 8, 2019 at 02:21 PM by Javito

[Dion2000]

 

 

Isn't the 2011-2014 still the same "Celine" show residency in Vegas than the 2015-2019 show??

 

Sometimes you're such a pain of member to discuss with, always trying to complicate matters when the obvious was already stated.

 

Dude lighten up i was joking

 

And no i wouldnt really call it the same show given how far it is from the 2011-2014 show, considering its now the 2018 tour in Vegas

[Javito]

Aaaand ANDHC videoclip played on the German TV interview for the world tour, first song that is played and first and only videoclip reference that is chosen for the introduction during this this interview.

 

Edit: And later at 5:45, video segment of I'm Alive AGAIN performed during Vegas show. That's TWO songs from the ANDHC album played on this German TV interview. 2 out of 2 in the same 7 min interview!! No MHWGO here, no BYLM, no TPOL, no ABM. The only and two songs played here are the hit singles from one unique album from 2002. Need to say more???

 

 

Suffice to say!!

 

"Hush now"... ^_^

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=daRWJbg4R-I

Edited April 8, 2019 at 04:14 PM by Javito

[Ajax]

What's your point ? That I'm Alive is her last and almost only mid tempo "hit" ?

 

That's a fact Javito, we all know that.

 

Is that your new obsession that we should now add to the Vegas one ? And that you will repeat in a pathological way in every topic, do we need to prepare for that ?

[Javito]

What's your point ? That I'm Alive is her last and almost only mid tempo "hit" ?

 

That's a fact Javito, we all know that.

 

Is that your new obsession that we should now add to the Vegas one ? And that you will repeat in a pathological way in every topic, do we need to prepare for that ?

 

My point is that some people in the past tried to discredit her comeback album in 2002 and questioned the international success and recognition these two singles achieved everywhere from the US to Asia and going through all Europe, and that both IA and ANDHC were her two worldwide hits. That's a fact.

 

And recently you also mocked these songs too in different bashing terms as if they were minor songs in her career. Well, I'm here to just prove you -and the rest- wrong. My point is that precisely when you were bashing I'm Alive, here we have a worldwide press meeting and two major interviews in US and German shows that the FIRST (and only song in some cases) they use is the song I'm Alive and ANDHC in the videos for TV, before any other songs of her. I'm always criticised for criticising the Vegas chapter in her career, I'm also ready for being criticised to passionately defend, praise and post facts about this album. I can never win either way, so be it

 

Yes, my job is being done here. Prepare for that

Edited April 8, 2019 at 05:04 PM by Javito

[Alex_Incognito]

I will never forget the excitement of the arrival of this album. I remember January of 2002 on a Barbara Walters interview we got to hear a snippet of ANDHC and all the promotion was glorious. Such good times. She was EVERYWHERE and there were so many releases to collect. Man.

[Critiaslux]

My point is that some people in the past tried to discredit her comeback album in 2002 and questioned the international success and recognition these two singles achieved everywhere from the US to Asia and going through all Europe, and that both IA and ANDHC were her two worldwide hits. That's a fact.

 

And recently you also mocked these songs too in different bashing terms as if they were minor songs in her career. Well, I'm here to just prove you -and the rest- wrong. My point is that precisely when you were bashing I'm Alive, here we have a worldwide press meeting and two major interviews in US and German shows that the FIRST (and only song in some cases) they use is the song I'm Alive and ANDHC in the videos for TV, before any other songs of her. I'm always criticised for criticising the Vegas chapter in her career, I'm also ready for being criticised to passionately defend, praise and post facts about this album. I can never win either way, so be it

 

Yes, my job is being done here. Prepare for that

 

Actually what is the most interesting in the whole story is that those two singles have enduring success (youtube views are quite impressive), even though clearly chart-wise they were not as successful worldwide contrary to her 90s singles, especially in the USA, UK and Japan (i.e. the 3 biggest markets).

 

I'm Alive popularity in the USA is quite baffling: it failed to chart on hot 100, which was quite a disappointment for the second single of a highly anticipated album. Still, it is one of her most recognizable single, even there.

 

Meaning, sometimes chart achievement (or not) may translate differently in longevity success.

[comingback]

ANDHC and IA were big hits in Germany/Europe 2002. The songs and videos were played on radio and TV, they were everywhere. Edited April 8, 2019 at 07:44 PM by comingback

[Critiaslux]

ANDHC and IA were big hits in Germany/Europe 2002. The songs and videos were played on radio and TV, they were everywhere.

 

Indeed in Germany, Belgium, France and Scandinavia I'm Alive did very well.

 

But (part of) Europe is (no longer 😆) the world.

[GoldenLeaf]

Is this remix official ?

 

Sorry For Love (HQ2 Club Mix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMB5oT5dmA8

[ryba]

I will never forget the excitement of the arrival of this album. I remember January of 2002 on a Barbara Walters interview we got to hear a snippet of ANDHC and all the promotion was glorious. Such good times. She was EVERYWHERE and there were so many releases to collect. Man.

how did you know about the Barbara Walters bit? Did you have internet and a forum back then too? Wasn’t it difficult to get Celine news? Were there any fan web sides already? Edited April 20, 2019 at 04:20 PM by ryba

[scielle]

how did you know about the Barbara Walters bit? Did you have internet and a forum back then too? Wasn't it difficult to get Celine news? Were there any fan web sides already?

 

In 2002? Are you kidding?

I was on Celine sites and forums circa 1996!

[Unisono]

I will never forget the excitement of the arrival of this album. I remember January of 2002 on a Barbara Walters interview we got to hear a snippet of ANDHC and all the promotion was glorious. Such good times. She was EVERYWHERE and there were so many releases to collect. Man.

 

I remember that moment too! It was the most powerful part of the album edit version of the song. I had goose bumps!

[Flymetothemoon]

 

 

In 2002? Are you kidding?

I was on Celine sites and forums circa 1996!

 

Plenty of regions outside US did not own a home computer until 2003-2005, which come with a slow dial - up...

Edited April 20, 2019 at 06:08 PM by Flymetothemoon

[scielle]

Plenty of regions outside US did not own a home computer until 2003-2005, which come with a slow dial - up...

 

Oh sure. But that doesn't mean 2002 was the dark ages when it comes to the availability of Celine content online. Far from it. It was very much in full swing by then.

[Flymetothemoon]

 

 

Oh sure. But that doesn't mean 2002 was the dark ages when it comes to the availability of Celine content online. Far from it. It was very much in full swing by then.

 

 

Indeed.

 

I feel that Ryba was trying to simply obtain more info about that time frame and was surprised to find out about such useful online content.

 

Around the same year, I relied on the few VH1/MTV news, which were not so speedy/live; also, buying all international press available and calling editors from magazines, to check if I missed some article =)).

 

I too was surprised a few years back to find out about previous forums/fan pages and clubs, though I tried to follow her since 94'...limited info & access...

[scielle]

Indeed.

 

I feel that Ryba was trying to simply obtain more info about that time frame and was surprised to find out about such useful online content.

 

Around the same year, I relied on the few VH1/MTV news, which were not so speedy/live; also, buying all international press available and calling editors from magazines, to check if I missed some article =)).

 

I too was surprised a few years back to find out about previous forums/fan pages and clubs, though I tried to follow her since 94'...limited info & access...

 

Wow, that's some real effort!

 

I recall the biggest site at the time was Passion Celine Dion, run by a guy named Sylvain Beauregard. IIRC he got frustrated by something (Team Celine, maybe?) at some point and gave up. But he later published this - https://www.amazon.com/Passion-Celine-Dion-ultimate-guide/dp/1553692128

[Flymetothemoon]

 

I recall the biggest site at the time was Passion Celine Dion, run by a guy named Sylvain Beauregard. IIRC he got frustrated by something (Team Celine, maybe?) at some point and gave up. But he later published this - https://www.amazon.com/Passion-Celine-Dion-ultimate-guide/dp/1553692128

 

Thank you so for the info.

 

Saw this book on ebay a while back, but didn't pay much attention to it. It seems useful and with a personal, fan approach(?).

 

I sudenly remember meeting fans with more info & concert experience a few summers back and feeling I missed out a lot...i loved her music, before knowing I would like the person and her goofy personality.

 

Anyways, greatful for the shows and moments I can be part of in this new Celine era.

[GoldenLeaf]

I don't see the connection between ANDHC and LMBTL.

 

The first one is a "fake album" without any coherence, just trying to please everybody, without any position.

 

Back in 2001. Sony meeting room ( a bunch of people, so of "brains"... back then, Céline's team was way bigger than today)

 

- So what are we going to do for Céline's come back ? Any idea?

- ... (nobody)

-(somebody staring at the big frame gathering all Céline's previous album): all these albums were successfull. Why?

- Let's mix them all and it will smash everywhere.

 

End of the meeting.

To do list :

 

- Some crappy pop songs ( "Hey, "That's the way it " was a success guys!") => I'm alive, Superlove, When the wrong one

- Some old/vintage/jazzy/blues/whatever covers ( Hello "When I fall in love" and "Blue Christmas", "All the way", "The first time") => At last/ Nature Boy

- At least one vocally powerfull David Foster song ( see All by myself) => I surrender

- A cheesy love song ( Talking about Céline. Obvious)=> Have you ever been love ? Just askin'...because you loved me!

- Let's give the spanish market another try! => Aun existe amor ( sola otra vez, Amar haciendo el amor)

- What about the french market? ...calling Sony representatives in France "Hi, what are the most successfull songs right now over there?" " Well, we have this guy who just selled more than 1 million copies of his album. Gerald De Palmas. And then this musical very successfull..." " Yes, we know, Céline did a cover out of it 2 years ago" "oh no, that's another one. Musicals are very hype these days"... => Ten days/The greatest reward .vs allhertranslatedfrenchsongs/Live

- Shaking a hat full of pieces of paper with some random songs=> 1st pick: Where is the love. (Corey Hart will do it again: another filler yet beautiful song about universal love : Prayer), 2sd pick : If walls could talk. ( "We are so lucky, we have this song in our drawer that Céline didn't want to sing 2 years ago : Goodbye's the... ).

 

The end.

 

"Sorry guys, something is missing here. Some novelty in Céline's repertoire".

 

A guy who wants to keep his identity secret (as too ashame of what he did) came up with this idea : let's remix one of her cheesy love song and pretend Céline became the queen of the dancefloors because, after all, a new day has come.

 

Sorry for love (horrendous remix 2002) was born. Without any sorry.

 

So? Everybody is happy?

David Foster? Yes

Eddy Marnay? Yes

Luc Plamondon? Yes ( still making it up to him after dismissed back in 1995)

The producers? Yes ( all the bloody same team? Wake, Afanassief, etc..; blablabla).

 

Job done.

 

PS : "Can you please make sure "Sorry for love" comes right after the 60s tune "At last" "? Just to make people cringe.

PS2 : The cover needs to reflect the content of the album.

We ended up with a cover which remains up to now the only cover (awful to me but who am I?) without any specific colour/tone. Just like the content of the album: a big big whatevaaaaaaaa

 

I'm quite sure Céline's success decline is due to this album ( it has begun with it anyhow). Too ambitious but without any risk/too long but with weak songs lacking of artistry.

 

Even Chuck Taylor from BB ( a big fan) said that "One heart" should have been the album of her come back. Light, colourful...it's far better as a whole. It has its own flaws but it works better for me (I would have taken out HYEBIL/SFL/CSW and made it a small EP just to support the Vegas Show)

The best would have been to mix both albums actually , excluding all the unneeded songs.

If the album One Heart would have been released in March 2002 instead of March 2003 I think it would have been huge. Imagine if I Drove All Night would have been released as the lead single in February 2002, then Naked in May 2002, I think it would have totally surprised everybody, way more than when Celine released A New Day Has Come as the lead single and I'm Alive as the second single.

[comingback]

If the album One Heart would have been released in March 2002 instead of March 2003 I think it would have been huge. Imagine if I Drove All Night would have been released as the lead single in February 2002, then Naked in May 2002, I think it would have totally surprised everybody, way more than when Celine released A New Day Has Come as the lead single and I'm Alive as the second single.

 

YEP, IDAN, Naked and Reveal would have been great singles 2002, when Kylie's album Fever was hot.

Edited April 21, 2019 at 08:17 PM by comingback

[Dion2000]

Cant wait for you know who to make a thesis as to why you all are horrible people for not adoring ANDHC

[jpatdeleon09]

Cant wait for you know who to make a thesis as to why you all are horrible people for not adoring ANDHC

 

If Javito will make a thesis about this album.. he’ll definitely pass this. lol

[Javito]

Goldenleaf’s quote from isurrender is just a piece of bullshit. Full of inaccuracies. Nice try for an humorous moment though.

 

Ten days came straight due to Celine’s insistence, after falling in love with the song at the last stage of the album and when they already has completed the selection of songs.

 

And no need to do any thesis bashing or defending one album or another: we all know One Heart comes at least at an 80% from the ANDHC sessions. So praising OH as a better album is like saying you love the ANDHC sessions because they both come from the same time

Edited April 22, 2019 at 07:46 AM by Javito

[Javito]

 

If the album One Heart would have been released in March 2002 instead of March 2003 I think it would have been huge. Imagine if I Drove All Night would have been released as the lead single in February 2002, then Naked in May 2002, I think it would have totally surprised everybody, way more than when Celine released A New Day Has Come as the lead single and I'm Alive as the second single.

 

I don’t get your post, and it’s almost futile what you say: saying it would have been better to have OH album in 2002 instead of ANDHC only to have singles like Naked released, that doesn’t make any sense. For what? For ignoring these songs and keep them hidden same as they did with great songs in ANDHC? They wouldn’t have done differently if OH had been released only one year before lol, we all know Sony do what they want with the singles and screw everything up!

 

It’s like saying I would have loved ANDHC to be released in 2003 to have Sorry For Love as a single because (insert any kind of unfathomable occurrence here). For what?? It never happened and it wasn’t going to happen either way.

 

And saying IDAN in 2002 would have been a better single than ANDHC is just too much in one same laughable post lol Yeah sure, probably a bigger comeback single than ANDHC and what that song achieved everywhere.

 

And I still dream elephants can fly one day... lol

Edited April 22, 2019 at 07:57 AM by Javito

[Dion2000]

I dont think its outlandish at all to assume IDAN wouldve been bigger than ANDHC... it was like, BIG when it came out and went almost straight to #1 on the BB Dance Charts, IMO it wouldve went top 10 if that was her comeback single and thats what she was performing constantly